Re: Challenges -- Who's havesting fixes.

[Jerome Peace]

Hi Juan, hi Stef

I’ve finally spent a little time following your dialog
in the challenges thread.

Is my understanding correct that Stef (and Marcus) are
now taking responsibility for harvesting the morphic
fixes?

>From what I know of everyones interests this seems to
me a good development.

Yours in service, --Jerome Peace

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[stéphane ducasse-2]

Marcus is off.
So I will see if I find time. Over the last two weeks I did not even  
had one evening for me.

Stef

On 21 mai 06, at 07:56, Peace Jerome wrote:

> Hi Juan, hi Stef
>
> I’ve finally spent a little time following your dialog
> in the challenges thread.
>
> Is my understanding correct that Stef (and Marcus) are
> now taking responsibility for harvesting the morphic
> fixes?
>
> From what I know of everyones interests this seems to
> me a good development.
>
> Yours in service, --Jerome Peace
>
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[stéphane ducasse-2]

Hi Jerome

If you want to take over morphic and produce mcz files for me this is  
also ok.
This will just be more responsibilities for you.

Stef

On 21 mai 06, at 07:56, Peace Jerome wrote:

> Hi Juan, hi Stef
>
> I’ve finally spent a little time following your dialog
> in the challenges thread.
>
> Is my understanding correct that Stef (and Marcus) are
> now taking responsibility for harvesting the morphic
> fixes?
>
> From what I know of everyones interests this seems to
> me a good development.
>
> Yours in service, --Jerome Peace
>
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[Jerome Peace]

Hi Stef,

Thank you for the compliment of offering me the
responsibility. I'm afraid it is not one I can accept.

My patron prefers that I spend what time I have for
squeak in observing, reporting, and fixing bugs.

For me this is best done with change sets. My
perception is that MC and I are not yet ready for each
other.

I will continue to contribute what I can to squeak and
morphic.

Thank you again for your efforts to recruit others to
help. And your vision and efforts for a more capable
squeak.

Yours in service, --Jerome Peace

--- stéphane ducasse <ducasse@...> wrote:

> Hi Jerome
>
> If you want to take over morphic and produce mcz
> files for me this is  
> also ok.
> This will just be more responsibilities for you.
>
> Stef
>
> On 21 mai 06, at 07:56, Peace Jerome wrote:
>
> > Hi Juan, hi Stef
> >
> > I’ve finally spent a little time following your
> dialog
> > in the challenges thread.
> >
> > Is my understanding correct that Stef (and Marcus)
> are
> > now taking responsibility for harvesting the
> morphic
> > fixes?
> >
> > From what I know of everyones interests this seems
> to
> > me a good development.
> >
> > Yours in service, --Jerome Peace
> >

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[stéphane ducasse-2]

On 30 mai 06, at 07:46, Peace Jerome wrote:

> Hi Stef,
>
> Thank you for the compliment of offering me the
> responsibility. I'm afraid it is not one I can accept.
>
> My patron prefers that I spend what time I have for
> squeak in observing, reporting, and fixing bugs.

Too bad because when you fix a bug you would just publish from the  
latest
release a new mcz file and it would be done....
DONE. You know done. Now I have to load cs and spot the changes and  
republish.....

Anyway.
>
> For me this is best done with change sets. My
> perception is that MC and I are not yet ready for each
> other.

So you are wrong (it is not perfect) but this is working and
this also improve our process and my time.

> I will continue to contribute what I can to squeak and
> morphic.
>
> Thank you again for your efforts to recruit others to
> help. And your vision and efforts for a more capable
> squeak.
>
> Yours in service, --Jerome Peace
>
> --- stéphane ducasse <ducasse@...> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jerome
>>
>> If you want to take over morphic and produce mcz
>> files for me this is
>> also ok.
>> This will just be more responsibilities for you.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> On 21 mai 06, at 07:56, Peace Jerome wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Juan, hi Stef
>>>
>>> I’ve finally spent a little time following your
>> dialog
>>> in the challenges thread.
>>>
>>> Is my understanding correct that Stef (and Marcus)
>> are
>>> now taking responsibility for harvesting the
>> morphic
>>> fixes?
>>>
>>> From what I know of everyones interests this seems
>> to
>>> me a good development.
>>>
>>> Yours in service, --Jerome Peace
>>>
>
>
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[Jerome Peace]

Hi stef,

I am usually right about what my perceptions are, and
I usually have a good reason for perceiving things the
way I do. I will post more on the subject of fixes,
changesets and MC. It will take me a while to organize
my thoughts.

I know you are pushing to make your job of harvesting
easier. If it were easy for me to comply I would. It
is not.

Marcus seemed to have a way of dealing well with
change set fixes. What did he do?

Yours in service, -- Jerome Peace

--- stéphane ducasse <ducasse@...> wrote:

>
> On 30 mai 06, at 07:46, Peace Jerome wrote:
>
> > Hi Stef,
> >
> > Thank you for the compliment of offering me the
> > responsibility. I'm afraid it is not one I can
> accept.
> >
> > My patron prefers that I spend what time I have
> for
> > squeak in observing, reporting, and fixing bugs.
>
> Too bad because when you fix a bug you would just
> publish from the  
> latest
> release a new mcz file and it would be done....
> DONE. You know done. Now I have to load cs and spot
> the changes and  
> republish.....
>
> Anyway.
> >
> > For me this is best done with change sets. My
> > perception is that MC and I are not yet ready for
> each
> > other.
>
> So you are wrong (it is not perfect) but this is
> working and
> this also improve our process and my time.
>
> > I will continue to contribute what I can to squeak
> and
> > morphic.
> >
> > Thank you again for your efforts to recruit others
> to
> > help. And your vision and efforts for a more
> capable
> > squeak.
> >
> > Yours in service, --Jerome Peace
> >
> > --- stéphane ducasse <ducasse@...> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Jerome
> >>
> >> If you want to take over morphic and produce mcz
> >> files for me this is
> >> also ok.
> >> This will just be more responsibilities for you.
> >>
> >> Stef
> >>
> >> On 21 mai 06, at 07:56, Peace Jerome wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Juan, hi Stef
> >>>
> >>> I’ve finally spent a little time following your
> >> dialog
> >>> in the challenges thread.
> >>>
> >>> Is my understanding correct that Stef (and
> Marcus)
> >> are
> >>> now taking responsibility for harvesting the
> >> morphic
> >>> fixes?
> >>>
> >>> From what I know of everyones interests this
> seems
> >> to
> >>> me a good development.
> >>>
> >>> Yours in service, --Jerome Peace
> >>>

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[stéphane ducasse-2]

On 31 mai 06, at 01:30, Peace Jerome wrote:

> Hi stef,
>
> I am usually right about what my perceptions are, and
> I usually have a good reason for perceiving things the
> way I do. I will post more on the subject of fixes,
> changesets and MC. It will take me a while to organize
> my thoughts.
>
> I know you are pushing to make your job of harvesting
> easier. If it were easy for me to comply I would. It
> is not.
>
> Marcus seemed to have a way of dealing well with
> change set fixes. What did he do?

He did all the boring and tedious job.
to the point that now he stopped to do anything.

Stef

>
> Yours in service, -- Jerome Peace
>
> --- stéphane ducasse <ducasse@...> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 30 mai 06, at 07:46, Peace Jerome wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Stef,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the compliment of offering me the
>>> responsibility. I'm afraid it is not one I can
>> accept.
>>>
>>> My patron prefers that I spend what time I have
>> for
>>> squeak in observing, reporting, and fixing bugs.
>>
>> Too bad because when you fix a bug you would just
>> publish from the
>> latest
>> release a new mcz file and it would be done....
>> DONE. You know done. Now I have to load cs and spot
>> the changes and
>> republish.....
>>
>> Anyway.
>>>
>>> For me this is best done with change sets. My
>>> perception is that MC and I are not yet ready for
>> each
>>> other.
>>
>> So you are wrong (it is not perfect) but this is
>> working and
>> this also improve our process and my time.
>>
>>> I will continue to contribute what I can to squeak
>> and
>>> morphic.
>>>
>>> Thank you again for your efforts to recruit others
>> to
>>> help. And your vision and efforts for a more
>> capable
>>> squeak.
>>>
>>> Yours in service, --Jerome Peace
>>>
>>> --- stéphane ducasse <ducasse@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jerome
>>>>
>>>> If you want to take over morphic and produce mcz
>>>> files for me this is
>>>> also ok.
>>>> This will just be more responsibilities for you.
>>>>
>>>> Stef
>>>>
>>>> On 21 mai 06, at 07:56, Peace Jerome wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Juan, hi Stef
>>>>>
>>>>> I’ve finally spent a little time following your
>>>> dialog
>>>>> in the challenges thread.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is my understanding correct that Stef (and
>> Marcus)
>>>> are
>>>>> now taking responsibility for harvesting the
>>>> morphic
>>>>> fixes?
>>>>>
>>>>> From what I know of everyones interests this
>> seems
>>>> to
>>>>> me a good development.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours in service, --Jerome Peace
>>>>>
>
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[Jerome Peace]

Hi Stef,

--- stéphane ducasse <ducasse@...> wrote:

> > Marcus seemed to have a way of dealing well with
> > change set fixes. What did he do?
>
> He did all the boring and tedious job.
> to the point that now he stopped to do anything.
>
> Stef
>


I meant the question as
"How did Marcus accomplish the harvesting? In other
words
 
- What steps did he take? And
- How did he solve the problems that arose?"

Yours in service, --Jerome Peace




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[stéphane ducasse-2]

>
> I meant the question as
> "How did Marcus accomplish the harvesting? In other
> words
>
> - What steps did he take? And
> - How did he solve the problems that arose?"

With pain...
save the cs on the disc
open the file list loader
load the cs check if this is ok and that there is no problem
load it
identify the packages that were made dirty
save the package with a comment



while with MCZ
        - we check the package by clicking on it
        - move it to 3.9 and this is done.


and common to both approaches
        create a script
        try to reload everything

>
> Yours in service, --Jerome Peace
>
>
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