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Re: [s2] Test build of 2.1.1 available
by Al Sutton
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Giovanni,
Like you I am a pure 2.x developer these days, and I would have absolutely
no problem with the S1 plugin being spun off into a separate project, but as
things are I couldn't vote for it being anything more than a test build
because we are shipping something we know doesn't work with the latest
version of one of our own products.
As I see it this would be like Apple making and releasing a new Speaker
System today that wouldn't work with the iPod touch, or Microsoft releasing
a new version of Office which isn't compatible with Vista, whilst it's true
that a majority of people may not care, we know there will be those who do,
and therefore we are knowingly releasing a product which won't work when
people follow our own advise on setting up S1 projects.
If this were any other problem then it wouldn't be such a big problem for me
(e.g. I would still like the dojo plugin to be up to dojo 1.0 or spun off
before a GA release, but we don't tell people to use the latest version of
Dojo), but as the problems are purely of our own making then I believe we
have an obligation to sort them out before saying this is anything more than
a test release.
Al.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Giovanni Azua" <giaz@...>
To: "Struts Developers List" <dev@...>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [s2] Test build of 2.1.1 available
> Hi Al,
>
> For me as a pure 2.x user I find the fact that 2.1.1 would be hold back
> only as an alpha just because of supporting a backward-compatibility S1
> plugin is a huge pity to say the least :)
> As a Struts user I personally would expect S1 plugin to have its own
> release cycle away from the S2 release. This way you do not affect the
> presumably lot of users (?) that are developing purely at level 2.x
>
> Best regards,
> Giovanni
>
> Al Sutton wrote:
>> In my view it can only be an alpha build because the S1 plugin is
>> incompatible with latest GA of S1 (1.3.8).
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Don Brown" <mrdon@...>
>> To: "Struts Developers List" <dev@...>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 4:12 PM
>> Subject: [s2] Test build of 2.1.1 available
>>
>>
>>
>>> The test build of Struts 2.1.1 is available.
>>>
>>> No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or 'GA') of
>>> Struts 2.1.1 has been made, and at this time it is simply a "test
>>> build". We welcome any comments you may have, and will take all
>>> feedback into account if a quality vote is called for this build.
>>>
>>> Release notes:
>>> * http://struts.apache.org/2.0.11.1/docs/version-notes-211.html
>>>
>>> Distribution:
>>> * http://people.apache.org/builds/struts/2.1.1/
>>>
>>> Maven 2 staging repository:
>>> * http://people.apache.org/builds/struts/2.1.1/m2-staging-repository/
>>>
>>> We appreciate the time and effort everyone has put toward contributing
>>> code and documentation, posting to the mailing lists, and logging
>>> issues.
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
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Like you I am a pure 2.x developer these days, and I would have absolutely
no problem with the S1 plugin being spun off into a separate project, but as
things are I couldn't vote for it being anything more than a test build
because we are shipping something we know doesn't work with the latest
version of one of our own products.
As I see it this would be like Apple making and releasing a new Speaker
System today that wouldn't work with the iPod touch, or Microsoft releasing
a new version of Office which isn't compatible with Vista, whilst it's true
that a majority of people may not care, we know there will be those who do,
and therefore we are knowingly releasing a product which won't work when
people follow our own advise on setting up S1 projects.
If this were any other problem then it wouldn't be such a big problem for me
(e.g. I would still like the dojo plugin to be up to dojo 1.0 or spun off
before a GA release, but we don't tell people to use the latest version of
Dojo), but as the problems are purely of our own making then I believe we
have an obligation to sort them out before saying this is anything more than
a test release.
Al.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Giovanni Azua" <giaz@...>
To: "Struts Developers List" <dev@...>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [s2] Test build of 2.1.1 available
> Hi Al,
>
> For me as a pure 2.x user I find the fact that 2.1.1 would be hold back
> only as an alpha just because of supporting a backward-compatibility S1
> plugin is a huge pity to say the least :)
> As a Struts user I personally would expect S1 plugin to have its own
> release cycle away from the S2 release. This way you do not affect the
> presumably lot of users (?) that are developing purely at level 2.x
>
> Best regards,
> Giovanni
>
> Al Sutton wrote:
>> In my view it can only be an alpha build because the S1 plugin is
>> incompatible with latest GA of S1 (1.3.8).
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Don Brown" <mrdon@...>
>> To: "Struts Developers List" <dev@...>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 4:12 PM
>> Subject: [s2] Test build of 2.1.1 available
>>
>>
>>
>>> The test build of Struts 2.1.1 is available.
>>>
>>> No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or 'GA') of
>>> Struts 2.1.1 has been made, and at this time it is simply a "test
>>> build". We welcome any comments you may have, and will take all
>>> feedback into account if a quality vote is called for this build.
>>>
>>> Release notes:
>>> * http://struts.apache.org/2.0.11.1/docs/version-notes-211.html
>>>
>>> Distribution:
>>> * http://people.apache.org/builds/struts/2.1.1/
>>>
>>> Maven 2 staging repository:
>>> * http://people.apache.org/builds/struts/2.1.1/m2-staging-repository/
>>>
>>> We appreciate the time and effort everyone has put toward contributing
>>> code and documentation, posting to the mailing lists, and logging
>>> issues.
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
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>>>
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