Re: [Product-Developers] Thoughts on championing OOTB themes

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>  I was not at the summit, and as a result haven't gotten a lot of information
>  on what's expected from me to improve the theming story for Plone, but I
>  have a few ideas here and would love feedback.
>
>  1) Identify the key players we need to round up for this. I'm thinking David
>  Convent, Alex Limi, Donna Snow, Denis Mishunov, the 14 year old wunderkind
>  I've been hearing about, and I'm sure there are more. Maybe the folks at
>  Quinta Group? I think we should also identify some designers, or determine
>  if we're going to liberate Wordpress or other similar free themes. I'm not a
>  huge fan of most of those themes, as most of them seem very ugly or too
>  dumbed down, but I could be talked into using them.
>
>  2) Create a dedicated theming section of the site and pull in select theming
>  docs there. Break it down into 2.5 and 3.0 so that it's clear, and keep a
>  link to other theming resources in the docs section. I'm thinking that we
>  narrow the field here and point them to the core docs. Possible visual
>  change to that section with thumbnails illustrating what the skins look
>  like. I'm thinking something over the top here, a la csszengarden.com. There
>  has long been a perception that the only thing you can do to easily theme a
>  Plone site is change the color of the tabs, and I want to break that
>  perception. At the very least, we need to make this page show thumbnails of
>  available themes: http://plone.org/products/by-category/themes
>
>  3) Possible sprint? I'd rather not do a virtual sprint, as I think the
>  in-person sprints are more successful, but we have to also be aware of where
>  our skinners live -- on opposite sides of the ocean. Is there any interest
>  here on this? I'm flexible to leave the country, but I know that many people
>  are not, due to having families.
>
>  4) Review the competition and see what they're up to in their theming
>  sections. There may be some interesting ideas we could borrow.
>
>  5) Put together some best practices to make sure that users don't have to do
>  any internal tweaking to make a skin work. I'm thinking specifically
>  instructions on how to use GS properly when building skins, plus a "right
>  way" forward -- buildout vs the unified installer. I'm still not sold on
>  buildout, and this warrants some real discussion. Designers and skinners
>  don't need all of the overhead that buildout brings with it, and maybe
>  buildout isn't appropriate?
>
>  6) Joel Burton mentioned a skinning contest, but I'm a little wary of this.
>  What do other people think? I just don't know how successful these things
>  are, or what we would offer as a prize.
>
>  Next steps are to get general feedback and additional thoughts. After that,
>  I'd like to put together a final list of action items, set a timeline and
>  establish owners. I believe it was Donna who pointed out that 3.0 came out
>  six months ago, and we don't have a solid 3.0 theming story or the
>  organizational structure to support what we do currently have in place. I'd
>  really like to see that change.
>
>  Thoughts?
>
>  - Veda
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