On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 16:16 -0400, ref wrote:
> > >
> > > no, CentOS is a pretty closed distribution
> >
> > Huh? How so?
>
> well, to stay within their repos' you are stuck with things like
> PHP-5.1.6, tomcat -5.5.20 etc..
Yes, that's because CentOS is a rebuild of Red Hat Enterprise Linux,
which doesn't (generally) do version-bumps during its life-cycle. Its
the whole "long-term support with an unchanging base, so your enterprise
apps of today will still run, complete with security updates, 7 years
later" thing.
> I must also say that I was a Debian sysadmin for the last 5 years before
> getting this job, so I am no expert at RPMs, and am having a hard time
> adjusting to YUM... On a server with no GUI, dselect was my best
> friend ... far more intuitive than what I have see of YUM... but that
> may be my inexperience with the RPM system showing ;)
'yum grouplist' might be helpful. Nothing cli I'm aware of that gives
the same functionality as dselect though -- its usually done on Fedora
with either yumex or pirut (or now PackageKit), all of which are
graphical tools.
> > > and I have googled for hours
> > > and cannot find it. The brest I can find is 5.5.20, and it is broken...
> > > I can find 5.5.26 for fedora7,8 and 9, but they have unlocate-able
> > > dependencies
> >
> > If its in the Fedora repos, the dependencies are also in the Fedora
> > repos. Broken deps aren't allowed to linger for very long in the Fedora
> > repos, and that'd be a rather noticeable one...
> >
> well it did install of a FC7 system, but will not install on the CentOS
> system. that is what is driving me a bit nuts. I understand that Fedora
> and RHEL (centOS) are different, but CentOS seems a loooong way
> behind ..
Yeah, you'd likely have to bring over a number of other F7 packages too.
For the record, RHEL3 (and thus CentOS 3) branched off of Fedora Core 1.
RHEL4 branched off of Fedora Core 3 or so. RHEL5 branched off of Fedora
Core 6. So yeah, CentOS 5 is indeed older than Fedora 7.
> > > ... I was hoping someone had an all enclosed version ...
> > > I have tried rpmforge, rpmfind, and rpm.pbone ...
> >
> > jpackage.org maybe?
> >
> oh.. I havent heard of that one, thanks Jarod, I'll check it out ...
No problem, hope that helps.
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