Question re. patterning of text boxes

[David Cox]

Can anyone point to a simple, already existing way to have (rectangular)
text boxes talk to each other so the chunks automatically (or partly
automatically) adjust 1.) to each other's positional relationships, and
(2.) to each other's (rectangular) sizes?

This is important because when subject information (the content inside
text boxes) is chunked in a certain way, the flow logic of all user
paths of chunks in very complex systems is mapped in an exceptionally
simple way for users --  that is, without any separate connectors;  
without logic symbols;  without arrows,; without language;  without
formula-forms.

Experience clearly tells us that people easily see and trace (instead of
reading about) all (even millions of) "how to do it" application
patterns (contiguous flow steps) for any system.

Help, please.  Even guesses would be appreciated.  Simplicity is a must
-- maybe like an architectural program that allows one to rearrange
(drag) rooms around in a house floor drawing while maintaining (1.) the
content of each room and (2.) an overall rectangular shape of the outer
walls of the house.

Dave Cox


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[Heather D. Pfeiffer]

Dave,

  Not sure what you want this for, but CharGer adjust to the text
  inside and if you move it after a link is present then it will move
  the link also.

  Is this what you are looking for?

-Heather

David Cox writes:
 > Can anyone point to a simple, already existing way to have (rectangular)
 > text boxes talk to each other so the chunks automatically (or partly
 > automatically) adjust 1.) to each other's positional relationships, and
 > (2.) to each other's (rectangular) sizes?
 >
 > This is important because when subject information (the content inside
 > text boxes) is chunked in a certain way, the flow logic of all user
 > paths of chunks in very complex systems is mapped in an exceptionally
 > simple way for users --  that is, without any separate connectors;  
 > without logic symbols;  without arrows,; without language;  without
 > formula-forms.
 >
 > Experience clearly tells us that people easily see and trace (instead of
 > reading about) all (even millions of) "how to do it" application
 > patterns (contiguous flow steps) for any system.
 >
 > Help, please.  Even guesses would be appreciated.  Simplicity is a must
 > -- maybe like an architectural program that allows one to rearrange
 > (drag) rooms around in a house floor drawing while maintaining (1.) the
 > content of each room and (2.) an overall rectangular shape of the outer
 > walls of the house.
 >
 > Dave Cox
 >
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[David Cox]

Heather,

I am searching for some way to simplify life for people who want to
revise diagrams based on the patterning scheme shown at  
http://www.flipp-explainers.org/casestudy1.htm .  The chunks in the
diagram are designed to be logically connected in user process steps
merely by how they are arranged.  Some application diagrams at P&G,
where I worked, had millions of user paths.  The case study example --
which is non-P&G -- has only 11 user paths.

I think (dream) that revision would work by a design person designing
changed chunks, specifying their connections with existing chunks, and
the computer would then redraw the entire diagram while ensuring/
proving the accuracy of all paths in the new diagram.  My programing
know-how is near zero, Heather.  I looked at the CharGer info on the CG
pages and couldn't understand it.  On the other hand, I can imagine
smart text boxes being dragged into and  "auto-grabbing" themselves into
their rightful logic places in diagrams.

The background on the case study project and the client's appraisal are
shown on the site page following the diagram.  It was an off-P&G-time
project on a familiar topic (personal tax calculation) which did not
conflict with security of systems at P&G.

Thank you so much for your considerate reply, Heather.

Dave

Heather D. Pfeiffer wrote:

> Dave,
>
>   Not sure what you want this for, but CharGer adjust to the text
>   inside and if you move it after a link is present then it will move
>   the link also.
>
>   Is this what you are looking for?
>
> -Heather
>
> David Cox writes:
>  > Can anyone point to a simple, already existing way to have (rectangular)
>  > text boxes talk to each other so the chunks automatically (or partly
>  > automatically) adjust 1.) to each other's positional relationships, and
>  > (2.) to each other's (rectangular) sizes?
>  >
>  > This is important because when subject information (the content inside
>  > text boxes) is chunked in a certain way, the flow logic of all user
>  > paths of chunks in very complex systems is mapped in an exceptionally
>  > simple way for users --  that is, without any separate connectors;  
>  > without logic symbols;  without arrows,; without language;  without
>  > formula-forms.
>  >
>  > Experience clearly tells us that people easily see and trace (instead of
>  > reading about) all (even millions of) "how to do it" application
>  > patterns (contiguous flow steps) for any system.
>  >
>  > Help, please.  Even guesses would be appreciated.  Simplicity is a must
>  > -- maybe like an architectural program that allows one to rearrange
>  > (drag) rooms around in a house floor drawing while maintaining (1.) the
>  > content of each room and (2.) an overall rectangular shape of the outer
>  > walls of the house.
>  >
>  > Dave Cox
>  >
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[Heather D. Pfeiffer]

Dave,

  I will keep thinking; maybe I can come up with another program.

-Heather

David Cox writes:
 > Heather,
 >
 > I am searching for some way to simplify life for people who want to
 > revise diagrams based on the patterning scheme shown at  
 > http://www.flipp-explainers.org/casestudy1.htm .  The chunks in the
 > diagram are designed to be logically connected in user process steps
 > merely by how they are arranged.  Some application diagrams at P&G,
 > where I worked, had millions of user paths.  The case study example --
 > which is non-P&G -- has only 11 user paths.
 >
 > I think (dream) that revision would work by a design person designing
 > changed chunks, specifying their connections with existing chunks, and
 > the computer would then redraw the entire diagram while ensuring/
 > proving the accuracy of all paths in the new diagram.  My programing
 > know-how is near zero, Heather.  I looked at the CharGer info on the CG
 > pages and couldn't understand it.  On the other hand, I can imagine
 > smart text boxes being dragged into and  "auto-grabbing" themselves into
 > their rightful logic places in diagrams.
 >
 > The background on the case study project and the client's appraisal are
 > shown on the site page following the diagram.  It was an off-P&G-time
 > project on a familiar topic (personal tax calculation) which did not
 > conflict with security of systems at P&G.
 >
 > Thank you so much for your considerate reply, Heather.
 >
 > Dave
 >
 > Heather D. Pfeiffer wrote:
 > > Dave,
 > >
 > >   Not sure what you want this for, but CharGer adjust to the text
 > >   inside and if you move it after a link is present then it will move
 > >   the link also.
 > >
 > >   Is this what you are looking for?
 > >
 > > -Heather
 > >
 > > David Cox writes:
 > >  > Can anyone point to a simple, already existing way to have (rectangular)
 > >  > text boxes talk to each other so the chunks automatically (or partly
 > >  > automatically) adjust 1.) to each other's positional relationships, and
 > >  > (2.) to each other's (rectangular) sizes?
 > >  >
 > >  > This is important because when subject information (the content inside
 > >  > text boxes) is chunked in a certain way, the flow logic of all user
 > >  > paths of chunks in very complex systems is mapped in an exceptionally
 > >  > simple way for users --  that is, without any separate connectors;  
 > >  > without logic symbols;  without arrows,; without language;  without
 > >  > formula-forms.
 > >  >
 > >  > Experience clearly tells us that people easily see and trace (instead of
 > >  > reading about) all (even millions of) "how to do it" application
 > >  > patterns (contiguous flow steps) for any system.
 > >  >
 > >  > Help, please.  Even guesses would be appreciated.  Simplicity is a must
 > >  > -- maybe like an architectural program that allows one to rearrange
 > >  > (drag) rooms around in a house floor drawing while maintaining (1.) the
 > >  > content of each room and (2.) an overall rectangular shape of the outer
 > >  > walls of the house.
 > >  >
 > >  > Dave Cox
 > >  >
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[Polovina, Simon]

Hi Heather, Dave and all,

Dave I had one of a master's dissertation students, Neil Adams (who you know), trying to address this issue using Adobe Flex. At the ICCS 2008 CS-TIW workshop I will be presenting his paper "The Role of FLIPP Explainers as a Tool to Assist the Visual Composition of Web Services for Enterprise Systems". Dave you already have a copy of it and it's available online via http://www.kde.cs.uni-kassel.de/ws/cs-tiw2008/ if anyone else is interested, albeit Neil's dissertation report covers the issues of that aspect in more detail - essentially it's a work-in-progress but still may offer some useful insights how to go about it. Cheers,

Simon

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heather D. Pfeiffer [mailto:hdp@...]
> Sent: 19 June 2008 03:25
> To: cg@...
> Subject: Re: [CG:] Question re. patterning of text boxes
>
>
> Dave,
>
>   I will keep thinking; maybe I can come up with another program.
>
> -Heather
>
> David Cox writes:
>  > Heather,
>  >
>  > I am searching for some way to simplify life for people who want to
>  > revise diagrams based on the patterning scheme shown at
>  > http://www.flipp-explainers.org/casestudy1.htm .  The chunks in the
>  > diagram are designed to be logically connected in user process steps
>  > merely by how they are arranged.  Some application diagrams at P&G,
>  > where I worked, had millions of user paths.  The case study example --
>  > which is non-P&G -- has only 11 user paths.
>  >
>  > I think (dream) that revision would work by a design person designing
>  > changed chunks, specifying their connections with existing chunks, and
>  > the computer would then redraw the entire diagram while ensuring/
>  > proving the accuracy of all paths in the new diagram.  My programing
>  > know-how is near zero, Heather.  I looked at the CharGer info on the CG
>  > pages and couldn't understand it.  On the other hand, I can imagine
>  > smart text boxes being dragged into and  "auto-grabbing" themselves into
>  > their rightful logic places in diagrams.
>  >
>  > The background on the case study project and the client's appraisal are
>  > shown on the site page following the diagram.  It was an off-P&G-time
>  > project on a familiar topic (personal tax calculation) which did not
>  > conflict with security of systems at P&G.
>  >
>  > Thank you so much for your considerate reply, Heather.
>  >
>  > Dave
>  >
>  > Heather D. Pfeiffer wrote:
>  > > Dave,
>  > >
>  > >   Not sure what you want this for, but CharGer adjust to the text
>  > >   inside and if you move it after a link is present then it will move
>  > >   the link also.
>  > >
>  > >   Is this what you are looking for?
>  > >
>  > > -Heather
>  > >
>  > > David Cox writes:
>  > >  > Can anyone point to a simple, already existing way to have (rectangular)
>  > >  > text boxes talk to each other so the chunks automatically (or partly
>  > >  > automatically) adjust 1.) to each other's positional relationships, and
>  > >  > (2.) to each other's (rectangular) sizes?
>  > >  >
>  > >  > This is important because when subject information (the content inside
>  > >  > text boxes) is chunked in a certain way, the flow logic of all user
>  > >  > paths of chunks in very complex systems is mapped in an exceptionally
>  > >  > simple way for users --  that is, without any separate connectors;
>  > >  > without logic symbols;  without arrows,; without language;  without
>  > >  > formula-forms.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Experience clearly tells us that people easily see and trace (instead of
>  > >  > reading about) all (even millions of) "how to do it" application
>  > >  > patterns (contiguous flow steps) for any system.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Help, please.  Even guesses would be appreciated.  Simplicity is a must
>  > >  > -- maybe like an architectural program that allows one to rearrange
>  > >  > (drag) rooms around in a house floor drawing while maintaining (1.) the
>  > >  > content of each room and (2.) an overall rectangular shape of the outer
>  > >  > walls of the house.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Dave Cox

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[David Cox]

Thanks, Heather.  Much obliged,

Dave

At 08:25 PM 6/18/2008 Wednesday -0600, you wrote:

>Dave,
>
>   I will keep thinking; maybe I can come up with another program.
>
>-Heather
>
>David Cox writes:
>  > Heather,
>  >
>  > I am searching for some way to simplify life for people who want to
>  > revise diagrams based on the patterning scheme shown at
>  > http://www.flipp-explainers.org/casestudy1.htm .  The chunks in the
>  > diagram are designed to be logically connected in user process steps
>  > merely by how they are arranged.  Some application diagrams at P&G,
>  > where I worked, had millions of user paths.  The case study example --
>  > which is non-P&G -- has only 11 user paths.
>  >
>  > I think (dream) that revision would work by a design person designing
>  > changed chunks, specifying their connections with existing chunks, and
>  > the computer would then redraw the entire diagram while ensuring/
>  > proving the accuracy of all paths in the new diagram.  My programing
>  > know-how is near zero, Heather.  I looked at the CharGer info on the CG
>  > pages and couldn't understand it.  On the other hand, I can imagine
>  > smart text boxes being dragged into and  "auto-grabbing" themselves into
>  > their rightful logic places in diagrams.
>  >
>  > The background on the case study project and the client's appraisal are
>  > shown on the site page following the diagram.  It was an off-P&G-time
>  > project on a familiar topic (personal tax calculation) which did not
>  > conflict with security of systems at P&G.
>  >
>  > Thank you so much for your considerate reply, Heather.
>  >
>  > Dave
>  >
>  > Heather D. Pfeiffer wrote:
>  > > Dave,
>  > >
>  > >   Not sure what you want this for, but CharGer adjust to the text
>  > >   inside and if you move it after a link is present then it will move
>  > >   the link also.
>  > >
>  > >   Is this what you are looking for?
>  > >
>  > > -Heather
>  > >
>  > > David Cox writes:
>  > >  > Can anyone point to a simple, already existing way to have
> (rectangular)
>  > >  > text boxes talk to each other so the chunks automatically (or partly
>  > >  > automatically) adjust 1.) to each other's positional
> relationships, and
>  > >  > (2.) to each other's (rectangular) sizes?
>  > >  >
>  > >  > This is important because when subject information (the
> content inside
>  > >  > text boxes) is chunked in a certain way, the flow logic of all user
>  > >  > paths of chunks in very complex systems is mapped in an
> exceptionally
>  > >  > simple way for users --  that is, without any separate connectors;
>  > >  > without logic symbols;  without arrows,; without language;  without
>  > >  > formula-forms.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Experience clearly tells us that people easily see and
> trace (instead of
>  > >  > reading about) all (even millions of) "how to do it" application
>  > >  > patterns (contiguous flow steps) for any system.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Help, please.  Even guesses would be
> appreciated.  Simplicity is a must
>  > >  > -- maybe like an architectural program that allows one to rearrange
>  > >  > (drag) rooms around in a house floor drawing while
> maintaining (1.) the
>  > >  > content of each room and (2.) an overall rectangular shape
> of the outer
>  > >  > walls of the house.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Dave Cox
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
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[Stijn Christiaens]

Dear Simon,

I am definitely interested in seeing more of Neil's work. Could you  
pass me the dissertation report?
Thanks.

Stijn

On 19 Jun 2008, at 09:28, Polovina, Simon wrote:

> Hi Heather, Dave and all,
>
> Dave I had one of a master's dissertation students, Neil Adams (who  
> you know), trying to address this issue using Adobe Flex. At the  
> ICCS 2008 CS-TIW workshop I will be presenting his paper "The Role  
> of FLIPP Explainers as a Tool to Assist the Visual Composition of  
> Web Services for Enterprise Systems". Dave you already have a copy  
> of it and it's available online via http://www.kde.cs.uni-kassel.de/ws/cs-tiw2008/ 
>  if anyone else is interested, albeit Neil's dissertation report  
> covers the issues of that aspect in more detail - essentially it's a  
> work-in-progress but still may offer some useful insights how to go  
> about it. Cheers,
>
> Simon
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Heather D. Pfeiffer [mailto:hdp@...]
>> Sent: 19 June 2008 03:25
>> To: cg@...
>> Subject: Re: [CG:] Question re. patterning of text boxes
>>
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>>  I will keep thinking; maybe I can come up with another program.
>>
>> -Heather
>>
>> David Cox writes:
>>> Heather,
>>>
>>> I am searching for some way to simplify life for people who want to
>>> revise diagrams based on the patterning scheme shown at
>>> http://www.flipp-explainers.org/casestudy1.htm .  The chunks in the
>>> diagram are designed to be logically connected in user process steps
>>> merely by how they are arranged.  Some application diagrams at P&G,
>>> where I worked, had millions of user paths.  The case study  
>>> example --
>>> which is non-P&G -- has only 11 user paths.
>>>
>>> I think (dream) that revision would work by a design person  
>>> designing
>>> changed chunks, specifying their connections with existing chunks,  
>>> and
>>> the computer would then redraw the entire diagram while ensuring/
>>> proving the accuracy of all paths in the new diagram.  My programing
>>> know-how is near zero, Heather.  I looked at the CharGer info on  
>>> the CG
>>> pages and couldn't understand it.  On the other hand, I can imagine
>>> smart text boxes being dragged into and  "auto-grabbing"  
>>> themselves into
>>> their rightful logic places in diagrams.
>>>
>>> The background on the case study project and the client's  
>>> appraisal are
>>> shown on the site page following the diagram.  It was an off-P&G-
>>> time
>>> project on a familiar topic (personal tax calculation) which did not
>>> conflict with security of systems at P&G.
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for your considerate reply, Heather.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Heather D. Pfeiffer wrote:
>>>> Dave,
>>>>
>>>>  Not sure what you want this for, but CharGer adjust to the text
>>>>  inside and if you move it after a link is present then it will  
>>>> move
>>>>  the link also.
>>>>
>>>>  Is this what you are looking for?
>>>>
>>>> -Heather
>>>>
>>>> David Cox writes:
>>>>> Can anyone point to a simple, already existing way to have  
>>>>> (rectangular)
>>>>> text boxes talk to each other so the chunks automatically (or  
>>>>> partly
>>>>> automatically) adjust 1.) to each other's positional  
>>>>> relationships, and
>>>>> (2.) to each other's (rectangular) sizes?
>>>>>
>>>>> This is important because when subject information (the content  
>>>>> inside
>>>>> text boxes) is chunked in a certain way, the flow logic of all  
>>>>> user
>>>>> paths of chunks in very complex systems is mapped in an  
>>>>> exceptionally
>>>>> simple way for users --  that is, without any separate connectors;
>>>>> without logic symbols;  without arrows,; without language;  
>>>>> without
>>>>> formula-forms.
>>>>>
>>>>> Experience clearly tells us that people easily see and trace  
>>>>> (instead of
>>>>> reading about) all (even millions of) "how to do it" application
>>>>> patterns (contiguous flow steps) for any system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Help, please.  Even guesses would be appreciated.  Simplicity is  
>>>>> a must
>>>>> -- maybe like an architectural program that allows one to  
>>>>> rearrange
>>>>> (drag) rooms around in a house floor drawing while maintaining  
>>>>> (1.) the
>>>>> content of each room and (2.) an overall rectangular shape of  
>>>>> the outer
>>>>> walls of the house.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave Cox
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[Deborah MacPherson]

Hi David,

Even though microsoft products, maybe Expression Blend and Design will work for you - tutorials are here http://blogs.msdn.com/expression/articles/543834.aspx

Deborah


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On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 5:02 PM, David Cox <djcox@...> wrote:

Can anyone point to a simple, already existing way to have (rectangular) text boxes talk to each other so the chunks automatically (or partly automatically) adjust 1.) to each other's positional relationships, and (2.) to each other's (rectangular) sizes?

This is important because when subject information (the content inside text boxes) is chunked in a certain way, the flow logic of all user paths of chunks in very complex systems is mapped in an exceptionally simple way for users --  that is, without any separate connectors;  without logic symbols;  without arrows,; without language;  without formula-forms.

Experience clearly tells us that people easily see and trace (instead of reading about) all (even millions of) "how to do it" application patterns (contiguous flow steps) for any system.

Help, please.  Even guesses would be appreciated.  Simplicity is a must -- maybe like an architectural program that allows one to rearrange (drag) rooms around in a house floor drawing while maintaining (1.) the content of each room and (2.) an overall rectangular shape of the outer walls of the house.

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[David Cox]

Simon,
Good reminder. I was waiting till after ICCS 2008 to mention it.
Dave

Polovina, Simon wrote:

Hi Heather, Dave and all,

Dave I had one of a master's dissertation students, Neil Adams (who you know), trying to address this issue using Adobe Flex. At the ICCS 2008 CS-TIW workshop I will be presenting his paper "The Role of FLIPP Explainers as a Tool to Assist the Visual Composition of Web Services for Enterprise Systems". Dave you already have a copy of it and it's available online via http://www.kde.cs.uni-kassel.de/ws/cs-tiw2008/ if anyone else is interested, albeit Neil's dissertation report covers the issues of that aspect in more detail - essentially it's a work-in-progress but still may offer some useful insights how to go about it. Cheers,

Simon

  

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Sent: 19 June 2008 03:25
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Subject: Re: [CG:] Question re. patterning of text boxes


Dave,

  I will keep thinking; maybe I can come up with another program.

-Heather

David Cox writes:
 > Heather,
 >
 > I am searching for some way to simplify life for people who want to
 > revise diagrams based on the patterning scheme shown at
 > http://www.flipp-explainers.org/casestudy1.htm .  The chunks in the
 > diagram are designed to be logically connected in user process steps
 > merely by how they are arranged.  Some application diagrams at P&G,
 > where I worked, had millions of user paths.  The case study example --
 > which is non-P&G -- has only 11 user paths.
 >
 > I think (dream) that revision would work by a design person designing
 > changed chunks, specifying their connections with existing chunks, and
 > the computer would then redraw the entire diagram while ensuring/
 > proving the accuracy of all paths in the new diagram.  My programing
 > know-how is near zero, Heather.  I looked at the CharGer info on the CG
 > pages and couldn't understand it.  On the other hand, I can imagine
 > smart text boxes being dragged into and  "auto-grabbing" themselves into
 > their rightful logic places in diagrams.
 >
 > The background on the case study project and the client's appraisal are
 > shown on the site page following the diagram.  It was an off-P&G-time
 > project on a familiar topic (personal tax calculation) which did not
 > conflict with security of systems at P&G.
 >
 > Thank you so much for your considerate reply, Heather.
 >
 > Dave
 >
 > Heather D. Pfeiffer wrote:
 > > Dave,
 > >
 > >   Not sure what you want this for, but CharGer adjust to the text
 > >   inside and if you move it after a link is present then it will move
 > >   the link also.
 > >
 > >   Is this what you are looking for?
 > >
 > > -Heather
 > >
 > > David Cox writes:
 > >  > Can anyone point to a simple, already existing way to have (rectangular)
 > >  > text boxes talk to each other so the chunks automatically (or partly
 > >  > automatically) adjust 1.) to each other's positional relationships, and
 > >  > (2.) to each other's (rectangular) sizes?
 > >  >
 > >  > This is important because when subject information (the content inside
 > >  > text boxes) is chunked in a certain way, the flow logic of all user
 > >  > paths of chunks in very complex systems is mapped in an exceptionally
 > >  > simple way for users --  that is, without any separate connectors;
 > >  > without logic symbols;  without arrows,; without language;  without
 > >  > formula-forms.
 > >  >
 > >  > Experience clearly tells us that people easily see and trace (instead of
 > >  > reading about) all (even millions of) "how to do it" application
 > >  > patterns (contiguous flow steps) for any system.
 > >  >
 > >  > Help, please.  Even guesses would be appreciated.  Simplicity is a must
 > >  > -- maybe like an architectural program that allows one to rearrange
 > >  > (drag) rooms around in a house floor drawing while maintaining (1.) the
 > >  > content of each room and (2.) an overall rectangular shape of the outer
 > >  > walls of the house.
 > >  >
 > >  > Dave Cox
    

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[David Cox]

Thanks, Deb.  I'll look with interest.
Dave

Deborah MacPherson wrote:

Hi David,

Even though microsoft products, maybe Expression Blend and Design will work for you - tutorials are here http://blogs.msdn.com/expression/articles/543834.aspx

Deborah


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On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 5:02 PM, David Cox <djcox@...> wrote:

Can anyone point to a simple, already existing way to have (rectangular) text boxes talk to each other so the chunks automatically (or partly automatically) adjust 1.) to each other's positional relationships, and (2.) to each other's (rectangular) sizes?

This is important because when subject information (the content inside text boxes) is chunked in a certain way, the flow logic of all user paths of chunks in very complex systems is mapped in an exceptionally simple way for users --  that is, without any separate connectors;  without logic symbols;  without arrows,; without language;  without formula-forms.

Experience clearly tells us that people easily see and trace (instead of reading about) all (even millions of) "how to do it" application patterns (contiguous flow steps) for any system.

Help, please.  Even guesses would be appreciated.  Simplicity is a must -- maybe like an architectural program that allows one to rearrange (drag) rooms around in a house floor drawing while maintaining (1.) the content of each room and (2.) an overall rectangular shape of the outer walls of the house.

Dave Cox


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