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Programmer VS DBA

by thomas aryongto-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Dear para master,

Saya mau tanya nih perbedaanjob desc antara DBA dengan programmer dimana ya???


salam,


Thomas



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Re: Programmer VS DBA

by Joshua Partogi :: Rate this Message:

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On 4/9/08, thomas aryongto <eben_nezher@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear para master,
>
> Saya mau tanya nih perbedaanjob desc antara DBA dengan programmer dimana ya???
>
>

Programmer:
* Membuat program
* Membuat unit-test program
* Bug fixing
* Membuat dokumentasi program

DBA:
* Membackup data
* Fine tuning database
* Set-up database plan
* Bikin query untuk report
* Mempartisi data

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by thomas aryongto-2 :: Rate this Message:

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hhmm...tapi kayak nya ga berlaku deh soalnya gw aja bingung status gw di kantor tapi kok malah di suruh belajar ASP :-( gimana dong??apakah indonesia itu mau doble job tapi satu gaji orang nya hue hue...capek deh.


salam,


Thomas

----- Original Message ----
From: Joshua Jackson <joshua.java@...>
To: jug-indonesia@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2008 15:48:38
Subject: Re: [JUG-Indonesia] Programmer VS DBA

                On 4/9/08, thomas aryongto <eben_nezher@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear para master,
>
> Saya mau tanya nih perbedaanjob desc antara DBA dengan programmer dimana ya???
>
>

Programmer:
* Membuat program
* Membuat unit-test program
* Bug fixing
* Membuat dokumentasi program

DBA:
* Membackup data
* Fine tuning database
* Set-up database plan
* Bikin query untuk report
* Mempartisi data

--
Let's show the world what we've got.

Blog: http://joshuajava. wordpress. com/

   
         
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Re: Programmer VS DBA

by dhiku :: Rate this Message:

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Hahaha..Belom pernah denger PM rangkap Business analyst, software
designer, software developer, ampe QC ya? Yg josh bilang itu
seharusnya spt itu. Malah harusnya ada technical dokumentasi yg
ngurusin itu. Programmer cuma tinggal coding dr sad dan liat issue
list :)

masih mending programmer + DBA mah :)

On 4/9/08, thomas aryongto <eben_nezher@...> wrote:

> hhmm...tapi kayak nya ga berlaku deh soalnya gw aja bingung status gw di
> kantor tapi kok malah di suruh belajar ASP :-( gimana dong??apakah indonesia
> itu mau doble job tapi satu gaji orang nya hue hue...capek deh.
>
>
> salam,
>
>
> Thomas
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Joshua Jackson <joshua.java@...>
> To: jug-indonesia@...
> Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2008 15:48:38
> Subject: Re: [JUG-Indonesia] Programmer VS DBA
>
>                 On 4/9/08, thomas aryongto <eben_nezher@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear para master,
> >
> > Saya mau tanya nih perbedaanjob desc antara DBA dengan programmer dimana
> ya???
> >
> >
>
> Programmer:
> * Membuat program
> * Membuat unit-test program
> * Bug fixing
> * Membuat dokumentasi program
>
> DBA:
> * Membackup data
> * Fine tuning database
> * Set-up database plan
> * Bikin query untuk report
> * Mempartisi data
>
> --
> Let's show the world what we've got.
>
> Blog: http://joshuajava. wordpress. com/
>
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Re: Programmer VS DBA

by wiradikusuma :: Rate this Message:

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it happens to me with dewantara :)

2008/4/9 Hadikusuma Wahab (Dhiku) <dh1ku.ilkom@...>:
> Hahaha..Belom pernah denger PM rangkap Business analyst, software
>  designer, software developer, ampe QC ya? Yg josh bilang itu
>  seharusnya spt itu. Malah harusnya ada technical dokumentasi yg
>  ngurusin itu. Programmer cuma tinggal coding dr sad dan liat issue
>  list :)

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Thomas Wiradikusuma
http://wiradikusuma.blogspot.com/2008/03/cinta-itu-anugrah-jika-kamu-cantik.html

Re: Programmer VS DBA

by Iwan Binanto :: Rate this Message:

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Itu banyak terjadi lho ..
Rangkap2 kerjaan, tapi bayaran tetep satu unit ..
:D

SALAM.

Pada tanggal 09/04/08, Thomas Wiradikusuma <wiradikusuma@...> menulis:

>
>
>
>
>
> it happens to me with dewantara :)
>
>  2008/4/9 Hadikusuma Wahab (Dhiku) <dh1ku.ilkom@...>:
>  > Hahaha..Belom pernah denger PM rangkap Business analyst, software
>  > designer, software developer, ampe QC ya? Yg josh bilang itu
>  > seharusnya spt itu. Malah harusnya ada technical dokumentasi yg
>  > ngurusin itu. Programmer cuma tinggal coding dr sad dan liat issue
>  > list :)
>
>  --
>  salam hangat,
>  Thomas Wiradikusuma
> http://wiradikusuma.blogspot.com/2008/03/cinta-itu-anugrah-jika-kamu-cantik.html
>  

Re: Programmer VS DBA

by Daniel Baktiar :: Rate this Message:

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lebih parah lagi kalau jadi programmer yg cuma tinggal coding dari sad dan
liat issue list...

tapi list issue-nya musti buat sendiri.

~kessiandeh

2008/4/9 Thomas Wiradikusuma <wiradikusuma@...>:

>   it happens to me with dewantara :)
>
> 2008/4/9 Hadikusuma Wahab (Dhiku) <dh1ku.ilkom@...<dh1ku.ilkom%40gmail.com>
> >:
>
> > Hahaha..Belom pernah denger PM rangkap Business analyst, software
> > designer, software developer, ampe QC ya? Yg josh bilang itu
> > seharusnya spt itu. Malah harusnya ada technical dokumentasi yg
> > ngurusin itu. Programmer cuma tinggal coding dr sad dan liat issue
> > list :)
>
> --
> salam hangat,
> Thomas Wiradikusuma
>
> http://wiradikusuma.blogspot.com/2008/03/cinta-itu-anugrah-jika-kamu-cantik.html
>  
>



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Re: Programmer VS DBA

by Joshua Partogi :: Rate this Message:

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On 4/9/08, thomas aryongto <eben_nezher@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> hhmm...tapi kayak nya ga berlaku deh soalnya gw aja bingung status gw di kantor tapi kok malah di suruh belajar ASP :-( gimana dong??apakah indonesia itu mau doble job tapi satu gaji orang nya hue hue...capek deh.
>

Ah baru gitu doang. Gw programmer tapi disuruh ngangkutin galon Akua
juga. Gimana dong tuh?

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Re: Programmer VS DBA

by Andry S Huzain :: Rate this Message:

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Specialization is for insects, Josh :p

2008/4/10 Joshua Jackson <joshua.java@...>:

> On 4/9/08, thomas aryongto <eben_nezher@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > hhmm...tapi kayak nya ga berlaku deh soalnya gw aja bingung status gw di
> kantor tapi kok malah di suruh belajar ASP :-( gimana dong??apakah indonesia
> itu mau doble job tapi satu gaji orang nya hue hue...capek deh.
> >
>
> Ah baru gitu doang. Gw programmer tapi disuruh ngangkutin galon Akua
> juga. Gimana dong tuh?
>
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by thomas aryongto-2 :: Rate this Message:

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waukakakka=)) kalau itu sih derita u om joshua :-D

----- Original Message ----
From: Joshua Jackson <joshua.java@...>
To: jug-indonesia@...
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:28:00
Subject: Re: [JUG-Indonesia] Programmer VS DBA

                On 4/9/08, thomas aryongto <eben_nezher@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> hhmm...tapi kayak nya ga berlaku deh soalnya gw aja bingung status gw di kantor tapi kok malah di suruh belajar ASP :-( gimana dong??apakah indonesia itu mau doble job tapi satu gaji orang nya hue hue...capek deh.
>

Ah baru gitu doang. Gw programmer tapi disuruh ngangkutin galon Akua
juga. Gimana dong tuh?

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Re: Programmer VS DBA

by Arif Rachim :: Rate this Message:

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Tenang josh, kalau masih angkat galon itungannya berarti olah raga.
Selama belum diminta bikinin kopi :P

2008/4/10 Joshua Jackson <joshua.java@...>:

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> On 4/9/08, thomas aryongto <eben_nezher@...> wrote:
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>  > hhmm...tapi kayak nya ga berlaku deh soalnya gw aja bingung status gw di
> kantor tapi kok malah di suruh belajar ASP :-( gimana dong??apakah indonesia
> itu mau doble job tapi satu gaji orang nya hue hue...capek deh.
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>  Ah baru gitu doang. Gw programmer tapi disuruh ngangkutin galon Akua
>  juga. Gimana dong tuh?
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Re: Programmer VS DBA

by wiradikusuma :: Rate this Message:

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wakaka.. gw dulu juga begitu.. tapi digilir ngangkatnya.. :D
sorry OOT


2008/4/10 Joshua Jackson <joshua.java@...>:
>  Ah baru gitu doang. Gw programmer tapi disuruh ngangkutin galon Akua
>  juga. Gimana dong tuh?


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Re: Programmer VS DBA

by wiradikusuma :: Rate this Message:

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2008/4/10 Arif Rachim <a.arif.r@...>:
> Tenang josh, kalau masih angkat galon itungannya berarti olah raga.
>  Selama belum diminta bikinin kopi :P

awas kalo ga rela ntar kopi bikinannya bisa diludahin :D
manajer: "kok rasa kopinya aneh josh?"
josh: "mungkin gulanya udah harus diganti pak" (menyeringai)

kalo kerja di end user biasanya dapet "bonus" disuruh sekalian
nginstallin program di kompie orang2. lift+radmin is your tool :)
blum lagi kalo programnya bukan elu yg bikin, tapi error, udha deh
dimaki2 si user :D


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Parent Message unknown Re: Programmer VS DBA

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Ha3, ngangkut galon :D
Saya juga sering tuh, soalnya kantor khan masih kecil dan employee masih sedikit.
Oh ya, sekalian dong dijabarin perbedaan job desc dari PM, Bussiness Analyst, dll...
Trus, antara Business Analyst dan Programmer tuh lebih tinggian mana posisinya?
sama ya?
 
Thanks in Advance,
Gloria Saripah Patara

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From: Joshua Jackson <joshua.java@...>
To: jug-indonesia@...
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:28:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JUG-Indonesia] Programmer VS DBA

                On 4/9/08, thomas aryongto <eben_nezher@ yahoo.com> wrote:
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> hhmm...tapi kayak nya ga berlaku deh soalnya gw aja bingung status gw di kantor tapi kok malah di suruh belajar ASP :-( gimana dong??apakah indonesia itu mau doble job tapi satu gaji orang nya hue hue...capek deh.
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Ah baru gitu doang. Gw programmer tapi disuruh ngangkutin galon Akua
juga. Gimana dong tuh?

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Gaji Programmer Java VS Cobol

by gafar gafar :: Rate this Message:

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ini baru seru topik yang tidak pernah dibahas
mau tahu standar gaji programmer cobol mainframe
junior programmer =10 juta untuk di indo.
orang susah dicari.pokok-nya programmer java 15 tahun
pengalaman baru standar junior di cobol.
-(sumber didapat dari pengalaman saya di dunia
banking).

thnaks
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Re: Programmer VS DBA

by Arif Rachim :: Rate this Message:

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sabar sabar ... costumer itu raja, emang kudu siap mental yang penting
PD jangan sampe hilang :D

2008/4/10 Thomas Wiradikusuma <wiradikusuma@...>:

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> 2008/4/10 Arif Rachim <a.arif.r@...>:
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>  > Tenang josh, kalau masih angkat galon itungannya berarti olah raga.
>  > Selama belum diminta bikinin kopi :P
>
>  awas kalo ga rela ntar kopi bikinannya bisa diludahin :D
>  manajer: "kok rasa kopinya aneh josh?"
>  josh: "mungkin gulanya udah harus diganti pak" (menyeringai)
>
>  kalo kerja di end user biasanya dapet "bonus" disuruh sekalian
>  nginstallin program di kompie orang2. lift+radmin is your tool :)
>  blum lagi kalo programnya bukan elu yg bikin, tapi error, udha deh
>  dimaki2 si user :D
>
>
>  --
>  salam hangat,
>  Thomas Wiradikusuma
>
> http://wiradikusuma.blogspot.com/2008/03/cinta-itu-anugrah-jika-kamu-cantik.html
>  

Re: Programmer VS DBA

by Abdullah Eli :: Rate this Message:

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Kerjaan dobel lalu minta gaji dobel agak kurang tepat juga. Karena meskipun
kerjaan dobel, tetap saja waktu kerjanya 8jam sehari dan level kerjaan sama2
engineer.

Beda kalo misalnya kerja Programmer merangkap Project Manager, bisa minta
gaji Programmer+Project Manager dibagi dua.

Kecuali dalam sehari 8jam jadi DBA dan 8jam jadi Programmer, ini baru
eligible gaji dobel...:P

2008/4/9 Iwan Binanto <iwan.binanto@...>:

>   Itu banyak terjadi lho ..
> Rangkap2 kerjaan, tapi bayaran tetep satu unit ..
> :D
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> SALAM.
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> Pada tanggal 09/04/08, Thomas Wiradikusuma <wiradikusuma@...<wiradikusuma%40gmail.com>>
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> > 2008/4/9 Hadikusuma Wahab (Dhiku) <dh1ku.ilkom@...<dh1ku.ilkom%40gmail.com>
> >:
> > > Hahaha..Belom pernah denger PM rangkap Business analyst, software
> > > designer, software developer, ampe QC ya? Yg josh bilang itu
> > > seharusnya spt itu. Malah harusnya ada technical dokumentasi yg
> > > ngurusin itu. Programmer cuma tinggal coding dr sad dan liat issue
> > > list :)
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> > salam hangat,
> > Thomas Wiradikusuma
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Re: Gaji Programmer Java VS Cobol

by Gardiary Jantan :: Rate this Message:

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Kyknya emg gitu.
Bidang yg dikit SDM nya lebih gede bayarannya.
Sesuai ama teori ekonomi soal suplay and demmand :D

Gardiary

--- gafar gafar <gafarg@...> wrote:

> ini baru seru topik yang tidak pernah dibahas
> mau tahu standar gaji programmer cobol mainframe
> junior programmer =10 juta untuk di indo.
> orang susah dicari.pokok-nya programmer java 15
> tahun
> pengalaman baru standar junior di cobol.
> -(sumber didapat dari pengalaman saya di dunia
> banking).
>
> thnaks
> Gafar
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Re: Gaji Programmer Java VS Cobol

by Xtreeme :: Rate this Message:

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Dan juga perlu diingat, yang nyediakan kerja bidang ini sedikit.

LagiBayanginKalauCOBOLDiajarkanDikampus,JadiBerapaGajinya?

2008/4/10 Gardiary Jantan <guardiary@...>:

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> Kyknya emg gitu.
>  Bidang yg dikit SDM nya lebih gede bayarannya.
>  Sesuai ama teori ekonomi soal suplay and demmand :D
>
>  Gardiary
>
>
>  --- gafar gafar <gafarg@...> wrote:
>
>  > ini baru seru topik yang tidak pernah dibahas
>  > mau tahu standar gaji programmer cobol mainframe
>  > junior programmer =10 juta untuk di indo.
>  > orang susah dicari.pokok-nya programmer java 15
>  > tahun
>  > pengalaman baru standar junior di cobol.
>  > -(sumber didapat dari pengalaman saya di dunia
>  > banking).
>  >
>  > thnaks
>  > Gafar
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Re: Programmer VS DBA

by Jaimy Azle :: Rate this Message:

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On Thursday, April 10, 2008, 8:28:00 AM, Joshua Jackson wrote:

> Ah baru gitu doang. Gw programmer tapi disuruh ngangkutin galon Akua
> juga. Gimana dong tuh?

Ha ha ha, mederita amat. Tapi itupun masih lumayan lah hitungannya.
Dulu, udahlah musti ikutan survey, nganalisis, bikin disain, ikutan
coding, ngevaluasi kerjaan tim dll. sampe jadi. pas deployment: masih
juga musti narik-narik kabel di kolong meja, merangkak diantara
kaki-kaki karyawan perusahaan client (kl pas lewat kaki yang mulus sih
lumayan juga), udah segitu??? belum... masih harus ngangkat-ngangkat
server, udah itu masih musti dibongkar lag buat ngeset terminatoor
harddisk scsi, nginstall linux, setting firewall+routing, baru
nginstall server application, eh.... ujung-ujungnya ikut juga ngasih
training ke user. Mabok itu udah pasti.

Sekarang sih udah jauh lebih baik dari itu, tapi yang jelas,
pengalaman-pengalaman yang didapat pasti sangat berharga.

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