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Printing partially blank forms
by Kirk Brooks
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Some of my users report, episodically, that reports print without data. It
seems to only happen with print jobs generated using Print Form - thought most of my reports in this database use Print Form. The printing method will run without incident as will the printing process. The problem is the page will be only have the static text and graphic elements (lines, boxes). No fields or variables will print. Pretty interesting, eh? Seem to happen on windows machines but that may simply be because of the machine population. It occurs in at two printing routines and is not specific to a particular printer. Once a given machine experiences the problem it is repeatable until a restart of 4D. It seems to me to have to do with machine memory and the OS printing routines. Today when this problem afflicted a user. I had them quit all other applications but not quit 4D Client. This had no effect in that the problem persisted. Anyone else seen this? Any ideas what causes it? Anything I can do about it? 4D 2004.7, compiled, server - win 2003 -- Kirk Brooks San Carlos, CA ======================= ********************************************************************** 4D Server v11 SQL has arrived! Buy it NOW at http://store.4ddepot.com 4th Dimension Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://www.4d.com/support/faqnug.html Archive: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.inug-4d.tech Unsub: mailto:4D_Tech-Unsubscribe@... Post: mailto:4d_tech@... Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/listinfo/4d_tech ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Printing partially blank forms
by MIYAKO
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Hi,
I believe this to be specific to 2004.7, one of the reasons why we now have 2004.7b3. some people chose to downgrade to 2004.6 but it might be worth giving 7b3 a shot. Regards, miyako On 2008/07/10, at 10:53, Kirk Brooks wrote: > Some of my users report, episodically, that reports print without > data. It > seems to only happen with print jobs generated using Print Form - > thought > most of my reports in this database use Print Form. The printing > method will > run without incident as will the printing process. The problem is > the page > will be only have the static text and graphic elements (lines, > boxes). No > fields or variables will print. > > Pretty interesting, eh? > > Seem to happen on windows machines but that may simply be because of > the > machine population. It occurs in at two printing routines and is not > specific to a particular printer. Once a given machine experiences the > problem it is repeatable until a restart of 4D. > > It seems to me to have to do with machine memory and the OS printing > routines. Today when this problem afflicted a user. I had them quit > all > other applications but not quit 4D Client. This had no effect in > that the > problem persisted. > > Anyone else seen this? > Any ideas what causes it? > Anything I can do about it? > > 4D 2004.7, compiled, server - win 2003 4D Server v11 SQL has arrived! Buy it NOW at http://store.4ddepot.com 4th Dimension Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://www.4d.com/support/faqnug.html Archive: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.inug-4d.tech Unsub: mailto:4D_Tech-Unsubscribe@... Post: mailto:4d_tech@... Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/listinfo/4d_tech ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Printing partially blank forms
by Koen Van Hooreweghe
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Kirk,
I have seen this in v 2004.7r2 on Windows, single user and server. It seems to be solved in 2004.7r3 (as Miyako wrote). HTH Koen Op 10-jul-08, om 03:53 heeft Kirk Brooks het volgende geschreven: > Some of my users report, episodically, that reports print without > data. > > Anyone else seen this? > Any ideas what causes it? > Anything I can do about it? > > 4D 2004.7, compiled, server - win 2003 -------------------- Compass bvba Koen Van Hooreweghe Kloosterstraat 65 9910 Knesselare Belgium bvbaCompass@... ********************************************************************** 4D Server v11 SQL has arrived! Buy it NOW at http://store.4ddepot.com 4th Dimension Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://www.4d.com/support/faqnug.html Archive: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.inug-4d.tech Unsub: mailto:4D_Tech-Unsubscribe@... Post: mailto:4d_tech@... Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/listinfo/4d_tech ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Printing partially blank forms
by Kirk Brooks
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Apparently not. We are running v 2004.7r3 (version 8.0.7 build 3) under
Windows 2003 on a Dell PE 1950. So either this is a different problem or it wasn't completely resolved in build 3. I'm curious - under what conditions is it reproducible? On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:28 AM, Koen Van Hooreweghe < bvbaCompass@...> wrote: > I have seen this in v 2004.7r2 on Windows, single user and server. > It seems to be solved in 2004.7r3 (as Miyako wrote). > -- Kirk Brooks San Carlos, CA ======================= ********************************************************************** 4D Server v11 SQL has arrived! Buy it NOW at http://store.4ddepot.com 4th Dimension Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://www.4d.com/support/faqnug.html Archive: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.inug-4d.tech Unsub: mailto:4D_Tech-Unsubscribe@... Post: mailto:4d_tech@... Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/listinfo/4d_tech ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Printing partially blank forms
by Koen Van Hooreweghe
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Kirk,
I had a reproducible situation in our app. Unfortunately it had too many steps involving a lot of code and I did not take the time to narrow it down. When the app was started, then some actions were taken, a form which was printed had only the rectangles and lines. Every field and variable was completely blank. Even a picture field. Nothing in preview, nothing on paper. Even though the current record was correctly loaded, the variables had their proper values. After that, the same form printed from another record, still showed blank values. It only could only be set to normal after relaunching the app (single user and client). The first time a saw the problem, it was at a customers site in client/server. There I could get a reproducible situation. When trying the same at the office (where I ran 4D 2004.7r3 on a Mac under parallels) it did not show. That is why I compared the 4D versions and noticed the customer was working in 2004.7r2 (this version actually showed 8.0.7 MC2, is this the real r2?). I didn't have the developer version at hand, but I still had a compiled app merged with 2004.7r2. I compiled with 2004.7r3 (8.0.7 build 3) and tested. The r2 version got into trouble after the necessary steps, the r3 didn't. That is why I concluded that it got solved in r3. No mention in the bug fix list. We upgraded the customer to 4D client and server 2004.7r3 and the problem was gone. Sorry to hear you still have it. I was glad to see it disappear and did not want to lose more time by trying to get to the bottom of it. Koen Op 10-jul-08, om 19:48 heeft Kirk Brooks het volgende geschreven: > Apparently not. We are running v 2004.7r3 (version 8.0.7 build 3) > under > Windows 2003 on a Dell PE 1950. > > So either this is a different problem or it wasn't completely > resolved in > build 3. > > I'm curious - under what conditions is it reproducible? > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:28 AM, Koen Van Hooreweghe < > bvbaCompass@...> wrote: > >> I have seen this in v 2004.7r2 on Windows, single user and server. >> It seems to be solved in 2004.7r3 (as Miyako wrote). -------------------- Compass bvba Koen Van Hooreweghe Kloosterstraat 65 9910 Knesselare Belgium bvbaCompass@... ********************************************************************** 4D Server v11 SQL has arrived! Buy it NOW at http://store.4ddepot.com 4th Dimension Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://www.4d.com/support/faqnug.html Archive: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.inug-4d.tech Unsub: mailto:4D_Tech-Unsubscribe@... Post: mailto:4d_tech@... Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/listinfo/4d_tech ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Printing partially blank forms
by Kirk Brooks
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Thanks for the input Koen.
I'm still battling this one as it is episodic and only comes up very occasionally. There are a couple of things I notice about it: - it seems to happen more often on a client that is at the end of a long cable run. The physical connection is lengthy and connects to a hub which then connects to the client. I installed an update today in which I increased the memory stack for all methods that print. Like you said - I'll be happy to see this just go away whether I figure it out or not. Kirk Brooks San Carlos, CA ********************************************************************** 4D Server v11 SQL has arrived! Buy it NOW at http://store.4ddepot.com 4th Dimension Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://www.4d.com/support/faqnug.html Archive: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.inug-4d.tech Unsub: mailto:4D_Tech-Unsubscribe@... Post: mailto:4d_tech@... Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/listinfo/4d_tech ********************************************************************** |
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