Printing fingering colors

[Paul Potash]

Hi,

I’ve run into a peculiar problem with printing the colors designated to the
fingering in the tablature and could definitely use some help.  So far I’m
able to assign the various fingering colors in the tablature.  When I go to
print preview the colors show up there too but the printout comes out in
black and white.  I should add that I’ve put the title and lyrics in red and
they do print out in color but still no color for the finger number
assignments.  I’m using MusEdit version 3.90.3 with Windows XP and an HP
Photosmart 1215 series.  I’ve no problem printing out various websites in
color, which makes me think that it might be something to do with MusEdit.
Any ideas would be welcomed.

Thanks,
Paul

[rayzcane]

Hello Paul,

If you would like to send me the file, i will try to print
it out here....

Ray Langley

> Hi,
>
> I’ve run into a peculiar problem with printing the colors designated to the
> fingering in the tablature and could definitely use some help.  So far I’m
> able to assign the various fingering colors in the tablature.  When I go to
> print preview the colors show up there too but the printout comes out in
> black and white.  I should add that I’ve put the title and lyrics in red and
> they do print out in color but still no color for the finger number
> assignments.  I’m using MusEdit version 3.90.3 with Windows XP and an HP
> Photosmart 1215 series.  I’ve no problem printing out various websites in
> color, which makes me think that it might be something to do with MusEdit.
> Any ideas would be welcomed.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul

 
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[Paul Potash]

Thanks Ray.  I appreciate how you've always been so helpful.  It may take a
day or two for me to send you the file but I will do that as soon as I can.
Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: musedit@... [mailto:musedit@...]On Behalf Of
rayzcane@...
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:45 PM
To: musedit@...
Subject: Re: [MusEdit] Printing fingering colors

Hello Paul,

If you would like to send me the file, i will try to print
it out here....

Ray Langley


> Hi,
>
> I've run into a peculiar problem with printing the colors designated to
the
> fingering in the tablature and could definitely use some help.  So far I'm
> able to assign the various fingering colors in the tablature.  When I go
to
> print preview the colors show up there too but the printout comes out in
> black and white.  I should add that I've put the title and lyrics in red
and
> they do print out in color but still no color for the finger number
> assignments.  I'm using MusEdit version 3.90.3 with Windows XP and an HP
> Photosmart 1215 series.  I've no problem printing out various websites in
> color, which makes me think that it might be something to do with MusEdit.
> Any ideas would be welcomed.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul




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[rayzcane]

Hello again Paul,

I received your file for Amazing Grace. It also prints out in black and
white using MusEdit! However, if you save it as a .PNG file, it does
print out in color.....

Use the "File - Export" menu to make a hi res PNG file.

Ray


> Thanks Ray.  I appreciate how you've always been so helpful.  It may take a
> day or two for me to send you the file but I will do that as soon as I can.
> Paul

[Paul Potash]

Hi Ray.  It worked! Thanks so much.  I am curious though as to why I could
print the title and lyrics out in color using the normal print option and
not the colored tab fingering?  When you print out the colored tab fingering
do you have to create a PNG file?   Thanks again Ray. Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: musedit@... [mailto:musedit@...]On Behalf Of
rayzcane@...
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:02 PM
To: musedit@...
Subject: RE: [MusEdit] Printing fingering colors

Hello again Paul,

I received your file for Amazing Grace. It also prints out in black and
white using MusEdit! However, if you save it as a .PNG file, it does
print out in color.....

Use the "File - Export" menu to make a hi res PNG file.

Ray

> Thanks Ray. I appreciate how you've always been so helpful. It may take a
> day or two for me to send you the file but I will do that as soon as I
can.
> Paul

[rayzcane]

Merry Christmas Eve,

Even when I set my printer to the highest color resolution, your file prints
in black and white. It does not show the stars and diamonds in your
original file when it prints directly from MusEdit, but everything prints
and looks right if I convert it to a PNG file.

Ray


> Hi Ray.  It worked! Thanks so much.  I am curious though as to why I could
> print the title and lyrics out in color using the normal print option and
> not the colored tab fingering?  When you print out the colored tab fingering
> do you have to create a PNG file?   Thanks again Ray. Paul

[Paul Potash]

Merry Christmas Ray.  Are you able to print one of your own files with
finger number symbols and their colors without having to convert them to PNG
files?  Thanks again Ray for the tip about PNG conversions.    Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: musedit@... [mailto:musedit@...]On Behalf Of
rayzcane@...
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 2:50 PM
To: musedit@...
Subject: RE: [MusEdit] Printing fingering colors

Merry Christmas Eve,

Even when I set my printer to the highest color resolution, your file prints
in black and white. It does not show the stars and diamonds in your
original file when it prints directly from MusEdit, but everything prints
and looks right if I convert it to a PNG file.

Ray

> Hi Ray. It worked! Thanks so much. I am curious though as to why I could
> print the title and lyrics out in color using the normal print option and
> not the colored tab fingering? When you print out the colored tab
fingering
> do you have to create a PNG file? Thanks again Ray. Paul

[rayzcane]

I don't have much need for that type of thing. I play a 12 string
Mobius Megatar instrument these days. I taught myself to
read music.

Ray


> Merry Christmas Ray.  Are you able to print one of your own files with
> finger number symbols and their colors without having to convert them to PNG
> files?  Thanks again Ray for the tip about PNG conversions.    Paul

[Jack-62]

This is yet another fascinating example of MusEdit's many-faceted
flexibility, with something for everybody. And when it doesn't work
right (apparently), well, it turns out there's a work-around. I had
no idea it would print TAB fingerings in color, and wouldn't have
looked for such a function.

Paul: there's a version 3.94 now (I think that's the new number.)
You wrote in your first post in this thread that you have 3.90,
I think.

Ray: Do you use TAB at all for your 12-string tapper? And do you
write your stuff on a grand staff? What tuning are you using? Do you
write out every note?

On a point sort of related to these questions, our website received
two hits the other day from somebody searching for answers to the
question of why guitar music is not notated in C clef like a viola.
If it weren't for 200 years of tradition, we perfectly well could
write guitar notation at actual pitch in C clef. But it seems pretty
obvious that it's not going to happen on any wide scale. We have the
G clef, we have QWERTY, etc, and that's the world we live in...
BUT MusEdit could certainly do it if somebody wants to, and probably
translate back and forth to TAB easily enough.

Ok, back to work now...
-- Jack


--- In musedit@..., rayzcane@... wrote:
>
> I don't have much need for that type of thing. I play a 12 string
> Mobius Megatar instrument these days. I taught myself to
> read music.
>
> Ray
>
>
> > Merry Christmas Ray.  Are you able to print one of your own files
with
> > finger number symbols and their colors without having to convert
them to PNG
> > files?  Thanks again Ray for the tip about PNG conversions.    
Paul
>

[Doug Rogers-3]

Hi Paul, et. al.,
 
    I hope this gets through... every time I try to write to
Yahoo groups it doesn't work.  I've just rejoined using my
Yahoo ID now... that should work.
 
    I just tried printing AdTab symbols in color, and they showed up
in color on the Print Preview and they printed out in color too.
You've said that:
 
- the color shows up in print preview
- your printer prints other text lines in color
 
So I'm wondering, when you print out, do you get outlines,
or do you get greyscale versions of the colors, or what do you see?
Are you just seeing numbers without AdTab sybmols around them?
 
One thing to try: Go to View | Ad-Tab and try some of the other
options, especially "Color Numbers Only" - do they show up in
Print Preview in color, and do they print out in color?
 
- Doug
 

[Paul Potash]

Hi Doug… How great to hear from you!  I was just getting ready to email you
about this.  For starters, going to “color numbers only” worked… thank you
so much.   As for my trying to print out the AdTab symbols with their
colors…  I can see the AdTab symbols with their colors in the print preview,
but only the AdTAb symbols print out without the colors and without
greyscale versions of the colors.  I hope this helps because I would like to
have the combination of AdTab symbols along with their colors as an option.
Thanks again for being the Lone Ranger… coming along at the last minute and
saving the day.    Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: musedit@... [mailto:musedit@...]On Behalf Of
doogalooba
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 5:00 PM
To: musedit@...
Subject: [MusEdit] Re: Printing fingering colors

Hi Paul, et. al.,

I hope this gets through... every time I try to write to
Yahoo groups it doesn't work. I've just rejoined using my
Yahoo ID now... that should work.

I just tried printing AdTab symbols in color, and they showed up
in color on the Print Preview and they printed out in color too.
You've said that:

- the color shows up in print preview
- your printer prints other text lines in color

So I'm wondering, when you print out, do you get outlines,
or do you get greyscale versions of the colors, or what do you see?
Are you just seeing numbers without AdTab sybmols around them?

One thing to try: Go to View | Ad-Tab and try some of the other
options, especially "Color Numbers Only" - do they show up in
Print Preview in color, and do they print out in color?

- Doug

[Paul Potash]

Hi Doug… it’s me again.  Is there a way to change the AdTab color assigned
to the 4th finger or for that matter any of the AdTab colors? The color for
the 4th AdTab color prints out being very close to the 1st finger which is
red.  Thanks again… Paul

[Doug Rogers-3]

--- In musedit@..., "Paul Potash" <ppotash@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Doug… it's me again.  Is there a way to change the AdTab color
assigned
> to the 4th finger or for that matter any of the AdTab colors? The
color for
> the 4th AdTab color prints out being very close to the 1st finger
which is
> red.  Thanks again… Paul
>


Hi Paul,
 
    The creator of the AdTab concept (Brian Allen)
originally had desginated yellow for the pinky finger,
but yellow is hard to see on printouts (when printing
only digits without the symobls).  The 1st, 2nd and 3rd
finger colors are Red, Green, and Blue.  Black will be
the color used when no fingering is specified.  I chose Pink
for the 4th finger because (with my printer at least) Pink
looks quite different from Red.  What color would you suggest
for the 4th finger?  I can change it, but the problem is finding
a color which will look sufficiently different from the other
three (and black) and yet which is also easy enough too
see when printed on any printer...
 
- Doug
 
( By the way, I think I've figured out why you weren't
able to print the color symbols...   But I had to modify the
exe file to do it - ie. no easy switch you can set.  I can
post this as a micro-update if you really want it right away )

[heritage1515]

Hi Doug;
 
In completing my book (which we briefly discussed by telecon a while back)  I
went through color discrimination / printer problems needing eight different  
colors. For your application, I suggest Orange or medium Brown.
 
I also still think you should contact QVC!
 
Robert E. Frazier
 
 



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[Paul Potash]

Hi Doug… Thanks so much for your quick and helpful responses.  You’ve always
done more than your best and I’ve always admired you for that.  As for the
choice of colors for the AdTab fingering… I’ll put my mind to that and let
you know if I can come up with anything.  As for the micro-update… it’s not
urgent but it would be good to have printing out the symbols with color as
an alternative, so I would say at your convenience Doug.  For the present,
using the colored numbers will do.  If I have to, I can go the PNG route for
the time being.  Thanks again…  Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: musedit@... [mailto:musedit@...]On Behalf Of
doogalooba
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:24 PM
To: musedit@...
Subject: [MusEdit] AdTab colors - please make a suggestion

--- In musedit@... <mailto:musedit%40yahoogroups.com> , "Paul
Potash" <ppotash@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Doug… it's me again. Is there a way to change the AdTab color
assigned
> to the 4th finger or for that matter any of the AdTab colors? The
color for
> the 4th AdTab color prints out being very close to the 1st finger
which is
> red. Thanks again… Paul
>

Hi Paul,

The creator of the AdTab concept (Brian Allen)
originally had desginated yellow for the pinky finger,
but yellow is hard to see on printouts (when printing
only digits without the symobls). The 1st, 2nd and 3rd
finger colors are Red, Green, and Blue. Black will be
the color used when no fingering is specified. I chose Pink
for the 4th finger because (with my printer at least) Pink
looks quite different from Red. What color would you suggest
for the 4th finger? I can change it, but the problem is finding
a color which will look sufficiently different from the other
three (and black) and yet which is also easy enough too
see when printed on any printer...

- Doug

( By the way, I think I've figured out why you weren't
able to print the color symbols... But I had to modify the
exe file to do it - ie. no easy switch you can set. I can
post this as a micro-update if you really want it right away )