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Re: Benq V773 service manual, need help please

2008-10-12T00:04:20Z

It would be well worth checking the electrolytics. _Any_ sign of
swelling should indicate a replacement. Most electrolytics have a flat
top and a slight bulge is enough for me. I've fixed quite a few
appliances in the last year or so and at least 50% of them were caused
by this.

Subsequent testing on a cap. meter often shows pretty close to correct
capacitance - but high or very high ESR.

Richard P

2008/10/12 Carl Denk <cdenk@...>:

> What I have done several times successfully is, take a non-conductive
> probe (wood pencil sized) probe, and tap, push on board, components,
> etc. Many times it's a poor solder joint or two or broken trace. Clean
> board of crystallized flux, examine traces with magnifying glass.
>
> cllow2020 wrote:
>> my monitor fault & shutdown, any help to get monitor benq V773 service
>> manual/ schematic diagram ? have open up take a look , EHT working, power
>> supply working, only brightness shutdown, seem like can be repair. any help
>> ?
>>
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Re: Benq V773 service manual, need help please

2008-10-11T05:43:42Z

What I have done several times successfully is, take a non-conductive
probe (wood pencil sized) probe, and tap, push on board, components,
etc. Many times it's a poor solder joint or two or broken trace. Clean
board of crystallized flux, examine traces with magnifying glass.

cllow2020 wrote:
> my monitor fault & shutdown, any help to get monitor benq V773 service
> manual/ schematic diagram ? have open up take a look , EHT working, power
> supply working, only brightness shutdown, seem like can be repair. any help
> ?
>
>
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Re: Recommendations on P&S Cameras (Was: Re: [OT]:: A camera worth buying - almost)

2008-10-11T03:56:25Z

My first time really using a DSLR is when we got a Canon Rebel XTi at
work. The best feature so far? Aperature priority mode. It adjusts the
exposure time automatically so I can get really great low light shots.
Must have a tripod though.

I really wish I could find a P&S that did really great low light
shots. Maybe someday I guess...

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Benq V773 service manual, need help please

2008-10-11T01:36:01Z

my monitor fault & shutdown, any help to get monitor benq V773 service
manual/ schematic diagram ? have open up take a look , EHT working, power
supply working, only brightness shutdown, seem like can be repair. any help
?

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Re: Wii and accessories

2008-10-10T19:28:27Z

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:52 AM, SM Ling <sm.ling11@...> wrote:
>>> But I agree that maybe a dedicated PC would be easier. The problem
>>> is that they are not so cute as Wii.
>
> Let us know if you have success with streaming video on Wii. I think
> I tried Orb??? last year when I got my Wii, but the resolution was not
> good and the streaming wasn't smooth. My wireless router could be the
> problem, but have yet to try it with the new router.
>

I have not tried Ord but I feel I would not like it. I am reluctant to
register another user name and password. And it is said the video
quality is not good.

> For the time being, my streaming method is through flash-key plus
> short leg work, and the media center is a 12" laptop.
>

We have currently the Western Digital Mybook World Edition
500GB NAS running Linux as the file server and printer
server. It works fine and we can play media through it.
The router is the Linksys WRT54G running Tomato firmware.
So it is ok to have the wireless connected Desktop and notebook
playing media through the NAS.

Still I'd like to let Wii or EEEpc or similar which is hooked to the
42" HD Ready (not full HD) LCD to play the media instead of the
4 PCs and 2 mobile devices (my wife's Nokia E71 and her brother's
HP iPaq 210 PDA which has wifi and 4 inch 640x480 VGA screen).

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Re: Wii and accessories

2008-10-10T18:52:20Z

>> But I agree that maybe a dedicated PC would be easier. The problem
>> is that they are not so cute as Wii.

Let us know if you have success with streaming video on Wii. I think
I tried Orb??? last year when I got my Wii, but the resolution was not
good and the streaming wasn't smooth. My wireless router could be the
problem, but have yet to try it with the new router.

I wanted a Eeepc to replace a DVD player that had a lost remote. It
is a weird Korea made, and now it can only play (when the disc is
loaded), stop (by eject or power off) or eject through the front panel
control. Sometime I am quite amazed with the intelligent of these
designers. They can build such a complicated machine but the only way
to control is through a remote, furthermore it is a consumer product.
This is not a joke, a real product.

>> On the other hand, some people say the old Xbox works very well
>> for this task. I might want to look for some 2nd items.

Yes, it is basically a pentium machine, it can be made to run window
media center. One of my friend hooked his up through the power-line
modem (as it is more reliable than his wireless) to support the
crucial service of streaming Catanonese drama to his mother and
in-laws.

For the time being, my streaming method is through flash-key plus
short leg work, and the media center is a 12" laptop.

Cheers, Ling SM
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Recommendations on P&S Cameras (Was: Re: [OT]:: A camera worth buying - almost)

2008-10-10T16:41:13Z

William "Chops" Westfield wrote:

> It's tough call. I figure that ideally I need three cameras:
> 1) DSLR
> 2) super-zoom P&S.
> 3) Pocket-size P&S.

Hey guys...

I love reading engineers thoughts on cameras. I also have always been
an "admire from afar" camera person...

My parents were both semi-pro photographers in former lives... but any
good photo I've ever taken (even after some classes) is still pretty
much an accident.

All I really ever use are P&S cameras, and I toy with the idea of buying
a low-end DSLR... but I don't really need it. Portability and being
rugged enough to "live" in a laptop bag in a pocket are probably the key
"design factors" I'd look for in a new camera at this point in time.

So, I'm thinking about upgrading the VERY old P&S I have (ancient
Nikon), so to change from middle-to-high-end DSLR's as a topic of
conversation to the P&S's... what do people like?

Other "nice to have" features besides the rugged and small, would be
low-light shooting indoors (lit, but like... table and desk lamps and
things... older houses that don't have a lot of night-time light is
where a lot of my family lives... no overhead room can lights and
things, just table lamps and floor lamps), and fast response time for
candid shots. It would be preferrable if the light response was good
enough that shots without flash indoors at night (with lights on) would
be possible without massive blurring when the camera is hand-held.

I also really hate it when it takes forever to a. shoot the photo once
the button is pressed, and b. recover for the next shot. a is more
important than b to me, however... if I don't MISS the candid shot
up-front, the camera doesn't really have to recover quickly for the next
one. Ya know? ;-)

Any thoughts on what you like that meet the above desires?

It may be time this Christmas to update the P&S, and let me wife carry
the old one around in her bag wherever she goes...

Nate
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Re: US Financial Crisis, does it affect you?

2008-10-10T16:24:25Z

Apptech wrote:
>> An example of how social values change over time. I find a 2 year
>> loan to buy a car you're going to keep for 5 years reasonable.
>> Conversely, a 7 year loan for a car you keep for 3 years is not OK.
>
> BUT - a 3 year loan to pay for a 3 month holiday MAY be (although saving for
> it would usually be better).
>
> ie there are some ephemeral things that may have a value whose duration
> exceeds their initial lifetime.

There are definitely "once in a lifetime" things that are worth buying,
even on credit.

Some of my learning to fly airplanes was financed... (since I know
Russell will understand this passion!), and looking back, it cost me a
lot of upside potential in those years...

But I wouldn't give up having a pilot's license in my back pocket for
all the money in the world.

Sometimes you do just have to live a little. ;-)

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Re: US Financial Crisis, does it affect you?

2008-10-10T16:21:45Z

Martin wrote:

> Jon Baker wrote:
>
>> That's an interesting thought, but a lender can't reposses a college
>> education nor anything else of such an intangible nature. I suppose
>> you could argue that a lender could be allowed to garnish wages in the
>> same manner the state is allowed to in order to recoup its money but
>> that would be a long term exercise.
>>
>> Sending the debt collectors around to take your Car, TV or home
>> cinema system is OK. Sending a surgeon around to lobotomise you is
>> probably not-so where's the deterrant stoping borrowers from
>> defaulting on loans for intangible purchases? The deterrant should be
>> that the loan is secured on an asset of value like a home or car but
>> credit cards and unsecured loans are easy to come by.
>
> That's probably why government-backed education loans can't be dismissed
> in bankruptcy. It's been a while since I read the terms of some of my
> loans, but I think they can garnish wages as well. Then there's your
> credit score which will take a nosedive, preventing you from ripping off
> other creditors.

Interestingly they ARE discharged at death (unless something's changed I
haven't read about) and are not charged to your estate, making them a
darn good deal to just leave hanging around out there, as long as your
interest rate on them is low and fixed. Lenders figured this out, and
started using variable rates in the early 2000's for most of them, at
least here in the U.S.

But if you're one of the "lucky" who has one at 2% or 3% and it's a huge
amount... it's one of the only forms of long-term debt you can safely
just leave alone and defer when/if really bad times hit you.

Personally I just won't spend giant dollars on anything, including
education, if there's not an expected return to pay it off... but those
becoming Doctors, Lawyers, Researchers, whatever... who need those
hugely expensive degrees, don't really have to worry about anything
other than making the monthly payments on student loan debt, if they can
get their interest rate fixed. If you die before you pay it off, it
literally gets "eaten" by the government.

Someone mentioned fascism in relation to student loans, and I was kinda
shocked... they're about as pure a socialism play that still gives the
lender a (small) reason to lend, as a loan can get. They're a pretty
good vehicle for both lenders and recipients. Again... here in the U.S.
anyway, if you qualify for the Federally-backed ones.

PRIVATE student loans can be really tricky waters to navigate. They're
almost always variable-rate, and if you've not done the math and decided
if the degree is really worth the possible WORST-CASE scenario to you
(calculate the maximum payments over time and make a spreadsheet)...
walk away. The terms are not ALWAYS favorable to the recipient, if you
take ten minutes to think in terms of downside, and not upside potential
from them.

Education loans are still, even with some whitewater to navigate in the
private ones, one of the best long-term debt deals out there... how many
hundreds of thousands of people wouldn't be able to pay for higher
education without them? They're definitely a Good Thing(TM)... if
managed properly, and if you qualify for the Federally-backed ones.

(If you don't qualify, you're making quite a bit more money than the
median U.S. salary anyway, and you might want to reconsider whether
higher education will provide an adequate return on investment... if
you're not in it strictly for self-edification and education. Even
then... you can learn a lot in a library, and those are free.)

Nate
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ultimate captcha

2008-10-10T10:38:13Z

self explaining subject ...

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20081005

Peter

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Re: Wii and accessories

2008-10-10T08:57:29Z

Another Wii problem: It could shake your screen too much :-)

http://www.youtube.com/experiencewii

Tamas

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Jeff Findley <jeff.findley@...> wrote:

>
> "Xiaofan Chen" <xiaofanc@...> wrote in message
> news:a276da400810100030u61700661sa222c5ce241b8191@......
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Jeff Findley <jeff.findley@...> wrote:
>>> I'm currently working on building a dedicated PC for
>>> the living room out of old PC parts.
>>
>> They say Xbox 360 works well. PS3 can do it as well but not as good as
>> Xbox 360.
>
> Too pricey for me. We already have a Wii for the kids, so another game
> system really isn't needed for us.
>
>> But I agree that maybe a dedicated PC would be easier. The problem
>> is that they are not so cute as Wii.
>
> I'm sticking mine in an old Sony 50 CD changer case. The case is tall and
> wide, but wasn't deep enough, so I grafted the motherboard/PS portion of an
> ATX PC case on the back. It looks cobbled together, but you won't see the
> PC part of the case when it's all done. I've got a serial port driven VFD
> and keypad input module I hope to use to replace the Sony VFD and hook into
> the existing keys on the front of the unit.
>
> When it's done, it ought to look just like a piece of audio equipment. The
> downside is that it will draw a lot of power when it's running. It will
> also have only S-video out, but that's o.k. because I don't have a high def
> TV yet.
>
>> On the other hand, some people say the old Xbox works very well
>> for this task. I might want to look for some 2nd items.
>
> True, but I've already got all the parts for mine and I'm having fun hacking
> up the cases to make this look nice.
>
>> But I am eying something like Asus EEEbox. It looks like Wii
>> actually. But I am not so sure if it is powerful enough with the
>> Atom CPU. It runs XP so software is quite easy to configure.
>
> Looks like an excellent solution for a flat panel high def monitor with DVI
> input.
>
> Jeff
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Re: Wii and accessories

2008-10-10T08:03:30Z

"Xiaofan Chen" <xiaofanc@...> wrote in message
news:a276da400810100030u61700661sa222c5ce241b8191@......
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Jeff Findley <jeff.findley@...> wrote:
>> I'm currently working on building a dedicated PC for
>> the living room out of old PC parts.
>
> They say Xbox 360 works well. PS3 can do it as well but not as good as
> Xbox 360.

Too pricey for me. We already have a Wii for the kids, so another game
system really isn't needed for us.

> But I agree that maybe a dedicated PC would be easier. The problem
> is that they are not so cute as Wii.

I'm sticking mine in an old Sony 50 CD changer case. The case is tall and
wide, but wasn't deep enough, so I grafted the motherboard/PS portion of an
ATX PC case on the back. It looks cobbled together, but you won't see the
PC part of the case when it's all done. I've got a serial port driven VFD
and keypad input module I hope to use to replace the Sony VFD and hook into
the existing keys on the front of the unit.

When it's done, it ought to look just like a piece of audio equipment. The
downside is that it will draw a lot of power when it's running. It will
also have only S-video out, but that's o.k. because I don't have a high def
TV yet.

> On the other hand, some people say the old Xbox works very well
> for this task. I might want to look for some 2nd items.

True, but I've already got all the parts for mine and I'm having fun hacking
up the cases to make this look nice.

> But I am eying something like Asus EEEbox. It looks like Wii
> actually. But I am not so sure if it is powerful enough with the
> Atom CPU. It runs XP so software is quite easy to configure.

Looks like an excellent solution for a flat panel high def monitor with DVI
input.

Jeff
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RE: Wii and accessories

2008-10-10T07:21:29Z

The eeeBox is a little overpriced for it's capabilities, IMHO. It depends
on what your looking for.

I've put together a few HTPC's (for friends and family). The last two being
mini-ITX form factors.
The two motherboards that I've used were the J&W 708G-SP128MB ($174CDN) and
the Jetway NC62K GF8200 ($164CDN).
The Jetway includes and DVI to HDMI adapter, which sticks out a bit so it's
not the best for certain installations.
The J&W uses a SODIMM instead of a regular DIMM, something to watch out for.

The case I've used both times is the Apex MI-008 which includes a 250W power
supply ($47CDN).
I use an AMD X2 5200+ for the processor ($75CDN).
Then there's the HD ($56), memory ($40-$50), BluRay reader ($132CDN), etc...

Overall, the cost of the box is under $550 for hardware only, add OS +
CoreAVC or Cyberlink + remote (at least MediaPortal is free!). It's more
expensive than the eeeBox but it has way more horsepower.

As Jake Anderson pointed out, there's the Intel Atom motherboard, and it is
really inexpensive. The difference between the eeeBox and the Intel
motherboard though is that the eeeBox has a DVI connector, whereas the Intel
board only has VGA. The boards play SD content without a problem, 720p is
OK, but they can't do 1080P.

As for the Wii, my kids really enjoy the few games that we have. I wouldn't
trade the Wii for any other console due to the fact that the controls are
more natural than the ol' thumb-sticks. There also seem to be more
younger-kid friendly games out there as well.

Lucas

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Subject: Re: [OT] Wii and accessories

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Jeff Findley <jeff.findley@...> wrote:
>> How do you do Media Streaming through Wii? Do you use the free
>> service from Orb? I am not comfortable with services like Orb.
>
> I used Winamp Remote to do this (looks like some flavor of Orb). It
> worked fine for streaming audio, but I didn't like the user interface
> very much, so I stopped doing this. I'm currently working on building
> a dedicated PC for the living room out of old PC parts.

They say Xbox 360 works well. PS3 can do it as well but not as good as Xbox
360.

But I agree that maybe a dedicated PC would be easier. The problem is that
they are not so cute as Wii. Xbox360 and PS3 have the same problem with PCs
or Macs in terms of high power consumption. Wii consumes much less power
than Xbox 360 and PS3.

On the other hand, some people say the old Xbox works very well for this
task. I might want to look for some 2nd items.

But I am eying something like Asus EEEbox. It looks like Wii actually. But I
am not so sure if it is powerful enough with the Atom CPU. It runs XP so
software is quite easy to configure.

Xiaofan
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Re: Wii and accessories

2008-10-10T07:08:15Z

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Jake Anderson <jake@...> wrote:
> eeebox is fairly expensive for whats in it I feel
> http://www.intel.com/Products/Desktop/Motherboards/D945GCLF/D945GCLF-overview.htm
> intel atom 1.6ghz board for ~$90 Australian in a mini-itx form factor .

I agree that EEEbox is not cheap. Maybe if they take out Windows XP,
the price will be a bit cheaper. Still I would not say it is too expensive.

Take note EEEbox has a faster CPU (N270), not the N230 used
in the board you mentioned. Most of other Atom based desktop
comes with N230. N270 is dual core. It is not as powerful as
the N330 used in the D945GCLF2 board though.
http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/D945GCLF2/D945GCLF2-overview.htm

> still it will be much better when they marry it up to a chipset that is
> equally as power friendly as the cpu.

That is true. I think they will. In that case, I expect many other equipment
to use Atom instead of ARM9/ARM11 class processor for Windows CE,
Windows embedded and Linux.

> then you can do something like this
> http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/r2d2pc/
> which looks loads better than anything off the shelf ;->

Actually the R2D2PC on the page seem to use cheap
plastics and not really very cute IMHO...

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Re: Wii and accessories

2008-10-10T06:38:27Z

Xiaofan Chen wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Jeff Findley <jeff.findley@...> wrote:
>
>>> How do you do Media Streaming through Wii? Do you
>>> use the free service from Orb? I am not comfortable with
>>> services like Orb.
>>>
>> I used Winamp Remote to do this (looks like some flavor of Orb). It worked
>> fine for streaming audio, but I didn't like the user interface very much, so
>> I stopped doing this. I'm currently working on building a dedicated PC for
>> the living room out of old PC parts.
>>
>
> They say Xbox 360 works well. PS3 can do it as well but not as good as
> Xbox 360.
>
> But I agree that maybe a dedicated PC would be easier. The problem
> is that they are not so cute as Wii. Xbox360 and PS3 have the same
> problem with PCs or Macs in terms of high power consumption. Wii
> consumes much less power than Xbox 360 and PS3.
>
> On the other hand, some people say the old Xbox works very well
> for this task. I might want to look for some 2nd items.
>
> But I am eying something like Asus EEEbox. It looks like Wii
> actually. But I am not so sure if it is powerful enough with the
> Atom CPU. It runs XP so software is quite easy to configure.
>
> Xiaofan
>

eeebox is fairly expensive for whats in it I feel
http://www.intel.com/Products/Desktop/Motherboards/D945GCLF/D945GCLF-overview.htm
intel atom 1.6ghz board for ~$90 Australian in a mini-itx form factor .

still it will be much better when they marry it up to a chipset that is
equally as power friendly as the cpu.

then you can do something like this
http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/r2d2pc/
which looks loads better than anything off the shelf ;->

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Re: Wii and accessories

2008-10-10T01:11:36Z

In message
<a276da400810100030u61700661sa222c5ce241b8191@...>, Xiaofan
Chen <xiaofanc@...> writes
>But I am eying something like Asus EEEbox. It looks like Wii
>actually. But I am not so sure if it is powerful enough with the
>Atom CPU. It runs XP so software is quite easy to configure.
Watch out for the free virus they ship with. You could also look out for
a Dreambox or other 'open' DTTV/DVBSat receiver, they run Linux and can
be made into quite nice front ends for things like MythTV etc.
>
>Xiaofan

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Re: Wii and accessories

2008-10-10T00:30:39Z

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Jeff Findley <jeff.findley@...> wrote:
>> How do you do Media Streaming through Wii? Do you
>> use the free service from Orb? I am not comfortable with
>> services like Orb.
>
> I used Winamp Remote to do this (looks like some flavor of Orb). It worked
> fine for streaming audio, but I didn't like the user interface very much, so
> I stopped doing this. I'm currently working on building a dedicated PC for
> the living room out of old PC parts.

They say Xbox 360 works well. PS3 can do it as well but not as good as
Xbox 360.

But I agree that maybe a dedicated PC would be easier. The problem
is that they are not so cute as Wii. Xbox360 and PS3 have the same
problem with PCs or Macs in terms of high power consumption. Wii
consumes much less power than Xbox 360 and PS3.

On the other hand, some people say the old Xbox works very well
for this task. I might want to look for some 2nd items.

But I am eying something like Asus EEEbox. It looks like Wii
actually. But I am not so sure if it is powerful enough with the
Atom CPU. It runs XP so software is quite easy to configure.

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Re: A real Sub US$100 Laptop running Linux

2008-10-09T08:31:28Z

Herbert Graf wrote:
> Very neat, not being x86 based will certainly present a barrier to
> adoption by the masses, but for many it might be fine. I suppose we'll
> see if this sort of idea will catch on.
>
> TTYL
>

I feel like not being x86 isn't nearly as much of a burden as it once
was probably mainly because of linux. I remember the Acorn Risc machine
that used an ARM - came out in 1994, the only thing you could run on it
was "RISC OS". Today you could run Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, etc. Also,
most people are happy "these days" if it runs Firefox and Flash.

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Re: A real Sub US$100 Laptop running Linux

2008-10-09T07:51:07Z

Very neat, not being x86 based will certainly present a barrier to
adoption by the masses, but for many it might be fine. I suppose we'll
see if this sort of idea will catch on.

TTYL

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 21:20 +0800, Xiaofan Chen wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKQbN6tpYXw
>
> Pretty cool.
>
> It is running MIPS clone and Linux.
>
> But it is not listed in the company website yet. So
> not so sure when it will be available.
> http://hvsco.com/index.asp
>
>
> Xiaofan

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A real Sub US$100 Laptop running Linux

2008-10-09T06:20:17Z

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKQbN6tpYXw

Pretty cool.

It is running MIPS clone and Linux.

But it is not listed in the company website yet. So
not so sure when it will be available.
http://hvsco.com/index.asp

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Re: Over-the-horizon radar

2008-10-08T17:16:09Z

The over-the-horizon russian radar sounded like a "woodpecker".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Woodpecker

Mark Jordan

On 8 Oct 2008 at 18:09, Sean Breheny wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> I am in Massachusetts, USA. I found a recording of what raw
> digital
> radio mondiale sounds like and it is not the same as what I heard.
> Both sound somewhat like white noise, but the signals I heard had
> a
> really significant "chugging" sound to them, almost like a steam
> engine at high RPM. In other words, the noise was being amplitude
> modulated rapidly, and it also sounded like the noise was being
> shifted up and down in frequency at a slower rate.
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Peter Onion
> <Peter.Onion@...> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 15:48 -0400, Sean Breheny wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Last night while listening to the 2-3MHz region of the HF
> spectrum, I
> >> heard several strong signals which I suspect may be
> over-the-horizon
> >> radar signals. I was not able to find a published list of OTHR
> >> frequencies, perhaps because they change often. Specifically, I
> heard
> >> these signals on 2844 KHz, 2758KHz and 2700KHz. They sound
> somewhat
> >> like modulated white noise, sorta like a cross between a vacuum
> >> cleaner and a truck engine :) I'm fairly certain that this was
> nothing
> >> generated locally in my receiver or neighborhood.
> >>
> >> Any ideas on identification?
> >
> > You don't say where in the world you are located.
> >
> > Just an idea, could it have been "Digital Radio Mondiale"
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Radio_Mondiale
> >
> > PeterO
> >
> >
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Re: Over-the-horizon radar

2008-10-08T15:17:53Z

> really significant "chugging" sound to them, almost like a steam
> engine at high RPM. In other words, the noise was being amplitude
> modulated rapidly, and it also sounded like the noise was being
> shifted up and down in frequency at a slower rate.

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Re: Over-the-horizon radar

2008-10-08T15:09:27Z

Hi Peter,

I am in Massachusetts, USA. I found a recording of what raw digital
radio mondiale sounds like and it is not the same as what I heard.
Both sound somewhat like white noise, but the signals I heard had a
really significant "chugging" sound to them, almost like a steam
engine at high RPM. In other words, the noise was being amplitude
modulated rapidly, and it also sounded like the noise was being
shifted up and down in frequency at a slower rate.

Sean

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Peter Onion <Peter.Onion@...> wrote:

>
> On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 15:48 -0400, Sean Breheny wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Last night while listening to the 2-3MHz region of the HF spectrum, I
>> heard several strong signals which I suspect may be over-the-horizon
>> radar signals. I was not able to find a published list of OTHR
>> frequencies, perhaps because they change often. Specifically, I heard
>> these signals on 2844 KHz, 2758KHz and 2700KHz. They sound somewhat
>> like modulated white noise, sorta like a cross between a vacuum
>> cleaner and a truck engine :) I'm fairly certain that this was nothing
>> generated locally in my receiver or neighborhood.
>>
>> Any ideas on identification?
>
> You don't say where in the world you are located.
>
> Just an idea, could it have been "Digital Radio Mondiale"
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Radio_Mondiale
>
> PeterO
>
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Re: Over-the-horizon radar

2008-10-08T13:23:50Z

On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 15:48 -0400, Sean Breheny wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Last night while listening to the 2-3MHz region of the HF spectrum, I
> heard several strong signals which I suspect may be over-the-horizon
> radar signals. I was not able to find a published list of OTHR
> frequencies, perhaps because they change often. Specifically, I heard
> these signals on 2844 KHz, 2758KHz and 2700KHz. They sound somewhat
> like modulated white noise, sorta like a cross between a vacuum
> cleaner and a truck engine :) I'm fairly certain that this was nothing
> generated locally in my receiver or neighborhood.
>
> Any ideas on identification?

You don't say where in the world you are located.

Just an idea, could it have been "Digital Radio Mondiale"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Radio_Mondiale

PeterO

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Over-the-horizon radar

2008-10-08T12:48:23Z

Hi all,

Last night while listening to the 2-3MHz region of the HF spectrum, I
heard several strong signals which I suspect may be over-the-horizon
radar signals. I was not able to find a published list of OTHR
frequencies, perhaps because they change often. Specifically, I heard
these signals on 2844 KHz, 2758KHz and 2700KHz. They sound somewhat
like modulated white noise, sorta like a cross between a vacuum
cleaner and a truck engine :) I'm fairly certain that this was nothing
generated locally in my receiver or neighborhood.

Any ideas on identification?

Thanks,

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Re: How do you deal with old IT stuff

2008-10-08T12:07:48Z

I'm threwing to the garbage all old IT stuff.
The only thing I'm keeping is real electronics: tubes
I've got hundred of tubes and just starting producing some KITs with
tubes, for people who like to understand what is real electronics.
Electronics with tubes it was an art. Electronics with
microcontrollers, ARM or DSP it's a national sport. Everybody is
programming those, like football. Who care if nobody understood
exactly what is inside...
:)

On 10/6/08, Xiaofan Chen <xiaofanc@...> wrote:

> Over the years I have accumulated some IT stuffs. Now I am not that
> interested in them but occasionally I will switch them on just to
> see if they are alive or not.
>
> Just wondering if you have some ideas of reusing them? You might
> want to share your experiences as well.
>
> 1. Palm IIIxe bought in year 2000
> I was using it as a eBook reader and basic PDA function. But it
> is not expandable. The battery life (2 AAA rechargeable)
> is still good.
>
> 2. HP Jonarda 545 PocketPC 2002 bought in year 2002
> I was using it as a PDA and even bought a Wifi adapter for it
> but I did not use it so often as I bought a notebook (Dell 600M)
> for study. Later I gave it to my wife as a Electronics dictionary
> using MDICT. Now she has the Nokia E71 and I am not so sure
> how to effectively use it again. The build quality of the PDA is really
> good and the rechargeable battery still can last one week or
> more with casual use. The interface seems to be faulty
> now so I could only use IRDA as the transfer method
> if I need to use ActiveSync. The charger works fine.
>
> 3. An old NEC MobilePro 400 Windows CE 1.0 Handheld
> with 2.0 ROM upgrade, bought 2nd hand in 2001 (for about
> US$35), just curious about Windows CE at that time. Microsoft
> was rather stupid to ask the user to use double click on handheld
> PC. The battery life (2 AA rechargeable) is quite bad but it
> comes with an AC adapter along with the docking station
> (serial port). It has also an PCMPIA card slot but PCMCIA
> CF card adapter does not work. It is also too slow to be
> useful. So I will only keep this as a collectible.
>
> 4. The Dell 600M (bought back in 2003) now has a problem.
> It seems to me that the motherboard keyboard controller
> is faulty now since it keeps sending random keys.
> I tried to remove the keyboard connection and use
> an external USB keyboard without success. It
> is running Windows XP and Fedora Core 6 but I
> could not effectively disable the on-board keyboard
> controller.
>
> 5. There are many other small items, like an old Ethernet
> ADSL modem (Speedstream 5260), SoundBlaster Life
> sound card, and some of the old items that I could not
> use any more: two AGP graphics card, 2x512M DDR RAM
> now that my old desktop is dead (Gigabyte motherboard
> NF3 based chipset with ADM Atholon 64 3000+, most
> likely the motherboard is faulty), a DVD writer. I also
> got an extra PCI Wireless card. I was thinking of getting
> a 2nd hand motherboard+CPU to revive the PC but
> later decided against the idea as new sets are also
> very cheap. The missing item is a home server which
> match the 42 inch HD Ready LCD TV, not one more
> ugly PC. Maybe Wii can act as the home server but
> it seems not powerful enough. An XBOX 360 would be
> a better bet. Or maybe an ASUS EEEbox will do.
>
> 6. I also got the extra Linksys WRT54G from my brother
> (I gave him my Linksys USB Wifi Adapter). Not so
> sure how to use it effectively.
>
> 7. And then I have the old cell phones like Nokia 8250
> and Nokia 3350. I'd like to use the Nokia 6280 my wife
> was using before she got the E71. Somehow it does not
> like my SIM card. It reports "SIM card rejected". The same
> SIM card works with other phones at home including the E71,
> just not the Nokia 6280. And other SIM cards works with the
> Nokia 6280. Unfortunately I am using the prepaid
> service and they do not allow number retention for
> prepaid customers. Take note we do not have locked
> phones here in Singapore so it is not an issue with
> locked phone.
>
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Re: China to allow margin trading, short selling on trial basis

2008-10-08T09:45:11Z

Xiaofan Chen wrote:
> I think this is really bad decision.
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081005/bs_afp/stockschinapolicy
>
> Again I think that brokers will earn huge returns but the
> stock market investor will suffer even more.
>
>
> Xiaofan

"Goldman goes bankrupt ... comes out ahead
Foolish colleague Morgan Housel and I were speculating that Goldman
Sachs (NYSE: GS) will go belly-up ... but that it will make a profit
after shorting its own stock -- with leverage and options, of course. "

<http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2008/10/08/fool-blog-if-the-onion-wrote-for-the-fool.aspx>

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Re: Wii and accessories

2008-10-08T05:51:11Z

"Xiaofan Chen" <xiaofanc@...> wrote in message
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> How do you do Media Streaming through Wii? Do you
> use the free service from Orb? I am not comfortable with
> services like Orb.

I used Winamp Remote to do this (looks like some flavor of Orb). It worked
fine for streaming audio, but I didn't like the user interface very much, so
I stopped doing this. I'm currently working on building a dedicated PC for
the living room out of old PC parts.

>> You have to note that it's not a machine that hard core gamers will
>> appreciate as much as an Xbox 360 or even a PS3. There is no high
>> definition video output.
>
> Yeah, that is a disappointment.
>
> My friend got a PS3, the graphics are superb. It is also a very
> good BlueRay player. He is not a gamer either so he does not
> want to buy any games for PS3. Still he can download some
> game demos for free.

BlueRay is definately a plus for the PS3, especially with the high cost of
current stand-alone BlueRay players.

> I do not see game demos for Wii, I only find NDS demos.
>
> I tried out some Flash based free games for Wii but I
> have yet to find a good one.
>
> Wii does not even play DVD. But this is not a problem
> for me. I have a Philips DVD player (capable of Divx)
> as well but I seldom use it as I do not really rent
> DVDs or buy DVDs.

DVD players are so cheap these days, I don't think this is a problem. Cheap
ones are "everywhere" in the US for $30 USD or less.

>> The controllers may be easy to learn, but I don't
>> think they're precise enough for hard core gamers, who are
>> used to dozens of buttons and control sticks on a more
>> ergonomic controller. To them, the blocky Wiimote is likely to
>> be considered a toy. Turn the Wiimote sideways
>> and it's direction control (digital) and a/b buttons reminds
>> you of the original NES, not a 21st century hard core gaming
>> machine.
>
> How about the Classic controller? Maybe Logitech or other
> companies can come out some good solutions later.

We don't have any Classic controllers since we have not bought any classic
games which would use them. Also, we have several GameCube controllers,
which work for GameCube and some of the classic games that you can download.
Compatability with GameCube games is a plus since those can be found cheap
these days.

> There are quite some plastic only Wii accessory (kind of
> Wiimote adapters). Not so sure if I am going to buy any
> of them. So far, I am enjoying Wii Sports.

I don't have any of these either. They don't appear to be necessary for
most games. Mario Kart comes with a plastic steering wheel, but people I've
talked to say that's not really necessary either.

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test message please ignore

2008-10-07T19:19:13Z

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Re: Wii and accessories

2008-10-07T19:02:31Z

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Jeff Findley <jeff.findley@...> wrote:

> The online store is a neat idea, with lots of classic NES, SNES, and etc.
> games available for purchase by downloading.

I bought the game "Defend Your Castle", kind of a silly game.

And I am not so sure if it is a good idea to play NES/SNES game on
a large screen Full HD (1080p) or HD-Ready LCD TV.

>
> The web browser, a ported version of Opera, is adequate for casual web
> surfing on the living room TV, but it's not too good at delivering all forms
> of streaming content. The video streaming isn't quite up to snuff (hulu.com
> won't work). It's good enough for YouTube, but not much else. Audio
> streaming is o.k. but not stellar. I don't think it supports more than
> regular stereo sound.

I bought the Internet Channel (Opera). Wii is quite a poor
Internet browsing machine. The Chinese support is broken.

How do you do Media Streaming through Wii? Do you
use the free service from Orb? I am not comfortable with
services like Orb.

> You have to note that it's not a machine that hard core gamers will
> appreciate as much as an Xbox 360 or even a PS3. There is no high
> definition video output.

Yeah, that is a disappointment.

My friend got a PS3, the graphics are superb. It is also a very
good BlueRay player. He is not a gamer either so he does not
want to buy any games for PS3. Still he can download some
game demos for free.

I do not see game demos for Wii, I only find NDS demos.

I tried out some Flash based free games for Wii but I
have yet to find a good one.

Wii does not even play DVD. But this is not a problem
for me. I have a Philips DVD player (capable of Divx)
as well but I seldom use it as I do not really rent
DVDs or buy DVDs.

> The controllers may be easy to learn, but I don't
> think they're precise enough for hard core gamers, who are
> used to dozens of buttons and control sticks on a more
> ergonomic controller. To them, the blocky Wiimote is likely to
> be considered a toy. Turn the Wiimote sideways
> and it's direction control (digital) and a/b buttons reminds
> you of the original NES, not a 21st century hard core gaming
> machine.

How about the Classic controller? Maybe Logitech or other
companies can come out some good solutions later.

There are quite some plastic only Wii accessory (kind of
Wiimote adapters). Not so sure if I am going to buy any
of them. So far, I am enjoying Wii Sports.

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Re: Wii and accessories

2008-10-07T15:41:21Z

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Jeff Findley <jeff.findley@...> wrote:
>
> "Marc Nicholas" <geekything@...> wrote in message
>> You must consider the additional cost of duct-taping your TV.
>> http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com/
>
> Use the wrist straps! Early deliveries of the Wii had Wiimote wrist straps
> which weren't strong enough. The Nintendo website has info on this and will
> replace the old style wrist straps for free.

The Wiimotes we have have wrist straps and jackets (to have better grips).
And Wii will always remind you to fasten the wrist straps.

> And keep back from the TV! The Wii simply isn't suited for four players in
> a tiny apartment sized living room if you're playing any type of Wii game
> which encourages large movements (like the Wii Sports games which come with
> the Wii console). I've heard reports from co-workers about flying Wiimotes
> (forgot to fasten the wrist strap) and Wiimotes hitting other people in
> heated Tennis matches. But our house hasn't had any such incidents yet.
>

So far we have no accident with Wiimotes. But once my Numchunk
controller did fly away from me when I was playing Wii Sports Boxing game.
Since Numchunk is always attached to the Wiimote, it is not that
dangerous but still we need to be careful.

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Re: Wii and accessories

2008-10-07T06:52:45Z

"Marc Nicholas" <geekything@...> wrote in message
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> You must consider the additional cost of duct-taping your TV.
> http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com/

Use the wrist straps! Early deliveries of the Wii had Wiimote wrist straps
which weren't strong enough. The Nintendo website has info on this and will
replace the old style wrist straps for free.

And keep back from the TV! The Wii simply isn't suited for four players in
a tiny apartment sized living room if you're playing any type of Wii game
which encourages large movements (like the Wii Sports games which come with
the Wii console). I've heard reports from co-workers about flying Wiimotes
(forgot to fasten the wrist strap) and Wiimotes hitting other people in
heated Tennis matches. But our house hasn't had any such incidents yet.

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Re: Wii and accessories

2008-10-07T06:46:33Z

"Clint Sharp" <piclist@...> wrote in message
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> In message
> <a276da400809301742x33bfca6bo19081094c1e04aab@...>, Xiaofan
> Chen <xiaofanc@...> writes
>>Do you have a Wii and what do you do with it?
>>Do you like it?
> Love my Wii, my daughter plays Wii fit as does my partner and I, we all
> play Mario Kart (which is *very* addictive when played against other
> people).
>
> It's not so much a graphics engine as a PS3 or XBox 360 but the
> gameplay more than makes up for that. In fact it's getting more use than
> my PS2 ever did.

The Wii is a system that my wife and kids, all the way down to our 7 year
old, love to play. The controllers are easy enough to learn that they can
pick them up and almost immediately start having fun.

The online store is a neat idea, with lots of classic NES, SNES, and etc.
games available for purchase by downloading. The Wii will also play
GameCube games if you plug in GameCube controllers (open the door on the top
to reveal the sockets), so you can buy cheap games at the used game stores.
We have not done much of this since we already have a N64 and GameCube at
home, so we have enough "classic" games to keep us happy.

The web browser, a ported version of Opera, is adequate for casual web
surfing on the living room TV, but it's not too good at delivering all forms
of streaming content. The video streaming isn't quite up to snuff (hulu.com
won't work). It's good enough for YouTube, but not much else. Audio
streaming is o.k. but not stellar. I don't think it supports more than
regular stereo sound.

You have to note that it's not a machine that hard core gamers will
appreciate as much as an Xbox 360 or even a PS3. There is no high
definition video output. The controllers may be easy to learn, but I don't
think they're precise enough for hard core gamers, who are used to dozens of
buttons and control sticks on a more ergonomic controller. To them, the
blocky Wiimote is likely to be considered a toy. Turn the Wiimote sideways
and it's direction control (digital) and a/b buttons reminds you of the
original NES, not a 21st century hard core gaming machine.

Jeff
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Re: Wii and accessories

2008-10-07T05:19:58Z

>You must consider the additional cost of duct-taping your TV.
> http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com/
>
>:)

Hmm, that made for an interesting lunchtime ... ;)))))

Gives a whole new meaning to 'hang on to your ... '

Now where can I get a sword wielding robot that can guard my house ...
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