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Opinion about mycare2x

by rafael bonifaz :: Rate this Message:

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Hi all,

I would just like to know the opinion of you people abouta mycare2x[1]

[1] http://mycare2x.com/

Regards,

Rafael

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Re: Opinion about mycare2x

by varia :: Rate this Message:

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rafael bonifaz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I would just like to know the opinion of you people abouta mycare2x[1]

Very nice page. It looks very professional.

Reading: "Support and maintenance
As a matter of course we are offering support and maintenance for your
installation of myCare2x. ",

just makes one wonder, were did you commit the patch to make Care2x work
with PHP5?


Regards,

M.

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Re: Opinion about mycare2x

by gjergj sheldija :: Rate this Message:

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nice theme :)

apart the humour...
except that they have clearly infringed the GPL not giving the source code

they have done and interesting job integrating agata reports &
integrated some nice modules, like the appoitments ...

regards
gjergji


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> Hi all,
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> I would just like to know the opinion of you people abouta mycare2x[1]
>
> [1] http://mycare2x.com/
>
> Regards,
>
> Rafael
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Re: Opinion about mycare2x

by varia :: Rate this Message:

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Gjergj Sheldija wrote:
> nice theme :)
>
> apart the humour...
> except that they have clearly infringed the GPL not giving the source code

mycare2x.com seems to be based in Germany (their address is: An der
Weinleite 5a, 85560 Ebersberg, Germany)

Knowing both German and European Law, it seems very improbable that what
they are doing is being done without Elpidio Latorilla's authorization.

If that was not the case it would be a simple matter of reporting it to:
http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-violation.htmlacting

As long as Elpidio's is the sole copyright owner of
all of Care2x's code (both the code written exclusively by him, and any
other piece of code contributed by anyone else), he can license it under
any other conditions (open or closed) that he chooses to. Those are the
facts of Copyright Law.

In this aspect Care2x is quite different from Linux, Apache or even
Mozilla, that are collectively owned by groups of people or organizations.

M.


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Re: Opinion about mycare2x

by gjergj sheldija :: Rate this Message:

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hi,

actually as i understand the licensing of c2x is a bit messy.
it is gpl and has bsd , apache, gpl 2 licensed code inside...

is gpl-ed but one can make modifications without
giving back the code to the community, which, as i know
is a violation....

but i'm not so good on understanding all those legal stuff :(

regards
gj.

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Re: Opinion about mycare2x

by Elpidio Latorilla :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,
 
They have been reported already sometime ago. They are in violation.
 
Elpidio

On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 5:08 AM, <varia@...> wrote:
Gjergj Sheldija wrote:
> nice theme :)
>
> apart the humour...
> except that they have clearly infringed the GPL not giving the source code

mycare2x.com seems to be based in Germany (their address is: An der
Weinleite 5a, 85560 Ebersberg, Germany)

Knowing both German and European Law, it seems very improbable that what
they are doing is being done without Elpidio Latorilla's authorization.

If that was not the case it would be a simple matter of reporting it to:
http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-violation.htmlacting

As long as Elpidio's is the sole copyright owner of
all of Care2x's code (both the code written exclusively by him, and any
other piece of code contributed by anyone else), he can license it under
any other conditions (open or closed) that he chooses to. Those are the
facts of Copyright Law.

In this aspect Care2x is quite different from Linux, Apache or even
Mozilla, that are collectively owned by groups of people or organizations.

M.


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Re: Opinion about mycare2x

by Elpidio Latorilla :: Rate this Message:

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Hello Rafael,
 
myCare2x is based on Care2x, not just merely on the code but the whole concept, the general design,
the philosophy among many other little things. In fact the name alone is derived from Care2x.
 
you will see at their website the notice "open source lösung..." which means "open source solution".
 
You can ask them for an open copy of their source code. If it is true that they follow the license
conditions of open source programs, then they should provide you a copy.  If the don't, then you
can come to a conclusion.
 
Elpidio

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:16 AM, rafael bonifaz <rafael.bonifaz@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I would just like to know the opinion of you people abouta mycare2x[1]

[1] http://mycare2x.com/

Regards,

Rafael

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Re: Opinion about mycare2x

by rafael bonifaz :: Rate this Message:

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On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Elpidio Latorilla <elpidio.latorilla@...> wrote:
Hello Rafael,
 
myCare2x is based on Care2x, not just merely on the code but the whole concept, the general design,
the philosophy among many other little things. In fact the name alone is derived from Care2x.
 

Is it actually a fork from Care2x? Does it uses its code for sure?
 
you will see at their website the notice "open source lösung..." which means "open source solution".
 
Yes I know, the have an English version of it too.
 
You can ask them for an open copy of their source code. If it is true that they follow the license
conditions of open source programs, then they should provide you a copy.  If the don't, then you
can come to a conclusion.
 

They told me that they have a dual license policy similar to the way MySQL does. So they have the proprietary version and the "Open Source" Version. When I was first contacted by Joachin Mollin (Who I understan reads this mailing list) from MyCare2x he told me that the Open Source version would not allow me to make public releases of the source code or the my modification.

So then I asked for a real FOSS license in order to implement this software in our hospitals in Ecuador he told me that he can give us the code with GPL.

I am not a lawyer, but I do understand Free (libre) Software[1] and I get the main point about GPL. I MyCare2x is completely made from scratch without any code from Mycare2x, then they can dual license the software. But If it is a fork from Care2x then it must be GPL, unless the original authors give them the source code with another license.

Regards,

Rafael


[1] In fact I am a member of FSF Latin America: http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/about/about

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Re: Opinion about mycare2x

by rafael bonifaz :: Rate this Message:

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Sorry for missing one point. Is completly acceptable to modify a version of a GPL software and not make it public. But if you sell that software to some one else, it should be GPL.

Regards,

Rafael



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