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	OpenSUSE 11.0 locks up by James Knott :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message I've been trying to install OpenSUSE 11.0 on my ThinkPad R31 model 2656-6FU and have noticed it frequently locks up solid, requiring a power down to reboot. Has anyone else experienced this? This computer worked fine 10.3 and earlier versions. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad
	Re: OpenSUSE 11.0 locks up by Chris Penn-2 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message I was working with suse 11 on my thinkpad t61p, I found debian and/or ubuntu hardy heron had less issues from a vanilla install. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:38 PM, James Knott <james.knott@...> wrote: > I've been trying to install OpenSUSE 11.0 on my ThinkPad R31 model > 2656-6FU and have noticed it frequently locks up solid, requiring a > power down to reboot. Has anyone else experienced this? This computer > worked fine 10.3 and earlier versions. > > -- > Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> > > -- > The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: > http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad > -- "As we open our newspapers or watch our television screens, we seem to be continually assaulted by the fruits of Mankind's stupidity." -Roger Penrose -- The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad
	Re: OpenSUSE 11.0 locks up by James Knott :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Chris Penn wrote: > I was working with suse 11 on my thinkpad t61p, I found debian and/or > ubuntu hardy heron had less issues from a vanilla install. > I have been using SUSE for a few years now and I'd prefer to stay with it. Also, I don't care for Ubuntu and didn't think much of Debian, though I haven't done much with it either. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad
	Re: OpenSUSE 11.0 locks up by Nathaniel Smith :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 08:38:30PM -0400, James Knott wrote: > I've been trying to install OpenSUSE 11.0 on my ThinkPad R31 model > 2656-6FU and have noticed it frequently locks up solid, requiring a > power down to reboot. Has anyone else experienced this? This computer > worked fine 10.3 and earlier versions. I just switched from Debian to Ubuntu on my X60, including a kernel upgrade from 2.6.22 to 2.6.25, and started seeing lockups exactly like you describe. Of course there are lots of ways for the kernel to freeze so it's hard to say if we're running into the same bug or not, but it's possible there's something nasty hiding in the latest upstream kernel that these new distros are just picking up on... (I've so far only see lockups while the ethernet port was in use -- how about you?) -- Nathaniel -- Electrons find their paths in subtle ways. -- The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad
	Re: OpenSUSE 11.0 locks up by James Knott :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 08:38:30PM -0400, James Knott wrote: > >> I've been trying to install OpenSUSE 11.0 on my ThinkPad R31 model >> 2656-6FU and have noticed it frequently locks up solid, requiring a >> power down to reboot. Has anyone else experienced this? This computer >> worked fine 10.3 and earlier versions. >> > > I just switched from Debian to Ubuntu on my X60, including a kernel > upgrade from 2.6.22 to 2.6.25, and started seeing lockups exactly like > you describe. Of course there are lots of ways for the kernel to > freeze so it's hard to say if we're running into the same bug or not, > but it's possible there's something nasty hiding in the latest > upstream kernel that these new distros are just picking up on... > > (I've so far only see lockups while the ethernet port was in use -- > how about you?) > > -- Nathaniel > > Well, I use networking a lot, so it's hard to say. However, I switched from the PAE to default kernel and so far it seems to be OK. Time will tell. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad
	Re: OpenSUSE 11.0 locks up by Takis Diakoumis :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Hi i think i may have experienced a similar thing (Nathaniel's mention of the networking thing prompted me) on my T61. i run debian testing with a custom vanilla kernel - its happened since 2.6.22.x kernels i think. (i also think i've reported this on this list to no avail some months ago). i currently have 2.6.25.7. this has happened a fair bit in the past. at times when i expect it to happen, i have switched to a terminal and the most consistent part of the dump has been around the following: smp.c:209 thats about all i have. after experimenting though, i have found that having the wireless on with a network cable also plugged in was a sure way to replicate the problem. this doesn't happen everywhere but ALWAYS from home where my machine recognises my access point (this is the only 'guess' of what might be happening that i can come up with). it just dies. the other thing i notice is the caps-lock button flashing. i have no solution except to set the wireless switch to off when connected via cable from noticed trouble spots. Takis On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 20:38 -0400, James Knott wrote: > I've been trying to install OpenSUSE 11.0 on my ThinkPad R31 model > 2656-6FU and have noticed it frequently locks up solid, requiring a > power down to reboot. Has anyone else experienced this? This computer > worked fine 10.3 and earlier versions. > > -- > Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> > -- The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad
	Re: OpenSUSE 11.0 locks up by Chris Penn-2 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message I use both distros at the production level. I prefer Debian but like suse. The only reason I mention Debian and Ubuntu is that they tend to be more compatible with newer/Laptop hardware IMO. If you really want to show off, you do it with gentoo stage one or slackware and forget the package management altogether. Its all the same kernel. Chris.. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 8:16 PM, James Knott <james.knott@...> wrote: > Chris Penn wrote: >> >> I was working with suse 11 on my thinkpad t61p, I found debian and/or >> ubuntu hardy heron had less issues from a vanilla install. >> > > I have been using SUSE for a few years now and I'd prefer to stay with it. > Also, I don't care for Ubuntu and didn't think much of Debian, though I > haven't done much with it either. > > > -- > Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> > -- > The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: > http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad > -- "As we open our newspapers or watch our television screens, we seem to be continually assaulted by the fruits of Mankind's stupidity." -Roger Penrose -- The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad
	Re: OpenSUSE 11.0 locks up by James Knott :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Takis Diakoumis wrote: > Hi > > i think i may have experienced a similar thing (Nathaniel's mention of > the networking thing prompted me) on my T61. i run debian testing with a > custom vanilla kernel - its happened since 2.6.22.x kernels i think. (i > also think i've reported this on this list to no avail some months ago). > i currently have 2.6.25.7. > > I switched from the PAE to default kernel and it hasn't locked up since. I hope that fixes it. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad
	Re: OpenSUSE 11.0 locks up by Pablo Gallenti :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message I had the same experience, On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:38 PM, James Knott <james.knott@...> wrote: I've been trying to install OpenSUSE 11.0 on my ThinkPad R31 model 2656-6FU and have noticed it frequently locks up solid, requiring a power down to reboot. Has anyone else experienced this? This computer worked fine 10.3 and earlier versions. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad -- Atentamente Pablo A Gallenti
	Re: OpenSUSE 11.0 locks up by Bugzilla from lenz@grimmer.com :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Hi James, On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:38 AM, James Knott <james.knott@...> wrote: > I've been trying to install OpenSUSE 11.0 on my ThinkPad R31 model > 2656-6FU and have noticed it frequently locks up solid, requiring a > power down to reboot. Has anyone else experienced this? This computer > worked fine 10.3 and earlier versions. I can't recall any frequent lockups on openSUSE for a very long time. 11.0 works flawlessly here on two Thinkpads (T42 and T61), using the "-default" kernel. Bye, LenZ -- The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad
	Re: OpenSUSE 11.0 locks up by James Knott :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Lenz Grimmer wrote: > Hi James, > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:38 AM, James Knott <james.knott@...> wrote: > > >> I've been trying to install OpenSUSE 11.0 on my ThinkPad R31 model >> 2656-6FU and have noticed it frequently locks up solid, requiring a >> power down to reboot. Has anyone else experienced this? This computer >> worked fine 10.3 and earlier versions. >> > > I can't recall any frequent lockups on openSUSE for a very long time. > 11.0 works flawlessly here on two Thinkpads (T42 and T61), using the > "-default" kernel. > > I also switched from the PAE to default kernel. I haven't had any lock ups since then. Hopefully that fixed it. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad
	Re: OpenSUSE 11.0 locks up by Bugzilla from axel.braun@gmx.de :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message James Knott wrote: > I've been trying to install OpenSUSE 11.0 on my ThinkPad R31 model > 2656-6FU and have noticed it frequently locks up solid, requiring a > power down to reboot. Has anyone else experienced this? This computer > worked fine 10.3 and earlier versions. I have 11.0 running on a A30 - works fine. except the Netgear WG511 WLAN card was a pain, as SuSE did not deliver the firmware drivers (ubuntu did!) After I had the firmware installed, WPA encryption works. Best, Axel -- Linux on a ThinkPad: www.axxite.com/brn -- The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad
	Re: OpenSUSE 11.0 locks up by Chris Penn-2 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message When you say flawless, What about Hibernate and Suspend? Are you using a AT&T or Verizon card? Chris... On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Lenz Grimmer <lenz@...> wrote: > Hi James, > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:38 AM, James Knott <james.knott@...> wrote: > >> I've been trying to install OpenSUSE 11.0 on my ThinkPad R31 model >> 2656-6FU and have noticed it frequently locks up solid, requiring a >> power down to reboot. Has anyone else experienced this? This computer >> worked fine 10.3 and earlier versions. > > I can't recall any frequent lockups on openSUSE for a very long time. > 11.0 works flawlessly here on two Thinkpads (T42 and T61), using the > "-default" kernel. > > Bye, > LenZ > -- > The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: > http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad > -- "As we open our newspapers or watch our television screens, we seem to be continually assaulted by the fruits of Mankind's stupidity." -Roger Penrose -- The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad
	Re: OpenSUSE 11.0 locks up by Bugzilla from lenz@grimmer.com :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 07/02/2008 02:58 AM, Chris Penn wrote: > When you say flawless, > What about Hibernate and Suspend? Are you using a AT&T or Verizon card? Hibernate and Suspend works, when using the "nv" video driver. The binary-only "nvidia" driver does cause the system to freeze upon resume (black screen). I don't use any of the cards above. Bye, LenZ - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer <lenz@...> -o) [ICQ: 160767607 \| Jabber: LenZGr@...] /\\ http://www.lenzg.org/ V_V -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIcdjISVDhKrJykfIRAiXuAJoCakR8fMdEa/QoICToAZiJOZUxvQCcDekM 8Bawj2HvZ0Vflt07B0X0swI= =eH3e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad