Of analogue interest, I think

[gg-8]

Can't believe the track "Timeless" is from thr 60s.  Is thats accurate?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7512072.stm


     

[Peter Forrest]

Wow, that is pretty astonishing.  What a brilliant woman.
Thanks for finding it.
Peter F

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>
> Can't believe the track "Timeless" is from thr 60s.  Is thats accurate?
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7512072.stm
>
>
>      
>

[Jason Proctor]

just when i thought DD couldn't get any cooler!

>Wow, that is pretty astonishing.  What a brilliant woman.
>Thanks for finding it.
>Peter F
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "GG" <umi4m@...>
>To: <analogue@...>
>Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 6:12 PM
>Subject: [AH] Of analogue interest, I think
>
>>
>>Can't believe the track "Timeless" is from thr 60s.  Is thats accurate?
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7512072.stm
>>
>>
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[Kylee Kennedy]

I absolutely love that woman. To find out she was making electronic dance
music in the 60's is mind blowing and it does sound very much like something
Warp would release. Thanks for the link. I'll be watching out for that
archive to go live. To think all her sounds were created before the
synthesizer was introduced to studios. I'm glad people will preserve her
legacy for later generations. Truly a pioneer.

Cheers,
Kylee Kennedy

[samplelab]

when ever i get hung up on making music or a bit of a creative block i pop
on delia or raymond scott etc and its like a slap round back of the head and
within 20 seconds i remember why i started making music  . . .. its just
that spirit of invention that you have to keep buzzing off . . .


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>
> Can't believe the track "Timeless" is from thr 60s.  Is thats accurate?
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7512072.stm
>
>
>

[Paul Perry]

In just about every field of human endeavor - but especially music - you
will find some neglected pioneer did it at least 20 years before anyone
else. True in music, art, computing and so on. Few pioneers are ever heard
of, let alone gain recognition.

The thing with electronic music,is that it is tightly connected to the
electronics of the day. When I try to design analog gear, I ask people what
kind of sound is in their head & then think, "how can I get this sound out".
What is equally strange is how people get stuck in a period, so that what
was once cutting edge becomes as fossilized as an archaeopteryx.

paul perry Melbourne Australia

[ross healy]

there are some amazing pioneers out there

early computer music - Charles Dodge, John Chowning, The Hub, John
Bischoff etc
Early electronic - Stockhausen, Elaine Radigue, Tod Dockstader, Pierre
Henry, Derbyshire, Bruce Clark, John Crocker, Warren Bert, Warner
Jepson,Douglas Lilburn, Raymond Scott etc etc  and about 60 other
artists from the first half of last century.



Paul Perry wrote:

> In just about every field of human endeavor - but especially music - you
> will find some neglected pioneer did it at least 20 years before anyone
> else. True in music, art, computing and so on. Few pioneers are ever heard
> of, let alone gain recognition.
>
> The thing with electronic music,is that it is tightly connected to the
> electronics of the day. When I try to design analog gear, I ask people what
> kind of sound is in their head & then think, "how can I get this sound out".
> What is equally strange is how people get stuck in a period, so that what
> was once cutting edge becomes as fossilized as an archaeopteryx.
>
> paul perry Melbourne Australia
>
>
>
>
>
>  

[Kylee Kennedy]

Edgard Varsese and Milton Babbit were two that opened my mind to electronic
composition that weren't on your list. But a couple others I'll have to look
up.

nice to see a thread about musicians and not prices of gear,
Kylee

>
> early computer music - Charles Dodge, John Chowning, The Hub, John Bischoff
> etc
> Early electronic - Stockhausen, Elaine Radigue, Tod Dockstader, Pierre
> Henry, Derbyshire, Bruce Clark, John Crocker, Warren Bert, Warner
> Jepson,Douglas Lilburn, Raymond Scott etc etc  and about 60 other artists
> from the first half of last century.

[Peter Tripodi]

After following that first link and poking around I came across "Love
Without Sound". I haven't heard that in years. Now I'm happy/sad. What a
brilliant person.

Yes. People & Music first, then Machines.


On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Kylee Kennedy <kmkennedy@...> wrote:

> Edgard Varsese and Milton Babbit were two that opened my mind to electronic
> composition that weren't on your list. But a couple others I'll have to
> look
> up.
>
> nice to see a thread about musicians and not prices of gear,
> Kylee
>
> >
> > early computer music - Charles Dodge, John Chowning, The Hub, John
> Bischoff
> > etc
> > Early electronic - Stockhausen, Elaine Radigue, Tod Dockstader, Pierre
> > Henry, Derbyshire, Bruce Clark, John Crocker, Warren Bert, Warner
> > Jepson,Douglas Lilburn, Raymond Scott etc etc  and about 60 other artists
> > from the first half of last century.
>

[Gavin Hughes]

Hello all

excited as I am about the discovery of lost Delia Derbyshire tapes I am even more thrilled by the following:

http://trunkrecords.com/turntable/john_baker.shtml

a definite unsung hero of the Radiophonic Workshop, John Baker is probably best known (to UK listers at least) as the composer of the 4 second "sting" at the end of kid's news show Newsround.  ("da-na da-na da-na-na-na!  boing!" - written on a piece of spring...).  

no synthesis as such but lots of highly imaginative use of tape edits and early flanging/phasing as well as killer ear for melody and a truly jazz sense of feel and timing.  which is not something you can say for a lot of the 50s/60s pioneers,  the delightful Delia included.  a lot in common with Raymond Scott & the Dutch tape set in that regard.

if you've seen his spot in "Alchemists Of Sound" doc you'll know just how great this guy was.  as sampled by Luke Vibert, Two Lone Swordsmen etcetera.

Gavin


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On 7/23/08 11:36 AM, "Gavin Hughes" <fancyspook@...> wrote:

>
> Hello all
>
> excited as I am about the discovery of lost Delia Derbyshire tapes I am even
> more thrilled by the following:
>
> http://trunkrecords.com/turntable/john_baker.shtml
>
> a definite unsung hero of the Radiophonic Workshop, John Baker is probably
> best known (to UK listers at least) as the composer of the 4 second "sting" at
> the end of kid's news show Newsround.  ("da-na da-na da-na-na-na!  boing!" -
> written on a piece of spring...).
>
> no synthesis as such but lots of highly imaginative use of tape edits and
> early flanging/phasing as well as killer ear for melody and a truly jazz sense
> of feel and timing.  which is not something you can say for a lot of the
> 50s/60s pioneers,  the delightful Delia included.  a lot in common with
> Raymond Scott & the Dutch tape set in that regard.
>
> if you've seen his spot in "Alchemists Of Sound" doc you'll know just how
> great this guy was.  as sampled by Luke Vibert, Two Lone Swordsmen etcetera.
>
> Gavin
>
>
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[Kylee Kennedy]

Some of the titles are quite intriguing. Did they name these tracks recently
or were they using the term Electro back in the 50-60s?
_Kylee Kennedy

[Gavin Hughes]

Hi

think most of those tracks are from a series of production music LPs on Southern
Recorded Music that Baker contributed to in the 70s.  could only ever afford 1 of
those - collecting library vinyl can be almost as pricey as synths...

"electro-" gets used a sort of shorthand for futuristic, sci-fi, moogy stuff on these
records so Baker might not even have named them himself.  earliest use I can think of
is The Electrosoniks (Tom Dissevelt & Dick Raaijmakers) and "Song Of The Second Moon" in
1957 - if you like Raymond Scott, you'll like that for sure.

nowadays, electro is a much abused term - parisians in leather jackets pretending to rock
moog modulars, teens with 1 and a half haircuts & a microkorg, or (in the UK at least)
peak-time, big-room house "choons" knocked out on soft-synth presets and
favoured by the likes of Tongy and Dangerous Dave Pearce.

I like mine with an 808, squelchy bass and metallic arpeggios - how do you eat yours?

Gavin

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Some of the titles are quite intriguing. Did they name these tracks recently
or were they using the term Electro back in the 50-60s?
_Kylee Kennedy


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[Gavin Hughes]

Hi

think most of those tracks are from a series of production music LPs on Southern
Recorded Music that Baker contributed to in the 70s.  could only ever afford 1 of
those - collecting library vinyl can be almost as pricey as synths...

"electro-" gets used a sort of shorthand for futuristic, sci-fi, moogy stuff on these
records so Baker might not even have named them himself.  earliest use I can think of
is The Electrosoniks (Tom Dissevelt & Dick Raaijmakers) and "Song Of The Second Moon" in
1957 - if you like Raymond Scott, you'll like that for sure.

nowadays, electro is a much abused term - parisians in leather jackets pretending to rock
moog modulars, teens with 1 and a half haircuts & a microkorg, or (in the UK at least)
peak-time, big-room house "choons" knocked out on soft-synth presets and
favoured by the likes of Tongy and Dangerous Dave Pearce.

I like mine with an 808, squelchy bass and metallic arpeggios - how do you eat yours?

Gavin

Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:12:47 -0700
To: analogue@...
From: "Kylee Kennedy"
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Some of the titles are quite intriguing. Did they name these tracks recently
or were they using the term Electro back in the 50-60s?
_Kylee Kennedy


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