OT...but photographic

[JOHN DUGGAN]

Hi all,
       I am VERY tempted by a "trade in" at my local friendly
photographic dealer. He has just taken in in part exchange a Mamiya RB
kit.
The kit consists of : A well used but sound RB67 body with waist level
finder.
An optically sound but cosmetically challenged 90mm f3.8 lens. This
lens has lots of paint missing on F stop ring etc.
A good condition 50mm f4.5 lens
A Very good/excellent 180mm lens.
220 back. another spare back. plus a Polaroid back.
Hoods, 3 focussing screens and other odds and ends.
NO g,tee, cost..what he gave for it £300.00/$600.
I do NOT need another camera BUT......
What do you all think?


Regards
  John Duggan,
     Wales, UK


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[Wiliam Wagenaar-2]

Hi John,

Although I have never used MF I can immagine this offer is tempting. Try
to talk the price down a little more and go for it if you like doing MF.


Cheers,

Wiliam

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>
>
>
> Hi all,
>        I am VERY tempted by a "trade in" at my local friendly
> photographic dealer. He has just taken in in part exchange a
> Mamiya RB kit. The kit consists of : A well used but sound
> RB67 body with waist level finder. An optically sound but
> cosmetically challenged 90mm f3.8 lens. This lens has lots of
> paint missing on F stop ring etc. A good condition 50mm f4.5
> lens A Very good/excellent 180mm lens. 220 back. another
> spare back. plus a Polaroid back. Hoods, 3 focussing screens
> and other odds and ends. NO g,tee, cost..what he gave for it
> £300.00/$600. I do NOT need another camera BUT...... What do
> you all think?
>
>
> Regards
>   John Duggan,
>      Wales, UK
>
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[Ian Nichols]

2008/7/12 JOHN DUGGAN <john.duggan10@...>:
>
> Hi all,
>       I am VERY tempted by a "trade in" at my local friendly
> photographic dealer. He has just taken in in part exchange a Mamiya RB
> kit.

> What do you all think?

Hmm, I think you should consider my Pentax 6x7 kit ;)

But seriously, if you are tempted, it's on Ebay right now, with no
bids yet, so I'd consider ending them early for a sensible offer.  I
don't expect to get the BINs for the lenses.

Items 110269023916, 110268988701 and 110269002952

Bigger pictures of everything in my fotopic gallery (linked in the
auctions).  Taken with an E-330 and 35/3.5 macro.

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[chucknorcutt]

Seems to compare reasonably well with RB prices at keh.com.  But from
your description of the 90mm lens it sounds like KEH "UGly" which sells
for USD 25.  KEH BGN grade, however, goes for $105.  Maybe that's a
bargaining point.

KEH seems to have nearly 30 bodies or body + lens kits in stock + about
50 lenses.
<http://www.keh.com/OnLineStore/ProductList.aspx?Mode=searchproducts&item=80&ActivateTOC2=false&ID=&BC=&BCC=&CC=&CCC=&BCL=&GBC=&GCC=&KW=Mamiya%20RB67%20SLR>

Chuck Norcutt


JOHN DUGGAN wrote:

> Hi all,
>        I am VERY tempted by a "trade in" at my local friendly
> photographic dealer. He has just taken in in part exchange a Mamiya RB
> kit.
> The kit consists of : A well used but sound RB67 body with waist level
> finder.
> An optically sound but cosmetically challenged 90mm f3.8 lens. This
> lens has lots of paint missing on F stop ring etc.
> A good condition 50mm f4.5 lens
> A Very good/excellent 180mm lens.
> 220 back. another spare back. plus a Polaroid back.
> Hoods, 3 focussing screens and other odds and ends.
> NO g,tee, cost..what he gave for it £300.00/$600.
> I do NOT need another camera BUT......
> What do you all think?
>
>
> Regards
>   John Duggan,
>      Wales, UK
>
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[chucknorcutt]

Well, that didn't work so well.  Try this one instead.
<http://www.keh.com/OnLineStore/ProductList.aspx?Mode=searchproducts&item=0&ActivateTOC2=false&ID=&Size=&BC=&BCC=&CC=&CCC=&BCL=&GBC=&GCC=&KW=mamiya%20rb67>

Chuck Norcutt


Chuck Norcutt wrote:

> Seems to compare reasonably well with RB prices at keh.com.  But from
> your description of the 90mm lens it sounds like KEH "UGly" which sells
> for USD 25.  KEH BGN grade, however, goes for $105.  Maybe that's a
> bargaining point.
>
> KEH seems to have nearly 30 bodies or body + lens kits in stock + about
> 50 lenses.
> <http://www.keh.com/OnLineStore/ProductList.aspx?Mode=searchproducts&item=80&ActivateTOC2=false&ID=&BC=&BCC=&CC=&CCC=&BCL=&GBC=&GCC=&KW=Mamiya%20RB67%20SLR>
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> JOHN DUGGAN wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>        I am VERY tempted by a "trade in" at my local friendly
>> photographic dealer. He has just taken in in part exchange a Mamiya RB
>> kit.
>> The kit consists of : A well used but sound RB67 body with waist level
>> finder.
>> An optically sound but cosmetically challenged 90mm f3.8 lens. This
>> lens has lots of paint missing on F stop ring etc.
>> A good condition 50mm f4.5 lens
>> A Very good/excellent 180mm lens.
>> 220 back. another spare back. plus a Polaroid back.
>> Hoods, 3 focussing screens and other odds and ends.
>> NO g,tee, cost..what he gave for it £300.00/$600.
>> I do NOT need another camera BUT......
>> What do you all think?
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>   John Duggan,
>>      Wales, UK
>>
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[Wayne Harridge]

I started buying a bit of RB67 gear a few years back.  The price seems
reasonable as long as everything works ok.  Can you borrow and test it
before handing over the cash ?  I wouldn't worry too much about the cosmetic
condition, these machines were mainly used by working pros who just treated
them as tools and expected them to continue working.  The 50/90/180
combination is the "standard" kit and will probably cover all your needs.
You might want to investigate 120 backs (or the 6x8 120/220 motorised back
!) as this opens up a wider range of film stock.  Once you see your first
roll of 'chromes on a light box you'll be convinced you did the right thing.

...Wayne

>
> Hi all,
>        I am VERY tempted by a "trade in" at my local friendly
> photographic dealer. He has just taken in in part exchange a
> Mamiya RB kit. The kit consists of : A well used but sound
> RB67 body with waist level finder. An optically sound but
> cosmetically challenged 90mm f3.8 lens. This lens has lots of
> paint missing on F stop ring etc. A good condition 50mm f4.5
> lens A Very good/excellent 180mm lens. 220 back. another
> spare back. plus a Polaroid back. Hoods, 3 focussing screens
> and other odds and ends. NO g,tee, cost..what he gave for it
> £300.00/$600. I do NOT need another camera BUT...... What do
> you all think?
>

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[Bob Docherty]

John,
 Are you serious? Do you have any idea who you are asking :)
Go for it!

Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "JOHN DUGGAN" <john.duggan10@...>
> I do NOT need another camera BUT......
> What do you all think?
>
>
> Regards
>  John Duggan,


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[Sue Pearce]

> I started buying a bit of RB67 gear a few years back.  The price seems
> reasonable as long as everything works ok.  

I would be wary. We used RB's at the airplane factory in the seventies, and the lenses would flare in a darkened room.

Bill Pearce

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[Chris Crawford]

Mamiya still makes lenses for the RB, there have been at least 3 different
generations of RB lenses and the 70's would have been the earliest. I don't
have an RB but I have a 645 Super with 1990's era Mamiya lenses and they
virtually never flare. I suspect that newer RB lenses would be similar.


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Chris Crawford
Photography & Graphic Design
Fort Wayne, Indiana

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On 7/12/08 9:56 PM, "bs.pearce@..." <bs.pearce@...> wrote:

>
>
>> I started buying a bit of RB67 gear a few years back.  The price seems
>> reasonable as long as everything works ok.
>
> I would be wary. We used RB's at the airplane factory in the seventies, and
> the lenses would flare in a darkened room.
>
> Bill Pearce
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[Wayne Harridge]

>
> Mamiya still makes lenses for the RB, there have been at
> least 3 different generations of RB lenses and the 70's would
> have been the earliest. I don't have an RB but I have a 645
> Super with 1990's era Mamiya lenses and they virtually never
> flare. I suspect that newer RB lenses would be similar.
>

I have mainly the "C" lenses and haven't noticed the flare to be worse than
any other lenses I use.  The "C" lenses are multicoated and the prior series
were single coated, the newer KL series are reputed to be marginally better
optically.

You should be using the appropriate Mamiya hoods with any of these lenses or
you can use the compendium style hood which is adjustable to different focal
lengths.

...Wayne



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[Sue Pearce]

We used the seventies versions, as it was, of course, in the seventies. I understand that things improved, especially with the RZ.

Bill Pearce
---- Chris Crawford <chris@...> wrote:

> Mamiya still makes lenses for the RB, there have been at least 3 different
> generations of RB lenses and the 70's would have been the earliest. I don't
> have an RB but I have a 645 Super with 1990's era Mamiya lenses and they
> virtually never flare. I suspect that newer RB lenses would be similar.
>
>
> --
> Chris Crawford
> Photography & Graphic Design
> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>
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>
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>
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>
>
> On 7/12/08 9:56 PM, "bs.pearce@..." <bs.pearce@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >> I started buying a bit of RB67 gear a few years back.  The price seems
> >> reasonable as long as everything works ok.
> >
> > I would be wary. We used RB's at the airplane factory in the seventies, and
> > the lenses would flare in a darkened room.
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> > Bill Pearce
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[Jan Steinman]

> From: JOHN DUGGAN <john.duggan10@...>
>
>       I am VERY tempted by a "trade in" at my local friendly
> photographic dealer. He has just taken in in part exchange a Mamiya RB
> kit...
> I do NOT need another camera BUT......
> What do you all think?


MF combines all the disadvantages of LF (weight) and 35mm (neg too  
small), IMHO, without giving you lens motions, which (again, IMHO) is  
worth the weight of LF.

If you're just looking for a new toy that you'll get tired of after a  
few rolls, go for it. But if you are looking for an adventure that  
will keep you scratching your head and trying new things, go LF.

(I'm still trying to figure out how to economically do lens motions  
with digital. My Lensbaby is cute and fun, but severely limited in  
that respect.)

:::: We have squandered our planet's resources, including air and  
water, as though there were no tomorrow, so now there isn't going to  
be one. -- Kurt Vonnegut ::::
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[John Hudson]

Try looking here:

www.Holownia.com

for a photographer who uses a 7" x 17" large format camera [a Folmer &
Schwing banquet camera made in Rochester, NY between 1915 and 1926]

Holownia is a professor and head of thedepartment of fine arts at Mount
Allison University, Sackville, New Brunswick, Canada.

He has published three books of his photos. Each photo is only marginally
smaller than the underlying negative. All are in black and white. I have all
three.

He autographed his latest one for me yesterday.

jh


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Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 12:31 PM
Subject: [OM] Re: OT...but photographic

>
>> From: JOHN DUGGAN <john.duggan10@...>
>>
>>       I am VERY tempted by a "trade in" at my local friendly
>> photographic dealer. He has just taken in in part exchange a Mamiya RB
>> kit...
>> I do NOT need another camera BUT......
>> What do you all think?
>
>
> MF combines all the disadvantages of LF (weight) and 35mm (neg too
> small), IMHO, without giving you lens motions, which (again, IMHO) is
> worth the weight of LF.
>
> If you're just looking for a new toy that you'll get tired of after a
> few rolls, go for it. But if you are looking for an adventure that
> will keep you scratching your head and trying new things, go LF.
>
> (I'm still trying to figure out how to economically do lens motions
> with digital. My Lensbaby is cute and fun, but severely limited in
> that respect.)
>
> :::: We have squandered our planet's resources, including air and
> water, as though there were no tomorrow, so now there isn't going to
> be one. -- Kurt Vonnegut ::::
> :::: Jan Steinman http://www.EcoReality.org ::::
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[Andrew Fildes]

Oh nice. I liked the shots of the small pond in different light and  
weather.
Reminds that you don't need to go far. I feel the need for a series.
Does the Folmer and Schwing swing, I wondered - doesn't look like it.
So I found this - <http://www.clickondavid.com/folmerschwing.html>
Pretty. Apparently the 12x20 is more impressive.
Where would you get filum for it?!
What would a sheet of colour film be worth?
Strewth.
Andrew Fildes
afildes@...



On 14/07/2008, at 5:53 AM, John Hudson wrote:

>
>
> Try looking here:
>
> www.Holownia.com
>
> for a photographer who uses a 7" x 17" large format camera [a Folmer &
> Schwing banquet camera made in Rochester, NY between 1915 and 1926]
>
> Holownia is a professor and head of thedepartment of fine arts at  
> Mount
> Allison University, Sackville, New Brunswick, Canada.
>
> He has published three books of his photos. Each photo is only  
> marginally
> smaller than the underlying negative. All are in black and white. I  
> have all
> three.
>
> He autographed his latest one for me yesterday.
>
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