Nova Classics

[Al-15]

Thanks Bill for the explanation. It would seem that most on this site would not be a "registered importer" and so we would be at the mercy of the overseas seller to follow-through with any commitment to ship a machine that would be acceptable to U.S. Customs/U.S.DOT. Now the question arises: Does Nova Classics have a track-record on its pledge/assurance that it ships only such machines that will be accepted as importable without expensive/extensive/impossible modifications?

 Responses from credible sources would be appreciated. In this case credible means from a frequent poster of messages and not a "hand-puppet" shill for Nova Classics.

 In my discussion with them that took place over a year ago, I was given vague assurances that their machines would be acceptable to U.S.DOT and a refusal by them to identify U.S. based customers who could provide references for their service.


     

[ace.cafe]

Well, I don't know how others feel about it, but after going to the
Nova Classics website, I don't feel that the prices are cheap enough
to warrant any anxiety over a grey market type purchase.
Their 500 Bullets are about $3500 or more for a "like new refurb" from
India.
You could get a practically new low-mileage 500 Bullet anywhere for
about that amount.
I just don't see the attraction.
Maybe back 4 years ago when they were selling them for $1500, it might
have been worth a chance on it.
But, for $3500, they can keep them. I'd take a low-mile 2005 5-speed
like new, with US paperwork for that amount, and you can easily find
bikes like that without resorting to grey market.
It would have to be alot cheaper than $3500 for me to take a chance on
 a gray market refurb.

My 2 cents.

Ace

--- In royalenfield@..., Al <k3eax@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill for the explanation. It would seem that most on this
site would not be a "registered importer" and so we would be at the
mercy of the overseas seller to follow-through with any commitment to
ship a machine that would be acceptable to U.S. Customs/U.S.DOT. Now
the question arises: Does Nova Classics have a track-record on its
pledge/assurance that it ships only such machines that will be
accepted as importable without expensive/extensive/impossible
modifications?
>
>  Responses from credible sources would be appreciated. In this case
credible means from a frequent poster of messages and not a
"hand-puppet" shill for Nova Classics.
>
>  In my discussion with them that took place over a year ago, I was
given vague assurances that their machines would be acceptable to
U.S.DOT and a refusal by them to identify U.S. based customers who
could provide references for their service.
>

[Lawrence-28]

Ace hit the nail just right (damit Ace you did it again!) in that it
doesn't make any sense at all.  I'm going to chime in here because I
hate the shill work being done and it is time to speak up. They
attacked me personally on the CMW site (their comments deleted by
Kevin), and Gary of Nova wrote me a letter saying I had misinformed (I
was actually very clear). I bought my T-bird from Nova and it was a
slow tortuous road indeed.  The bike arrived seven months later from
India when I had been led to believe the company was in Arkansas. It
got waylaid in Singapore (partly my fault) and stopped here in Tonga
because a bill hadn't been paid. It was damaged to the front end,
instrument cluster torn up, speedometer messed up, hole in the left
side primary cover (patched), dent in the front fender, foot pegs
stress weakened so that they fell off, tank dented (minor), roughly
crated with small damage to carb manifold since it was pushed up.
Gary at Nova sent me parts I requested so I can't fault him on that,
but I had been told that it would be totally refurbished and it
wasn't.  He did send some spares including a spare battery and tyres.
 I can't complain too much over what I got for what I paid ($2300 U.S.
delivered) but would gladly have paid more to have a properly set up
bike.  Gary sent me photos of the bike before it left India, very
shaky, and now that I have a digital, I see how easy it is these days
to take good photos.  But even in the shaky photos sent, you can see
that the damage was there when they crated it.

Then I saw the ebay ad for a new Machismo that had been Customs seized
and I knew if I didn't bid, I would kick myself later, so I bid and
was the only bidder, so now have that new beauty to ride. It had to
leave the U.S. in bond and I paid twice the cost of the bike for
shipment, then paid additional for duty, but I am stoked to have it.
Total paid on the Machismo was $2800 U.S. landed here in Vava'u. The
t-bird I thought of converting into a dirt bike, but then decided my
real need in the future would be a trike (rickshaw) for local errands
with my wife.  So it is being converted.  No real regrets, but no
recommendation either.  

Those wishing to buy a bike from India can get a good deal on one but
there will be real import issues, which the Machismo I bought gives
testimony to. A new bike in India costs half the price, but then there
is shipping and the doubts about customs.

Why can't i always be right like you are ACE?  No, I like your posts
very, very much!!! (damit)

Lawrence
Tonga

cceptable to U.S. Customs/U.S.DOT. Now

> the question arises: Does Nova Classics have a track-record on its
> pledge/assurance that it ships only such machines that will be
> accepted as importable without expensive/extensive/impossible
> modifications?
> >
> >  Responses from credible sources would be appreciated. In this case
> credible means from a frequent poster of messages and not a
> "hand-puppet" shill for Nova Classics.
> >
> >  In my discussion with them that took place over a year ago, I was
> given vague assurances that their machines would be acceptable to
> U.S.DOT and a refusal by them to identify U.S. based customers who
> could provide references for their service.
> >
>

[stephen.hemsley]

I know you're in the wrong part of the world (!) but this fellow sells refurbished bikes in the UK and from what I have seen they are pretty good.  I've no idea how much duty will be required, but you may find that he can almost match your local prices even with duty.  I've bought loads of stuff off him, and I know he delivers what I ask for.  His name is Henry Price, the company address is www.pricepartmotorcycles.co.uk - there is even a clubby forum that anyone can join.  He is quite sympathetic towards oil burners too - he offers conversion kits and converted bikes. Oh, and he rides REs in all weathers, so he is not just another glitzy salesman.

You may find he also talks about pounds and miles and things. I understand him even though it isn't all to a simple base of 10  - Lawrence, if you get too confused again we can help you!


--
Steve

---- Lawrence <abjlaw1@...> wrote:

> Ace hit the nail just right (damit Ace you did it again!) in that it
> doesn't make any sense at all.  I'm going to chime in here because I
> hate the shill work being done and it is time to speak up. They
> attacked me personally on the CMW site (their comments deleted by
> Kevin), and Gary of Nova wrote me a letter saying I had misinformed (I
> was actually very clear). I bought my T-bird from Nova and it was a
> slow tortuous road indeed.  The bike arrived seven months later from
> India when I had been led to believe the company was in Arkansas. It
> got waylaid in Singapore (partly my fault) and stopped here in Tonga
> because a bill hadn't been paid. It was damaged to the front end,
> instrument cluster torn up, speedometer messed up, hole in the left
> side primary cover (patched), dent in the front fender, foot pegs
> stress weakened so that they fell off, tank dented (minor), roughly
> crated with small damage to carb manifold since it was pushed up.
> Gary at Nova sent me parts I requested so I can't fault him on that,
> but I had been told that it would be totally refurbished and it
> wasn't.  He did send some spares including a spare battery and tyres.
>  I can't complain too much over what I got for what I paid ($2300 U.S.
> delivered) but would gladly have paid more to have a properly set up
> bike.  Gary sent me photos of the bike before it left India, very
> shaky, and now that I have a digital, I see how easy it is these days
> to take good photos.  But even in the shaky photos sent, you can see
> that the damage was there when they crated it.
>
> Then I saw the ebay ad for a new Machismo that had been Customs seized
> and I knew if I didn't bid, I would kick myself later, so I bid and
> was the only bidder, so now have that new beauty to ride. It had to
> leave the U.S. in bond and I paid twice the cost of the bike for
> shipment, then paid additional for duty, but I am stoked to have it.
> Total paid on the Machismo was $2800 U.S. landed here in Vava'u. The
> t-bird I thought of converting into a dirt bike, but then decided my
> real need in the future would be a trike (rickshaw) for local errands
> with my wife.  So it is being converted.  No real regrets, but no
> recommendation either.  
>
> Those wishing to buy a bike from India can get a good deal on one but
> there will be real import issues, which the Machismo I bought gives
> testimony to. A new bike in India costs half the price, but then there
> is shipping and the doubts about customs.
>
> Why can't i always be right like you are ACE?  No, I like your posts
> very, very much!!! (damit)
>
> Lawrence
> Tonga
>
> cceptable to U.S. Customs/U.S.DOT. Now
> > the question arises: Does Nova Classics have a track-record on its
> > pledge/assurance that it ships only such machines that will be
> > accepted as importable without expensive/extensive/impossible
> > modifications?
> > >
> > >  Responses from credible sources would be appreciated. In this case
> > credible means from a frequent poster of messages and not a
> > "hand-puppet" shill for Nova Classics.
> > >
> > >  In my discussion with them that took place over a year ago, I was
> > given vague assurances that their machines would be acceptable to
> > U.S.DOT and a refusal by them to identify U.S. based customers who
> > could provide references for their service.
> > >
> >
>
>

[Al-15]

 Steve, what's wrong in using pound, miles, and the like? Certainly for
an RE rider, these are the preferred measures. Imperial for ever!

[Paul-365]

Hey Bill, Albert, Lawrence - This is not a platform for abusing or
competition bashing, you are using wrong presumptions and accusing
some company on a public group. You have to stop this. I am saying
this caue i am a customer of this company for looong time and the
guys have been very nice to me, so syop it and do something better.

MODERATOR ARE YOU LISTENING

--- In royalenfield@..., Al <k3eax@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill for the explanation. It would seem that most on this
site would not be a "registered importer" and so we would be at the
mercy of the overseas seller to follow-through with any commitment
to ship a machine that would be acceptable to U.S. Customs/U.S.DOT.
Now the question arises: Does Nova Classics have a track-record on
its pledge/assurance that it ships only such machines that will be
accepted as importable without expensive/extensive/impossible
modifications?
>
>  Responses from credible sources would be appreciated. In this
case credible means from a frequent poster of messages and not
a "hand-puppet" shill for Nova Classics.
>
>  In my discussion with them that took place over a year ago, I was
given vague assurances that their machines would be acceptable to
U.S.DOT and a refusal by them to identify U.S. based customers who
could provide references for their service.
>

[cjayheff]

--- In royalenfield@..., "Paul" <bbchops9990@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Bill, Albert, Lawrence - This is not a platform for abusing or
> competition bashing, you are using wrong presumptions and accusing
> some company on a public group. You have to stop this. I am saying
> this caue i am a customer of this company for looong time and the
> guys have been very nice to me, so syop it and do something better.
>
> MODERATOR ARE YOU LISTENING

Public companies are open to public critique. It is good to hear from
both satisfied and dissatisfied customers. Forums like this one are the
best source of information as to customer satisfaction and I sure hope
it does not start to get "moderated" out.

I got burnt really bad (though not as bad as some) by a fellow that
peddles Triumph parts. Had I did a search of the Triumph user groups
before hand (where he is a well know crook) I would have saved myself a
lot of grief. Lesson learned.

CJay

[karleustace72]

Seriously NOW stop spamming in here. Do u guys really own Enfields
or are here for fun.



--- In royalenfield@..., "Paul" <bbchops9990@...> wrote:

>
> Hey Bill, Albert, Lawrence - This is not a platform for abusing or
> competition bashing, you are using wrong presumptions and accusing
> some company on a public group. You have to stop this. I am saying
> this caue i am a customer of this company for looong time and the
> guys have been very nice to me, so syop it and do something better.
>
> MODERATOR ARE YOU LISTENING
>
> --- In royalenfield@..., Al <k3eax@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Bill for the explanation. It would seem that most on this
> site would not be a "registered importer" and so we would be at

the
> mercy of the overseas seller to follow-through with any commitment
> to ship a machine that would be acceptable to U.S.
Customs/U.S.DOT.

> Now the question arises: Does Nova Classics have a track-record on
> its pledge/assurance that it ships only such machines that will be
> accepted as importable without expensive/extensive/impossible
> modifications?
> >
> >  Responses from credible sources would be appreciated. In this
> case credible means from a frequent poster of messages and not
> a "hand-puppet" shill for Nova Classics.
> >
> >  In my discussion with them that took place over a year ago, I

was
> given vague assurances that their machines would be acceptable to
> U.S.DOT and a refusal by them to identify U.S. based customers who
> could provide references for their service.
> >
>

[Paul-365]

Cjay, you are absolutly right, all i m trying to say here is that
without basis you must not abuse and frame a legit biz as fake
without even being a customer, thats absurd and thats what I am all
against about, every biz has satisfied and even angry- as-hell
customers, one shud be discussing their good or bad expereinces with
their products not how/ifs/buts of the presumed operations, this is
a clse knot community and small businesses face the max heat due to
these guys.hope u understand what I m saying.

paul

--- In royalenfield@..., "cjayheff" <cjayheff@...> wrote:
>
> --- In royalenfield@..., "Paul" <bbchops9990@> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Bill, Albert, Lawrence - This is not a platform for abusing
or
> > competition bashing, you are using wrong presumptions and
accusing
> > some company on a public group. You have to stop this. I am
saying
> > this caue i am a customer of this company for looong time and
the
> > guys have been very nice to me, so syop it and do something
better.
> >
> > MODERATOR ARE YOU LISTENING
>
> Public companies are open to public critique. It is good to hear
from
> both satisfied and dissatisfied customers. Forums like this one
are the
> best source of information as to customer satisfaction and I sure
hope
> it does not start to get "moderated" out.
>
> I got burnt really bad (though not as bad as some) by a fellow
that
> peddles Triumph parts. Had I did a search of the Triumph user
groups
> before hand (where he is a well know crook) I would have saved
myself a
> lot of grief. Lesson learned.
>
> CJay
>

[karleustace72]

Hey Cjay / Paul , dont wanted it this way but i am a customer too
and we got our enfields door delivered to us, no hassles ---- i
think thats as fair as it can get ...................................
so no more personal attacks, has anyone got any news about the fan
shaped alloy rims for enfield???????????????????????????

Karl


--- In royalenfield@..., "cjayheff" <cjayheff@...> wrote:
>
> --- In royalenfield@..., "Paul" <bbchops9990@> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Bill, Albert, Lawrence - This is not a platform for abusing
or
> > competition bashing, you are using wrong presumptions and
accusing
> > some company on a public group. You have to stop this. I am
saying
> > this caue i am a customer of this company for looong time and
the
> > guys have been very nice to me, so syop it and do something
better.
> >
> > MODERATOR ARE YOU LISTENING
>
> Public companies are open to public critique. It is good to hear
from
> both satisfied and dissatisfied customers. Forums like this one
are the
> best source of information as to customer satisfaction and I sure
hope
> it does not start to get "moderated" out.
>
> I got burnt really bad (though not as bad as some) by a fellow
that
> peddles Triumph parts. Had I did a search of the Triumph user
groups
> before hand (where he is a well know crook) I would have saved
myself a
> lot of grief. Lesson learned.
>
> CJay
>

[cjayheff]

--- In royalenfield@..., "Paul" <bbchops9990@...> wrote:

>
> Cjay, you are absolutly right, all i m trying to say here is that
> without basis you must not abuse and frame a legit biz as fake
> without even being a customer, thats absurd and thats what I am all
> against about, every biz has satisfied and even angry- as-hell
> customers, one shud be discussing their good or bad expereinces with
> their products not how/ifs/buts of the presumed operations, this is
> a clse knot community and small businesses face the max heat due to
> these guys.hope u understand what I m saying.
>
> paul

Paul,

Agreed.

CJay

[Chris Janes]

--- In royalenfield@..., "cjayheff" <cjayheff@...> wrote:
> I got burnt really bad (though not as bad as some) by a fellow that
> peddles Triumph parts. Had I did a search of the Triumph user groups
> before hand (where he is a well know crook) I would have saved myself
> a lot of grief. Lesson learned.
 
Ah, it sounds like you met Marshall from Chicago eh?
CJ

[ace.cafe]

Karl,
I have seen one pair of one-piece alloy wheels for the Bullet, that
was listed on a closeout at CMW a few years ago.
I don't know if you'd call them "fan shaped", but they had 3 curved
spokes and were alloy. They might be considered "fan shaped".
I inquired and was told they were heavier than the stock wire wheels.
I think they sold at about $100 for the pair.
I believe that they came from India, so there may be some vendor for
them over there somewhere.
That's all I know about one-piece alloy wheels for the Bullet.

Ace


--- In royalenfield@..., "karleustace72"
<karleustace72@...> wrote:

>
> Hey Cjay / Paul , dont wanted it this way but i am a customer too
> and we got our enfields door delivered to us, no hassles ---- i
> think thats as fair as it can get ...................................
> so no more personal attacks, has anyone got any news about the fan
> shaped alloy rims for enfield???????????????????????????
>
> Karl
>
>
> --- In royalenfield@..., "cjayheff" <cjayheff@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In royalenfield@..., "Paul" <bbchops9990@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Bill, Albert, Lawrence - This is not a platform for abusing
> or
> > > competition bashing, you are using wrong presumptions and
> accusing
> > > some company on a public group. You have to stop this. I am
> saying
> > > this caue i am a customer of this company for looong time and
> the
> > > guys have been very nice to me, so syop it and do something
> better.
> > >
> > > MODERATOR ARE YOU LISTENING
> >
> > Public companies are open to public critique. It is good to hear
> from
> > both satisfied and dissatisfied customers. Forums like this one
> are the
> > best source of information as to customer satisfaction and I sure
> hope
> > it does not start to get "moderated" out.
> >
> > I got burnt really bad (though not as bad as some) by a fellow
> that
> > peddles Triumph parts. Had I did a search of the Triumph user
> groups
> > before hand (where he is a well know crook) I would have saved
> myself a
> > lot of grief. Lesson learned.
> >
> > CJay
> >
>

[cjayheff]

--- In royalenfield@..., "Chris Janes" <cjanes@...> wrote:
>
> --- In royalenfield@..., "cjayheff" <cjayheff@> wrote:
> > I got burnt really bad (though not as bad as some) by a fellow that
> > peddles Triumph parts. Had I did a search of the Triumph user
groups
> > before hand (where he is a well know crook) I would have saved
myself
> > a lot of grief. Lesson learned.
>  
> Ah, it sounds like you met Marshall from Chicago eh?
> CJ
>

Yep.

CJay

[Lawrence-28]

Lawrence here, and I did not "abuse" anyone - I just told the straight
truth about how a damaged bike came seven months after being ordered
sent by Nova Classics - seems to me they have been abusing themselves
lately and might do better by flying straight.  As far as I know, they
still run a phony front office in Arkansas.  Truth is truth.  

CJay - I too would have been put right by doing a one hour search on
the net - lesson learned.

Bill, really great explanation you have given and clear as a bell.

Thanks,

Lawrence
Tonga


--- In royalenfield@..., "Paul" <bbchops9990@...> wrote:

>
> Hey Bill, Albert, Lawrence - This is not a platform for abusing or
> competition bashing, you are using wrong presumptions and accusing
> some company on a public group. You have to stop this. I am saying
> this caue i am a customer of this company for looong time and the
> guys have been very nice to me, so syop it and do something better.
>
> MODERATOR ARE YOU LISTENING
>
> --- In royalenfield@..., Al <k3eax@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Bill for the explanation. It would seem that most on this
> site would not be a "registered importer" and so we would be at the
> mercy of the overseas seller to follow-through with any commitment
> to ship a machine that would be acceptable to U.S. Customs/U.S.DOT.
> Now the question arises: Does Nova Classics have a track-record on
> its pledge/assurance that it ships only such machines that will be
> accepted as importable without expensive/extensive/impossible
> modifications?
> >
> >  Responses from credible sources would be appreciated. In this
> case credible means from a frequent poster of messages and not
> a "hand-puppet" shill for Nova Classics.
> >
> >  In my discussion with them that took place over a year ago, I was
> given vague assurances that their machines would be acceptable to
> U.S.DOT and a refusal by them to identify U.S. based customers who
> could provide references for their service.
> >
>

[deejay_nh]

I did a satellite image search for the Arkansas address and it's
clearly just an apartment building.


--- In royalenfield@..., "Lawrence" <abjlaw1@...> wrote:
>
> As far as I know, they
> still run a phony front office in Arkansas.  Truth is truth.

[Lawrence-28]

I don't think the Arkansas address exists, or else it is just a letter
drop.  I got a phone number from Gary of Nova Classics that was in
Florida - don't know what is going on. The main reason I bought from
them is I thought they were in the U.S. and, having read the
testimonials on their site, they were indicating very short delivery
times.  My bike took two months to be shipped and, after shipment,
five more months to get here.  My original intention was to have it
shipped from Arkansas to my shipping person in San Francisco, and then
down here, a month and a half max.

Odd thing is all the damage they are doing to themselves through all
this recent posting activity.  I would have just kept quiet if they
had.  It is never my intention to air dirty linen in public.

Lawrence
Tonga

--- In royalenfield@..., "deejay_nh" <deejay_nh@...> wrote:

>
> I did a satellite image search for the Arkansas address and it's
> clearly just an apartment building.
>
>
> --- In royalenfield@..., "Lawrence" <abjlaw1@> wrote:
> >
> > As far as I know, they
> > still run a phony front office in Arkansas.  Truth is truth.
>