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New JMask Beta Build
by Steven Yi
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Hi All,
I've updated the build at: http://www.kunstmusik.com/blue_0.123.0_beta.zip http://www.kunstmusik.com/blue_0.123.0_beta_installer.jar This one now hides the table for a parameter if you're not using it and has a dropdown to select between using a constant or table. If constant, the spinner widget will show, otherwise the table editor. This should help keep the UI cleaner and tighter. I haven't had a chance to do too much on blue this week but did get to this today; I will look at other tasks tomorrow and on. Feedback very welcome! Thanks! steven ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone _______________________________________________ Bluemusic-users mailing list Bluemusic-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users |
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Re: New JMask Beta Build
by menno
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Hello Steven,
it's getting better all the time :) But maybe i have found an error? I choose for p2 'probability' and then 'mask' I can map the value but i leave it at 0. Then there is High Value and Low Value. There's the problem. i can't change the 'constant high value' nor the 'constant low value' to .5 and .1. When entering a '.' and wanting to change the other value the dot disappears. I can not set the desired constant values. Switching to 'high value (table) and giving a constant value works, i can get values between .1 and .5 with the rescaling. Menno |
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Re: New JMask Beta Build
by Jan Jacob Hofmann
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Dear Steven,
I installed the new version today and think it is a real advantage. Am 11.05.2008 um 02:09 schrieb Steven Yi:
That's nice!!!
It really does! Thanks a lot! from Jan Jacob sound | movement | object | space sonic architecture | site: http://www.sonicarchitecture.de spatial electronic composition | 2nd order ambisonic music ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone _______________________________________________ Bluemusic-users mailing list Bluemusic-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users |
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Re: New JMask Beta Build
by Steven Yi
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Hi Menno,
This is quite strange, I have tested things here and it is working with the mask editor. I am wondering however if it is a locale problem; what is the language setting for your computer and is it using numbers like: 1.000.000,00 or 1,000,000.00 ? Also, what do you see if you use the up and down arrows on the spinner widget component for the high value (constant) and low value (constant)? Thanks! steven On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 5:28 AM, menno <nabob_cd@...> wrote: > > Hello Steven, > > it's getting better all the time :) > > But maybe i have found an error? > I choose for p2 'probability' and then 'mask' > I can map the value but i leave it at 0. > Then there is High Value and Low Value. There's the problem. i can't change > the 'constant high value' nor the 'constant low value' to .5 and .1. When > entering a '.' and wanting to change the other value the dot disappears. I > can not set the desired constant values. > Switching to 'high value (table) and giving a constant value works, i can > get values between .1 and .5 with the rescaling. > > Menno > > ----- > http://home.hccnet.nl/mag.knevel/ > http://www.jamendo.com/de/album/6789/ > http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/7428/ > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/New-JMask-Beta-Build-tp17168785p17170534.html > Sent from the Csound - Blue - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > _______________________________________________ > Bluemusic-users mailing list > Bluemusic-users@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone _______________________________________________ Bluemusic-users mailing list Bluemusic-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users |
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Re: New JMask Beta Build
by Steven Yi
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Thanks Jan Jacob and Menno for all of your replies about interface
suggestions and bugs! I think because of them that the interfaces has gotten to be a lot more useful! I think at this point, the UI is in good shape, and I only want to do the adding of buttons to show popups instead of right-click on the top bar and the parameter side panels to make those options not "hidden". After that I think the focus will move to test for bugs in both the interface (values are set correctly and showing correctly) and in processing (generated output is correct) and documentation. With those done and adding documentation for the work on single-line and multi-line modes, I think it'd be worth doing a new release. After that, I think it would be good to look at building a CMask -> JMask parser/importer, then address some other issues about automation handling (copy/paste/etc.) that were raised a while back, then back to the big requests list that we all put together. =) Thanks all! steven On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Jan Jacob Hofmann <jjh@...> wrote: > Dear Steven, > I installed the new version today and think it is a real advantage. > > > Am 11.05.2008 um 02:09 schrieb Steven Yi: > > This one now hides the table for a parameter if you're not using it > > That's nice!!! > > and has a dropdown to select between using a constant or table. If > constant, the spinner widget will show, otherwise the table editor. > This should help keep the UI cleaner and tighter. > > It really does! > > Thanks a lot! > from > Jan Jacob > > > > sound | movement | object | > space > > sonic architecture | site: http://www.sonicarchitecture.de > > spatial electronic composition | 2nd order ambisonic music > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > _______________________________________________ > Bluemusic-users mailing list > Bluemusic-users@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone _______________________________________________ Bluemusic-users mailing list Bluemusic-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users |
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Re: New JMask Beta Build
by Atte
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Steven Yi wrote:
> ...then back to > the big requests list that we all put together. =) :-) -- peace, love & harmony Atte http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone _______________________________________________ Bluemusic-users mailing list Bluemusic-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users |
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Re: New JMask Beta Build
by menno
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Hello Steven,
again some little strange things (which may be on my system only!) - i choose for p3: 'probability' 'uniform' then 'quantizer' 'grid size (constant) 0,2', 'strenght (constant) 1', offset (constant) 0' this is the result for a 10 seconds JmaskObject i1 0.0 0.9615384936 i1 0.1923077 0.3846153915 i1 0.3846154 0.1923076957 i1 0.57692313 0.9615384936 i1 0.7692308 0.5769231319 i1 0.9615385 0.5769231319 i1 1.1538463 0.1923076957 i1 1.3461539 0.5769231319 i1 1.5384616 0.1923076957 i1 1.7307693 0.1923076957 i1 1.923077 0.5769231319 i1 2.1153848 0.3846153915 i1 2.3076925 0.5769231319 i1 2.5 0.3846153915 i1 2.6923077 0.3846153915 i1 2.8846154 0.3846153915 i1 3.0769231 0.3846153915 i1 3.269231 0.9615384936 i1 3.4615386 0.5769231319 i1 3.6538463 0.9615384936 i1 3.846154 0 i1 4.0384617 0.3846153915 i1 4.2307696 0.5769231319 i1 4.423077 0 i1 4.615385 0 i1 4.8076925 0.3846153915 i1 5.0 0.769230783 i1 5.192308 0 i1 5.3846154 0.769230783 i1 5.5769234 0.3846153915 i1 5.769231 0 i1 5.9615383 0 i1 6.1538463 0 i1 6.3461537 0.5769231319 i1 6.538462 0.5769231319 i1 6.7307696 0.1923076957 i1 6.923077 0 i1 7.115385 0.769230783 i1 7.3076925 0.1923076957 i1 7.5000005 0.1923076957 i1 7.692308 0.9615384936 i1 7.8846154 0.769230783 i1 8.076923 0.769230783 i1 8.269232 0.3846153915 i1 8.461539 0 i1 8.653847 0.3846153915 i1 8.846154 0.1923076957 i1 9.038462 0.1923076957 i1 9.23077 0.3846153915 i1 9.423078 0 i1 9.615385 0.3846153915 I can see that it is quantizing but the values are not what i would suspect: 0, 0.2, 0.4, 0.6, 0.8, 1. Is there an explanation why these numbers are not like this? - in the manual i read that for 'strenght' the 100% value = 1 and then gives total quantization. However i can enter greater numbers than 1. Menno |
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Re: New JMask Beta Build
by Steven Yi
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Hi Menno,
I gave this a try and I think what is happening is that by default, time behavior for JMask is set to Scale and that JMask algorithm will create as many notes up to the duration of the soundObject but not more than and sometimes a little less than. My guess is that the little less than, together with the Scale time behavior, is altering the p3. At least, that is what I saw here. Changing time behavior to None returned values in the grid as expected. Thanks! steven On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 12:18 PM, menno <nabob_cd@...> wrote: > > Hello Steven, > > again some little strange things (which may be on my system only!) > - i choose for p3: 'probability' 'uniform' > then 'quantizer' 'grid size (constant) 0,2', 'strenght (constant) 1', offset > (constant) 0' > this is the result for a 10 seconds JmaskObject > > i1 0.0 0.9615384936 > i1 0.1923077 0.3846153915 > i1 0.3846154 0.1923076957 > i1 0.57692313 0.9615384936 > i1 0.7692308 0.5769231319 > i1 0.9615385 0.5769231319 > i1 1.1538463 0.1923076957 > i1 1.3461539 0.5769231319 > i1 1.5384616 0.1923076957 > i1 1.7307693 0.1923076957 > i1 1.923077 0.5769231319 > i1 2.1153848 0.3846153915 > i1 2.3076925 0.5769231319 > i1 2.5 0.3846153915 > i1 2.6923077 0.3846153915 > i1 2.8846154 0.3846153915 > i1 3.0769231 0.3846153915 > i1 3.269231 0.9615384936 > i1 3.4615386 0.5769231319 > i1 3.6538463 0.9615384936 > i1 3.846154 0 > i1 4.0384617 0.3846153915 > i1 4.2307696 0.5769231319 > i1 4.423077 0 > i1 4.615385 0 > i1 4.8076925 0.3846153915 > i1 5.0 0.769230783 > i1 5.192308 0 > i1 5.3846154 0.769230783 > i1 5.5769234 0.3846153915 > i1 5.769231 0 > i1 5.9615383 0 > i1 6.1538463 0 > i1 6.3461537 0.5769231319 > i1 6.538462 0.5769231319 > i1 6.7307696 0.1923076957 > i1 6.923077 0 > i1 7.115385 0.769230783 > i1 7.3076925 0.1923076957 > i1 7.5000005 0.1923076957 > i1 7.692308 0.9615384936 > i1 7.8846154 0.769230783 > i1 8.076923 0.769230783 > i1 8.269232 0.3846153915 > i1 8.461539 0 > i1 8.653847 0.3846153915 > i1 8.846154 0.1923076957 > i1 9.038462 0.1923076957 > i1 9.23077 0.3846153915 > i1 9.423078 0 > i1 9.615385 0.3846153915 > > I can see that it is quantizing but the values are not what i would suspect: > 0, 0.2, 0.4, 0.6, 0.8, 1. Is there an explanation why these numbers are not > like this? > > - in the manual i read that for 'strenght' the 100% value = 1 and then gives > total quantization. However i can enter greater numbers than 1. > > Menno > > ----- > http://home.hccnet.nl/mag.knevel/ > http://www.jamendo.com/de/album/6789/ > http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/7428/ > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/New-JMask-Beta-Build-tp17168785p17170969.html > Sent from the Csound - Blue - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > _______________________________________________ > Bluemusic-users mailing list > Bluemusic-users@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone _______________________________________________ Bluemusic-users mailing list Bluemusic-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users |
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Re: New JMask Beta Build
by Steven Yi
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Also, thanks for mentioning the limit on Strength. I have made it
0.0-1.0 on the spinner and disabled setting the min/max on the table so it is fixed to 0.0-1.0. On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@...> wrote: > Hi Menno, > > I gave this a try and I think what is happening is that by default, > time behavior for JMask is set to Scale and that JMask algorithm will > create as many notes up to the duration of the soundObject but not > more than and sometimes a little less than. My guess is that the > little less than, together with the Scale time behavior, is altering > the p3. At least, that is what I saw here. Changing time behavior to > None returned values in the grid as expected. > > Thanks! > steven > > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 12:18 PM, menno <nabob_cd@...> wrote: >> >> Hello Steven, >> >> again some little strange things (which may be on my system only!) >> - i choose for p3: 'probability' 'uniform' >> then 'quantizer' 'grid size (constant) 0,2', 'strenght (constant) 1', offset >> (constant) 0' >> this is the result for a 10 seconds JmaskObject >> >> i1 0.0 0.9615384936 >> i1 0.1923077 0.3846153915 >> i1 0.3846154 0.1923076957 >> i1 0.57692313 0.9615384936 >> i1 0.7692308 0.5769231319 >> i1 0.9615385 0.5769231319 >> i1 1.1538463 0.1923076957 >> i1 1.3461539 0.5769231319 >> i1 1.5384616 0.1923076957 >> i1 1.7307693 0.1923076957 >> i1 1.923077 0.5769231319 >> i1 2.1153848 0.3846153915 >> i1 2.3076925 0.5769231319 >> i1 2.5 0.3846153915 >> i1 2.6923077 0.3846153915 >> i1 2.8846154 0.3846153915 >> i1 3.0769231 0.3846153915 >> i1 3.269231 0.9615384936 >> i1 3.4615386 0.5769231319 >> i1 3.6538463 0.9615384936 >> i1 3.846154 0 >> i1 4.0384617 0.3846153915 >> i1 4.2307696 0.5769231319 >> i1 4.423077 0 >> i1 4.615385 0 >> i1 4.8076925 0.3846153915 >> i1 5.0 0.769230783 >> i1 5.192308 0 >> i1 5.3846154 0.769230783 >> i1 5.5769234 0.3846153915 >> i1 5.769231 0 >> i1 5.9615383 0 >> i1 6.1538463 0 >> i1 6.3461537 0.5769231319 >> i1 6.538462 0.5769231319 >> i1 6.7307696 0.1923076957 >> i1 6.923077 0 >> i1 7.115385 0.769230783 >> i1 7.3076925 0.1923076957 >> i1 7.5000005 0.1923076957 >> i1 7.692308 0.9615384936 >> i1 7.8846154 0.769230783 >> i1 8.076923 0.769230783 >> i1 8.269232 0.3846153915 >> i1 8.461539 0 >> i1 8.653847 0.3846153915 >> i1 8.846154 0.1923076957 >> i1 9.038462 0.1923076957 >> i1 9.23077 0.3846153915 >> i1 9.423078 0 >> i1 9.615385 0.3846153915 >> >> I can see that it is quantizing but the values are not what i would suspect: >> 0, 0.2, 0.4, 0.6, 0.8, 1. Is there an explanation why these numbers are not >> like this? >> >> - in the manual i read that for 'strenght' the 100% value = 1 and then gives >> total quantization. However i can enter greater numbers than 1. >> >> Menno >> >> ----- >> http://home.hccnet.nl/mag.knevel/ >> http://www.jamendo.com/de/album/6789/ >> http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/7428/ >> -- >> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/New-JMask-Beta-Build-tp17168785p17170969.html >> Sent from the Csound - Blue - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference >> Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. >> Use priority code J8TL2D2. >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone >> _______________________________________________ >> Bluemusic-users mailing list >> Bluemusic-users@... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone _______________________________________________ Bluemusic-users mailing list Bluemusic-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users |
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Re: New JMask Beta Build
by Jan Jacob Hofmann
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Dear Menno, dear Steven,
isn't what Menno is looking for also maybe a matter of precision? Maybe Menno needs a setting for prec? I guess I' like one. :-) Am 11.05.2008 um 21:18 schrieb menno:
All the best, Jan Jacob ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone _______________________________________________ Bluemusic-users mailing list Bluemusic-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluemusic-users |
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