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Netscreen 25 routing question

by Bret Jordan :: Rate this Message:

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I have a Netscreen 25 in my office and have a Netscreen 5XP that I take
with me when I travel.  I would like to have the VPN setup so that it
does not split tunnel.  Basically it sends everything across the link.  
I have this working with all the private address space behind my
Netscreen 25.  However, I can not get traffic out to the Internet over
the VPN tunnel, can someone help me know what I am doing wrong......
Thanks so much in advance.

<oh a jump back to the BBS days for some ascii art>

Picture 1:
                                         
========                                                                    
=======
192.168.201.1/24 (Trust) = NS5XP =   DHCP (Untrust)   -----------
4.1.2.2 (eth1) = NS25 =  10.128.0.5 (eth2)
                                         
========                                                                    
=======


Picture 2:
                       
=======                                                                        
===============
4.1.2.2 (eth1) = NS25 =  10.128.0.5 (eth2)  ----------------- 10.128.0.6
= Internal  Router = ----  10.0.0.0/8 (basically)
                       
=======                                                                        
===============


NS5XP Config:
Gateway = Static IP (4.1.2.2), Local ID (testaccount),
pre-g5-aes256-sha1, aggressive, enable NAT with UDP Checksum
AutoKey IKE = g5-esp-aes256-sha1, replay protection
Policy Untrust -> Trust = Any Any Any Tunnel
Policy Trust -> Untrust = Any Any Any Tunnel
Static Route = 0.0.0.0/0 -> Set by DHCP


NS25 Config:
Gateway = Dynamic IP with PeerID (testaccount), pre-g5-aes256-sha1,
aggressive, enable NAT with UDP Checksum
AutoKey IKE = g5-esp-aes256-sha1, replay protection
Policy Untrust -> Trust = Any Any Any Tunnel, SRC Nat to Egress IP
Policy Trust -> Untrust = Any Any Any Tunnel, SRC Nat to Egress IP
Static Route = 10.0.0.0/8 -> 10.128.0.6 on eth2
Static Route = 0.0.0.0/0 -> 4.1.2.1 on eth1


Like I said a computer sitting behind the NS5XP can talk to all the
device in 10.0.0.0/8 just fine.  Basically all devices behind eth2 on
the NS25.  However, the computer sitting behind the NS5XP can not talk
to anything on the Internet (no google for example).  It is appears that
I do not have something setup right with my routes or with my policies.  
When a packet destined to say Google comes out of the VPN tunnel on the
NS25, what happens next?  Do it hit the route table?  Do I need a
special policy?

Thanks in advance.

Bret

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Re: Netscreen 25 routing question

by Groshong, Christopher :: Rate this Message:

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try using route based tunnels for Juniper to Juniper
is it all 1 virtual router?  if you have two you can route the default
route on trust-vr over tunnel.x

if you have only 1 vr you can still route default (0.0.0.0) over tunnel
but you would need to add a more specific route for the NS25 and NS5
gateway IPs out to next hop address on untrust (Internet) side

 
Christopher Groshong, CISSP
Data and Voice Management
Piper Jaffray & Co.
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-----Original Message-----
From: nn-bounces@... [mailto:nn-bounces@...] On Behalf
Of Bret Jordan
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 2:15 AM
To: nn@...
Subject: [nn] Netscreen 25 routing question

I have a Netscreen 25 in my office and have a Netscreen 5XP that I take
with me when I travel.  I would like to have the VPN setup so that it
does not split tunnel.  Basically it sends everything across the link.  
I have this working with all the private address space behind my
Netscreen 25.  However, I can not get traffic out to the Internet over
the VPN tunnel, can someone help me know what I am doing wrong......
Thanks so much in advance.

<oh a jump back to the BBS days for some ascii art>

Picture 1:
                                         
========

=======
192.168.201.1/24 (Trust) = NS5XP =   DHCP (Untrust)   -----------
4.1.2.2 (eth1) = NS25 =  10.128.0.5 (eth2)
                                         
========

=======


Picture 2:
                       
=======

===============
4.1.2.2 (eth1) = NS25 =  10.128.0.5 (eth2)  ----------------- 10.128.0.6

= Internal  Router = ----  10.0.0.0/8 (basically)
                       
=======

===============


NS5XP Config:
Gateway = Static IP (4.1.2.2), Local ID (testaccount),
pre-g5-aes256-sha1, aggressive, enable NAT with UDP Checksum
AutoKey IKE = g5-esp-aes256-sha1, replay protection
Policy Untrust -> Trust = Any Any Any Tunnel
Policy Trust -> Untrust = Any Any Any Tunnel
Static Route = 0.0.0.0/0 -> Set by DHCP


NS25 Config:
Gateway = Dynamic IP with PeerID (testaccount), pre-g5-aes256-sha1,
aggressive, enable NAT with UDP Checksum
AutoKey IKE = g5-esp-aes256-sha1, replay protection
Policy Untrust -> Trust = Any Any Any Tunnel, SRC Nat to Egress IP
Policy Trust -> Untrust = Any Any Any Tunnel, SRC Nat to Egress IP
Static Route = 10.0.0.0/8 -> 10.128.0.6 on eth2
Static Route = 0.0.0.0/0 -> 4.1.2.1 on eth1


Like I said a computer sitting behind the NS5XP can talk to all the
device in 10.0.0.0/8 just fine.  Basically all devices behind eth2 on
the NS25.  However, the computer sitting behind the NS5XP can not talk
to anything on the Internet (no google for example).  It is appears that

I do not have something setup right with my routes or with my policies.

When a packet destined to say Google comes out of the VPN tunnel on the
NS25, what happens next?  Do it hit the route table?  Do I need a
special policy?

Thanks in advance.

Bret

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Re: Netscreen 25 routing question

by prolixium :: Rate this Message:

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On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 01:12:57PM -0500, Groshong, Christopher wrote:
> try using route based tunnels for Juniper to Juniper
> is it all 1 virtual router?  if you have two you can route the default
> route on trust-vr over tunnel.x

In my experience, this is the easiest solution, as it minimizes any
additional configuration needed when bringing up the VPN.

As a side note, it also allows you to administer the remote device from
another location, w/out any additional static routes.

Cheers!

- Mark

>
> if you have only 1 vr you can still route default (0.0.0.0) over tunnel
> but you would need to add a more specific route for the NS25 and NS5
> gateway IPs out to next hop address on untrust (Internet) side
>
>  
> Christopher Groshong, CISSP
> Data and Voice Management
> Piper Jaffray & Co.
> 612.303.0165 phone  | US
> 612.282.3007 mobile | US
> christopher.d.groshong@...
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nn-bounces@... [mailto:nn-bounces@...] On Behalf
> Of Bret Jordan
> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 2:15 AM
> To: nn@...
> Subject: [nn] Netscreen 25 routing question
>
> I have a Netscreen 25 in my office and have a Netscreen 5XP that I take
> with me when I travel.  I would like to have the VPN setup so that it
> does not split tunnel.  Basically it sends everything across the link.  
> I have this working with all the private address space behind my
> Netscreen 25.  However, I can not get traffic out to the Internet over
> the VPN tunnel, can someone help me know what I am doing wrong......
> Thanks so much in advance.
>
> <oh a jump back to the BBS days for some ascii art>
>
> Picture 1:
>                                          
> ========
>
> =======
> 192.168.201.1/24 (Trust) = NS5XP =   DHCP (Untrust)   -----------
> 4.1.2.2 (eth1) = NS25 =  10.128.0.5 (eth2)
>                                          
> ========
>
> =======
>
>
> Picture 2:
>                        
> =======
>
> ===============
> 4.1.2.2 (eth1) = NS25 =  10.128.0.5 (eth2)  ----------------- 10.128.0.6
>
> = Internal  Router = ----  10.0.0.0/8 (basically)
>                        
> =======
>
> ===============
>
>
> NS5XP Config:
> Gateway = Static IP (4.1.2.2), Local ID (testaccount),
> pre-g5-aes256-sha1, aggressive, enable NAT with UDP Checksum
> AutoKey IKE = g5-esp-aes256-sha1, replay protection
> Policy Untrust -> Trust = Any Any Any Tunnel
> Policy Trust -> Untrust = Any Any Any Tunnel
> Static Route = 0.0.0.0/0 -> Set by DHCP
>
>
> NS25 Config:
> Gateway = Dynamic IP with PeerID (testaccount), pre-g5-aes256-sha1,
> aggressive, enable NAT with UDP Checksum
> AutoKey IKE = g5-esp-aes256-sha1, replay protection
> Policy Untrust -> Trust = Any Any Any Tunnel, SRC Nat to Egress IP
> Policy Trust -> Untrust = Any Any Any Tunnel, SRC Nat to Egress IP
> Static Route = 10.0.0.0/8 -> 10.128.0.6 on eth2
> Static Route = 0.0.0.0/0 -> 4.1.2.1 on eth1
>
>
> Like I said a computer sitting behind the NS5XP can talk to all the
> device in 10.0.0.0/8 just fine.  Basically all devices behind eth2 on
> the NS25.  However, the computer sitting behind the NS5XP can not talk
> to anything on the Internet (no google for example).  It is appears that
>
> I do not have something setup right with my routes or with my policies.
>
> When a packet destined to say Google comes out of the VPN tunnel on the
> NS25, what happens next?  Do it hit the route table?  Do I need a
> special policy?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bret
>
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> 55402
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