NetBeans 6.0 Milestone 3 available

[Martin Balin]

Hello,

Milestone 3 of NetBeans 6.0 (Dev) is now available for download at http://qa.netbeans.org/q-builds/index_trunk.html

NetBeans 6.0 M3 contains few improvements:
* Ant output window now features Stop and Re-run buttons
* Windows Vista look and feel is fully supported if you run NetBeans 6.0 on latest available build of Java SE 6.0
* Run configurations is now avaialable also for Java SE projects.

Pictures tell you more about these features, check:  http://wiki.netbeans.info/wiki/view/NewAndNoteWorthy
Overall report for M3 is available as well http://wiki.netbeans.info/wiki/view/Milestone3Report

Martin Balin

[Wade Chandler]

--- Martin Balin <Martin.Balin@...> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Milestone 3 of NetBeans 6.0 (Dev) is now available
> for download at
> http://qa.netbeans.org/q-builds/index_trunk.html

Are the 5.5 features moved into the 6.0 trunk yet, or
will that not happen until 5.5 release?

Wade

[Chuck Davis-3]

Wade:

The indication at NB day in Seattle was that the EE stuff in 5.5 would
not be introduced into 6.0 until after 5.5 goes gold (next month).
Nevertheless, some nice features are sneaking into the 6.0 daily
builds -- particularly, I think, if you're running a recent build of
jdk 6.

Chuck

On 9/19/06, Wade Chandler <hwadechandler-nb@...> wrote:

> --- Martin Balin <Martin.Balin@...> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Milestone 3 of NetBeans 6.0 (Dev) is now available
> > for download at
> > http://qa.netbeans.org/q-builds/index_trunk.html
>
> Are the 5.5 features moved into the 6.0 trunk yet, or
> will that not happen until 5.5 release?
>
> Wade
>

[Petr Blaha]

The milestone 3 doesn't include EE 5.5 functionality yet. We plan to
merge these features in Milestone 4.

Petr

Wade Chandler wrote:

> --- Martin Balin <Martin.Balin@...> wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>Milestone 3 of NetBeans 6.0 (Dev) is now available
>>for download at
>>http://qa.netbeans.org/q-builds/index_trunk.html
>
>
> Are the 5.5 features moved into the 6.0 trunk yet, or
> will that not happen until 5.5 release?
>
> Wade

[legolas]

Martin Balin wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Milestone 3 of NetBeans 6.0 (Dev) is now available for download at http://qa.netbeans.org/q-builds/index_trunk.html
>
> NetBeans 6.0 M3 contains few improvements:
> * Ant output window now features Stop and Re-run buttons
> * Windows Vista look and feel is fully supported if you run NetBeans 6.0 on latest available build of Java SE 6.0
> * Run configurations is now avaialable also for Java SE projects.
>
> Pictures tell you more about these features, check:  http://wiki.netbeans.info/wiki/view/NewAndNoteWorthy
> Overall report for M3 is available as well http://wiki.netbeans.info/wiki/view/Milestone3Report
>
> Martin Balin
>

are you sure that these are only features in a milestone build ?
how much milestone you will produce before netbeans 6 final version ?
we heard many thing about improvement and redesign of Netbeans 6 editor
and code completor , but at least until last milestone nothing changed
from a user point of view.
does any of those capabilities (specially speed and smartness of code
completer) has been added yet ?
for example ability that make it possible for code completer just to
show assign able items and many more ...

Thanks

[Martin Balin]

> are you sure that these are only features in a milestone build ?
Yes, these are the main new features in M3.

> how much milestone you will produce before netbeans 6 final version ?
We don't know yet because 6.0 planning just started.

> we heard many thing about improvement and redesign of
> Netbeans 6 editor and code completor , but at least until
> last milestone nothing changed from a user point of view.
> does any of those capabilities (specially speed and smartness of code
> completer) has been added yet ?

No it was not added at this moment. New Editor capabilities are being developed and stabilized on a branch and will be added soon
into NetBeans 6.0. As this will be a big change we want to make sure it is stable and all developers will be able to adopt it. This
will not happen before 5.5 is out. Other changes planned are merging Java EE 5 support into 6.0, this is going to happen also soon.

I know M3 was not the big step in a sense of new features added and we want to make better in a future.

Martin

> for example ability that make it possible for code completer
> just to show assign able items and many more ...
>
> Thanks
>

[Martin Balin]

If you mean merging Java EE 5 support this is going to happen soon, around 5.5 release time frame. Hopefully it will be in M4.
Martin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nbusers-return-77368-martin.balin=sun.com@...
> [mailto:nbusers-return-77368-martin.balin=sun.com@...
> ] On Behalf Of Wade Chandler
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:00 PM
> To: nbusers@...
> Subject: Re: [nbusers] NetBeans 6.0 Milestone 3 available
>
> --- Martin Balin <Martin.Balin@...> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Milestone 3 of NetBeans 6.0 (Dev) is now available for download at
> > http://qa.netbeans.org/q-builds/index_trunk.html
>
> Are the 5.5 features moved into the 6.0 trunk yet, or will
> that not happen until 5.5 release?
>
> Wade
>

[Thomas Kellerer]

Martin Balin wrote on 19.09.2006 14:18:

> Hello,
>
> Milestone 3 of NetBeans 6.0 (Dev) is now available for download at http://qa.netbeans.org/q-builds/index_trunk.html
>
> NetBeans 6.0 M3 contains few improvements:
> * Ant output window now features Stop and Re-run buttons
> * Windows Vista look and feel is fully supported if you run NetBeans 6.0 on latest available build of Java SE 6.0
> * Run configurations is now avaialable also for Java SE projects.
>
> Pictures tell you more about these features, check:  http://wiki.netbeans.info/wiki/view/NewAndNoteWorthy
> Overall report for M3 is available as well http://wiki.netbeans.info/wiki/view/Milestone3Report
>
> Martin Balin
>

I have been playing around with the daily builds for a while now, and I do love
the new "run configuration" feature. I also like the new layout for the JUnit
output window.

One thing that I have noticed: when running NB with JDK 6 NetBeans sometimes
simply vanishes. No entry in messages.log no log file in the JDK bin directory
(which I usually see, when the JVM simply terminates).

Has anyone else seen this? I cannot reproduce it, and I'm wondering if this is a
JDK 6 problem, a NetBeans problem or a problem between the two (I have never
seen my own apps simply "vanish" with JDK 6)


Regards
Thomas

[Chuck Davis-3]

Thomas:

I've been using the 6.0 daily builds for a couple of months now on
jdk6 (64 bit) and I have never seen this phenomenon!  In fact, the
NB6.0 / jdk 6 combo is more stable than the NB5 /jdk5 combo in my
environment.

If it's a jdk problem you should be getting an error log in your home
directory with a name like hs_err_pidxxxxxx.log.  If you're not
getting any logs it's not a jdk problem probably.

Chuck

On 9/20/06, Thomas Kellerer <spam_eater@...> wrote:

> Martin Balin wrote on 19.09.2006 14:18:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Milestone 3 of NetBeans 6.0 (Dev) is now available for download at
> http://qa.netbeans.org/q-builds/index_trunk.html
> >
> > NetBeans 6.0 M3 contains few improvements:
> > * Ant output window now features Stop and Re-run buttons
> > * Windows Vista look and feel is fully supported if you run NetBeans 6.0
> on latest available build of Java SE 6.0
> > * Run configurations is now avaialable also for Java SE projects.
> >
> > Pictures tell you more about these features, check:
> http://wiki.netbeans.info/wiki/view/NewAndNoteWorthy
> > Overall report for M3 is available as well
> http://wiki.netbeans.info/wiki/view/Milestone3Report
> >
> > Martin Balin
> >
>
> I have been playing around with the daily builds for a while now, and I do
> love
> the new "run configuration" feature. I also like the new layout for the
> JUnit
> output window.
>
> One thing that I have noticed: when running NB with JDK 6 NetBeans sometimes
> simply vanishes. No entry in messages.log no log file in the JDK bin
> directory
> (which I usually see, when the JVM simply terminates).
>
> Has anyone else seen this? I cannot reproduce it, and I'm wondering if this
> is a
> JDK 6 problem, a NetBeans problem or a problem between the two (I have never
> seen my own apps simply "vanish" with JDK 6)
>
>
> Regards
> Thomas
>
>

[Thomas Kellerer]

Hi Chuck,

I do get an hs_err_pidxxx.log in the JDK directory. But as this *only* happens
with NB, it might well be a NB problem (most probably a combination of both).

In the meantime I filed an issue for this, just to make sure it will not be
overlooked. I guess the NB guys will forward that to the JDK guys if it turns
out to be, that it can only be fixed in the JDK

Cheers
Thomas

Chuck Davis wrote on 20.09.2006 16:16:

> Thomas:
>
> I've been using the 6.0 daily builds for a couple of months now on
> jdk6 (64 bit) and I have never seen this phenomenon!  In fact, the
> NB6.0 / jdk 6 combo is more stable than the NB5 /jdk5 combo in my
> environment.
>
> If it's a jdk problem you should be getting an error log in your home
> directory with a name like hs_err_pidxxxxxx.log.  If you're not
> getting any logs it's not a jdk problem probably.
>
> Chuck
>
> On 9/20/06, Thomas Kellerer <spam_eater@...> wrote:
>> Martin Balin wrote on 19.09.2006 14:18:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Milestone 3 of NetBeans 6.0 (Dev) is now available for download at
>> http://qa.netbeans.org/q-builds/index_trunk.html
>> >
>> > NetBeans 6.0 M3 contains few improvements:
>> > * Ant output window now features Stop and Re-run buttons
>> > * Windows Vista look and feel is fully supported if you run NetBeans
>> 6.0
>> on latest available build of Java SE 6.0
>> > * Run configurations is now avaialable also for Java SE projects.
>> >
>> > Pictures tell you more about these features, check:
>> http://wiki.netbeans.info/wiki/view/NewAndNoteWorthy
>> > Overall report for M3 is available as well
>> http://wiki.netbeans.info/wiki/view/Milestone3Report
>> >
>> > Martin Balin
>> >
>>
>> I have been playing around with the daily builds for a while now, and
>> I do
>> love
>> the new "run configuration" feature. I also like the new layout for the
>> JUnit
>> output window.
>>
>> One thing that I have noticed: when running NB with JDK 6 NetBeans
>> sometimes
>> simply vanishes. No entry in messages.log no log file in the JDK bin
>> directory
>> (which I usually see, when the JVM simply terminates).
>>
>> Has anyone else seen this? I cannot reproduce it, and I'm wondering if
>> this
>> is a
>> JDK 6 problem, a NetBeans problem or a problem between the two (I have
>> never
>> seen my own apps simply "vanish" with JDK 6)
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>

[Jesse Beaumont]

Chuck Davis wrote:

> Thomas:
>
> I've been using the 6.0 daily builds for a couple of months now on
> jdk6 (64 bit) and I have never seen this phenomenon!  In fact, the
> NB6.0 / jdk 6 combo is more stable than the NB5 /jdk5 combo in my
> environment.
>
> If it's a jdk problem you should be getting an error log in your home
> directory with a name like hs_err_pidxxxxxx.log.  If you're not
> getting any logs it's not a jdk problem probably.
>
> Chuck
>>
>>
>> I have been playing around with the daily builds for a while now, and
>> I do
>> love
>> the new "run configuration" feature. I also like the new layout for the
>> JUnit
>> output window.
>>
>> One thing that I have noticed: when running NB with JDK 6 NetBeans
>> sometimes
>> simply vanishes. No entry in messages.log no log file in the JDK bin
>> directory
>> (which I usually see, when the JVM simply terminates).
>>
>> Has anyone else seen this? I cannot reproduce it, and I'm wondering
>> if this
>> is a
>> JDK 6 problem, a NetBeans problem or a problem between the two (I
>> have never
>> seen my own apps simply "vanish" with JDK 6)
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>
>

We had a problem like this which was eventually diagnosed as resulting
from a faulty DIMM in the machine.  All other Netbeans related crashes
either produce exception messages in the NetBeans logs or a virtual
machine error log as Chuck mentioned, in my experience.

Jesse

[Chuck Davis-3]

Hi Thomas:

Well, I do get the impression that NB pushes the jdk envelope!  :)

Chuck

On 9/20/06, Thomas Kellerer <spam_eater@...> wrote:

> Hi Chuck,
>
> I do get an hs_err_pidxxx.log in the JDK directory. But as this *only*
> happens
> with NB, it might well be a NB problem (most probably a combination of
> both).
>
> In the meantime I filed an issue for this, just to make sure it will not be
> overlooked. I guess the NB guys will forward that to the JDK guys if it
> turns
> out to be, that it can only be fixed in the JDK
>
> Cheers
> Thomas
>
> Chuck Davis wrote on 20.09.2006 16:16:
> > Thomas:
> >
> > I've been using the 6.0 daily builds for a couple of months now on
> > jdk6 (64 bit) and I have never seen this phenomenon!  In fact, the
> > NB6.0 / jdk 6 combo is more stable than the NB5 /jdk5 combo in my
> > environment.
> >
> > If it's a jdk problem you should be getting an error log in your home
> > directory with a name like hs_err_pidxxxxxx.log.  If you're not
> > getting any logs it's not a jdk problem probably.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > On 9/20/06, Thomas Kellerer <spam_eater@...> wrote:
> >> Martin Balin wrote on 19.09.2006 14:18:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > Milestone 3 of NetBeans 6.0 (Dev) is now available for download at
> >> http://qa.netbeans.org/q-builds/index_trunk.html
> >> >
> >> > NetBeans 6.0 M3 contains few improvements:
> >> > * Ant output window now features Stop and Re-run buttons
> >> > * Windows Vista look and feel is fully supported if you run NetBeans
> >> 6.0
> >> on latest available build of Java SE 6.0
> >> > * Run configurations is now avaialable also for Java SE projects.
> >> >
> >> > Pictures tell you more about these features, check:
> >> http://wiki.netbeans.info/wiki/view/NewAndNoteWorthy
> >> > Overall report for M3 is available as well
> >> http://wiki.netbeans.info/wiki/view/Milestone3Report
> >> >
> >> > Martin Balin
> >> >
> >>
> >> I have been playing around with the daily builds for a while now, and
> >> I do
> >> love
> >> the new "run configuration" feature. I also like the new layout for the
> >> JUnit
> >> output window.
> >>
> >> One thing that I have noticed: when running NB with JDK 6 NetBeans
> >> sometimes
> >> simply vanishes. No entry in messages.log no log file in the JDK bin
> >> directory
> >> (which I usually see, when the JVM simply terminates).
> >>
> >> Has anyone else seen this? I cannot reproduce it, and I'm wondering if
> >> this
> >> is a
> >> JDK 6 problem, a NetBeans problem or a problem between the two (I have
> >> never
> >> seen my own apps simply "vanish" with JDK 6)
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Thomas
> >>
> >>
> >
>