Need help with partitioning

[Adil Drissi]

Hi,

I've a laptop of 50GB. I am using the half for fedora 8 and i want to use the rest for
windows. I made a lot of modifications to the partition in previous installations by win or fedora and now i want you to help me figure it the right way.
When i run gparted i see the following:

/dev/sda/ (46.56 GB)
---------------------------
/dev/sda3 26.22GB

unallocated 20.15GB
------------------------------
/dev/sda1 ext3 boot boot 203.92 MB 31.39 MB 172.53 MB boot
/dev/sda3 unknown    26.22 GB ... ... lvm
/dev/sda2 extended    20.15 GB ... ... lba
    unallocated unallocated    20.15 GB ... ...
unallocated unallocated    7.84 GB ... ...

Thanks


     

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[Peter Boy]

Am Freitag, den 08.08.2008, 10:07 -0700 schrieb Adil Drissi:
> I've a laptop of 50GB. I am using the half for fedora 8 and i want to
>  use the rest for windows. I made a lot of modifications to the
>  partition in previous installations by win or fedora and now i want
>  you to help me figure it the right way.

An often discussed topic.

Given you will "do it right" and don't need to preserve the current
partitions I would boot from a Fedora live CD or rescue system and use
fdisk to partition the disk by fdisk /dev/sda

prim partion 1:  24 gb hpfs
prim partion 2:  50 gb ext3 (for boot, you may safely ignore
                 the warning)
prim partion 3:  500 mb swap
prim partion 4:  rest of the disk for LVM

In LVM:
8 - 10 gb lvSYS  for the root file system
10 gb     lvHOME for /home

you may have about 2 gb unallocated which you can use later by lvm
manager according to your needs.

For root: 8 gb is enough for normal use (office desktop) and if you
don't install "all" software packages. 10 gb is pretty much comfortable
in this case, but you may need it for /home.

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[Aaron Konstam]

On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 10:07 -0700, Adil Drissi wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've a laptop of 50GB. I am using the half for fedora 8 and i want to use the rest for
> windows. I made a lot of modifications to the partition in previous installations by win or fedora and now i want you to help me figure it the right way.
> When i run gparted i see the following:
>
> /dev/sda/ (46.56 GB)
> ---------------------------
> /dev/sda3 26.22GB
>
> unallocated 20.15GB
> ------------------------------
> /dev/sda1 ext3 boot boot 203.92 MB 31.39 MB 172.53 MB boot
> /dev/sda3 unknown    26.22 GB ... ... lvm
> /dev/sda2 extended    20.15 GB ... ... lba
>     unallocated unallocated    20.15 GB ... ...
> unallocated unallocated    7.84 GB ... ...
>
> Thanks
>

You generally want Win on the first partition which is not now constant with the

 partitioning you have done if I understand your output.
>      
>
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[Adil Drissi]

Hi thank you for your answer,

I didn't understand many things.

1. When you speak about fedora live cd do you mean the cd that i used for installing fedora? in That case there are some options when i boot from it, which one should i use?

2. when using fdisk should i use n for creating the partitions you sugested or i must unpartition everything. In that case how?

May be these are obvious questions for people who already use these tchniques but for me it is really the first time. Maybe i should read some tutorial dealing with that. Do you know about one  explaining just the basic things that i need or you can have the time to answer this kind of questions?

Thanks a lot
--- On Fri, 8/8/08, Peter Boy <pboy@...> wrote:

> From: Peter Boy <pboy@...>
> Subject: Re: Need help with partitioning
> To: adil.drissi@..., "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@...>
> Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 5:55 PM
> Am Freitag, den 08.08.2008, 10:07 -0700 schrieb Adil Drissi:
> > I've a laptop of 50GB. I am using the half for
> fedora 8 and i want to
> >  use the rest for windows. I made a lot of
> modifications to the
> >  partition in previous installations by win or fedora
> and now i want
> >  you to help me figure it the right way.
>
> An often discussed topic.
>
> Given you will "do it right" and don't need
> to preserve the current
> partitions I would boot from a Fedora live CD or rescue
> system and use
> fdisk to partition the disk by fdisk /dev/sda
>
> prim partion 1:  24 gb hpfs
> prim partion 2:  50 gb ext3 (for boot, you may safely
> ignore
>                  the warning)
> prim partion 3:  500 mb swap
> prim partion 4:  rest of the disk for LVM
>
> In LVM:
> 8 - 10 gb lvSYS  for the root file system
> 10 gb     lvHOME for /home
>
> you may have about 2 gb unallocated which you can use later
> by lvm
> manager according to your needs.
>
> For root: 8 gb is enough for normal use (office desktop)
> and if you
> don't install "all" software packages. 10 gb
> is pretty much comfortable
> in this case, but you may need it for /home.

     

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[Tim-163]

On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 17:11 -0700, Adil Drissi wrote:
> 1. When you speak about fedora live cd do you mean the cd that i used
> for installing fedora? in That case there are some options when i boot
> from it, which one should i use?

We don't know what disc you used to install from...  Here's what you
could have:

There's a "live disc" which you can boot up from and run the OS from
without installing anything to any drive.  You can *also* start an
installation from it.

There are other discs which can only be used to start an installation,
with different discs for different architectures (Intel x86 CPU, PPC,
64-bit).

There's a rescue disc, which can be used to repair a broken system (it's
a bootable disc, with a minimal working environment), and can be used to
start installs which will install files from another source (such as
from a network server, or another hard drive).

You might want to start out by reading the notes available from this
page:  http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/  There's a
section about installation.

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[Adil Drissi]

I have already fedora8 installed. Can't i just run fdisk from the terminal?


--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Tim <ignored_mailbox@...> wrote:

> From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@...>
> Subject: Re: Need help with partitioning
> To: adil.drissi@..., "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@...>
> Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 1:01 AM
> On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 17:11 -0700, Adil Drissi wrote:
> > 1. When you speak about fedora live cd do you mean the
> cd that i used
> > for installing fedora? in That case there are some
> options when i boot
> > from it, which one should i use?
>
> We don't know what disc you used to install from...
> Here's what you
> could have:
>
> There's a "live disc" which you can boot up
> from and run the OS from
> without installing anything to any drive.  You can *also*
> start an
> installation from it.
>
> There are other discs which can only be used to start an
> installation,
> with different discs for different architectures (Intel x86
> CPU, PPC,
> 64-bit).
>
> There's a rescue disc, which can be used to repair a
> broken system (it's
> a bootable disc, with a minimal working environment), and
> can be used to
> start installs which will install files from another source
> (such as
> from a network server, or another hard drive).
>
> You might want to start out by reading the notes available
> from this
> page:  http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/ 
> There's a
> section about installation.
>
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[Tim-163]

On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 18:07 -0700, Adil Drissi wrote:
> I have already fedora8 installed. Can't i just run fdisk from the
> terminal?

That rather depends on what you're going to do with it.  If you modify
the partitions that Fedora is currently using, you're very likely to
kill your installation (though it is possible to do *some* management of
partitions on an installation, if you know what you're doing).  But I
think you're faced with that problem, anyway (killing your
installation).

Looking at your prior message, you've installed Fedora, now you want to
install Windows.  Windows has a reputation for stomping over set-ups,
and taking everything for itself.  The install disc that came with my
Laptop will install Vista and not give me any options for how to use the
drive, beyond to use all the drive, or half of it (one Windows
partition, and one spare empty partition).  Anything else already on the
hard drive will be wiped out, whatever option I chose.  Whereas, on
prior versions of Windows, I'd seen options to pick a partition to
install Windows to, and not mess with other ones already on the drive.
Though you'll still have the fun and games of reinstalling a bootloader
to be able to boot Linux after you've installed Windows.

The usual advice is to install Windows first.  Depending on how your
Windows install works, that might be done by partitioning your drive
first, or partitioning it as part of the Windows installation.  With one
big partition for Windows, and the rest of the drive space reserved for
your Linux installations.  Then, after installing Windows, you'd install
Linux onto that reserved space, probably further partitioning it during
the Linux installation (carving it up into boot, swap, and the root
partition, and any other partitions that you wanted).

Have you looked at the reference I gave you in the prior message?  You
might also want to look at the installation guide:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f9/en_US/

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