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by eternity-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi!

I have a problem with a whole bunch of NET5501:s. I have read some posts
with similar problems, but not exactly this, I think, so I post my
problem:

On a Cold boot my CF Card is detected:

Pri Mas  CF CARD 1GB                     LBA Xlt 983-32-63  990 Mbyte

Then at boot:

GRUB Loading stage1.5.

GRUB loading, please wait...
Error 25

---

If I press ctrl-p, and at once in combios makes a "reboot" everything
works OK, and GRUB can load correctly.

I have used lots of net5501 boxes with this distribution (same image file
I write to the CF card) without any trouble at all. I have tried upgrading
BIOS to 1.33c version, but no change.

Any ideas? Could it be the flash card? Or some defect on these batch of
boards?

Regards,
Chris


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Re: NET5501 Boot Problem

by Sargun Dhillon :: Rate this Message:

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Don't use Grub. It is way too beefy for what you need. Use syslinux!
It's much simpler, and easier. Additionally, it is far more mature than
the grub project.



Eternity wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I have a problem with a whole bunch of NET5501:s. I have read some posts
> with similar problems, but not exactly this, I think, so I post my
> problem:
>
> On a Cold boot my CF Card is detected:
>
> Pri Mas  CF CARD 1GB                     LBA Xlt 983-32-63  990 Mbyte
>
> Then at boot:
>
> GRUB Loading stage1.5.
>
> GRUB loading, please wait...
> Error 25
>
> ---
>
> If I press ctrl-p, and at once in combios makes a "reboot" everything
> works OK, and GRUB can load correctly.
>
> I have used lots of net5501 boxes with this distribution (same image file
> I write to the CF card) without any trouble at all. I have tried upgrading
> BIOS to 1.33c version, but no change.
>
> Any ideas? Could it be the flash card? Or some defect on these batch of
> boards?
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
>
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Re: NET5501 Boot Problem

by Chris Babcock-3 :: Rate this Message:

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Eternity wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I have a problem with a whole bunch of NET5501:s. I have read some posts
> with similar problems, but not exactly this, I think, so I post my
> problem:
>
> On a Cold boot my CF Card is detected:
>
> Pri Mas  CF CARD 1GB                     LBA Xlt 983-32-63  990 Mbyte
>
> Then at boot:
>
> GRUB Loading stage1.5.
>
> GRUB loading, please wait...
> Error 25
>
> ---
>
> If I press ctrl-p, and at once in combios makes a "reboot" everything
> works OK, and GRUB can load correctly.
>
> I have used lots of net5501 boxes with this distribution (same image file
> I write to the CF card) without any trouble at all. I have tried upgrading
> BIOS to 1.33c version, but no change.
>
> Any ideas? Could it be the flash card? Or some defect on these batch of
> boards?
>
It could be the flash or a defective board.  If you have a known working
  unit, try swapping the flash into it and see if you get the same
error.  If another known working unit does the same thing, you probably
have one of the 5501 boards with issues (RMA to resolve).  If the error
persists, it's probably bad CF.  One other possibility... Did you image
the CF or do the install from a different system?  If you did, there are
often disk geometry issues in the install, which can and often do cause
issues, esp with boot loaders.  The only safe way to make sure the
geometry is correct on a load is to load on the exact same type of
system (so in this case, another 5501).

Grub manual error code link:
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Stage1_002e5-errors

According to the grub manual Error 25 in stage 1.5 is...

25 : Disk read error
     This error is returned if there is a disk read error when trying to
probe or read data from a particular disk.
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Re: NET5501 Boot Problem

by Andy Michaels :: Rate this Message:

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Then at boot:

GRUB Loading stage1.5.

GRUB loading, please wait...
Error 25

I used LILO and that solved my error 25 problems

-Andy 

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Wim Vandeputte mailinglist only wrote:

> hey,
>
> This is actually the same error you see with FreeBSD and OpenBSD when
> the BIOS has problems recognising the CF. You can spot it when there is
> a 20 second delay when detecting the CF and when the bootloader tries
> any disk activity
>
> comBIOS ver. 1.33c 20080626  Copyright (C) 2000-2008 Soekris Engineering.
>
> net5501
>
> 0256 Mbyte Memory                        CPU Geode LX 434 Mhz
>
> Pri Mas  SILICONSYSTEMS INC 1GB          LBA Xlt 1015-32-63  1023 Mbyte
>
> Slot   Vend Dev  ClassRev Cmd  Stat CL LT HT  Base1    Base2   Int
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> 0:01:2 1022 2082 10100000 0006 0220 08 00 00 A0000000 00000000 10
> 0:06:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E101 A0004000 11
> 0:07:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E201 A0004100 05
> 0:08:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E301 A0004200 09
> 0:09:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E401 A0004300 12
> 0:20:0 1022 2090 06010003 0009 02A0 08 40 80 00006001 00006101
> 0:20:2 1022 209A 01018001 0005 02A0 08 00 00 00000000 00000000
> 0:21:0 1022 2094 0C031002 0006 0230 08 00 80 A0005000 00000000 15
> 0:21:1 1022 2095 0C032002 0006 0230 08 00 00 A0006000 00000000 15
>
>  1 Seconds to automatic boot.   Press Ctrl-P for entering Monitor.
> Using drive 0, partition 3.
> Loading...
> probing: pc0 com0 com1 pci mem[639K 255M a20=on]
> disk: hd0+*
>
>>>OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 3.01
>
> open(hd0a:/etc/boot.conf): Unknown error: code 102
> boot> reboot
> Rebooting...
> exit
>
>
> POST: 012345689bcefghips1234ajklnopqr,,,tvwxy
>
>
> comBIOS ver. 1.33c 20080626  Copyright (C) 2000-2008 Soekris Engineering.
>
> net5501
>
> 0256 Mbyte Memory                        CPU Geode LX 434 Mhz
>
> Pri Mas  SILICONSYSTEMS INC 1GB          LBA Xlt 1015-32-63  1023 Mbyte
>
> Slot   Vend Dev  ClassRev Cmd  Stat CL LT HT  Base1    Base2   Int
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> 0:01:2 1022 2082 10100000 0006 0220 08 00 00 A0000000 00000000 10
> 0:06:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E101 A0004000 11
> 0:07:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E201 A0004100 05
> 0:08:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E301 A0004200 09
> 0:09:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E401 A0004300 12
> 0:20:0 1022 2090 06010003 0009 02A0 08 40 80 00006001 00006101
> 0:20:2 1022 209A 01018001 0005 02A0 08 00 00 00000000 00000000
> 0:21:0 1022 2094 0C031002 0006 0230 08 00 80 A0005000 00000000 15
> 0:21:1 1022 2095 0C032002 0006 0230 08 00 00 A0006000 00000000 15
>
>  1 Seconds to automatic boot.   Press Ctrl-P for entering Monitor.
> Using drive 0, partition 3.
> Loading...
> probing: pc0 com0 com1 pci mem[639K 255M a20=on]
> disk: hd0+
>
>>>OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 3.01
>
> -
> com0: 19200 baud
> switching console to com0
>
>>>OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 3.01
>
> boot>
> booting hd0a:/bsd: 5913424+1004644 [52+306864+287943]=0x72a4d4
> entry point at 0x200120ªÿ
> [ using 595232 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ]
> Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
>         The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
> Copyright (c) 1995-2008 OpenBSD. All rights reserved.  http://www.OpenBSD.org
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:44:39AM -0700, Chris Babcock wrote:
>
>>Eternity wrote:
>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>I have a problem with a whole bunch of NET5501:s. I have read some posts
>>>with similar problems, but not exactly this, I think, so I post my
>>>problem:
>>>
>>>On a Cold boot my CF Card is detected:
>>>
>>>Pri Mas  CF CARD 1GB                     LBA Xlt 983-32-63  990 Mbyte
>>>
>>>Then at boot:
>>>
>>>GRUB Loading stage1.5.
>>>
>>>GRUB loading, please wait...
>>>Error 25
>>>
>>>---
>>>
>>>If I press ctrl-p, and at once in combios makes a "reboot" everything
>>>works OK, and GRUB can load correctly.
>>>
>>>I have used lots of net5501 boxes with this distribution (same image file
>>>I write to the CF card) without any trouble at all. I have tried upgrading
>>>BIOS to 1.33c version, but no change.
>>>
>>>Any ideas? Could it be the flash card? Or some defect on these batch of
>>>boards?
>>>
>>
>>It could be the flash or a defective board.  If you have a known working
>>  unit, try swapping the flash into it and see if you get the same
>>error.  If another known working unit does the same thing, you probably
>>have one of the 5501 boards with issues (RMA to resolve).  If the error
>>persists, it's probably bad CF.  One other possibility... Did you image
>>the CF or do the install from a different system?  If you did, there are
>>often disk geometry issues in the install, which can and often do cause
>>issues, esp with boot loaders.  The only safe way to make sure the
>>geometry is correct on a load is to load on the exact same type of
>>system (so in this case, another 5501).
>>
>>Grub manual error code link:
>>http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Stage1_002e5-errors
>>
>>According to the grub manual Error 25 in stage 1.5 is...
>>
>>25 : Disk read error
>>     This error is returned if there is a disk read error when trying to
>>probe or read data from a particular disk.
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Yes that is exactly what I see with my Transcend CF and FreeBSD 6.3

Steve

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Re: NET5501 Boot Problem

by Bill Maas-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Eternity,

In addition to everything proposed so far: take a look at "disk geometry
issues" on the Soekris Wiki. Those may also cause problems with GRUB.

If that is the problem, just boot with Lilo or Syslinux (which is the
smallest boot loader for Linux I think, an at least the easiest to
configure).

Bill

On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 17:35 +0200, Eternity wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I have a problem with a whole bunch of NET5501:s. I have read some posts
> with similar problems, but not exactly this, I think, so I post my
> problem:
>
> On a Cold boot my CF Card is detected:
>
> Pri Mas  CF CARD 1GB                     LBA Xlt 983-32-63  990 Mbyte
>
> Then at boot:
>
> GRUB Loading stage1.5.
>
> GRUB loading, please wait...
> Error 25
>
> ---
>
> If I press ctrl-p, and at once in combios makes a "reboot" everything
> works OK, and GRUB can load correctly.
>
> I have used lots of net5501 boxes with this distribution (same image file
> I write to the CF card) without any trouble at all. I have tried upgrading
> BIOS to 1.33c version, but no change.
>
> Any ideas? Could it be the flash card? Or some defect on these batch of
> boards?
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
>
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Re: NET5501 Boot Problem

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Hi!

Yes, I thought of that also, but I have used the same image on several
net5501 that is working just fine, so why not these? Also, if it was a
disk geometry problem - why would it work after a "warm reboot", but not
a "cold" one?

For me, it seems like either some problem with the net5501 itself or
that this series of flashcards are causing something to happen.

Maybe LILO or syslinux can solve this, but I would like to find out
why this happens. I am not so glad in having several images to deal with
when preparing the boxes..

Chris


On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, Bill Maas wrote:

> Hi Eternity,
>
> In addition to everything proposed so far: take a look at "disk geometry
> issues" on the Soekris Wiki. Those may also cause problems with GRUB.
>
> If that is the problem, just boot with Lilo or Syslinux (which is the
> smallest boot loader for Linux I think, an at least the easiest to
> configure).
>
> Bill
>
> On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 17:35 +0200, Eternity wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I have a problem with a whole bunch of NET5501:s. I have read some posts
>> with similar problems, but not exactly this, I think, so I post my
>> problem:
>>
>> On a Cold boot my CF Card is detected:
>>
>> Pri Mas  CF CARD 1GB                     LBA Xlt 983-32-63  990 Mbyte
>>
>> Then at boot:
>>
>> GRUB Loading stage1.5.
>>
>> GRUB loading, please wait...
>> Error 25
>>
>> ---
>>
>> If I press ctrl-p, and at once in combios makes a "reboot" everything
>> works OK, and GRUB can load correctly.
>>
>> I have used lots of net5501 boxes with this distribution (same image file
>> I write to the CF card) without any trouble at all. I have tried upgrading
>> BIOS to 1.33c version, but no change.
>>
>> Any ideas? Could it be the flash card? Or some defect on these batch of
>> boards?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chris
>>
>>
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Re: NET5501 Boot Problem

by Bill Maas-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Eternity,

On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 00:49 +0200, Eternity wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Yes, I thought of that also, but I have used the same image on several
> net5501 that is working just fine, so why not these? Also, if it was a
> disk geometry problem - why would it work after a "warm reboot", but not
> a "cold" one?
>
> For me, it seems like either some problem with the net5501 itself or
> that this series of flashcards are causing something to happen.

You're right, I think that the GRUB error code for disk geometry trouble
(which it sees as a "corrupted fs") is a different one. It's reported on
several occasions in the archives.

> Maybe LILO or syslinux can solve this, but I would like to find out
> why this happens. I am not so glad in having several images to deal with
> when preparing the boxes..

With those at least you never have to worry about DG trouble. Anyway,
I'm biased on this issue, I didn't like the way in which the otherwise
excellent Lilo was "obsoleted" in some GNU/Linux realms. I would use
Lilo in all cases, if only because I can't remember ever having seen a
posting about "Lilo unable to boot" on this list. GRUB on the other hand
is a regular visitor..;)

Bill

> Chris
>
>
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, Bill Maas wrote:
>
> > Hi Eternity,
> >
> > In addition to everything proposed so far: take a look at "disk geometry
> > issues" on the Soekris Wiki. Those may also cause problems with GRUB.
> >
> > If that is the problem, just boot with Lilo or Syslinux (which is the
> > smallest boot loader for Linux I think, an at least the easiest to
> > configure).
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 17:35 +0200, Eternity wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I have a problem with a whole bunch of NET5501:s. I have read some posts
> >> with similar problems, but not exactly this, I think, so I post my
> >> problem:
> >>
> >> On a Cold boot my CF Card is detected:
> >>
> >> Pri Mas  CF CARD 1GB                     LBA Xlt 983-32-63  990 Mbyte
> >>
> >> Then at boot:
> >>
> >> GRUB Loading stage1.5.
> >>
> >> GRUB loading, please wait...
> >> Error 25
> >>
> >> ---
> >>
> >> If I press ctrl-p, and at once in combios makes a "reboot" everything
> >> works OK, and GRUB can load correctly.
> >>
> >> I have used lots of net5501 boxes with this distribution (same image file
> >> I write to the CF card) without any trouble at all. I have tried upgrading
> >> BIOS to 1.33c version, but no change.
> >>
> >> Any ideas? Could it be the flash card? Or some defect on these batch of
> >> boards?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
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> >
>
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Hello,

Well I tried 1.33c on my 5501 with my Transcend TS4GCF266 CF and it made things
worst. I was unable to get FreeBSD to boot - it always hangs at mountroot saying it
can't find the root device.

When the 5501 is cold booted I get about a 10-15 sec pause before it recognizes the CF device
with either 1.33c or 1.33b. With both 133.b and 133.c it will start loading the FreeBSD kernel
then there will be a long pause FreeBSD is trying to detect the hard drive

atapci0: <AMD CS5536 UDMA100 controller> port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xe000-0xe00f at device 20.2 on pci0
ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0

then it will continue on detecting other devices and when it gets to the point to mount the root filesystem
it says it can't find it.

If at this point with 1.33b I press the reset button on the 5501 the Transcend CF is immediately recognized and
FreeBSD boots up to completion with no problems.

With 1.33c if I press the reset button - there again is a long pause during POST before the CF is recognized and
again FreeBSD hangs at can't mountroot.

I tried several time with 1.33c before downgrading the bios back to 1.33b which then immediately boot up fine.

There are voluminous specs for the Transcend CF online at the Transcend web site.

Steve

Wim Vandeputte mailinglist only wrote:

> That is a BIOS problem.
>
> You see this with 1.33c? Please send you info to soren@...
>
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 03:47:33PM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
>
>>Wim Vandeputte mailinglist only wrote:
>>
>>>hey,
>>>
>>>This is actually the same error you see with FreeBSD and OpenBSD when
>>>the BIOS has problems recognising the CF. You can spot it when there is
>>>a 20 second delay when detecting the CF and when the bootloader tries
>>>any disk activity
>>>
>>>comBIOS ver. 1.33c 20080626  Copyright (C) 2000-2008 Soekris Engineering.
>>>
>>>net5501
>>>
>>>0256 Mbyte Memory                        CPU Geode LX 434 Mhz
>>>
>>>Pri Mas  SILICONSYSTEMS INC 1GB          LBA Xlt 1015-32-63  1023 Mbyte
>>>
>>>Slot   Vend Dev  ClassRev Cmd  Stat CL LT HT  Base1    Base2   Int
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>0:01:2 1022 2082 10100000 0006 0220 08 00 00 A0000000 00000000 10
>>>0:06:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E101 A0004000 11
>>>0:07:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E201 A0004100 05
>>>0:08:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E301 A0004200 09
>>>0:09:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E401 A0004300 12
>>>0:20:0 1022 2090 06010003 0009 02A0 08 40 80 00006001 00006101
>>>0:20:2 1022 209A 01018001 0005 02A0 08 00 00 00000000 00000000
>>>0:21:0 1022 2094 0C031002 0006 0230 08 00 80 A0005000 00000000 15
>>>0:21:1 1022 2095 0C032002 0006 0230 08 00 00 A0006000 00000000 15
>>>
>>> 1 Seconds to automatic boot.   Press Ctrl-P for entering Monitor.
>>>Using drive 0, partition 3.
>>>Loading...
>>>probing: pc0 com0 com1 pci mem[639K 255M a20=on]
>>>disk: hd0+*
>>>
>>>
>>>>>OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 3.01
>>>
>>>open(hd0a:/etc/boot.conf): Unknown error: code 102
>>>boot> reboot
>>>Rebooting...
>>>exit
>>>
>>>
>>>POST: 012345689bcefghips1234ajklnopqr,,,tvwxy
>>>
>>>
>>>comBIOS ver. 1.33c 20080626  Copyright (C) 2000-2008 Soekris Engineering.
>>>
>>>net5501
>>>
>>>0256 Mbyte Memory                        CPU Geode LX 434 Mhz
>>>
>>>Pri Mas  SILICONSYSTEMS INC 1GB          LBA Xlt 1015-32-63  1023 Mbyte
>>>
>>>Slot   Vend Dev  ClassRev Cmd  Stat CL LT HT  Base1    Base2   Int
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>0:01:2 1022 2082 10100000 0006 0220 08 00 00 A0000000 00000000 10
>>>0:06:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E101 A0004000 11
>>>0:07:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E201 A0004100 05
>>>0:08:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E301 A0004200 09
>>>0:09:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E401 A0004300 12
>>>0:20:0 1022 2090 06010003 0009 02A0 08 40 80 00006001 00006101
>>>0:20:2 1022 209A 01018001 0005 02A0 08 00 00 00000000 00000000
>>>0:21:0 1022 2094 0C031002 0006 0230 08 00 80 A0005000 00000000 15
>>>0:21:1 1022 2095 0C032002 0006 0230 08 00 00 A0006000 00000000 15
>>>
>>> 1 Seconds to automatic boot.   Press Ctrl-P for entering Monitor.
>>>Using drive 0, partition 3.
>>>Loading...
>>>probing: pc0 com0 com1 pci mem[639K 255M a20=on]
>>>disk: hd0+
>>>
>>>
>>>>>OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 3.01
>>>
>>>-
>>>com0: 19200 baud
>>>switching console to com0
>>>
>>>
>>>>>OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 3.01
>>>
>>>boot>
>>>booting hd0a:/bsd: 5913424+1004644 [52+306864+287943]=0x72a4d4
>>>entry point at 0x200120??
>>>[ using 595232 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ]
>>>Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
>>>        The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
>>>Copyright (c) 1995-2008 OpenBSD. All rights reserved.  http://www.OpenBSD.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:44:39AM -0700, Chris Babcock wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Eternity wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>>I have a problem with a whole bunch of NET5501:s. I have read some posts
>>>>>with similar problems, but not exactly this, I think, so I post my
>>>>>problem:
>>>>>
>>>>>On a Cold boot my CF Card is detected:
>>>>>
>>>>>Pri Mas  CF CARD 1GB                     LBA Xlt 983-32-63  990 Mbyte
>>>>>
>>>>>Then at boot:
>>>>>
>>>>>GRUB Loading stage1.5.
>>>>>
>>>>>GRUB loading, please wait...
>>>>>Error 25
>>>>>
>>>>>---
>>>>>
>>>>>If I press ctrl-p, and at once in combios makes a "reboot" everything
>>>>>works OK, and GRUB can load correctly.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have used lots of net5501 boxes with this distribution (same image file
>>>>>I write to the CF card) without any trouble at all. I have tried upgrading
>>>>>BIOS to 1.33c version, but no change.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any ideas? Could it be the flash card? Or some defect on these batch of
>>>>>boards?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It could be the flash or a defective board.  If you have a known working
>>>> unit, try swapping the flash into it and see if you get the same
>>>>error.  If another known working unit does the same thing, you probably
>>>>have one of the 5501 boards with issues (RMA to resolve).  If the error
>>>>persists, it's probably bad CF.  One other possibility... Did you image
>>>>the CF or do the install from a different system?  If you did, there are
>>>>often disk geometry issues in the install, which can and often do cause
>>>>issues, esp with boot loaders.  The only safe way to make sure the
>>>>geometry is correct on a load is to load on the exact same type of
>>>>system (so in this case, another 5501).
>>>>
>>>>Grub manual error code link:
>>>>http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Stage1_002e5-errors
>>>>
>>>>According to the grub manual Error 25 in stage 1.5 is...
>>>>
>>>>25 : Disk read error
>>>>    This error is returned if there is a disk read error when trying to
>>>>probe or read data from a particular disk.
>>>
>>>http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
>>
>>
>>Yes that is exactly what I see with my Transcend CF and FreeBSD 6.3
>>
>>Steve
>>
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Re: NET5501 Boot Problem

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After some testing I found out that Sandisk Ultra II 2GB Flash worked
perfect. In my old installations I used a smaller Sandisk that also
worked. Kingston flashcards are no good then.

Chris

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Steve Clark wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Well I tried 1.33c on my 5501 with my Transcend TS4GCF266 CF and it made things
> worst. I was unable to get FreeBSD to boot - it always hangs at mountroot saying it
> can't find the root device.
>
> When the 5501 is cold booted I get about a 10-15 sec pause before it recognizes the CF device
> with either 1.33c or 1.33b. With both 133.b and 133.c it will start loading the FreeBSD kernel
> then there will be a long pause FreeBSD is trying to detect the hard drive
>
> atapci0: <AMD CS5536 UDMA100 controller> port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xe000-0xe00f at device 20.2 on pci0
> ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
> ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
>
> then it will continue on detecting other devices and when it gets to the point to mount the root filesystem
> it says it can't find it.
>
> If at this point with 1.33b I press the reset button on the 5501 the Transcend CF is immediately recognized and
> FreeBSD boots up to completion with no problems.
>
> With 1.33c if I press the reset button - there again is a long pause during POST before the CF is recognized and
> again FreeBSD hangs at can't mountroot.
>
> I tried several time with 1.33c before downgrading the bios back to 1.33b which then immediately boot up fine.
>
> There are voluminous specs for the Transcend CF online at the Transcend web site.
>
> Steve
>
> Wim Vandeputte mailinglist only wrote:
>> That is a BIOS problem.
>>
>> You see this with 1.33c? Please send you info to soren@...
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 03:47:33PM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
>>
>>> Wim Vandeputte mailinglist only wrote:
>>>
>>>> hey,
>>>>
>>>> This is actually the same error you see with FreeBSD and OpenBSD when
>>>> the BIOS has problems recognising the CF. You can spot it when there is
>>>> a 20 second delay when detecting the CF and when the bootloader tries
>>>> any disk activity
>>>>
>>>> comBIOS ver. 1.33c 20080626  Copyright (C) 2000-2008 Soekris Engineering.
>>>>
>>>> net5501
>>>>
>>>> 0256 Mbyte Memory                        CPU Geode LX 434 Mhz
>>>>
>>>> Pri Mas  SILICONSYSTEMS INC 1GB          LBA Xlt 1015-32-63  1023 Mbyte
>>>>
>>>> Slot   Vend Dev  ClassRev Cmd  Stat CL LT HT  Base1    Base2   Int
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 0:01:2 1022 2082 10100000 0006 0220 08 00 00 A0000000 00000000 10
>>>> 0:06:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E101 A0004000 11
>>>> 0:07:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E201 A0004100 05
>>>> 0:08:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E301 A0004200 09
>>>> 0:09:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E401 A0004300 12
>>>> 0:20:0 1022 2090 06010003 0009 02A0 08 40 80 00006001 00006101
>>>> 0:20:2 1022 209A 01018001 0005 02A0 08 00 00 00000000 00000000
>>>> 0:21:0 1022 2094 0C031002 0006 0230 08 00 80 A0005000 00000000 15
>>>> 0:21:1 1022 2095 0C032002 0006 0230 08 00 00 A0006000 00000000 15
>>>>
>>>> 1 Seconds to automatic boot.   Press Ctrl-P for entering Monitor.
>>>> Using drive 0, partition 3.
>>>> Loading...
>>>> probing: pc0 com0 com1 pci mem[639K 255M a20=on]
>>>> disk: hd0+*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 3.01
>>>>
>>>> open(hd0a:/etc/boot.conf): Unknown error: code 102
>>>> boot> reboot
>>>> Rebooting...
>>>> exit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> POST: 012345689bcefghips1234ajklnopqr,,,tvwxy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> comBIOS ver. 1.33c 20080626  Copyright (C) 2000-2008 Soekris Engineering.
>>>>
>>>> net5501
>>>>
>>>> 0256 Mbyte Memory                        CPU Geode LX 434 Mhz
>>>>
>>>> Pri Mas  SILICONSYSTEMS INC 1GB          LBA Xlt 1015-32-63  1023 Mbyte
>>>>
>>>> Slot   Vend Dev  ClassRev Cmd  Stat CL LT HT  Base1    Base2   Int
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 0:01:2 1022 2082 10100000 0006 0220 08 00 00 A0000000 00000000 10
>>>> 0:06:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E101 A0004000 11
>>>> 0:07:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E201 A0004100 05
>>>> 0:08:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E301 A0004200 09
>>>> 0:09:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E401 A0004300 12
>>>> 0:20:0 1022 2090 06010003 0009 02A0 08 40 80 00006001 00006101
>>>> 0:20:2 1022 209A 01018001 0005 02A0 08 00 00 00000000 00000000
>>>> 0:21:0 1022 2094 0C031002 0006 0230 08 00 80 A0005000 00000000 15
>>>> 0:21:1 1022 2095 0C032002 0006 0230 08 00 00 A0006000 00000000 15
>>>>
>>>> 1 Seconds to automatic boot.   Press Ctrl-P for entering Monitor.
>>>> Using drive 0, partition 3.
>>>> Loading...
>>>> probing: pc0 com0 com1 pci mem[639K 255M a20=on]
>>>> disk: hd0+
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 3.01
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> com0: 19200 baud
>>>> switching console to com0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 3.01
>>>>
>>>> boot>
>>>> booting hd0a:/bsd: 5913424+1004644 [52+306864+287943]=0x72a4d4
>>>> entry point at 0x200120??
>>>> [ using 595232 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ]
>>>> Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
>>>>        The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
>>>> Copyright (c) 1995-2008 OpenBSD. All rights reserved.  http://www.OpenBSD.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:44:39AM -0700, Chris Babcock wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Eternity wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a problem with a whole bunch of NET5501:s. I have read some posts
>>>>>> with similar problems, but not exactly this, I think, so I post my
>>>>>> problem:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On a Cold boot my CF Card is detected:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pri Mas  CF CARD 1GB                     LBA Xlt 983-32-63  990 Mbyte
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then at boot:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GRUB Loading stage1.5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GRUB loading, please wait...
>>>>>> Error 25
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I press ctrl-p, and at once in combios makes a "reboot" everything
>>>>>> works OK, and GRUB can load correctly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have used lots of net5501 boxes with this distribution (same image file
>>>>>> I write to the CF card) without any trouble at all. I have tried upgrading
>>>>>> BIOS to 1.33c version, but no change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas? Could it be the flash card? Or some defect on these batch of
>>>>>> boards?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It could be the flash or a defective board.  If you have a known working
>>>>> unit, try swapping the flash into it and see if you get the same
>>>>> error.  If another known working unit does the same thing, you probably
>>>>> have one of the 5501 boards with issues (RMA to resolve).  If the error
>>>>> persists, it's probably bad CF.  One other possibility... Did you image
>>>>> the CF or do the install from a different system?  If you did, there are
>>>>> often disk geometry issues in the install, which can and often do cause
>>>>> issues, esp with boot loaders.  The only safe way to make sure the
>>>>> geometry is correct on a load is to load on the exact same type of
>>>>> system (so in this case, another 5501).
>>>>>
>>>>> Grub manual error code link:
>>>>> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Stage1_002e5-errors
>>>>>
>>>>> According to the grub manual Error 25 in stage 1.5 is...
>>>>>
>>>>> 25 : Disk read error
>>>>>    This error is returned if there is a disk read error when trying to
>>>>> probe or read data from a particular disk.
>>>>
>>>> http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes that is exactly what I see with my Transcend CF and FreeBSD 6.3
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
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Re: NET5501 Boot Problem

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Hello,

I have more information on the Soekris 5501  boot problem
using a Transcend TS4GCF266 CF.

I purchased a cheap SYBA IDE2UCF1 ide to compact flash adapter.
I installed my Transcend TS4GCF266 CF into and put in a system with
a pc with about a 5 year old mother board. The CF was recognize without
any problem and immediately boot FreeBSD without a hitch.

I also booted it up on a 2 year old Biostar TForce 6100-939 mainboard without a hitch.

To me this appears to point to a problem with the Soekris Combios or the Net 5501
hardwares implementation of its CF to IDE interface.

I know Soekris says use Sandisk but a 4 GB sandisk CF cost $10 more and is half as
fast as the Transcend - 20mbs vs 40mbs.

Steve

Steve Clark wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Well I tried 1.33c on my 5501 with my Transcend TS4GCF266 CF and it made things
> worst. I was unable to get FreeBSD to boot - it always hangs at mountroot saying it
> can't find the root device.
>
> When the 5501 is cold booted I get about a 10-15 sec pause before it recognizes the CF device
> with either 1.33c or 1.33b. With both 133.b and 133.c it will start loading the FreeBSD kernel
> then there will be a long pause FreeBSD is trying to detect the hard drive
>
> atapci0: <AMD CS5536 UDMA100 controller> port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xe000-0xe00f at device 20.2 on pci0
> ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
> ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
>
> then it will continue on detecting other devices and when it gets to the point to mount the root filesystem
> it says it can't find it.
>
> If at this point with 1.33b I press the reset button on the 5501 the Transcend CF is immediately recognized and
> FreeBSD boots up to completion with no problems.
>
> With 1.33c if I press the reset button - there again is a long pause during POST before the CF is recognized and
> again FreeBSD hangs at can't mountroot.
>
> I tried several time with 1.33c before downgrading the bios back to 1.33b which then immediately boot up fine.
>
> There are voluminous specs for the Transcend CF online at the Transcend web site.
>
> Steve
>
> Wim Vandeputte mailinglist only wrote:
>
>>That is a BIOS problem.
>>
>>You see this with 1.33c? Please send you info to soren@...
>>
>>On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 03:47:33PM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Wim Vandeputte mailinglist only wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>hey,
>>>>
>>>>This is actually the same error you see with FreeBSD and OpenBSD when
>>>>the BIOS has problems recognising the CF. You can spot it when there is
>>>>a 20 second delay when detecting the CF and when the bootloader tries
>>>>any disk activity
>>>>
>>>>comBIOS ver. 1.33c 20080626  Copyright (C) 2000-2008 Soekris Engineering.
>>>>
>>>>net5501
>>>>
>>>>0256 Mbyte Memory                        CPU Geode LX 434 Mhz
>>>>
>>>>Pri Mas  SILICONSYSTEMS INC 1GB          LBA Xlt 1015-32-63  1023 Mbyte
>>>>
>>>>Slot   Vend Dev  ClassRev Cmd  Stat CL LT HT  Base1    Base2   Int
>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>0:01:2 1022 2082 10100000 0006 0220 08 00 00 A0000000 00000000 10
>>>>0:06:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E101 A0004000 11
>>>>0:07:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E201 A0004100 05
>>>>0:08:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E301 A0004200 09
>>>>0:09:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E401 A0004300 12
>>>>0:20:0 1022 2090 06010003 0009 02A0 08 40 80 00006001 00006101
>>>>0:20:2 1022 209A 01018001 0005 02A0 08 00 00 00000000 00000000
>>>>0:21:0 1022 2094 0C031002 0006 0230 08 00 80 A0005000 00000000 15
>>>>0:21:1 1022 2095 0C032002 0006 0230 08 00 00 A0006000 00000000 15
>>>>
>>>>1 Seconds to automatic boot.   Press Ctrl-P for entering Monitor.
>>>>Using drive 0, partition 3.
>>>>Loading...
>>>>probing: pc0 com0 com1 pci mem[639K 255M a20=on]
>>>>disk: hd0+*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 3.01
>>>>
>>>>open(hd0a:/etc/boot.conf): Unknown error: code 102
>>>>boot> reboot
>>>>Rebooting...
>>>>exit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>POST: 012345689bcefghips1234ajklnopqr,,,tvwxy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>comBIOS ver. 1.33c 20080626  Copyright (C) 2000-2008 Soekris Engineering.
>>>>
>>>>net5501
>>>>
>>>>0256 Mbyte Memory                        CPU Geode LX 434 Mhz
>>>>
>>>>Pri Mas  SILICONSYSTEMS INC 1GB          LBA Xlt 1015-32-63  1023 Mbyte
>>>>
>>>>Slot   Vend Dev  ClassRev Cmd  Stat CL LT HT  Base1    Base2   Int
>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>0:01:2 1022 2082 10100000 0006 0220 08 00 00 A0000000 00000000 10
>>>>0:06:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E101 A0004000 11
>>>>0:07:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E201 A0004100 05
>>>>0:08:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E301 A0004200 09
>>>>0:09:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E401 A0004300 12
>>>>0:20:0 1022 2090 06010003 0009 02A0 08 40 80 00006001 00006101
>>>>0:20:2 1022 209A 01018001 0005 02A0 08 00 00 00000000 00000000
>>>>0:21:0 1022 2094 0C031002 0006 0230 08 00 80 A0005000 00000000 15
>>>>0:21:1 1022 2095 0C032002 0006 0230 08 00 00 A0006000 00000000 15
>>>>
>>>>1 Seconds to automatic boot.   Press Ctrl-P for entering Monitor.
>>>>Using drive 0, partition 3.
>>>>Loading...
>>>>probing: pc0 com0 com1 pci mem[639K 255M a20=on]
>>>>disk: hd0+
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 3.01
>>>>
>>>>-
>>>>com0: 19200 baud
>>>>switching console to com0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 3.01
>>>>
>>>>boot>
>>>>booting hd0a:/bsd: 5913424+1004644 [52+306864+287943]=0x72a4d4
>>>>entry point at 0x200120??
>>>>[ using 595232 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ]
>>>>Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
>>>>       The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
>>>>Copyright (c) 1995-2008 OpenBSD. All rights reserved.  http://www.OpenBSD.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:44:39AM -0700, Chris Babcock wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Eternity wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a problem with a whole bunch of NET5501:s. I have read some posts
>>>>>>with similar problems, but not exactly this, I think, so I post my
>>>>>>problem:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On a Cold boot my CF Card is detected:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pri Mas  CF CARD 1GB                     LBA Xlt 983-32-63  990 Mbyte
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Then at boot:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>GRUB Loading stage1.5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>GRUB loading, please wait...
>>>>>>Error 25
>>>>>>
>>>>>>---
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If I press ctrl-p, and at once in combios makes a "reboot" everything
>>>>>>works OK, and GRUB can load correctly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have used lots of net5501 boxes with this distribution (same image file
>>>>>>I write to the CF card) without any trouble at all. I have tried upgrading
>>>>>>BIOS to 1.33c version, but no change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any ideas? Could it be the flash card? Or some defect on these batch of
>>>>>>boards?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It could be the flash or a defective board.  If you have a known working
>>>>>unit, try swapping the flash into it and see if you get the same
>>>>>error.  If another known working unit does the same thing, you probably
>>>>>have one of the 5501 boards with issues (RMA to resolve).  If the error
>>>>>persists, it's probably bad CF.  One other possibility... Did you image
>>>>>the CF or do the install from a different system?  If you did, there are
>>>>>often disk geometry issues in the install, which can and often do cause
>>>>>issues, esp with boot loaders.  The only safe way to make sure the
>>>>>geometry is correct on a load is to load on the exact same type of
>>>>>system (so in this case, another 5501).
>>>>>
>>>>>Grub manual error code link:
>>>>>http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Stage1_002e5-errors
>>>>>
>>>>>According to the grub manual Error 25 in stage 1.5 is...
>>>>>
>>>>>25 : Disk read error
>>>>>   This error is returned if there is a disk read error when trying to
>>>>>probe or read data from a particular disk.
>>>>
>>>>http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes that is exactly what I see with my Transcend CF and FreeBSD 6.3
>>>
>>>Steve
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
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>>>Soekris-tech@...
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>>
>>
>>
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Re: NET5501 Boot Problem

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Hello,

Again replying to my own E-Mail - I attached the SYBA IDE2UCF1 to
the Net 5501 ide interface it also booted without the slightest problem
using the Transcend CF.

Steve


Steve Clark wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have more information on the Soekris 5501  boot problem
> using a Transcend TS4GCF266 CF.
>
> I purchased a cheap SYBA IDE2UCF1 ide