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Re: NEGATIVE COMMENTS RE: FLASH ARCHITECT POSITION IN TX
by Andrea Skinner
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There is no need for me to reply to your statements, but if you want a
statement or a recollection of the events, you were late for the interview. Regardless of the circumstances, bad weather, traffic, etc. The client had other meetings to attend to and was not able to meet with you after you were late. The President of our company stepped up to handle the situation with you because you and your wife both were calling myself and the client leaving messages that were inappropriate. I do not want any further communications with you. At some point, you need to look at the damage you are causing by writing the messages that you write on the boards, especially when it is in an industry that you provide services in. As far as I am concerned, this should be removed from the lists and Google, etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vincent Cannady" <vnc@...> To: "CF-Jobs-Talk" <cf-jobs-talk@...> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:57 PM Subject: NEGATIVE COMMENTS RE: FLASH ARCHITECT POSITION IN TX > Hello My Fellow IT Pros > This is my last post on this subject. > > I have but three things to say! > Did the recruiter DENY any of my statements? > Did they say they paid me for my time or mileage? > Or that I did not drive 600 Miles for an interview that did not happen? > Did she deny that I had to deal with their CEO(Could I have done that with > TekSystems CEO)? > > > Finally all life is not positive, and as a responsible member of this > Mailing list I ONLY post on things that I have experience with. Negative > or > not, it is our right. > > When I posted my comments I opened myself to negative comments- Do you see > me complaining (THIS TIME). > > > Yes I have made negative comments, so has many others- this is the very > reason CF-Jobs Talk Mailing list exists is to voice your job experience or > job hunting experiences good and BAD > > I followed protocol I did not reply to the CF- Jobs list > > I did not slander anyone I told of my personal experiences with a company > that made a public statement about a job on the CF-Jobs list, > I did not say DON'T WORK WITH That company. I said make sure you know all > the facts before you jump in > > > I posted my personal experience, plain and simple. > > ANYONE NOT WANTING NEGATIVE POSTS THERE IS AN UNSUBSCRIBE LINK, > > SORRY, THAT IS THE END OF THIS MATTER > > MICHAEL COULD KILL MY POST AND REMOVE IT FROM GOOGLE AS WELL, I HAVE MADE > MY > POINT! > -----Original Message----- > From: cf-jobs-talk [mailto:cf-jobs-talk@...] > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:00 PM > To: cf-jobs-talk > Subject: ColdFusion Jobs Talk (CF-Jobs-Talk): Digest every 2 hours > > > ColdFusion Jobs Talk (CF-Jobs-Talk) 03-Jul-08 > Issue:363 > In this issue: > NEGATIVE COMMENTS RE: FLASH ARCHITECT POSITION IN TX > Watchout for this job "FLASH ARCHITECT POSITION IN TX" > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3901 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=17837.14401.11 |
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Re: NEGATIVE COMMENTS RE: FLASH ARCHITECT POSITION IN TX
by Adam Reynolds
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Andrea et al,
I do think this is a bit public and without knowing the full situation it is difficult to judge but from what I can determine from this spat: The critical issue here is that your company offered to reimburse him for travel costs. As to why he had to do a drive 1200 mile round trip and not fly (and provide hotel accommodation for the night before the interview) is a bit strange. This may have been your decision not to offer flight/hotel or drive/hotel or he chose to drive up and do the interview on the same day, which I would never consider doing and indicated by the fact he was late for his interview. It is at this point the relationship/interview process got messed up. Somebody made a poor decision. Whoever it is I hope has learnt from this experience. Candidates need to arrive fresh and ready for an interview, not messed up by a 8+ hour drive before hand either through choice or by not being offered a hotel package. However if you did offer to reimburse the individual for his travel costs and you actually interviewed him, no matter how badly the interview went, he is due his travel costs. The rest is just noise. Regards, Adam Andrea Skinner wrote: > There is no need for me to reply to your statements, but if you want a > statement or a recollection of the events, you were late for the interview. > Regardless of the circumstances, bad weather, traffic, etc. The client had > other meetings to attend to and was not able to meet with you after you were > late. The President of our company stepped up to handle the situation with > you because you and your wife both were calling myself and the client > leaving messages that were inappropriate. I do not want any further > communications with you. At some point, you need to look at the damage you > are causing by writing the messages that you write on the boards, especially > when it is in an industry that you provide services in. > > As far as I am concerned, this should be removed from the lists and Google, > etc. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vincent Cannady" <vnc@...> > To: "CF-Jobs-Talk" <cf-jobs-talk@...> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:57 PM > Subject: NEGATIVE COMMENTS RE: FLASH ARCHITECT POSITION IN TX > > > >> Hello My Fellow IT Pros >> This is my last post on this subject. >> >> I have but three things to say! >> Did the recruiter DENY any of my statements? >> Did they say they paid me for my time or mileage? >> Or that I did not drive 600 Miles for an interview that did not happen? >> Did she deny that I had to deal with their CEO(Could I have done that with >> TekSystems CEO)? >> >> >> Finally all life is not positive, and as a responsible member of this >> Mailing list I ONLY post on things that I have experience with. Negative >> or >> not, it is our right. >> >> When I posted my comments I opened myself to negative comments- Do you see >> me complaining (THIS TIME). >> >> >> Yes I have made negative comments, so has many others- this is the very >> reason CF-Jobs Talk Mailing list exists is to voice your job experience or >> job hunting experiences good and BAD >> >> I followed protocol I did not reply to the CF- Jobs list >> >> I did not slander anyone I told of my personal experiences with a company >> that made a public statement about a job on the CF-Jobs list, >> I did not say DON'T WORK WITH That company. I said make sure you know all >> the facts before you jump in >> >> >> I posted my personal experience, plain and simple. >> >> ANYONE NOT WANTING NEGATIVE POSTS THERE IS AN UNSUBSCRIBE LINK, >> >> SORRY, THAT IS THE END OF THIS MATTER >> >> MICHAEL COULD KILL MY POST AND REMOVE IT FROM GOOGLE AS WELL, I HAVE MADE >> MY >> POINT! >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cf-jobs-talk [mailto:cf-jobs-talk@...] >> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:00 PM >> To: cf-jobs-talk >> Subject: ColdFusion Jobs Talk (CF-Jobs-Talk): Digest every 2 hours >> >> >> ColdFusion Jobs Talk (CF-Jobs-Talk) 03-Jul-08 >> Issue:363 >> In this issue: >> NEGATIVE COMMENTS RE: FLASH ARCHITECT POSITION IN TX >> Watchout for this job "FLASH ARCHITECT POSITION IN TX" >> >> >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3906 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=17837.14401.11 |
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RE: NEGATIVE COMMENTS RE: FLASH ARCHITECT POSITION IN TX
by Wallach, Levi
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I know this thread is supposed to be closed, but this seems like a decent way to salvage it a bit and make some use out of it. I agree with the sentiments below but wanted to add two cents. Completely theoretically speaking, I would think that if a company promised reimbursement but then decided not to interview for WHATEVER reason (and the prospective employee is able, even if late), they still have an obligation to reimburse, unless they specifically outlined the conditions of that reimbursement to the employee. This also kind of suggests that for such things where money is involved, you really need some kind of agreement in writing signed by both parties outlining what is expected and what may make the agreement null and void. Then at least there wouldn't be any unexpected surprises on either side...
Levi > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:adam@...] > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 8:14 AM > To: CF-Jobs-Talk > Subject: Re: NEGATIVE COMMENTS RE: FLASH ARCHITECT POSITION IN TX > > Andrea et al, > I do think this is a bit public and without knowing the full situation > it is difficult to judge but from what I can determine from this spat: > > The critical issue here is that your company offered to reimburse him > for travel costs. > > As to why he had to do a drive 1200 mile round trip and not fly (and > provide hotel accommodation for the night before the interview) is a > bit > strange. This may have been your decision not to offer flight/hotel or > drive/hotel or he chose to drive up and do the interview on the same > day, which I would never consider doing and indicated by the fact he > was > late for his interview. It is at this point the relationship/interview > process got messed up. > > Somebody made a poor decision. Whoever it is I hope has learnt from > this > experience. Candidates need to arrive fresh and ready for an interview, > not messed up by a 8+ hour drive before hand either through choice or > by > not being offered a hotel package. > > However if you did offer to reimburse the individual for his travel > costs and you actually interviewed him, no matter how badly the > interview went, he is due his travel costs. The rest is just noise. > > > Regards, > Adam > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3907 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=17837.14401.11 |
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