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by Jerry Feldman-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Mozy is a free (up to 2GB) online backup system, owned by EMC. They
have both Windows and Mac clients. I was wondering if anyone on this
list has used or investigated Mozy, and if so, have you been able to
backup from Linux.

http://mozy.com/

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Re: Mozy

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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Jerry Feldman wrote:

> Mozy is a free (up to 2GB) online backup system, owned by EMC. They
> have both Windows and Mac clients. I was wondering if anyone on this
> list has used or investigated Mozy, and if so, have you been able to
> backup from Linux.

I installed this on a friends Windows laptop. It does not appear to
support any sort of Unix client, and I would be very surprised if it ran
under Wine. It does quite a bit of analysis on your PC data before
uploading it, presumably so that deduplication occurs before uploading.

It runs in the background spontaneously and was quite easy to set up.

We were paying clients, and that may have been a problem, since we signed
up for a commercial account when the proper account was non-profit. The
price was pretty similar, so I don't know what the reason for the
distinction was. In any case, they insisted and switched us to the
different type of account after a month of good service. The new
account never functioned as a backup, but it did complain every few
minutes that we were behind on our backups. I spent quite a bit of time
trying to make it work, and then trying to remove it but failed at both,
Eventually I complained to the right person and they turned it off
remotely, cancelled the service and refunded her money.

Daniel Feenberg
>
> http://mozy.com/
>
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Re: Mozy

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Daniel Feenberg wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Jerry Feldman wrote:
>
>> Mozy is a free (up to 2GB) online backup system, owned by EMC. They
>> have both Windows and Mac clients. I was wondering if anyone on this
>> list has used or investigated Mozy, and if so, have you been able to
>> backup from Linux.
>
> I installed this on a friends Windows laptop. It does not appear to
> support any sort of Unix client, and I would be very surprised if it
> ran under Wine. It does quite a bit of analysis on your PC data before
> uploading it, presumably so that deduplication occurs before uploading.
>
> It runs in the background spontaneously and was quite easy to set up.
>
> We were paying clients, and that may have been a problem, since we
> signed up for a commercial account when the proper account was
> non-profit. The price was pretty similar, so I don't know what the
> reason for the distinction was. In any case, they insisted and
> switched us to the different type of account after a month of good
> service. The new account never functioned as a backup, but it did
> complain every few minutes that we were behind on our backups. I spent
> quite a bit of time trying to make it work, and then trying to remove
> it but failed at both, Eventually I complained to the right person and
> they turned it off remotely, cancelled the service and refunded her
> money.
>
> Daniel Feenberg
>>
>> http://mozy.com/
Check out rsync.net

It is not free, but if you are backing up only a couple of gig it cost
something like $5/mo.

Carbonite costs $50/yr for unlimited MS Windows backup. I do not know
what constraints are in place to protect against people going wild on
their storage system.

rsync is not as simple as Carbonite to administer nor as elegant, but it
is not too too bad.

I think I watched Revision3 Techzilla compare the available online
backup services last fall or there abouts (episodes 13 & 16 - I just
googled). At least they talked about them. It looks like they did not
discuss rsync. I must have settled on rsync for the from some other
information. rsync has been around awhile.

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Re: Mozy

by Jerry Feldman-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Mozy is free if you are backing up <= 2GB. If you backup more it costs
$4.95/Mo. (non-commercial)

 On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:44:34 -0400
Al Wheeler <alfred_j_wheeler@...> wrote:

> Daniel Feenberg wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Jerry Feldman wrote:
> >
> >> Mozy is a free (up to 2GB) online backup system, owned by EMC. They
> >> have both Windows and Mac clients. I was wondering if anyone on this
> >> list has used or investigated Mozy, and if so, have you been able to
> >> backup from Linux.
> >
> > I installed this on a friends Windows laptop. It does not appear to
> > support any sort of Unix client, and I would be very surprised if it
> > ran under Wine. It does quite a bit of analysis on your PC data before
> > uploading it, presumably so that deduplication occurs before uploading.
> >
> > It runs in the background spontaneously and was quite easy to set up.
> >
> > We were paying clients, and that may have been a problem, since we
> > signed up for a commercial account when the proper account was
> > non-profit. The price was pretty similar, so I don't know what the
> > reason for the distinction was. In any case, they insisted and
> > switched us to the different type of account after a month of good
> > service. The new account never functioned as a backup, but it did
> > complain every few minutes that we were behind on our backups. I spent
> > quite a bit of time trying to make it work, and then trying to remove
> > it but failed at both, Eventually I complained to the right person and
> > they turned it off remotely, cancelled the service and refunded her
> > money.
> >
> > Daniel Feenberg
> >>
> >> http://mozy.com/
> Check out rsync.net
>
> It is not free, but if you are backing up only a couple of gig it cost
> something like $5/mo.
>
> Carbonite costs $50/yr for unlimited MS Windows backup. I do not know
> what constraints are in place to protect against people going wild on
> their storage system.
>
> rsync is not as simple as Carbonite to administer nor as elegant, but it
> is not too too bad.
>
> I think I watched Revision3 Techzilla compare the available online
> backup services last fall or there abouts (episodes 13 & 16 - I just
> googled). At least they talked about them. It looks like they did not
> discuss rsync. I must have settled on rsync for the from some other
> information. rsync has been around awhile.
>
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Re: Mozy

by Al Wheeler-2 :: Rate this Message:

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rsync's basic dollar sixty a month does not seem like much, but it is
per gigabyte with a minimum of three gigabytes. In a way, the pro-rated
cost disciplines you to consider what you really need to keep on your
system or protect from loss. I set my account to six gig to start. I am
still in the process of determining if it is too much or too little..


<QUOTE>
Account Details

- Your account includes unlimited inbound and outbound data transfer
- IPV4 and IPV6 network connectivity
- Automate with SSH keys
- Remote SSH commands (md5, mv, cp, rm, svnserve, dd, etc.) supported
- Multiple logins and custom access/permissions
- Encrypted Filesystem Support

<SNIP>

Discounts exist for open source developers and educators/students
</QUOTE>


http://www.rsync.net/products/index.html



Jerry Feldman wrote:

> Mozy is free if you are backing up <= 2GB. If you backup more it costs
> $4.95/Mo. (non-commercial)
>
>  On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:44:34 -0400
> Al Wheeler <alfred_j_wheeler@...> wrote:
>
>  
>> Daniel Feenberg wrote:
>>
>>    
>>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Jerry Feldman wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>> Mozy is a free (up to 2GB) online backup system, owned by EMC. They
>>>> have both Windows and Mac clients. I was wondering if anyone on this
>>>> list has used or investigated Mozy, and if so, have you been able to
>>>> backup from Linux.
>>>>        
>>> I installed this on a friends Windows laptop. It does not appear to
>>> support any sort of Unix client, and I would be very surprised if it
>>> ran under Wine. It does quite a bit of analysis on your PC data before
>>> uploading it, presumably so that deduplication occurs before uploading.
>>>
>>> It runs in the background spontaneously and was quite easy to set up.
>>>
>>> We were paying clients, and that may have been a problem, since we
>>> signed up for a commercial account when the proper account was
>>> non-profit. The price was pretty similar, so I don't know what the
>>> reason for the distinction was. In any case, they insisted and
>>> switched us to the different type of account after a month of good
>>> service. The new account never functioned as a backup, but it did
>>> complain every few minutes that we were behind on our backups. I spent
>>> quite a bit of time trying to make it work, and then trying to remove
>>> it but failed at both, Eventually I complained to the right person and
>>> they turned it off remotely, cancelled the service and refunded her
>>> money.
>>>
>>> Daniel Feenberg
>>>      
>>>> http://mozy.com/
>>>>        
>> Check out rsync.net
>>
>> It is not free, but if you are backing up only a couple of gig it cost
>> something like $5/mo.
>>
>> Carbonite costs $50/yr for unlimited MS Windows backup. I do not know
>> what constraints are in place to protect against people going wild on
>> their storage system.
>>
>> rsync is not as simple as Carbonite to administer nor as elegant, but it
>> is not too too bad.
>>
>> I think I watched Revision3 Techzilla compare the available online
>> backup services last fall or there abouts (episodes 13 & 16 - I just
>> googled). At least they talked about them. It looks like they did not
>> discuss rsync. I must have settled on rsync for the from some other
>> information. rsync has been around awhile.
>>
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Re: Mozy

by Jerry Feldman-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Sounds like a decent service.
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:57:47 -0400
Al Wheeler <alfred_j_wheeler@...> wrote:

> rsync's basic dollar sixty a month does not seem like much, but it is
> per gigabyte with a minimum of three gigabytes. In a way, the pro-rated
> cost disciplines you to consider what you really need to keep on your
> system or protect from loss. I set my account to six gig to start. I am
> still in the process of determining if it is too much or too little..
>
>
> <QUOTE>
> Account Details
>
> - Your account includes unlimited inbound and outbound data transfer
> - IPV4 and IPV6 network connectivity
> - Automate with SSH keys
> - Remote SSH commands (md5, mv, cp, rm, svnserve, dd, etc.) supported
> - Multiple logins and custom access/permissions
> - Encrypted Filesystem Support
>
> <SNIP>
>
> Discounts exist for open source developers and educators/students
> </QUOTE>
>
>
> http://www.rsync.net/products/index.html
>
>
>
> Jerry Feldman wrote:
>
> > Mozy is free if you are backing up <= 2GB. If you backup more it costs
> > $4.95/Mo. (non-commercial)
> >
> >  On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:44:34 -0400
> > Al Wheeler <alfred_j_wheeler@...> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >> Daniel Feenberg wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Jerry Feldman wrote:
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>> Mozy is a free (up to 2GB) online backup system, owned by EMC. They
> >>>> have both Windows and Mac clients. I was wondering if anyone on this
> >>>> list has used or investigated Mozy, and if so, have you been able to
> >>>> backup from Linux.
> >>>>        
> >>> I installed this on a friends Windows laptop. It does not appear to
> >>> support any sort of Unix client, and I would be very surprised if it
> >>> ran under Wine. It does quite a bit of analysis on your PC data before
> >>> uploading it, presumably so that deduplication occurs before uploading.
> >>>
> >>> It runs in the background spontaneously and was quite easy to set up.
> >>>
> >>> We were paying clients, and that may have been a problem, since we
> >>> signed up for a commercial account when the proper account was
> >>> non-profit. The price was pretty similar, so I don't know what the
> >>> reason for the distinction was. In any case, they insisted and
> >>> switched us to the different type of account after a month of good
> >>> service. The new account never functioned as a backup, but it did
> >>> complain every few minutes that we were behind on our backups. I spent
> >>> quite a bit of time trying to make it work, and then trying to remove
> >>> it but failed at both, Eventually I complained to the right person and
> >>> they turned it off remotely, cancelled the service and refunded her
> >>> money.
> >>>
> >>> Daniel Feenberg
> >>>      
> >>>> http://mozy.com/
> >>>>        
> >> Check out rsync.net
> >>
> >> It is not free, but if you are backing up only a couple of gig it cost
> >> something like $5/mo.
> >>
> >> Carbonite costs $50/yr for unlimited MS Windows backup. I do not know
> >> what constraints are in place to protect against people going wild on
> >> their storage system.
> >>
> >> rsync is not as simple as Carbonite to administer nor as elegant, but it
> >> is not too too bad.
> >>
> >> I think I watched Revision3 Techzilla compare the available online
> >> backup services last fall or there abouts (episodes 13 & 16 - I just
> >> googled). At least they talked about them. It looks like they did not
> >> discuss rsync. I must have settled on rsync for the from some other
> >> information. rsync has been around awhile.
> >>
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Re: Mozy

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On Friday 04 July 2008, Al Wheeler wrote:
> rsync's basic dollar sixty a month does not seem like much, but it is
> per gigabyte with a minimum of three gigabytes. In a way, the pro-rated
> cost disciplines you to consider what you really need to keep on your
> system or protect from loss. I set my account to six gig to start. I am
> still in the process of determining if it is too much or too little..

Agreement on the awesomeness of rsync.net.
Really great customer support as well. Engineers write back.

B

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