Moving cursor automatically

[mmk]

Is there a way to tell the cursor to move to the beginning of the
message on replying or forwarding?

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[Holger Berndt]

On Fr, 18.07.2008 15:02, Michael Kifer wrote:

>Is there a way to tell the cursor to move to the beginning of the
>message on replying or forwarding?

%X in the templates stands for cursor position.

Holger

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[Paul-32]

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:02:35 -0400
Michael Kifer <kifer@...> wrote:

> Is there a way to tell the cursor to move to the beginning of the
> message on replying or forwarding?

Use %X or %cursor in your templates. (Sounds suspiciously like a top-posting
request to me :))

best regards

Paul

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[Brad Rogers]

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:06:30 +0100
Paul <claws@...> wrote:

Hello Paul,

> Use %X or %cursor in your templates. (Sounds suspiciously like a
> top-posting request to me :))
 
I know you're joking, but to me, it seems that putting the cursor at
the start of quoted text is the more sensible option, since that's more
likely to be the text that's least relevant to the reply.

Obviously, that's not always the case, but would have been for this
message, had I not highlighted the text I wished to reply to in the
message view first.

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[Fenris]

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:28:25 +0100
Brad Rogers <brad@...> wrote:

> > Use %X or %cursor in your templates. (Sounds suspiciously like a
> > top-posting request to me :))
>  
> I know you're joking, but to me, it seems that putting the cursor at
> the start of quoted text is the more sensible option, since that's more
> likely to be the text that's least relevant to the reply.

And thus probably needs to be trimmed.....

>
> Obviously, that's not always the case, but would have been for this
> message, had I not highlighted the text I wished to reply to in the
> message view first.
>

That's another way of trimming.

Now, all we need is a way of organising enforcement with a Trident
missile interface or something similar.

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[Brad Rogers]

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:06:28 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm@...> wrote:

Hello Brian,

> And thus probably needs to be trimmed.....

Yes.  I neglected to mention that fact.   :-(

> > Obviously, that's not always the case, but would have been for this
> > message, had I not highlighted the text I wished to reply to in the
> > message view first.
> That's another way of trimming.

Indeed.

> Now, all we need is a way of organising enforcement with a Trident
> missile interface or something similar.

Oh, don't tempt me.   :-)

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[mmk]

Thank you!

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:05:59 +0200
Holger Berndt <berndth@...> wrote:

> On Fr, 18.07.2008 15:02, Michael Kifer wrote:
>
> >Is there a way to tell the cursor to move to the beginning of the
> >message on replying or forwarding?
>
> %X in the templates stands for cursor position.
>
> Holger
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[Fenris]

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:29:23 -0400
Michael Kifer <kifer@...> wrote:

> Thank you!
>
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:05:59 +0200
> Holger Berndt <berndth@...> wrote:
>

Ooooh, bad juju!

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[Paul-32]

A3: Please.
Q3: Should I avoid top posting on this mailing list?

A2: Because, by reversing the order of a conversation, it leaves the
    reader without much context, and makes them read a message in an
    unnatural order.
Q2: Why is top posting irritating?

A1: It is the practice of putting your reply to a message before the
    quoted message, instead of after the (trimmed) message.
Q1: What is top posting?

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[Jerry Feldman-2]

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:28:25 +0100
Brad Rogers <brad@...> wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:06:30 +0100
> Paul <claws@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Paul,
>
> > Use %X or %cursor in your templates. (Sounds suspiciously like a
> > top-posting request to me :))
>  
> I know you're joking, but to me, it seems that putting the cursor at
> the start of quoted text is the more sensible option, since that's more
> likely to be the text that's least relevant to the reply.
>
> Obviously, that's not always the case, but would have been for this
> message, had I not highlighted the text I wished to reply to in the
> message view first.

Some lists I am on hate top-posting, and others seem to prefer it.
There are advantages and disadvantages of both.

BTW: Take a look at folder/properties. I have a number of my folders
set for a default to: address as well as templates. This is one of the
really nice thing about claws.

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[Salvatore De Paolis-3]

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:38:58 -0400
Jerry Feldman <gaf@...> wrote:

> Some lists I am on hate top-posting, and others seem to prefer it.
> There are advantages and disadvantages of both.

Which are the advantages of top-posting? Spare on alcohol?

[Jerry Feldman-2]

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:51:12 +0200
Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse@...> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:38:58 -0400
> Jerry Feldman <gaf@...> wrote:
>
> > Some lists I am on hate top-posting, and others seem to prefer it.
> > There are advantages and disadvantages of both.
>
> Which are the advantages of top-posting? Spare on alcohol?


For one, you get the see the message immediately, and you don't have to
scroll down. Then, if you need the context, you can scroll down. Some
people when posting tend to retain all the context instead of trimming,
so with bottom posting you have to scroll down quite a bit.



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[wwp]

Hello,


On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:51:12 +0200 Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse@...> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:38:58 -0400
> Jerry Feldman <gaf@...> wrote:
>
> > Some lists I am on hate top-posting, and others seem to prefer it.
> > There are advantages and disadvantages of both.
>
> Which are the advantages of top-posting? Spare on alcohol?

Come on, not *again* a thread about top-posting! Who did hijack the
original topic?


Regards,

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[wwp]

Hello,


On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:47:04 +0200 wwp <subscript@...> wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:51:12 +0200 Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse@...> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:38:58 -0400
> > Jerry Feldman <gaf@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Some lists I am on hate top-posting, and others seem to prefer it.
> > > There are advantages and disadvantages of both.
> >
> > Which are the advantages of top-posting? Spare on alcohol?
>
> Come on, not *again* a thread about top-posting! Who did hijack the
> original topic?

Forgot to say, do not use vi as it's not a text editor and US coffee
is not coffee!


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[Holger Berndt]

You're welcome.

On Fr, 18.07.2008 16:29, Michael Kifer wrote:

>Thank you!
>
>On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:05:59 +0200
>Holger Berndt <berndth@...> wrote:
>
>> On Fr, 18.07.2008 15:02, Michael Kifer wrote:
>>
>> >Is there a way to tell the cursor to move to the beginning of the
>> >message on replying or forwarding?
>>
>> %X in the templates stands for cursor position.
>>
>> Holger
>>
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[Salvatore De Paolis-3]

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:46:24 -0400
Jerry Feldman <gaf@...> wrote:

> For one, you get the see the message immediately, and you don't have to
> scroll down.
Which seems useless to me without a context...
> Then, if you need the context, you can scroll down. Some
> people when posting tend to retain all the context instead of trimming,
> so with bottom posting you have to scroll down quite a bit.
This is a problem about learn how to quote instead of being a problem of bottom
posting.

[Jerry Feldman-2]

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:47:04 +0200
wwp <subscript@...> wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:51:12 +0200 Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse@...> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:38:58 -0400
> > Jerry Feldman <gaf@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Some lists I am on hate top-posting, and others seem to prefer it.
> > > There are advantages and disadvantages of both.
> >
> > Which are the advantages of top-posting? Spare on alcohol?
>
> Come on, not *again* a thread about top-posting! Who did hijack the
> original topic?

This is not a hijack. When I posted by reply, I stated that some lists
prefer top posting and I was asked for some advantages. I did not
intend it to be a discussion on top-posting, just an explanation why a
person might want to automatically adjust the cursor to the top.

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[Jerry Feldman-2]

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:00:23 +0200
Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse@...> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:46:24 -0400
> Jerry Feldman <gaf@...> wrote:
>
> > For one, you get the see the message immediately, and you don't have to
> > scroll down.
> Which seems useless to me without a context...
> > Then, if you need the context, you can scroll down. Some
> > people when posting tend to retain all the context instead of trimming,
> > so with bottom posting you have to scroll down quite a bit.
> This is a problem about learn how to quote instead of being a problem of bottom
> posting.

As I said there are advantages to both methods. This list, as well as
the SuSE Linux, OpenOffice and some other forums prefer bottom posting,
and there are some very good reasons, but it is a matter of
preference.  In a help-type list like this,  the context is very
important, but in many other forums, you only really need the subject
and maybe a few lines of context. Again, personal preferences as well
as the preference of the list members.

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[wwp]

Hello Jerry,


On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:11:18 -0400 Jerry Feldman <gaf@...> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:47:04 +0200
> wwp <subscript@...> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:51:12 +0200 Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse@...> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:38:58 -0400
> > > Jerry Feldman <gaf@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Some lists I am on hate top-posting, and others seem to prefer it.
> > > > There are advantages and disadvantages of both.
> > >
> > > Which are the advantages of top-posting? Spare on alcohol?
> >
> > Come on, not *again* a thread about top-posting! Who did hijack the
> > original topic?
>
> This is not a hijack. When I posted by reply, I stated that some lists
> prefer top posting and I was asked for some advantages. I did not
> intend it to be a discussion on top-posting, just an explanation why a
> person might want to automatically adjust the cursor to the top.

Well, the original question was to know how to, not for other people to
know why the original poster wanted that :-). And this is not you who
hijacked it, but Paul ;-).


Regards,

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