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Hi. I nedd monitor performance and availability of my SOA implementation, through the Glassfish. What a tool for that? Thanks...
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Re: Monitor Application

by Ludovic Champenois :: Rate this Message:

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glassfish@... wrote:
> Hi. I nedd monitor performance and availability of my SOA implementation, through the Glassfish. What a tool for that?
NetBeans:
http://www.netbeans.org/kb/trails/soa.html
http://profiler.netbeans.org/
http://www.netbeans.org/kb/trails/web.html
http://www.netbeans.org/kb/trails/java-ee.html
http://www.netbeans.org/kb/index.html


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Re: Monitor Application

by Pete Ehlke-3 :: Rate this Message:

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Um... really?

I've got an SOA-based application infrastructure running 4 applications on 5 glassfish domains, 15 clusters, and 30 server instances. You're actually suggesting that *netbeans* is the right tool to use to monitor it for performance and availability?

Please pull off your Developer blinders for just a few seconds before you hand out answers like this.

-Pete

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Ludovic Champenois <Ludovic.Champenois@...> wrote:
glassfish@... wrote:
Hi. I nedd monitor performance and availability of my SOA implementation, through the Glassfish. What a tool for that?
NetBeans:
http://www.netbeans.org/kb/trails/soa.html
http://profiler.netbeans.org/
http://www.netbeans.org/kb/trails/web.html
http://www.netbeans.org/kb/trails/java-ee.html
http://www.netbeans.org/kb/index.html


Ludo


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Re: Monitor Application

by Ludovic Champenois :: Rate this Message:

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Pete Ehlke wrote:
> Um... really?
>
> I've got an SOA-based application infrastructure running 4
> applications on 5 glassfish domains, 15 clusters, and 30 server
> instances. You're actually suggesting that *netbeans* is the right
> tool to use to monitor it for performance and availability?
Ho, now we talk...Lack of requirements in generic emails tend to give
generic answers.
So you seem to have developed a very complex SOA application so far, and
I am very impressed. It would be nice if you can share more your
experience so far.
Did you use vi, javac, jar and cp to reach this state? I guess not.
I sent some pointers about the java profiler I know in NetBeans as well
as the SOA tools I know, based on a very limited information I recieved
in the mail.

Performance monitoring for distributed java applications can be very
complex, and I guess a  mix of java profiling tools, debugger tools (via
netbeans that can connect locally or remotely to any running JVM), app
server monitoring capabilities (glassfish), SOA runtime instrumentation
(need to investigate this area, but I hope it can be instrumented, A
traceable operating systems like Solaris and OpenSolaris with Dtrace
capabilities all the way from kernel, java vm, network stack, database
(MySQL Dtrace Probes), JavaScript Dtrace probes (in instrumented
firefox), etc, etc can help.

But this is a *very* complex set of tasks that require a very skilled team.
Support and Services offered by Sun or other companies can help as well.

Ludo


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> Please pull off your Developer blinders for just a few seconds before
> you hand out answers like this.
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> -Pete
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> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Ludovic Champenois
> <Ludovic.Champenois@... <mailto:Ludovic.Champenois@...>> wrote:
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>     glassfish@... <mailto:glassfish@...> wrote:
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>         Hi. I nedd monitor performance and availability of my SOA
>         implementation, through the Glassfish. What a tool for that?
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>     NetBeans:
>     http://www.netbeans.org/kb/trails/soa.html
>     http://profiler.netbeans.org/
>     http://www.netbeans.org/kb/trails/web.html
>     http://www.netbeans.org/kb/trails/java-ee.html
>     http://www.netbeans.org/kb/index.html
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>     Ludo
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>         Thanks...
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Re: Monitor Application

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What is not clear from the original email is what was meant by "performance and availability".

When folks typically ask ask about performance, they're talking about runtime performance and how "it's slow and how can I fix it" rather than "I'd like to know in general what my processing load is in messages per second" or whatever.

Sounds to me like that's what is wanted here, yes? As in "I would like some needles and gauges to help me understand the general health of my infrastructure". Instead of "what method is consuming all of my CPU time" kind of typical profiler questions.

Is that more of what you were looking for Pete?

I too would be interested in some discussion about the features built in to the container to help facilitate such monitoring and how they are used.
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Re: Monitor Application

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My intention when I mentioned "performance and availability," I was referring to:
Performance: Response time, throughput, timeliness...
Availability: Percentage by which the system is working, without fault.
I think my original question was insufficient.
Well, I went searching on some tools that monitor these issues. Most, if not all, are proprietary. Anyway, it is a good topic for discussion ...
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