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Mississippi RiverHey Rod and Mary,
Have you ever taken a trip down the river? Mary Ann and I have always fantasized about a Mississippi voyage. Do you think this would be doable on an R22? There's lots of towns along the way to stop and visit and you could beach almost anywhere. It's a commercial waterway and so it's main channel is maintained at a 12 foot minimum. We'd go down but not back up. We'd have to arrange someone to meet us with a trailer somewhere downstream. One downside is that I wouldn't really want to swim in it. Any thoughts anyone? Huckleberry Slim __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list |
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Re: Mississippi RiverHaving lived in Pittsburgh and boated on the 3 rivers around our city I have some concerns about your proposed trip. First of all the barges who use the river 24/7 are essentially locked in a confined channel and cannot stop or avoid you. It is your problem to avoid them. They also have priority over you in the use of locks so if they are stacked up you may not get through and will have to wait. However, my main concern is do you have enough engine to overcome the power of the river current??? 10 hp is fine for calm days but I have been on the river when the corp of engineers has open up a dam gate to control to water level and the power of the current is shocking to someone not used to it. Also if you accidentally get to close to and overflow dam can that engine get you out of there before you go over? I am a new Rhodes owner and am not sure how much the engine mount can handle but there are others out there who would. |
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Re: Mississippi RiverSlim,
Here are two "must read" books about the trip you are thinking about: "Mississippi Solo" by Eddie Harris and "Old Glory" by Jonathan Raban. Harris and Raban both did the Mississippi from the source to the Gulf. Harris is a black dude from St. Louis who also got a 'bug up his ass' to do a "roots" tour and walked the entire continent of Africa and told the story in "Native Stranger". Raban is an Englishman who has lived and written extensively about the US. He is also an accomplished sailor and has written many a good sailing tale. Do It! (we'll feed you in Memphis on the way) Brad On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Steven Alm <stevenalm@...> wrote: > Hey Rod and Mary, > > Have you ever taken a trip down the river? Mary Ann and I have always > fantasized about a Mississippi voyage. Do you think this would be doable > on > an R22? There's lots of towns along the way to stop and visit and you > could > beach almost anywhere. It's a commercial waterway and so it's main channel > is maintained at a 12 foot minimum. We'd go down but not back up. We'd > have to arrange someone to meet us with a trailer somewhere downstream. > One > downside is that I wouldn't really want to swim in it. Any thoughts > anyone? > > Huckleberry Slim > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > Use Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list |
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Re: Mississippi RiverHey Slim
Check our No. 51 may/june of Small Craft Advisor there is a story of a couple who went down the Big Muddy from around your neck of the woods. They were on a 17 foot Norse boat. Good article, but I think the spent way too much money (from my cheapskate point of view ---$3130) At that price you could ship your boat on deck cargo to Greece and have a Rhodes in Rhodes! Chris G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Alm" <stevenalm@...> To: "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list@...> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 4:43 PM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mississippi River > Hey Rod and Mary, > > Have you ever taken a trip down the river? Mary Ann and I have always > fantasized about a Mississippi voyage. Do you think this would be doable on > an R22? There's lots of towns along the way to stop and visit and you could > beach almost anywhere. It's a commercial waterway and so it's main channel > is maintained at a 12 foot minimum. We'd go down but not back up. We'd > have to arrange someone to meet us with a trailer somewhere downstream. One > downside is that I wouldn't really want to swim in it. Any thoughts anyone? > > Huckleberry Slim > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list |
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Re: Mississippi RiverThanks to all who responded. We're in the process of collecting charts and
other info. It's not likely that we'd take a very loooong trip. We're not setting our sights on NOLA or anything like that. Or even Memphis--sorry, Brad. Maybe the Quad Cities. Even that's pretty adventurous for us. We'd launch the boat someplace where we could safely leave it for a couple days. Probably Lake Pepin which is not really a "lake" but just wide river. Then drive the empty trailer and a second vehicle and go south as far as...who knows. Leave the trailer there and drive back to the boat in the second car. But as Richard points out, I wonder how much actual sailing we'd do. Which makes me wonder how much I can rely on our 11 year-old Merc 8.0. We've been on the river a lot with our fishing boat and have had plenty of experience getting out of the way of the big barges--sometimes as many as six tied together. But with a Lund 17' and a Johnson 35, it's speedy and easily maneuvered. The Rhodes, not so much. We think the trip would be pretty dog-friendly and we'd plan on beaching or docking early and often for that reason. Lots more research to be done. Slim On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Chris Geankoplis <napoli68@...> wrote: > Hey Slim > Check our No. 51 may/june of Small Craft Advisor there is a > story of a couple who went down the Big Muddy from around your neck of the > woods. They were on a 17 foot Norse boat. Good article, but I think the > spent way too much money (from my cheapskate point of view ---$3130) At > that price you could ship your boat on deck cargo to Greece and have a > Rhodes in Rhodes! > > Chris G > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven Alm" <stevenalm@...> > To: "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list@...> > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 4:43 PM > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mississippi River > > > > Hey Rod and Mary, > > > > Have you ever taken a trip down the river? Mary Ann and I have always > > fantasized about a Mississippi voyage. Do you think this would be > doable > on > > an R22? There's lots of towns along the way to stop and visit and you > could > > beach almost anywhere. It's a commercial waterway and so it's main > channel > > is maintained at a 12 foot minimum. We'd go down but not back up. > We'd > > have to arrange someone to meet us with a trailer somewhere downstream. > One > > downside is that I wouldn't really want to swim in it. Any thoughts > anyone? > > > > Huckleberry Slim > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > Use Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list |
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Re: Mississippi RiverSlim, If you make it any where near St. Louis I will buy you a frosty Cold Budweiser. There are a lot of people who try to sail the Miss around here and all have the same complaints. Spring currents are fast and there are Bluffs on one shore line or the other causing the wind to either go straignt up or down stream. Let me know if I can help - plenty places to park a trailer if you get that adventurous. Bob Weber> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 14:15:29 -0500> From: stevenalm@...> To: rhodes22-list@...> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mississippi River> > Thanks to all who responded. We're in the process of collecting charts and> other info. It's not likely that we'd take a very loooong trip. We're not> setting our sights on NOLA or anything like that. Or even Memphis--sorry,> Brad. Maybe the Quad Cities. Even that's pretty adventurous for us.> > We'd launch the boat someplace where we could safely leave it for a couple> days. Probably Lake Pepin which is not really a "lake" but just wide> river. Then drive the empty trailer and a second vehicle and go south as> far as...who knows. Leave the trailer there and drive back to the boat in> the second car.> > But as Richard points out, I wonder how much actual sailing we'd do. Which> makes me wonder how much I can rely on our 11 year-old Merc 8.0. We've been> on the river a lot with our fishing boat and have had plenty of experience> getting out of the way of the big barges--sometimes as many as six tied> together. But with a Lund 17' and a Johnson 35, it's speedy and easily> maneuvered. The Rhodes, not so much.> > We think the trip would be pretty dog-friendly and we'd plan on beaching or> docking early and often for that reason.> > Lots more research to be done.> > Slim> > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Chris Geankoplis <napoli68@...>> wrote:> > > Hey Slim> > Check our No. 51 may/june of Small Craft Advisor there is a> > story of a couple who went down the Big Muddy from around y our neck of the> > woods. They were on a 17 foot Norse boat. Good article, but I think the> > spent way too much money (from my cheapskate point of view ---$3130) At> > that price you could ship your boat on deck cargo to Greece and have a> > Rhodes in Rhodes!> >> > Chris G> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "Steven Alm" <stevenalm@...>> > To: "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list@...>> > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 4:43 PM> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mississippi River> >> >> > > Hey Rod and Mary,> > >> > > Have you ever taken a trip down the river? Mary Ann and I have always> > > fantasized about a Mississippi voyage. Do you think this would be> > doable> > on> > > an R22? There's lots of towns along the way to stop and visit and you> > could> > > beach almost anywhere. It's a commercial waterway and so it's main> > channel> > > is maintained at a 12 foot minimum. We'd go down but not back up.> > We'd> > > have to arrange someone to meet us with a trailer somewhere downstream.> > One> > > downside is that I wouldn't really want to swim in it. Any thoughts> > anyone?> > >> > > Huckleberry Slim> > > __________________________________________________> > > Use Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list> >> > __________________________________________________> > Use Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list> >> __________________________________________________> Use Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list _________________________________________________________________ Make Windows Vista more reliable and secure with Windows Vista Service Pack 1. http://www.windowsvista.com/SP1?WT.mc_id=hotmailvistasp1banner __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list |
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Re: Mississippi RiverBob,
As a matter of fact I will be in St. Louis this week, Wed thru Sat at Jive and Wail: http://www.jiveandwail.com/index.php But I won't be on my R22. It doesn't go to weather like a 737! Slim On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Bob Weber <ruba1811@...> wrote: > > Slim, If you make it any where near St. Louis I will buy you a frosty Cold > Budweiser. There are a lot of people who try to sail the Miss around here > and all have the same complaints. Spring currents are fast and there are > Bluffs on one shore line or the other causing the wind to either go straignt > up or down stream. Let me know if I can help - plenty places to park a > trailer if you get that adventurous. Bob Weber> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 > 14:15:29 -0500> From: stevenalm@...> To: rhodes22-list@...> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mississippi River> > Thanks to all who > responded. We're in the process of collecting charts and> other info. It's > not likely that we'd take a very loooong trip. We're not> setting our sights > on NOLA or anything like that. Or even Memphis--sorry,> Brad. Maybe the Quad > Cities. Even that's pretty adventurous for us.> > We'd launch the boat > someplace where we could safely leave it for a couple> days. Probably Lake > Pepin which is not really a > "lake" but just wide> river. Then drive the empty trailer and a second > vehicle and go south as> far as...who knows. Leave the trailer there and > drive back to the boat in> the second car.> > But as Richard points out, I > wonder how much actual sailing we'd do. Which> makes me wonder how much I > can rely on our 11 year-old Merc 8.0. We've been> on the river a lot with > our fishing boat and have had plenty of experience> getting out of the way > of the big barges--sometimes as many as six tied> together. But with a Lund > 17' and a Johnson 35, it's speedy and easily> maneuvered. The Rhodes, not so > much.> > We think the trip would be pretty dog-friendly and we'd plan on > beaching or> docking early and often for that reason.> > Lots more research > to be done.> > Slim> > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Chris Geankoplis < > napoli68@...>> wrote:> > > Hey Slim> > Check our No. 51 may/june > of Small Craft Advisor there is a> > story of a couple who went down the Big > Muddy from around y > our neck of the> > woods. They were on a 17 foot Norse boat. Good > article, but I think the> > spent way too much money (from my cheapskate > point of view ---$3130) At> > that price you could ship your boat on deck > cargo to Greece and have a> > Rhodes in Rhodes!> >> > Chris G> > ----- > Original Message -----> > From: "Steven Alm" <stevenalm@...>> > To: > "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list@...>> > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 4:43 > PM> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mississippi River> >> >> > > Hey Rod and > Mary,> > >> > > Have you ever taken a trip down the river? Mary Ann and I > have always> > > fantasized about a Mississippi voyage. Do you think this > would be> > doable> > on> > > an R22? There's lots of towns along the way to > stop and visit and you> > could> > > beach almost anywhere. It's a > commercial waterway and so it's main> > channel> > > is maintained at a 12 > foot minimum. We'd go down but not back up.> > We'd> > > have to arrange > someone to meet us with a trailer somewhere > downstream.> > One> > > downside is that I wouldn't really want to swim > in it. Any thoughts> > anyone?> > >> > > Huckleberry Slim> > > > __________________________________________________> > > Use > Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list> >> > > __________________________________________________> > Use > Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list> >> > __________________________________________________> Use > Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > _________________________________________________________________ > Make Windows Vista more reliable and secure with Windows Vista Service > Pack 1. > http://www.windowsvista.com/SP1?WT.mc_id=hotmailvistasp1banner > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > Use Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list |
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Mississippi RiverSlim:
I am at it again! Now the music on when you go to that web site you posted is good, and tell me it the guy has an album on cd, you are the wrong color... But since you are musically talented, maybe you just can do that gig... Speaking of talent, if you cleaned up your act, and made a contemporary redition of that type music, just think, you might get on the public airways, or heaven forbid on that satellite radio. Some of the greatest muscians did not make it until they were over the hill. Sober up, look up and aspire, it is not over until the fat lady sings... Quote of the day: “Every great advancement in science has issued from a new audacity of imagination.” Frederick the Great, King of Prussia, now modified for Slim: “Every great achievement in music has issued from a new audacity of imagination.” see: http://www.jiveandwail.com Ed K Greenville, SC, USA
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Re: Mississippi RiverSlim, I will make every effort to make it tonight or tomorrow. I will be teaching a Basic Keelboat class at my lake Fri-Sunday. I will probably be doing a Night sail Friday night after the students leave if you are not working. BW> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 23:44:37 -0500> From: stevenalm@...> To: rhodes22-list@...> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mississippi River> > Bob,> > As a matter of fact I will be in St. Louis this week, Wed thru Sat at Jive> and Wail:> > http://www.jiveandwail.com/index.php> > But I won't be on my R22. It doesn't go to weather like a 737!> > Slim> > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Bob Weber <ruba1811@...> wrote:> > >> > Slim, If you make it any where near St. Louis I will buy you a frosty Cold> > Budweiser. There are a lot of people who try to sail the Miss around here> > and all have the same complaints. Spring currents are fast and there are> > Bluffs on one shore line or the other causing the wind to either go straignt> > up o r down stream. Let me know if I can help - plenty places to park a> > trailer if you get that adventurous. Bob Weber> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008> > 14:15:29 -0500> From: stevenalm@...> To: rhodes22-list@...>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mississippi River> > Thanks to all who> > responded. We're in the process of collecting charts and> other info. It's> > not likely that we'd take a very loooong trip. We're not> setting our sights> > on NOLA or anything like that. Or even Memphis--sorry,> Brad. Maybe the Quad> > Cities. Even that's pretty adventurous for us.> > We'd launch the boat> > someplace where we could safely leave it for a couple> days. Probably Lake> > Pepin which is not really a> > "lake" but just wide> river. Then drive the empty trailer and a second> > vehicle and go south as> far as...who knows. Leave the trailer there and> > drive back to the boat in> the second car.> > But as Richard points out, I> > wonder how much actual sailing we'd do. Which> makes me wonder how much I> > can rely on our 11 year-old Merc 8.0. We've been> on the river a lot with> > our fishing boat and have had plenty of experience> getting out of the way> > of the big barges--sometimes as many as six tied> together. But with a Lund> > 17' and a Johnson 35, it's speedy and easily> maneuvered. The Rhodes, not so> > much.> > We think the trip would be pretty dog-friendly and we'd plan on> > beaching or> docking early and often for that reason.> > Lots more research> > to be done.> > Slim> > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Chris Geankoplis <> > napoli68@...>> wrote:> > > Hey Slim> > Check our No. 51 may/june> > of Small Craft Advisor there is a> > story of a couple who went down the Big> > Muddy from around y> > our neck of the> > woods. They were on a 17 foot Norse boat. Good> > article, but I think the> > spent way too much money (from my cheapskate> > point of view ---$3130) At> > that price you could ship your boat on deck> > cargo to G reece and have a> > Rhodes in Rhodes!> >> > Chris G> > -----> > Original Message -----> > From: "Steven Alm" <stevenalm@...>> > To:> > "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list@...>> > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 4:43> > PM> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mississippi River> >> >> > > Hey Rod and> > Mary,> > >> > > Have you ever taken a trip down the river? Mary Ann and I> > have always> > > fantasized about a Mississippi voyage. Do you think this> > would be> > doable> > on> > > an R22? There's lots of towns along the way to> > stop and visit and you> > could> > > beach almost anywhere. It's a> > commercial waterway and so it's main> > channel> > > is maintained at a 12> > foot minimum. We'd go down but not back up.> > We'd> > > have to arrange> > someone to meet us with a trailer somewhere> > downstream.> > One> > > downside is that I wouldn't really want to swim> > in it. Any thoughts> > anyone?> > >> > > Huckleberry Slim> > >> > _________________________________________________ _> > > Use> > Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list> >> >> > __________________________________________________> > Use> > Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list> >>> > __________________________________________________> Use> > Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list> > _________________________________________________________________> > Make Windows Vista more reliable and secure with Windows Vista Service> > Pack 1.> > http://www.windowsvista.com/SP1?WT.mc_id=hotmailvistasp1banner> > __________________________________________________> > Use Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list> >> __________________________________________________> Use Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list _________________________________________________________________ Make Windows Vista more reliable and secure with Windows Vista Service Pack 1. http://www.windowsvista.com/SP1?WT.mc_id=hotmailvistasp1banner __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@..., Help? www.rhodes22.org/list |
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Re: Mississippi RiverI sail often in a 15 ft. dinghy on the Mississippi above Alton, IL. From Alton north the river is constrained by a number of dams and during the summer the current is low. During the spring it can be as high as 6 knots which makes it difficult to maneuver. The channel is kept at 9 ft. but that leaves a lot more of the river that can be less. The tow boats are not too much of a problem. They are constrained to the channel which is clearly marked with red and green bouys and that leaves a lot of river for you to maneuver in. The water is nearly clear and good for swimming in as long as you trail a rope or are drifting with the current.
Below Alton is another matter. The Missouri river flows in just above St. Louis carrying a lot of water and silt. This increases the current and muddies up the water. Also, there are no more dams to control the current. People who do take the trip to the gulf only go as far as Cairo where they then travel up the Ohio to Kentucky Lake. From there the then travel down the Ten-Tom Waterway to the gulf. Below the Ohio river the Mississippi is mostly a wide straight ditch with a lot of barge traffic. Jeff S.
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