Message resize behavior horribly broken

[Jason Kontkanen]

I checked the archives and saw that this is apparently intended behavior.
Will the next release please make this an option?  I had to downgrade back
to 2.3.1.  It might work for some people, but this is something I think
needs to be a choice.  It very much seems like a theme choice to me, not a
forced behavior across the board.

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[Ethan Blanton-3]

Jason Kontkanen spake unto us the following wisdom:
> I checked the archives and saw that this is apparently intended behavior.
> Will the next release please make this an option?  I had to downgrade back
> to 2.3.1.  It might work for some people, but this is something I think
> needs to be a choice.  It very much seems like a theme choice to me, not a
> forced behavior across the board.

Please do us the dignity of at least trying to define "horribly broken".

There are apparently two issues at stake here; one is that the input
box is *intended* to be fixed in height, and starts at two lines of
text, expanding as needed (up to about 4 lines, where it sprouts a
scrollbar).  The second is a _bug_, where under some circumstances the
input box is ~0 pixels in height until text is entered.  The latter
will certainly be corrected, the former is not likely to change
without some serious consideration from all parties.

Ethan

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[Jason Kontkanen]

> Please do us the dignity of at least trying to define
> "horribly broken".
>
> There are apparently two issues at stake here; one is that the input
> box is *intended* to be fixed in height, and starts at two lines of
> text, expanding as needed (up to about 4 lines, where it sprouts a
> scrollbar).  The second is a _bug_, where under some circumstances the
> input box is ~0 pixels in height until text is entered.  The latter
> will certainly be corrected, the former is not likely to change
> without some serious consideration from all parties.
>

I apologize for that reaction, it just struck me as a troublesome change in
UI design, and to me, not for the better.  Part of the reason I picked
pidgin is because it gives me options, unlike some other all-in-one clients
that force their design on you with no option to make things look like you
want them to.  I've talked to a couple friends who use pidgin and they say
they will also be sticking to 2.3.1 because of this change, so I don't think
I'm alone with my feeling.

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[Festival.Star]

Yeah that is the same feeling I have about that topic. Enforcing the
people to use such a system can't be the right way. I will stay with
2.3.1 as well and wait untill the whole thing is optional.

kind regards!

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[Seth Goldberg-3]

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Hi, I just wanted to echo the opinions of other folks here regarding this new behavior in 2.4.0: I really do no like it. I liked the option of resizing the text input window (because I frequently paste large segments of text with colleagues). Now that I have to work through a keyhole (4 lines max + scrollbar), it's EXTREMELY annoying. You should definitely have an option to enable or disable the ability to resize (default to YES, to maintain backward compatibility). Those who like the new behavior can switch it on and everyone's happy. Thanks, --S

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[Sascha Vogt]

Hi,

Seth Goldberg schrieb:
> Hi, I just wanted to echo the opinions of other folks here regarding
> this new behavior in 2.4.0: I really do no like it. I liked the option
> of resizing the text input window (because I frequently paste large
> segments of text with colleagues). Now that I have to work through a
> keyhole (4 lines max + scrollbar), it's EXTREMELY annoying. You should
> definitely have an option to enable or disable the ability to resize
> (default to YES, to maintain backward compatibility). Those who like the
> new behavior can switch it on and everyone's happy. Thanks, --S
Did you read http://pidgin.im/pipermail/support/2008-March/000755.html 
and the following messages?

Greetings
-Sascha-

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[Jens Franik]

Guten Tag Seth Goldberg,

am Freitag, 7. März 2008 um 00:08 schrieben Sie:

> You should
> definitely have an option to enable or disable the ability to resize
> (default to YES, to maintain backward compatibility).

Default: Not resizeable, because thats state of the art and new.

> Those who like
> the new behavior can switch it on

No, they can leave it, like it is designed, the others, which know of
the old behaviour and need to have that, could switch back...

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