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MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection
by Tony Fang
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I would like to submit MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection for review and comment.
http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc51 Thanks, Tony _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals |
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RE: MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection
by Andy Morsell
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This is a beautiful. I figured something like this must be coming given the
ability to provide coordinate system overrides for raster datasources. This has long been an issue for many clients and the 25% performance cost will likely be acceptable for most in light of not needing to pre-process all of the data. My only worry is that this might cause additional instability to the already unstable FDO Autodesk Raster and GDAL providers. I would hope that those instability issues be ironed out prior to introducing new raster features. Andy Morsell, P.E. Spatial Integrators, Inc. www.SpatialGIS.com -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony Fang Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:36 AM To: mapguide-internals@... Subject: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection I would like to submit MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection for review and comment. http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc51 Thanks, Tony _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals |
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Raster stability issues. was MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection
by Tom Fukushima
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Hi Andy,
Is any progress being made on the raster issues? I saw an email from Frank saying that he was looking for a MG developer in the Ottawa area, but I don't think anything came of that. Tom -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Andy Morsell Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:59 AM To: 'MapGuide Internals Mail List' Subject: RE: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection ... My only worry is that this might cause additional instability to the already unstable FDO Autodesk Raster and GDAL providers. I would hope that those instability issues be ironed out prior to introducing new raster features. Andy Morsell, P.E. Spatial Integrators, Inc. www.SpatialGIS.com _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals |
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RE: Raster stability issues. was MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection
by Andy Morsell
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Hi Tom,
I don't think that any progress is being made on the GDAL provider at the moment. Frank is really looking for core FDO / MapGuide developers to assist in this issue rather than MapGuide integrators and API programmers like most of us. I volunteered to contribute $500 to the effort. But, as far as I know, nobody has stepped up. I'm not really sure who has the abilities to assist in solving this problem other than Autodesk or a select few developers out there. Andy -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tom Fukushima Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:06 AM To: MapGuide Internals Mail List Subject: [mapguide-internals] Raster stability issues. was MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection Hi Andy, Is any progress being made on the raster issues? I saw an email from Frank saying that he was looking for a MG developer in the Ottawa area, but I don't think anything came of that. Tom -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Andy Morsell Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:59 AM To: 'MapGuide Internals Mail List' Subject: RE: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection ... My only worry is that this might cause additional instability to the already unstable FDO Autodesk Raster and GDAL providers. I would hope that those instability issues be ironed out prior to introducing new raster features. Andy Morsell, P.E. Spatial Integrators, Inc. www.SpatialGIS.com _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals |
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RE: MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection
by haris kurtagic
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Hi Tony,
Is this something which can be part of FDO ? Please correct me if I am wrong, this reminds me of vector projection for vector data which I think would be nice that is part of FDO too. Haris -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony Fang Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:36 PM To: mapguide-internals@... Subject: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection I would like to submit MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection for review and comment. http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc51 Thanks, Tony _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals |
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RE: Raster stability issues. was MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection
by Tom Fukushima
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Hi Andy,
If anyone can step up, I'm pretty sure that Autodesk developers can help answer questions or give pointers if asked (as opposed to sitting down and working through this). I would like to see this resolved as soon as possible, however I'm currently not in a position to be able to help :(. BTW, as far as I know the Autodesk MapGuide Enterprise 2009 raster support is stable. Have you found different, perhaps we should continue this particular part of the discussion over private email. Tom -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Andy Morsell Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 12:11 PM To: 'MapGuide Internals Mail List' Subject: RE: [mapguide-internals] Raster stability issues. was MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection Hi Tom, I don't think that any progress is being made on the GDAL provider at the moment. Frank is really looking for core FDO / MapGuide developers to assist in this issue rather than MapGuide integrators and API programmers like most of us. I volunteered to contribute $500 to the effort. But, as far as I know, nobody has stepped up. I'm not really sure who has the abilities to assist in solving this problem other than Autodesk or a select few developers out there. Andy -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tom Fukushima Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:06 AM To: MapGuide Internals Mail List Subject: [mapguide-internals] Raster stability issues. was MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection Hi Andy, Is any progress being made on the raster issues? I saw an email from Frank saying that he was looking for a MG developer in the Ottawa area, but I don't think anything came of that. Tom -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Andy Morsell Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:59 AM To: 'MapGuide Internals Mail List' Subject: RE: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection ... My only worry is that this might cause additional instability to the already unstable FDO Autodesk Raster and GDAL providers. I would hope that those instability issues be ironed out prior to introducing new raster features. Andy Morsell, P.E. Spatial Integrators, Inc. www.SpatialGIS.com _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals |
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RE: MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection
by Orest Halustchak
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Hi Haris,
I remember that discussion on coordinate projection related to fdo, which included client utilities in general (see http://trac.osgeo.org/fdo/wiki/FdoClientUtilities). However, it never progressed very far. There were a number of options, provide projection support as a client utility, include a wrapper around fdo, or include within fdo. This still remains on the fdo futures list and is still open for discussion in that forum. However, the raster re-projection support seems important and I wouldn't hold it up pending a possible future change to how fdo may do this. If we ever do something in fdo around this, then we can migrate code as necessary -- it would impact vector re-projection as well. Thanks, Orest. -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Haris Kurtagic Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:22 PM To: MapGuide Internals Mail List Subject: RE: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection Hi Tony, Is this something which can be part of FDO ? Please correct me if I am wrong, this reminds me of vector projection for vector data which I think would be nice that is part of FDO too. Haris -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony Fang Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:36 PM To: mapguide-internals@... Subject: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection I would like to submit MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection for review and comment. http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc51 Thanks, Tony _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals |
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RE: MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection
by haris kurtagic
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Hi Orest,
Thanks for reply, yes I remember that discussion and I hope we will do something in that direction. I see, as you and Andy wrote that this feature is important and understand that it should not wait for bigger changes to happen. It would be nice while developing this new feature to have in background of mind possibility of future changes. Thanks, Haris -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Orest Halustchak Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:13 PM To: MapGuide Internals Mail List Subject: RE: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection Hi Haris, I remember that discussion on coordinate projection related to fdo, which included client utilities in general (see http://trac.osgeo.org/fdo/wiki/FdoClientUtilities). However, it never progressed very far. There were a number of options, provide projection support as a client utility, include a wrapper around fdo, or include within fdo. This still remains on the fdo futures list and is still open for discussion in that forum. However, the raster re-projection support seems important and I wouldn't hold it up pending a possible future change to how fdo may do this. If we ever do something in fdo around this, then we can migrate code as necessary -- it would impact vector re-projection as well. Thanks, Orest. -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Haris Kurtagic Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:22 PM To: MapGuide Internals Mail List Subject: RE: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection Hi Tony, Is this something which can be part of FDO ? Please correct me if I am wrong, this reminds me of vector projection for vector data which I think would be nice that is part of FDO too. Haris -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony Fang Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:36 PM To: mapguide-internals@... Subject: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection I would like to submit MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection for review and comment. http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc51 Thanks, Tony _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals |
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Re: Raster stability issues. was MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection
by Frank Warmerdam-2
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Tom Fukushima wrote:
> Hi Andy, > > Is any progress being made on the raster issues? I saw an email from Frank > saying that he was looking for a MG developer in the Ottawa area, but I > don't think anything came of that. Tom, That is correct - nothing came of it. Lacking assistance from a core MapGuide developer, I'm not willing to bury myself in this issue. Best regards, -- ---------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmerdam@... light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush | President OSGeo, http://osgeo.org _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals |
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RE: MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection
by Steve Dang
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1. Does this feature work with both GD and AGG renders? or just the AGG?
2. To simplify the INI file content, should we have the TileSize property under the RenderingServiceProperties section? Steve. -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony Fang Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:36 AM To: mapguide-internals@... Subject: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection I would like to submit MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection for review and comment. http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc51 Thanks, Tony _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals |
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RE: MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection
by Walt Welton-Lair
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GD renderer will (hopefully) soon be removed. I should write a quick RFC for that...
Tony - consider renaming the TileSize parameter to GridSize. We already use the word "tile" in the context of the TileService, and using a different name would reduce confusion. Walt -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Dang Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:28 PM To: MapGuide Internals Mail List Subject: [mapguide-internals] RE: MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection 1. Does this feature work with both GD and AGG renders? or just the AGG? 2. To simplify the INI file content, should we have the TileSize property under the RenderingServiceProperties section? Steve. -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony Fang Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:36 AM To: mapguide-internals@... Subject: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection I would like to submit MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection for review and comment. http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc51 Thanks, Tony _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals |
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Agg (was MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection)
by JasonBirch
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Hmm.
Guess that means you're happy with the AGG renderer... I could have sworn there was already a ticket for this (islands disappearing on a world map) but couldn't find it. Although I love the enhancements that the AGG renderer brings, this kind of generalization through deletion is not exactly cartographically pleasing: http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/632 Jason -----Original Message----- From: Walt Welton-Lair Subject: [mapguide-internals] RE: MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection GD renderer will (hopefully) soon be removed. I should write a quick RFC for that... Tony - consider renaming the TileSize parameter to GridSize. We already use the word "tile" in the context of the TileService, and using a different name would reduce confusion. Walt _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals |
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RE: Agg (was MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection)
by Walt Welton-Lair
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Now I see why you call yourself the "troublemaker" :-).
-----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Jason Birch Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:53 PM To: MapGuide Internals Mail List Subject: [mapguide-internals] Agg (was MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection) Hmm. Guess that means you're happy with the AGG renderer... I could have sworn there was already a ticket for this (islands disappearing on a world map) but couldn't find it. Although I love the enhancements that the AGG renderer brings, this kind of generalization through deletion is not exactly cartographically pleasing: http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/632 Jason -----Original Message----- From: Walt Welton-Lair Subject: [mapguide-internals] RE: MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection GD renderer will (hopefully) soon be removed. I should write a quick RFC for that... Tony - consider renaming the TileSize parameter to GridSize. We already use the word "tile" in the context of the TileService, and using a different name would reduce confusion. Walt _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals |
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RE: Agg (was MapGuide RFC 51 - RasterRe-projection)
by JasonBirch
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Sorry, couldn't pass up the "quick RFC" comment :) -----Original Message----- From: Walt Welton-Lair Subject: RE: [mapguide-internals] Agg (was MapGuide RFC 51 - RasterRe-projection) Now I see why you call yourself the "troublemaker" :-). -----Original Message----- From: Jason Birch Subject: [mapguide-internals] Agg (was MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection) Hmm. Guess that means you're happy with the AGG renderer... I could have sworn there was already a ticket for this (islands disappearing on a world map) but couldn't find it. Although I love the enhancements that the AGG renderer brings, this kind of generalization through deletion is not exactly cartographically pleasing: http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/ticket/632 Jason -----Original Message----- From: Walt Welton-Lair Subject: [mapguide-internals] RE: MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection GD renderer will (hopefully) soon be removed. I should write a quick RFC for that... Tony - consider renaming the TileSize parameter to GridSize. We already use the word "tile" in the context of the TileService, and using a different name would reduce confusion. _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals |
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RE: MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection
by Tony Fang
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I'll change the serverconfig.ini setting to GridSize and place it under the existing RenderingServiceProperties section.
Thanks, Tony -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Walt Welton-Lair Sent: July 16, 2008 12:34 PM To: MapGuide Internals Mail List Subject: [mapguide-internals] RE: MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection GD renderer will (hopefully) soon be removed. I should write a quick RFC for that... Tony - consider renaming the TileSize parameter to GridSize. We already use the word "tile" in the context of the TileService, and using a different name would reduce confusion. Walt -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Dang Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:28 PM To: MapGuide Internals Mail List Subject: [mapguide-internals] RE: MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection 1. Does this feature work with both GD and AGG renders? or just the AGG? 2. To simplify the INI file content, should we have the TileSize property under the RenderingServiceProperties section? Steve. -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony Fang Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:36 AM To: mapguide-internals@... Subject: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection I would like to submit MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection for review and comment. http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc51 Thanks, Tony _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals |
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RE: MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection
by Walt Welton-Lair
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Tony,
Do you plan on updating DWF Renderer support so that DWF Viewer can display the reprojected rasters? Walt -----Original Message----- From: Walt Welton-Lair Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:34 PM To: MapGuide Internals Mail List Subject: RE: MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection GD renderer will (hopefully) soon be removed. I should write a quick RFC for that... Tony - consider renaming the TileSize parameter to GridSize. We already use the word "tile" in the context of the TileService, and using a different name would reduce confusion. Walt -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Dang Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:28 PM To: MapGuide Internals Mail List Subject: [mapguide-internals] RE: MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection 1. Does this feature work with both GD and AGG renders? or just the AGG? 2. To simplify the INI file content, should we have the TileSize property under the RenderingServiceProperties section? Steve. -----Original Message----- From: mapguide-internals-bounces@... [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony Fang Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:36 AM To: mapguide-internals@... Subject: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection I would like to submit MapGuide RFC 51 - Raster Re-projection for review and comment. http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc51 Thanks, Tony _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals _______________________________________________ mapguide-internals mailing list mapguide-internals@... http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-internals |
