Mailing list expiry dates

[M.-A. Lemburg]

Hi there,

it seems that all SIGs have expired ;-)

        http://www.python.org/sigs/

I'd like to request that the db-sig and the distutils-sig, which I know
are still busy and used for feedback on the subjects databases and
distribution, be prolonged for another year or two.

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[Fred Drake-3]

On Saturday 15 October 2005 07:27, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
 > it seems that all SIGs have expired ;-)

Heh.  Frankly, I think the "expiration" stuff is pretty silly.  Can we simply
get rid of it?


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[Michael Hudson]

"Fred L. Drake, Jr." <fdrake@...> writes:

> On Saturday 15 October 2005 07:27, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>  > it seems that all SIGs have expired ;-)
>
> Heh.  Frankly, I think the "expiration" stuff is pretty silly.  Can we simply
> get rid of it?

+1

Cheers,
mwh

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[Barry Warsaw]

On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 01:08, Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote:
> On Saturday 15 October 2005 07:27, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>  > it seems that all SIGs have expired ;-)
>
> Heh.  Frankly, I think the "expiration" stuff is pretty silly.  Can we simply
> get rid of it?

I still like the idea of culling sigs that are no longer necessary, or
that haven't made any progress in a while.  OTOH, I'm not sure any of
the existing sigs are worthy of retirement.

My suggestion would be to tag all the existing active sigs to expire
December 2006, but if the consensus is to just ditch the expiration
dates, I suppose we can tag them all as "Never" and just deal with
useless sigs on a case-by-case basis.

-Barry



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[Deirdre Saoirse Moen]

Speaking of sig expiry....

Can someone take over the mailman duties on this list?

I'm really not doing any python work at the moment and haven't for  
some time.

But I am working on seven projects right now and have no time.
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[M.-A. Lemburg]

Barry Warsaw wrote:

> On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 01:08, Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote:
>
>>On Saturday 15 October 2005 07:27, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> > it seems that all SIGs have expired ;-)
>>
>>Heh.  Frankly, I think the "expiration" stuff is pretty silly.  Can we simply
>>get rid of it?
>
>
> I still like the idea of culling sigs that are no longer necessary, or
> that haven't made any progress in a while.  OTOH, I'm not sure any of
> the existing sigs are worthy of retirement.
>
> My suggestion would be to tag all the existing active sigs to expire
> December 2006, but if the consensus is to just ditch the expiration
> dates, I suppose we can tag them all as "Never" and just deal with
> useless sigs on a case-by-case basis.

I'm with Fred here: I don't think that we have a good reason
to expire any of the lists. They don't really "cost" anything
much in maintenance (except maybe some time on the behalf of
the list administrators).

I think we should let the list administrators suggest list
removal instead of enforcing a expiry mechanism.

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[A.M. Kuchling]

On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 11:25:14AM +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> I think we should let the list administrators suggest list
> removal instead of enforcing a expiry mechanism.

+1.  I can remove the 'expiration date' table if everyone agrees with
the idea.

By this point we may also have winnowed out the SIGs that can lapse
into complete inactivity; XML, databases, etc. are not topics that
will go away any time soon.

--amk

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[Barry Warsaw]

On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 17:30, Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote:

> Can someone take over the mailman duties on this list?

I've removed you as the list admin and added myself.  I'll update the
sig database accordingly.  If anyone else wants to join me, the more the
merrier.  (Maybe pydotorg should be like Major League Baseball and
meta-sig like the Washington Nationals? :)

-Barry



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[Barry Warsaw]

On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 10:21, A.M. Kuchling wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 11:25:14AM +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > I think we should let the list administrators suggest list
> > removal instead of enforcing a expiry mechanism.
>
> +1.  I can remove the 'expiration date' table if everyone agrees with
> the idea.
>
> By this point we may also have winnowed out the SIGs that can lapse
> into complete inactivity; XML, databases, etc. are not topics that
> will go away any time soon.

Okay, since that's the consensus, +1 from me too.

-Barry



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[Bill Janssen]

> +1.  I can remove the 'expiration date' table if everyone agrees with
> the idea.

Yes, please.  The Web SIG seems to be making progress.

Bill
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[Barry Warsaw]

On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 10:33 -0700, Bill Janssen wrote:
> > +1.  I can remove the 'expiration date' table if everyone agrees with
> > the idea.
>
> Yes, please.  The Web SIG seems to be making progress.

Okay, oops.  I didn't look at the date when I cleared the Mailman
admindb queue. ;)

-Barry



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