MP3 Player for Linux

[markw-4]

Not to start an Emacs vs VI discussion, but I'm kind of curious what
player do you use?

I use xmms. I've tried amerok, but it seems buggy to me and can't quite
figure out how to find the "current song" if I've lost it. I think the
music info is cool, but really, I'm just listening to the music. If I
wanted to watch something like video I'd use TVTime or xine.

What do you use?

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[Don Levey-7]

markw@... wrote:

> Not to start an Emacs vs VI discussion, but I'm kind of curious what
> player do you use?
>
> I use xmms. I've tried amerok, but it seems buggy to me and can't quite
> figure out how to find the "current song" if I've lost it. I think the
> music info is cool, but really, I'm just listening to the music. If I
> wanted to watch something like video I'd use TVTime or xine.
>
> What do you use?
>

If Amarok would work correctly for me*, that's what I'd use.

Since it doesn't, I tend to use vlc.  Works for video too.

  -Don

*It used to work well.  Now, depending upon the machine, it either
crashes repeatedly or hits MySQL hard enough during repeated indexing
that MySQL takes over the CPU and doesn't let go for quite a while.  Too
bad, too.



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[Dan Ritter-2]

On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 03:01:58PM -0400, markw@... wrote:
> Not to start an Emacs vs VI discussion, but I'm kind of curious what
> player do you use?
>
> I use xmms. I've tried amerok, but it seems buggy to me and can't quite
> figure out how to find the "current song" if I've lost it. I think the
> music info is cool, but really, I'm just listening to the music. If I
> wanted to watch something like video I'd use TVTime or xine.
>
> What do you use?

mpg123 -C /path/to/interesting/selection/of/music/*

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[Eric Chadbourne]

> Not to start an Emacs vs VI discussion, but I'm kind of
> curious what player do you use?
>
> I use xmms. I've tried amerok, but it seems buggy to me and
> can't quite figure out how to find the "current song" if I've
> lost it. I think the music info is cool, but really, I'm just
> listening to the music. If I wanted to watch something like
> video I'd use TVTime or xine.
>
> What do you use?

I love xmms but have recently switched to Rhythmbox.  Works pretty well
with a large collection.  It will prompt you to purchase a codec if it
finds an odd file.  Kind of neat and annoying at the same time.  Also
works with some iPods.  Works better than it used to and you may want to
check it out.
- Eric C.

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[Jason Woodward-2]

For listening to streams online, I prefer xmms.  For listening to my mp3
collection, I use amarok.  I agree that amarok is very buggy, but it
does a good job when it hasn't crashed.   I like the dynamic playlists
you can create with it.  Usually, I use both at the same time (Using
xmms at work to listen to the stream coming from amarok & icecast
running at home, with Amarok Remote to change songs from firefox).

Jason Woodward




markw@... wrote:

> Not to start an Emacs vs VI discussion, but I'm kind of curious what
> player do you use?
>
> I use xmms. I've tried amerok, but it seems buggy to me and can't quite
> figure out how to find the "current song" if I've lost it. I think the
> music info is cool, but really, I'm just listening to the music. If I
> wanted to watch something like video I'd use TVTime or xine.
>
> What do you use?
>
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[Kristian Erik Hermansen]

You guys should check exaile :-). Not many people know about it...



On 7/1/08, markw@... <markw@...> wrote:

> Not to start an Emacs vs VI discussion, but I'm kind of curious what
> player do you use?
>
> I use xmms. I've tried amerok, but it seems buggy to me and can't quite
> figure out how to find the "current song" if I've lost it. I think the
> music info is cool, but really, I'm just listening to the music. If I
> wanted to watch something like video I'd use TVTime or xine.
>
> What do you use?
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[Samuel Baldwin]

I used Amarok for ages (I even helped draw icons for them, versions
ago), but once I stopped using KDE, I realised it was silly just to
install something to play music that had about 50 dependencies. My
favourite feature was being able to hit Meta-C and pause my music,
then start it again. (Alas, this stopped when I got my Model M, no
Meta key.) I tried Audacious for a while, which is just an XMMS clone
with some arguably `better' features. Then I used `moc' [1] for a
while. Nice ncurses UI, played everything I wanted to locally. The
problem arose when I tried to stream flac files, though. Just didn't
work. For a while I used mpg123, ogg123, and flac123 to play music,
but those didn't support streaming at all. (Or at least flac123
didn't.) I wrote a very messy perl script to handle it all, too, but
that's long since trashed.

A long while back I tried mpd, but it was very buggy for me. Recently
I tried it again, and it works absolutely fantastically. I'm using it
now. There's some minor setup (editing a configuration file), but
anyone should be able to handle that. I keep all my music on one of my
servers and stream it with gnump3d [2]. (It's handled every format
I've thrown at it, with the proper libraries installed.) Since gnump3d
is perl, it runs just fine on various BSD and Linux distros with very
minor setup. Just point it at your collection (again, minor editing of
a configuration file, from a sample), run it, and you have a very nice
web interface to access your music on a port of your choosing. It
gives you m3u files when you try to play something, which I keep a
collection of in /home/samuel/audio/playlists. Generally it's as
simple as loading the playlist with ncmpc. If I kept everything
locally, it'd be even easier (ncmpc has a very nice ncurses UI for
selecting music and adding it to the playlist.)

The very best part about this setup, however, is that because mpd is a
daemon, I can control it from various methods. I generally don't have
a player window open at all. If I want to check the song playing, I
can just punch `mpc' into a console and it spits out the info. To play
and pause, I bound Control-Alt-T to pause and Control-Alt-N to play
(on dvorak, so J and K on Qwerty) in Xmonad with the lines:

    , ((modMask .|. controlMask,  xK_t     ), spawn "mpc pause")
    , ((modMask .|. controlMask,  xK_n     ), spawn "mpc play")

in my xmonad.hs. (As well as other things such as setting the volume
and skipping tracks). It's really the nicest setup I've ever had with
my music. Never came across a format that it can't play. (Mainly mp3,
ogg, flac, mpc, and wav.)

Sorry for the sales pitch, I'm rather passionate about my music software.

[1] http://moc.daper.net/
[2] http://www.gnu.org/software/gnump3d/
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[darose]

markw@... wrote:
> Not to start an Emacs vs VI discussion, but I'm kind of curious what
> player do you use?
>
> I use xmms. I've tried amerok, but it seems buggy to me and can't quite
> figure out how to find the "current song" if I've lost it. I think the
> music info is cool, but really, I'm just listening to the music. If I
> wanted to watch something like video I'd use TVTime or xine.
>
> What do you use?

I'm a fan of audacious.  It's a lot like xmms (and even hails as a fork
off the same codebase, IIRC) - very simple and minimalist, uses
winamp/xmms skins, etc. - but more modernized.

bmp (beep media player) is another in this category.

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[Kristian Erik Hermansen]

I wanted to mention that exaile is basically amarok with a gtk
interface (so you can avoid kde libs) and adds more features.  Exaile
is awesome.  For people who like total control over their music, I
would recommend mpd/mpc...



On 7/1/08, Samuel Baldwin <shardz4217@...> wrote:

> I used Amarok for ages (I even helped draw icons for them, versions
> ago), but once I stopped using KDE, I realised it was silly just to
> install something to play music that had about 50 dependencies. My
> favourite feature was being able to hit Meta-C and pause my music,
> then start it again. (Alas, this stopped when I got my Model M, no
> Meta key.) I tried Audacious for a while, which is just an XMMS clone
> with some arguably `better' features. Then I used `moc' [1] for a
> while. Nice ncurses UI, played everything I wanted to locally. The
> problem arose when I tried to stream flac files, though. Just didn't
> work. For a while I used mpg123, ogg123, and flac123 to play music,
> but those didn't support streaming at all. (Or at least flac123
> didn't.) I wrote a very messy perl script to handle it all, too, but
> that's long since trashed.
>
> A long while back I tried mpd, but it was very buggy for me. Recently
> I tried it again, and it works absolutely fantastically. I'm using it
> now. There's some minor setup (editing a configuration file), but
> anyone should be able to handle that. I keep all my music on one of my
> servers and stream it with gnump3d [2]. (It's handled every format
> I've thrown at it, with the proper libraries installed.) Since gnump3d
> is perl, it runs just fine on various BSD and Linux distros with very
> minor setup. Just point it at your collection (again, minor editing of
> a configuration file, from a sample), run it, and you have a very nice
> web interface to access your music on a port of your choosing. It
> gives you m3u files when you try to play something, which I keep a
> collection of in /home/samuel/audio/playlists. Generally it's as
> simple as loading the playlist with ncmpc. If I kept everything
> locally, it'd be even easier (ncmpc has a very nice ncurses UI for
> selecting music and adding it to the playlist.)
>
> The very best part about this setup, however, is that because mpd is a
> daemon, I can control it from various methods. I generally don't have
> a player window open at all. If I want to check the song playing, I
> can just punch `mpc' into a console and it spits out the info. To play
> and pause, I bound Control-Alt-T to pause and Control-Alt-N to play
> (on dvorak, so J and K on Qwerty) in Xmonad with the lines:
>
>     , ((modMask .|. controlMask,  xK_t     ), spawn "mpc pause")
>     , ((modMask .|. controlMask,  xK_n     ), spawn "mpc play")
>
> in my xmonad.hs. (As well as other things such as setting the volume
> and skipping tracks). It's really the nicest setup I've ever had with
> my music. Never came across a format that it can't play. (Mainly mp3,
> ogg, flac, mpc, and wav.)
>
> Sorry for the sales pitch, I'm rather passionate about my music software.
>
> [1] http://moc.daper.net/
> [2] http://www.gnu.org/software/gnump3d/
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[Ben Holland]

I didn't think xmms was actually still being supported, I thought it all
switched over to beep media player. If not then for a while I used xmms and
loved it. Then I switched over to beep media player and loved it. I never
did play movies on it though, always didn't seem to work which suited me
fine. That was when I got vlc, so like... just my 2c. Basically I found
winamp to be the be all end all media player, and xmms and bmp are great
clones of it.  ~Ben

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Kristian Erik Hermansen <
kristian.hermansen@...> wrote:

> I wanted to mention that exaile is basically amarok with a gtk
> interface (so you can avoid kde libs) and adds more features.  Exaile
> is awesome.  For people who like total control over their music, I
> would recommend mpd/mpc...
>
>
>
> On 7/1/08, Samuel Baldwin <shardz4217@...> wrote:
> > I used Amarok for ages (I even helped draw icons for them, versions
> > ago), but once I stopped using KDE, I realised it was silly just to
> > install something to play music that had about 50 dependencies. My
> > favourite feature was being able to hit Meta-C and pause my music,
> > then start it again. (Alas, this stopped when I got my Model M, no
> > Meta key.) I tried Audacious for a while, which is just an XMMS clone
> > with some arguably `better' features. Then I used `moc' [1] for a
> > while. Nice ncurses UI, played everything I wanted to locally. The
> > problem arose when I tried to stream flac files, though. Just didn't
> > work. For a while I used mpg123, ogg123, and flac123 to play music,
> > but those didn't support streaming at all. (Or at least flac123
> > didn't.) I wrote a very messy perl script to handle it all, too, but
> > that's long since trashed.
> >
> > A long while back I tried mpd, but it was very buggy for me. Recently
> > I tried it again, and it works absolutely fantastically. I'm using it
> > now. There's some minor setup (editing a configuration file), but
> > anyone should be able to handle that. I keep all my music on one of my
> > servers and stream it with gnump3d [2]. (It's handled every format
> > I've thrown at it, with the proper libraries installed.) Since gnump3d
> > is perl, it runs just fine on various BSD and Linux distros with very
> > minor setup. Just point it at your collection (again, minor editing of
> > a configuration file, from a sample), run it, and you have a very nice
> > web interface to access your music on a port of your choosing. It
> > gives you m3u files when you try to play something, which I keep a
> > collection of in /home/samuel/audio/playlists. Generally it's as
> > simple as loading the playlist with ncmpc. If I kept everything
> > locally, it'd be even easier (ncmpc has a very nice ncurses UI for
> > selecting music and adding it to the playlist.)
> >
> > The very best part about this setup, however, is that because mpd is a
> > daemon, I can control it from various methods. I generally don't have
> > a player window open at all. If I want to check the song playing, I
> > can just punch `mpc' into a console and it spits out the info. To play
> > and pause, I bound Control-Alt-T to pause and Control-Alt-N to play
> > (on dvorak, so J and K on Qwerty) in Xmonad with the lines:
> >
> >     , ((modMask .|. controlMask,  xK_t     ), spawn "mpc pause")
> >     , ((modMask .|. controlMask,  xK_n     ), spawn "mpc play")
> >
> > in my xmonad.hs. (As well as other things such as setting the volume
> > and skipping tracks). It's really the nicest setup I've ever had with
> > my music. Never came across a format that it can't play. (Mainly mp3,
> > ogg, flac, mpc, and wav.)
> >
> > Sorry for the sales pitch, I'm rather passionate about my music software.
> >
> > [1] http://moc.daper.net/
> > [2] http://www.gnu.org/software/gnump3d/
> > --
> > Samuel 'Shardz' Baldwin
> > Shardz's Igloo: staticfree.info/~samuel/<http://staticfree.info/%7Esamuel/>
> > Registered GNU/Linux User #410639
> >
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[markw-4]

> I didn't think xmms was actually still being supported, I thought it all
> switched over to beep media player. If not then for a while I used xmms
> and
> loved it. Then I switched over to beep media player and loved it. I never
> did play movies on it though, always didn't seem to work which suited me
> fine. That was when I got vlc, so like... just my 2c. Basically I found
> winamp to be the be all end all media player, and xmms and bmp are great
> clones of it.  ~Ben

I thought the XMMS project was a spin-off of WinAMP, not a clone.

>
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Kristian Erik Hermansen <
> kristian.hermansen@...> wrote:
>
>> I wanted to mention that exaile is basically amarok with a gtk
>> interface (so you can avoid kde libs) and adds more features.  Exaile
>> is awesome.  For people who like total control over their music, I
>> would recommend mpd/mpc...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/1/08, Samuel Baldwin <shardz4217@...> wrote:
>> > I used Amarok for ages (I even helped draw icons for them, versions
>> > ago), but once I stopped using KDE, I realised it was silly just to
>> > install something to play music that had about 50 dependencies. My
>> > favourite feature was being able to hit Meta-C and pause my music,
>> > then start it again. (Alas, this stopped when I got my Model M, no
>> > Meta key.) I tried Audacious for a while, which is just an XMMS clone
>> > with some arguably `better' features. Then I used `moc' [1] for a
>> > while. Nice ncurses UI, played everything I wanted to locally. The
>> > problem arose when I tried to stream flac files, though. Just didn't
>> > work. For a while I used mpg123, ogg123, and flac123 to play music,
>> > but those didn't support streaming at all. (Or at least flac123
>> > didn't.) I wrote a very messy perl script to handle it all, too, but
>> > that's long since trashed.
>> >
>> > A long while back I tried mpd, but it was very buggy for me. Recently
>> > I tried it again, and it works absolutely fantastically. I'm using it
>> > now. There's some minor setup (editing a configuration file), but
>> > anyone should be able to handle that. I keep all my music on one of my
>> > servers and stream it with gnump3d [2]. (It's handled every format
>> > I've thrown at it, with the proper libraries installed.) Since gnump3d
>> > is perl, it runs just fine on various BSD and Linux distros with very
>> > minor setup. Just point it at your collection (again, minor editing of
>> > a configuration file, from a sample), run it, and you have a very nice
>> > web interface to access your music on a port of your choosing. It
>> > gives you m3u files when you try to play something, which I keep a
>> > collection of in /home/samuel/audio/playlists. Generally it's as
>> > simple as loading the playlist with ncmpc. If I kept everything
>> > locally, it'd be even easier (ncmpc has a very nice ncurses UI for
>> > selecting music and adding it to the playlist.)
>> >
>> > The very best part about this setup, however, is that because mpd is a
>> > daemon, I can control it from various methods. I generally don't have
>> > a player window open at all. If I want to check the song playing, I
>> > can just punch `mpc' into a console and it spits out the info. To play
>> > and pause, I bound Control-Alt-T to pause and Control-Alt-N to play
>> > (on dvorak, so J and K on Qwerty) in Xmonad with the lines:
>> >
>> >     , ((modMask .|. controlMask,  xK_t     ), spawn "mpc pause")
>> >     , ((modMask .|. controlMask,  xK_n     ), spawn "mpc play")
>> >
>> > in my xmonad.hs. (As well as other things such as setting the volume
>> > and skipping tracks). It's really the nicest setup I've ever had with
>> > my music. Never came across a format that it can't play. (Mainly mp3,
>> > ogg, flac, mpc, and wav.)
>> >
>> > Sorry for the sales pitch, I'm rather passionate about my music
>> software.
>> >
>> > [1] http://moc.daper.net/
>> > [2] http://www.gnu.org/software/gnump3d/
>> > --
>> > Samuel 'Shardz' Baldwin
>> > Shardz's Igloo:
>> staticfree.info/~samuel/<http://staticfree.info/%7Esamuel/>
>> > Registered GNU/Linux User #410639
>> >
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[darose]

Ben Holland wrote:
> Basically I found
> winamp to be the be all end all media player, and xmms and bmp are great
> clones of it.  ~Ben


My sentiments exactly!  (Assuming you including audacious in that list,
of course.)

DR

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