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Nabble - MHonArc
2009-01-01T18:17:48Z
MHonArc is a Perl mail-to-HTML converter. MHonArc provides HTML mail archiving with index, mail thread linking, etc; plus other capabilities including support for MIME and powerful user customization features. MHonArc home is <a href="http://www.mhonarc.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">here</a>.
tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-21247344
[bug #25225] dir_create() fails to make temporary directories (PATCH)
2009-01-01T18:17:48Z
2009-01-01T18:17:48Z
Anatoly Sokolov-3
<br>URL:
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<br><br> Summary: dir_create() fails to make temporary directories
<br>(PATCH)
<br> Project: MHonArc
<br> Submitted by: benmwebb
<br> Submitted on: Fri 02 Jan 2009 02:17:45 AM GMT
<br> Category: Mail Parsing
<br> Severity: 3 - Normal
<br> Item Group: Crash Error
<br> Status: None
<br> Privacy: Public
<br> Assigned to: None
<br> Open/Closed: Open
<br> Discussion Lock: Any
<br> Operating System: Linux
<br> Perl Version: 5.10.0
<br> Component Version: 2.6.16
<br> Fixed Release:
<br><br> _______________________________________________________
<br><br>Details:
<br><br>Using MHonArc to produce a web archive of an mbox with a command similar to
<br><br>mhonarc foo.mbox -rcfile foo.rc -outdir archives/2009/
<br><br>(where archives/2009 does not yet exist) fails when it reaches the first
<br>email with an attachment, with an error message similar to
<br><br>ERROR: Unable to rename "archives/2009/dir<random string>" to
<br>"archives/2009/msg00047":
<br><br>However, checking the archives/2009 directory reveals that the msg00047
<br>directory *does* exist, and in fact if the same mhonarc command is rerun it
<br>passes that message successfully - but then fails on the next message with an
<br>attachment (and so on). Also, the directory is created with the wrong
<br>permissions (it is not world-readable, so Apache can't read the attachments).
<br><br>I tracked down the problem to the dir_create() function in mhfile.pl (see
<br>attached patch). If the rename of $tmpdir to $path *succeeds*, the loop
<br>continues until TEMP_MAX_TRIES is exceeded. The attached patch exits the loop
<br>after the first successful rename().
<br><br>BTW, since chmod() is run on the new directory at the end of that function,
<br>perhaps the last 'return' statement should be removed? (And maybe the
<br>second-to-last should become a 'last', but that one I'm not so sure about.)
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<br>By: benmwebb
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[bug #14704] HTML mail does not get its charset converted (patch included)
2008-12-22T07:37:08Z
2008-12-22T07:37:08Z
Anatoly Sokolov-3
<br>Update of bug #14704 (project mhonarc):
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Sorry for spam posts to MHonArc project
2008-12-19T07:01:32Z
2008-12-19T07:01:32Z
Earl Hood
<br>I apologize for the spam posts being done to one of the (old) bug
<br>items for the mhonarc project hosted on savannah (which causes mails
<br>to be sent to this list).
<br><br>I've sent an email to Savannah support requesting that they block
<br>further posts to the bug item and to remove the offending comments
<br>posted.
<br><br>--ewh
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[bug #14704] HTML mail does not get its charset converted (patch included)
2008-12-19T06:33:12Z
2008-12-19T06:33:12Z
Anatoly Sokolov-3
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[bug #14704] HTML mail does not get its charset converted (patch included)
2008-12-18T03:39:46Z
2008-12-18T03:39:46Z
Anatoly Sokolov-3
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[bug #14704] HTML mail does not get its charset converted (patch included)
2008-12-09T04:37:25Z
2008-12-09T04:37:25Z
Anatoly Sokolov-3
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[bug #14704] HTML mail does not get its charset converted (patch included)
2008-12-05T04:07:25Z
2008-12-05T04:07:25Z
Anatoly Sokolov-3
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Re: Showing only one and last email of a mbox in the archive
2008-12-04T19:24:23Z
2008-12-04T19:24:23Z
Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Ganoksin wrote:
<br>> I need to create an archive where only one email is shown. the last one
<br>> received. any suggestion on how to get around it? thanks!
<br><br>Check out the <MAXSIZE> resource.
<br><br>--
<br>Gunnar Hjalmarsson
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Showing only one and last email of a mbox in the archive
2008-12-04T19:12:34Z
2008-12-04T19:12:34Z
Ganoksin
I need to create an archive where only one email is shown. the last one received. any suggestion on how to get around it? thanks!<br>
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tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-20514539
Re: inverted quoting
2008-11-15T03:26:41Z
2008-11-15T03:26:41Z
martin f krafft-2
In the context of this discussion, it might be possible to just
<br>assemble threads in a single place, using the context of new content
<br>based on the quotations. I think
<br><a href="http://harnly.net/publications/Yeh-2006-Email%20Thread%20Reassembly%20Using%20Similarity%20Matching.pdf" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://harnly.net/publications/Yeh-2006-Email%20Thread%20Reassembly%20Using%20Similarity%20Matching.pdf</a><br>may be of interest.
<br><br>Cheers,
<br><br>--
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<br>"i might disagree with what you have to say,
<br> but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
<br> -- voltaire
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inverted quoting
2008-11-10T05:14:16Z
2008-11-10T05:14:16Z
martin f krafft-2
Dear list,
<br><br>It seems to me that quoted replies in emails are somewhat backwards.
<br>The following as an example:
<br><br>| > > Instead of having higher levels of indentation for text that
<br>| > > came first
<br>| >
<br>| > it would make a lot more sense to reverse the indentation,
<br>|
<br>| especially when archiving mails that aren't going to be used by
<br>| a MUA to correspond.
<br><br>I'd say for a web archive, the following would make a lot more
<br>sense:
<br><br>| Text tha came first does not get indented, but instead serves to
<br>| as the main text and anchor
<br>|
<br>| for text which is in reply to the email, which is quotes
<br>|
<br>| which makes it a lot more obvious to the eye.
<br><br>This allows a reader to easily skip interjections simply by not
<br>following indentation levels, and with the proper bit of
<br>XHTML/JavaScript/CSS, replies could even become foldable.
<br><br>I had a brief look at mhonarc and found the plugin architecture that
<br>makes mhonarc a really cool tool.
<br><br>Unfortunately, my Perl-skills are non-existent. Fortunately, my
<br>girlfriend knows the language a bit better, and so she threw
<br>together the attached script yesterday, which takes a message and
<br>outputs HTML which does the inversion. It is proof-of-concept and
<br>several rough edges need to be smoothed out.
<br><br>Do you think it is possible to write a mhonarc plugin on the basis
<br>of this logic? Would anyone like to give it a shot?
<br><br>--
<br>martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
<br> \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
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<br><br /><hr align="left" width="300" /><tt>#!/usr/bin/perl -w
<br>#
<br># mail2html-invert - converts a mail to HTML and inverts the quoting
<br>#
<br># Copyright © 2008 Penny Leach <penny at mjollnir.org>
<br># Released under the GPLv2
<br>#
<br><br>use strict;
<br>use warnings;
<br>use Text::Quoted;
<br>use HTML::Entities;
<br><br># configurable bits
<br>my $printblockquotes = 1; # change this to 0 if you want <p class="leveln"> instead of <blockquote><blockquote> etc
<br>my $title = 'email'; # this could helpfully extract the names in the email or such
<br><br><br><br>my $raw; # raw body of message
<br>my $bodystarted; # flag for end of headers
<br>my @newstructure; # post-processed structure
<br>my $maxlevel = 0; # for inverting indenting
<br><br>print <<EOH;
<br><!DOCTYPE html
<br> PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
<br> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<br><html>
<br> <head>
<br> <title>$title</title>
<br> </head>
<br> <body>
<br> <p class="headers">
<br><br>EOH
<br><br>while (<STDIN>) {
<br> if (/^$/ && !$bodystarted) { # empty line, start processing body after this
<br> $bodystarted = 1;
<br> print "</p>\n"; # end the paragraph containing headers
<br> next;
<br> }
<br><br> unless ($bodystarted) { # if we're still processing headers, just print them
<br> chomp;
<br> print encode_entities($_) . "<br />\n";
<br> next;
<br> }
<br><br> $raw .= $_;
<br>}
<br><br># convert the raw body to some whack datastructure provide but Text::Quoted
<br>my $structure = extract($raw);
<br><br>foreach my $item (@$structure) {
<br> # process the weird format we have and turn it into something sensible and flatter
<br> handleitem($item);
<br>}
<br><br># each 'item' is basically one lump of text with an indent level, which we invert
<br>foreach my $item (@newstructure) {
<br> my $invertedlevel = $maxlevel - $item->{level};
<br> my $escaped = encode_entities($item->{text});
<br> unless ($printblockquotes) {
<br> print '<p class="level' . $invertedlevel . '">' . $escaped . '</p>' . "\n";
<br> next;
<br> }
<br> my $pre = '';
<br> my $post = '';
<br> for (1..$invertedlevel) { $pre .= '<blockquote>'; $post .= '</blockquote>'; }
<br> print $pre . '<p>' . $escaped . '</p>' . $post . "\n";
<br><br>}
<br><br>print " </body>\n</html>\n";
<br><br><br># --------------------------------------------------
<br><br># extract gives us back a weird structure that contains an array of either hashes or arrays
<br># flatten it and add it into @newstructure with an indent level
<br>sub handleitem {
<br> my $item = shift;
<br> my $level = shift || 0;
<br> $maxlevel = $level if $maxlevel < $level;
<br> if (ref $item eq 'HASH') {
<br> return if $item->{empty};
<br> push @newstructure, { 'text' => $item->{text}, 'level' => $level};
<br> }
<br> elsif (ref $item eq 'ARRAY') {
<br> foreach my $newitem (@$item) {
<br> handleitem($newitem, $level+1);
<br> }
<br> }
<br>}
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[bug #24247] iso2022jp.pl: unneeded ESC ( B remains in message body
2008-09-12T00:31:48Z
2008-09-12T00:31:48Z
Anatoly Sokolov-3
<br>URL:
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<br><br> Summary: iso2022jp.pl: unneeded ESC ( B remains in message
<br>body
<br> Project: MHonArc
<br> Submitted by: ppp2
<br> Submitted on: 2008年09月12日 07時31分46秒
<br> Category: Character Sets
<br> Severity: 3 - Normal
<br> Item Group: Incorrect Behavior
<br> Status: None
<br> Privacy: Public
<br> Assigned to: None
<br> Open/Closed: Open
<br> Discussion Lock: Any
<br> Operating System: All
<br> Perl Version: 5.8.7
<br> Component Version: 2.6.16
<br> Fixed Release:
<br><br> _______________________________________________________
<br><br>Details:
<br><br>iso2022jp.pl adds `ESC ( B's at the beginning of each line
<br>(@lines) which starts ASCII chars to simplify the program
<br>code.
<br>Of course, they should be removed after htmlization, but are
<br>not correctly removed.
<br>The attached patch fixes this problem.
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[bug #23937] layout messes up on nonprintable characters sent by pidgin
2008-07-27T17:05:18Z
2008-07-27T17:05:18Z
Anatoly Sokolov-3
<br>Follow-up Comment #1, bug #23937 (project mhonarc):
<br><br>weird, savannah sent my bug report to a completely different project.
<br><br>Sorry, this ticket is for another project. Please close :D
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[bug #23937] layout messes up on nonprintable characters sent by pidgin
2008-07-25T17:59:48Z
2008-07-25T17:59:48Z
Anatoly Sokolov-3
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<br><br> Summary: layout messes up on nonprintable characters sent by
<br>pidgin
<br> Project: MHonArc
<br> Submitted by: bunz
<br> Submitted on: Friday 07/25/2008 at 20:59
<br> Category: None
<br> Severity: 3 - Normal
<br> Item Group: Undesired Behavior
<br> Status: None
<br> Privacy: Public
<br> Assigned to: None
<br> Open/Closed: Open
<br> Discussion Lock: Any
<br> Operating System: Linux
<br> Perl Version: 5.8.8
<br> Component Version: 0.2.7dev (git)
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<br><br>pidgin's irc sends some weird characters which cause weechat window layout
<br>(the nick align, nick list border) to shift.
<br><br>I've attached a screenshot of the behavior, and also the output from /debug
<br>buffer, with the weird three byte sequence highlighted.
<br><br>pidgin doesn't always send these, but one reliable way for me to reproduce it
<br>is to copy and paste a long string from somewhere into the pidgin input widget
<br>(looks fine in gtk) and hitting enter.
<br><br>may be a bug in pidgin but weechat should nevertheless silently ignore these.
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Re: RFC 5064 Archived-At header
2008-07-07T09:36:37Z
2008-07-07T09:36:37Z
Earl Hood
On July 7, 2008 at 11:43, Barry Warsaw wrote:
<br><br>> Actually RFC 3548 defines a "url safe" base64 alphabet which substitutes -
<br>> and _ for + and /. Python's base64 library supports this and I propose
<br>> using this alternative alphabet if we go with base64.
<br><br>I did not know there was an RFC for this.
<br><br>The RFC is marked as "Informational", so how widely used is
<br>the URL-safe base64 encoding used?
<br><br>Nothing is currently listed in the IETF assignments for this
<br>type of encoding:
<br><a href="http://www.iana.org/assignments/transfer-encodings" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.iana.org/assignments/transfer-encodings</a><br><br>I have no problems going with it, as long as it is documented.
<br>However, from a usability perspective (possibly), the use
<br>of understrike can be a problem.
<br><br>For example, links are normally rendered with an underline, and
<br>this rendering behavior can "hide" an understrike character, making
<br>the URL appear to have a space in it.
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Re: RFC 5064 Archived-At header
2008-07-07T08:36:57Z
2008-07-07T08:36:57Z
Earl Hood
On July 3, 2008 at 10:52, Barry Warsaw wrote:
<br><br>> You may be right that the readability argument is specious. It may be that
<br>> cut-n-paste is the overwhelming use case for archived-at. Does that mean
<br>> you'd argue for the slightly shorter base64 encoding of the hash?
<br><br>I have no strong feelings on this matter, but base64 does allow
<br>for the '/' character, which can be a problem for usage within
<br>URLs since it is a path separator.
<br><br>That alone may make base32 the better choice, even though it
<br>will lead to a longer string.
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Re: RFC 5064 Archived-At header
2008-07-02T23:44:56Z
2008-07-02T23:44:56Z
Jeff Breidenbach
>Will someone provide some real use case scenarios of how the<br>
>archived-at URL gets used by a message receipient. If I have<br>
>the message locally, do I care where it is archived?<br><br>It's handy if you are writing a blog. For example, Linux Weekly <br>News reports on the Linux Kernel mailing list. They quote <br>particular messages, and provide an archival link. This lets readers<br>
examine the (possibly active) thread.<br><br><a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/286910/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://lwn.net/Articles/286910/</a><br><a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/287490/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://lwn.net/Articles/287490/</a><br><br><br><br><br>
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Re: RFC 5064 Archived-At header
2008-07-02T23:11:23Z
2008-07-02T23:11:23Z
Earl Hood
On July 3, 2008 at 00:57, Barry Warsaw wrote:
<br><br>> I've just updated the current proposal on the Mailman wiki:
<br>>
<br>> <a href="http://wiki.list.org/x/yQAM" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.list.org/x/yQAM</a><br>>
<br>> See specifically the Open Issues section. The most straight-forward
<br>> way to implement this leads to long, unusable (in our opinion) urls.
<br>> Shortening the urls would require quite a bit of additional
<br>> implementation complexity. What to do?
<br><br>Quick editorial comment: in the "Open issues" section, you write:
<br><br> "... Mail-Archive.com uses MHonArc which requires the use of the
<br> list name in the url."
<br><br>This is misleading wrt mhonarc. Mhonarc imposes no requirement on
<br>how an archive is structured on the file system from a pathname
<br>perspective. The convention is something imposed by the user.
<br><br><br>As for "readable URLs", I still think it may be a bogus concern.
<br>Usability testing would have to be done to verify if this concern
<br>is real.
<br><br>Wrt this context, it seems most will "click" on the URL in the mail
<br>message, or copy-n-paste it.
<br><br>And even then, I wonder how much the link will actually get used.
<br>Will someone provide some real use case scenarios of how the
<br>archived-at URL gets used by a message receipient. If I have
<br>the message locally, do I care where it is archived?
<br><br>One reasonable case I can think of is if a receipient wants
<br>to tell others about the message, and instead of forwarding
<br>the message they got, they just send a URL to it, which would
<br>allows others to following subsequent follow-ups if they are
<br>not subscribed to the list.
<br><br>Or, they bookmark the link so they can always go back to the
<br>message w/o having to archive in their local MUA.
<br><br>Either scenario implies the user can either do a couple of clicks
<br>or just copy-n-paste the URL to their bookmark manager.
<br><br>This implies the archive-at URL is mainly for bookmarking purposes. I.e.
<br>I go to the archive and read some messages (or got their via a search).
<br>I see a message of interest, and want to bookmark it so I can go back
<br>to it directly.
<br><br>--ewh
<br><br>P.S. When time permits, I will look into mhonarc to see if it can
<br>be changed so the filenames it uses for messages can be based on
<br>Stable URL since stable filenames has been a problem for mhonarc.
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[approved] RFC 5064 Archived-At header
2008-07-02T21:57:06Z
2008-07-02T21:57:06Z
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<br><br>Hello MHonArc and Mailman developers.
<br><br>RFC 5064 describes the Archived-At header, which is used to point
<br>directly to the archived version of a mailing list mail message. The
<br>value of this header could also be used in a message body footer, such
<br>as the type that Mailman typically adds to its list copy of the
<br>message. Supporting this would be a big improvement in usability for
<br>mailing lists and is an often requested feature of Mailman.
<br><br>We have been having some off-list discussions recently between Jeff
<br>Marshall and Jeff Breidenbach of the Mail-Archive.com, Earl Hood of
<br>the MHonArc project and myself on approaches that would provide for
<br>support of RFC 5064 Archived-At headers. The RFC itself is agnostic
<br>on how to calculate the value of this header, but it does provide some
<br>suggestions. On the mailman-developers mailing list a while ago we
<br>discussed several ways of calculating this header, and in our private
<br>discussions, we've refined our thoughts. We're now at something of an
<br>impasse, where the specific approach requires us to make some trade-
<br>offs between implementation choices and usability. It's now time to
<br>get your feedback.
<br><br>I've just updated the current proposal on the Mailman wiki:
<br><br><a href="http://wiki.list.org/x/yQAM" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.list.org/x/yQAM</a><br><br>See specifically the Open Issues section. The most straight-forward
<br>way to implement this leads to long, unusable (in our opinion) urls.
<br>Shortening the urls would require quite a bit of additional
<br>implementation complexity. What to do?
<br><br>It's time to open this up to your ideas, but let me say that from
<br>Mailman(3)'s perspective, the exact algorithm probably doesn't matter
<br>much. I have a bzr branch that implements the interfaces and
<br>infrastructure for archiver plugins, so if MHonArc, Pipermail, and
<br>Mail-Archive.com all chose different algorithms, we can fairly easily
<br>write a different plugin for each. Still, it would be good to
<br>standardize on a usable, implementable approach.
<br><br>I invite you to read the wiki page, and comment either there or as a
<br>follow up to this message. I am not on the mhonarc-dev mailing list.
<br><br>Cheers,
<br>- -Barry
<br>P.S. mhonarc-devs: I apologize in advance for the replybot on my email
<br>address.
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Re: Incorporating Messages Already in mhonarc Format
2008-06-10T11:39:00Z
2008-06-10T11:39:00Z
Douglas Kline-2
> Douglas Kline wrote:
<br>> > We are running MHonArc v2.4.6 under Linux Fedora Core 6.
<br>> >
<br>> > I would like to ask how to incorporate messages and associated attachment f
<br>iles
<br>> > which are already in mhonarc format into a mhonarc archive. These messages
<br>> > were built into an archive which is no longer in use. The e-mail spooling
<br>> > files which mhonarc read to process these messages are no longer available.
<br>>
<br>> One way might be to make use of the mhn2mbox.pl program. See
<br>> <a href="http://www.mhonarc.org/MHonArc/contrib/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.mhonarc.org/MHonArc/contrib/</a><br><br><br>Thanks. That worked. It created a spooling-type file which I then read with
<br>mhonarc to incorporate the messages into the archive where we wanted them.
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Re: Incorporating Messages Already in mhonarc Format
2008-06-06T17:08:19Z
2008-06-06T17:08:19Z
Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Douglas Kline wrote:
<br>> We are running MHonArc v2.4.6 under Linux Fedora Core 6.
<br>>
<br>> I would like to ask how to incorporate messages and associated attachment files
<br>> which are already in mhonarc format into a mhonarc archive. These messages
<br>> were built into an archive which is no longer in use. The e-mail spooling
<br>> files which mhonarc read to process these messages are no longer available.
<br><br>One way might be to make use of the mhn2mbox.pl program. See
<br><a href="http://www.mhonarc.org/MHonArc/contrib/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.mhonarc.org/MHonArc/contrib/</a><br><br>--
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Incorporating Messages Already in mhonarc Format
2008-06-06T16:55:06Z
2008-06-06T16:55:06Z
Douglas Kline-2
<br>We are running MHonArc v2.4.6 under Linux Fedora Core 6.
<br><br>I would like to ask how to incorporate messages and associated attachment files
<br>which are already in mhonarc format into a mhonarc archive. These messages
<br>were built into an archive which is no longer in use. The e-mail spooling
<br>files which mhonarc read to process these messages are no longer available. So
<br>we want to build these messages into an archive which has already been built.
<br>How can we accomplish that?
<br><br>TIA.
<br><br>Douglas Kline
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Automatically creating short URL's?
2008-06-06T08:05:16Z
2008-06-06T08:05:16Z
David Gibbs-2
Folks:
<br><br>Has anyone considered the idea of using one of the URL shortening
<br>services (tinyurl.com, etc) to automatically process URI's in messages
<br>processed by mhonarc?
<br><br>When people on my lists post URL's, they are quite often long and
<br>unwieldy ... it would be nice if I could automatically translate those
<br>long URI's into shorter versions.
<br><br>Thanks!
<br><br>david
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Re: Removing Mssgs., Inconsistency
2008-05-26T15:25:02Z
2008-05-26T15:25:02Z
Douglas Kline-2
> On May 5, 2008 at 18:19, Douglas Kline wrote:
<br>>
<br>> > I wanted to expunge an accumulation of spam, When other attempts left the
<br>> > links to messages in the index file and in the message files pointing to th
<br>e
<br>> > wrong files, I decided to reconstitute the archive from scratch. I started
<br>> > with an empty directory and ran mhonarc on all of the spooling-type files o
<br>f
<br>> > messages. Then I recompiled the list of spam messages because I couldn't u
<br>se
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> > the previous list because the message numbers might be different. Then I
<br>> > converted the spam message file names to message numbers and ran
<br>>
<br>> FYI, message number consistency is a known limitation wrt to
<br>> rebuilding archives. I.e. If you rebuild an archive, but the
<br>> set of messages have changed from the original archive set, then
<br>> message numbers will not match.
<br>>
<br>> mharc works around this problem by utilizing namazu's message-id
<br>> index to allow own to have "permanent" location for a message.
<br>>
<br>> > with the list of message numbers as arguments.
<br>> >
<br>> > That removed those files. So far as I can tell, the links in the message f
</div>il
<br>> > es
<br>> > to other message files are now correct. It also re-wrote the .mhonarc.db f
<br>il
<br>> > e.
<br>> > So that part worked.
<br>>
<br>> IIRC, you may want to run some tests on the latest version of mhonarc.
<br>> I do not know when, but some of the logic for tagging things to update
<br>> on message removal were improved (check NEWS file).
<br>>
<br>> > The index files (date1.html, date2.html, auth1.html, thrd1.html, etc.) stil
<br>l
<br>> > had references to the deleted spam messages. So next I ran the command we
<br>ru
<br>> > n
<br>> > routinely to incorporate new messages with a dummy message to re-write the
<br>> > indices. The dummy message was necessary because if it doesn't find any ne
<br>w
<br>> > messages it won't act. That worked too.
<br>>
<br>> Have you tried -editidx? It rewrites ALL archive pages.
<br>>
<br>> > Then I ran the scripts which compile the master indices (datedir.html,
<br>> > authdir.html, thrddir.html) and that worked.
<br>> >
<br>> > So what's the problem? Some of the links in the message files to indices a
<br>re
<br>> > wrong. They refer to non-existent date[0-9]*.html, auth[0-9]*.html, and
<br>> > thrd[0-9]*.html files. How can I fix that?
<br>>
<br>> See comments above. Later versions of mhonarc may fix this.
<br>>
<br>> Also, -editidx should provide a brute-force way to correct the files.
<br>>
<br>> --ewh
<br><br><br>Thanks for the suggestions, ewh. "-editidx" worked. I found that unlike most
<br>mhonarc operations this had to be run from the directory with the .html files
<br>rather than referencing that directory with the "-outdir" option. We will
<br>follow up on your suggestion of looking into a more recent version of mhonarc.
<br><br>Douglas Kline
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<br>Douglas M. Kline
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[bug #23198] Incorrect Setting Installation Directory
2008-05-07T11:10:18Z
2008-05-07T11:10:18Z
Anatoly Sokolov-3
<br>URL:
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<br><br> Summary: Incorrect Setting Installation Directory
<br> Project: MHonArc
<br> Submitted by: imacat
<br> Submitted on: Thursday 05/08/2008 at 02:10
<br> Category: Installation
<br> Severity: 3 - Normal
<br> Item Group: Installation
<br> Status: None
<br> Privacy: Public
<br> Assigned to: None
<br> Open/Closed: Open
<br> Discussion Lock: Any
<br> Operating System: All
<br> Perl Version: 5.8.8
<br> Component Version: 2.6.16
<br> Fixed Release:
<br><br> _______________________________________________________
<br><br>Details:
<br><br>Dear all,
<br><br> Hi. This is imacat from Taiwan. I found that the Makefile.PL in
<br>MHonArc-2.6.16 does not handle installation path correctly. It sets "-prefix"
<br>as $opt_binpath, and "-prefix" as $opt_manpath.
<br><br> I made a simple patch again MHonArc-2.6.16, in the hope that it helps.
<br>Please tell me if you need any more information, or if I could be of any help.
<br> Thank you.
<br><br><br><br> _______________________________________________________
<br><br>File Attachments:
<br><br><br>-------------------------------------------------------
<br>Date: Thursday 05/08/2008 at 02:10 Name: MHonArc-2.6.16-instdirs.diff Size:
<br>1kB By: imacat
<br>Patch to Fix Installation Directory in Makefile.PL
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Re: Removing Mssgs., Inconsistency
2008-05-05T17:32:10Z
2008-05-05T17:32:10Z
Earl Hood
On May 5, 2008 at 18:19, Douglas Kline wrote:
<br><br>> I wanted to expunge an accumulation of spam, When other attempts left the
<br>> links to messages in the index file and in the message files pointing to the
<br>> wrong files, I decided to reconstitute the archive from scratch. I started
<br>> with an empty directory and ran mhonarc on all of the spooling-type files of
<br>> messages. Then I recompiled the list of spam messages because I couldn't use
<br>> the previous list because the message numbers might be different. Then I
<br>> converted the spam message file names to message numbers and ran
<br><br>FYI, message number consistency is a known limitation wrt to
<br>rebuilding archives. I.e. If you rebuild an archive, but the
<br>set of messages have changed from the original archive set, then
<br>message numbers will not match.
<br><br>mharc works around this problem by utilizing namazu's message-id
<br>index to allow own to have "permanent" location for a message.
<br><br>> with the list of message numbers as arguments.
<br>>
<br>> That removed those files. So far as I can tell, the links in the message fil
<br>> es
<br>> to other message files are now correct. It also re-wrote the .mhonarc.db fil
<br>> e.
<br>> So that part worked.
<br><br>IIRC, you may want to run some tests on the latest version of mhonarc.
<br>I do not know when, but some of the logic for tagging things to update
<br>on message removal were improved (check NEWS file).
<br><br>> The index files (date1.html, date2.html, auth1.html, thrd1.html, etc.) still
<br>> had references to the deleted spam messages. So next I ran the command we ru
<br>> n
<br>> routinely to incorporate new messages with a dummy message to re-write the
<br>> indices. The dummy message was necessary because if it doesn't find any new
<br>> messages it won't act. That worked too.
<br><br>Have you tried -editidx? It rewrites ALL archive pages.
<br><br>> Then I ran the scripts which compile the master indices (datedir.html,
<br>> authdir.html, thrddir.html) and that worked.
<br>>
<br>> So what's the problem? Some of the links in the message files to indices are
<br>> wrong. They refer to non-existent date[0-9]*.html, auth[0-9]*.html, and
<br>> thrd[0-9]*.html files. How can I fix that?
<br><br>See comments above. Later versions of mhonarc may fix this.
<br><br>Also, -editidx should provide a brute-force way to correct the files.
<br><br>--ewh
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tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-17072209
Removing Mssgs., Inconsistency
2008-05-05T15:19:53Z
2008-05-05T15:19:53Z
Douglas Kline-2
<br>We are running MHonArc v2.4.6 under Linux Fedora Core 6.
<br><br>I wanted to expunge an accumulation of spam, When other attempts left the
<br>links to messages in the index file and in the message files pointing to the
<br>wrong files, I decided to reconstitute the archive from scratch. I started
<br>with an empty directory and ran mhonarc on all of the spooling-type files of
<br>messages. Then I recompiled the list of spam messages because I couldn't use
<br>the previous list because the message numbers might be different. Then I
<br>converted the spam message file names to message numbers and ran
<br><br><br>mhonarc -rmm
<br><br><br>with the list of message numbers as arguments.
<br><br>That removed those files. So far as I can tell, the links in the message files
<br>to other message files are now correct. It also re-wrote the .mhonarc.db file.
<br>So that part worked.
<br><br>The index files (date1.html, date2.html, auth1.html, thrd1.html, etc.) still
<br>had references to the deleted spam messages. So next I ran the command we run
<br>routinely to incorporate new messages with a dummy message to re-write the
<br>indices. The dummy message was necessary because if it doesn't find any new
<br>messages it won't act. That worked too.
<br><br>Then I ran the scripts which compile the master indices (datedir.html,
<br>authdir.html, thrddir.html) and that worked.
<br><br>So what's the problem? Some of the links in the message files to indices are
<br>wrong. They refer to non-existent date[0-9]*.html, auth[0-9]*.html, and
<br>thrd[0-9]*.html files. How can I fix that?
<br><br>TIA.
<br><br>Douglas Kline
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tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-16608899
[bug #5473] directory separator for attachments on W2K
2008-04-10T04:38:51Z
2008-04-10T04:38:51Z
Anatoly Sokolov-3
<br>Follow-up Comment #3, bug #5473 (project mhonarc):
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Re: mhutil.pl patch (was Re: references being converted to mailto links)
2008-03-31T08:10:41Z
2008-03-31T08:10:41Z
Earl Hood
On March 30, 2008 at 15:32, Wolfgang Dautermann wrote:
<br><br>> What problem?
<br><br>That addressmodifycode affects message-id and references.
<br><br>> This is not the solution for my bugreport concerning
<br>> Fieldorder/Adressmodifycode (<a href="http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?17904" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?17904</a>),
<br>> right? (that the 'references' should be included in %HFieldsAsIsList I
<br>> wrote there...)
<br><br>The patch should fix the bug reported also.
<br><br>--ewh
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Re: mhutil.pl patch (was Re: references being converted to mailto links)
2008-03-30T06:32:19Z
2008-03-30T06:32:19Z
Wolfgang Dautermann-2
Earl Hood schrieb:
<br>> Attached is a patch for MHonArc v2.6.16 for the file mhutil.pl (in
<br>> the lib directory of the distribution) that should fix the problem.
<br><br>What problem?
<br><br>This is not the solution for my bugreport concerning
<br>Fieldorder/Adressmodifycode (<a href="http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?17904" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?17904</a>),
<br>right? (that the 'references' should be included in %HFieldsAsIsList I
<br>wrote there...)
<br><br>Best regards, Wolfgang
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mhutil.pl patch (was Re: references being converted to mailto links)
2008-03-26T17:53:06Z
2008-03-26T17:53:06Z
Earl Hood
[Sending to list since this may be of use to others.]
<br><br>On March 26, 2008 at 18:29, James M Galvin wrote:
<br><br>> I'm sorry to send this back to you directly. I know you'd rather
<br>> folks not do that.
<br><br>No problem.
<br><br>Attached is a patch for MHonArc v2.6.16 for the file mhutil.pl (in
<br>the lib directory of the distribution) that should fix the problem.
<br><br>NOTE: Only archives that render the References and In-Reply-To
<br>header fields are affected by this problem, and if you have
<br>SPAMMODE and/or ADDRESSMODIFYCODE enabled. Rendering of such
<br>fields are common for those that do little customization to
<br>how message headers are rendered.
<br><br>Please try out and report back if you have success or if
<br>the problem persists.
<br><br>Thanks,
<br><br>--ewh
<br><br><br />Index: lib/mhutil.pl
<br>===================================================================
<br>RCS file: /home/users/mhonarc.org/ehood/cvs/mhonarc/mhonarc/MHonArc/lib/mhutil.pl,v
<br>retrieving revision 2.32
<br>diff -u -r2.32 mhutil.pl
<br>--- lib/mhutil.pl 8 Jul 2005 05:27:53 -0000 2.32
<br>+++ lib/mhutil.pl 27 Mar 2008 00:26:28 -0000
<br>@@ -46,6 +46,8 @@
<br> 'content-id' => 1,
<br> 'content-type' => 1,
<br> 'message-id' => 1,
<br>+ 'references' => 1,
<br>+ 'in-reply-to' => 1,
<br> );
<br>
<br> ## Header fields that contain addresses
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Re: references being converted to mailto links
2008-03-26T15:18:51Z
2008-03-26T15:18:51Z
James Galvin-4
<br><br>-- On Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:16 AM -0500 Earl Hood
<br><<a href="http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=16317905&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">earl@...</a>> wrote regarding Re: references being converted
<br>to mailto links --
<br><br>> I would need some sample messages, resource files, and
<br>> command-line invocation arguments to do any further analysis.
<br><br>I still haven't figured out what is going on, so I'm sending these
<br>under separate cover to you.
<br><br>I appreciate any pointers you might have.
<br><br>Jim
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Re: references being converted to mailto links
2008-03-26T07:16:26Z
2008-03-26T07:16:26Z
Earl Hood
On March 24, 2008 at 14:11, James Galvin wrote:
<br><br>> I'm working with a site that recently did an upgrade from version
<br>> 2.6.10 to version 2.6.16. However, an odd thing happened.
<br>>
<br>> Immediately after the cut-over all messages with a references
<br>> header had those elements converted to Mailto: links instead of
<br>> being references to the actually prior messages.
<br>>
<br>> I have looked through the documentation and the archive but nothing
<br>> I found seems applicable in this case.
<br><br>I would need some sample messages, resource files, and command-line
<br>invocation arguments to do any further analysis.
<br><br>--ewh
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references being converted to mailto links
2008-03-24T11:11:29Z
2008-03-24T11:11:29Z
James Galvin-4
I'm working with a site that recently did an upgrade from version
<br>2.6.10 to version 2.6.16. However, an odd thing happened.
<br><br>Immediately after the cut-over all messages with a references
<br>header had those elements converted to Mailto: links instead of
<br>being references to the actually prior messages.
<br><br>I have looked through the documentation and the archive but nothing
<br>I found seems applicable in this case.
<br><br>Have I overlooked something obvious? Has anyone encountered this
<br>before?
<br><br>Any pointers would be appreciated.
<br><br>For completeness, no special actions were taken for the conversion.
<br>We just installed and started using v2.6.16.
<br><br>Thanks!
<br><br>Jim
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Re: mobile archives?
2008-03-20T14:38:02Z
2008-03-20T14:38:02Z
Earl Hood
On March 20, 2008 at 10:13, David Gibbs wrote:
<br><br>> Does anyone have a mrc file that generates content specifically designed
<br>> for a mobile web site (iphone, pda phone, etc)?
<br><br>I do not know of any off-hand.
<br><br>If you are unsure what to do, please provide information on how
<br>you would like your pages to look and we may be able to
<br>provide guidance on the resources that need to be defined.
<br><br>--ewh
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