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Linux+JDK6+Java IDE LiveCD

by Jacob Catayoc :: Rate this Message:

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Hello all,

I'm looking for an existing distribution of a Live CD containing Linux, JDK6
and any Java IDE. Does anyone know where this can be found?

I've been searching for the Internet, and found some links, but some of them
were no longer working (ETIX), some are not using JDK6 (SNAPPIX, which uses
a non-Sun JDK, DevelopGo which uses JDK 1.4.2). I've even found links where
I can customize a BartPE CD containing Java, but Windows licensing
restrictions will prevent me from doing so.

I'm going to teach Java to professionals who have no prior programming
background. Problem is I don't want to mess up with the classroom computers
being filled with viruses that eats up my time in the class just to fix, and
I also want to cut the time it eats for installing the software.

While I'm not requiring JDK6 (I think DevelopGo would suit me, but I've yet
to try it as I'm still downloading it now), but I would prefer if I can
already introduce new constructs available with the latest version.

Regards,

Jake Catayoc

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Re: Linux+JDK6+Java IDE LiveCD

by Xander Solis :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Jake,

Good day.

Just an idea though, You might want to look at installing Linux in a VM (you
can use Virtualbox(http://www.virtualbox.org/) for this.) then installing
the jdk, then using the VM for presentation purposes. This might give you
the opportunity as well to give a copy of the VM Image to your students for
their own use which already have the Java code they have worked on in their
class.

Hope this helps,


On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Jacob Catayoc <jcatayoc@...> wrote:

>   Hello all,
>
> I'm looking for an existing distribution of a Live CD containing Linux,
> JDK6 and any Java IDE. Does anyone know where this can be found?
>
> I've been searching for the Internet, and found some links, but some of
> them were no longer working (ETIX), some are not using JDK6 (SNAPPIX, which
> uses a non-Sun JDK, DevelopGo which uses JDK 1.4.2). I've even found links
> where I can customize a BartPE CD containing Java, but Windows licensing
> restrictions will prevent me from doing so.
>
> I'm going to teach Java to professionals who have no prior programming
> background. Problem is I don't want to mess up with the classroom computers
> being filled with viruses that eats up my time in the class just to fix, and
> I also want to cut the time it eats for installing the software.
>
> While I'm not requiring JDK6 (I think DevelopGo would suit me, but I've yet
> to try it as I'm still downloading it now), but I would prefer if I can
> already introduce new constructs available with the latest version.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jake Catayoc
>
> --
> XSYS - Your Absolute ICT Solutions Provider
> Visit us at http://www.xsys-inc.com and let us know how we can help you.
>  
>



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Re: Linux+JDK6+Java IDE LiveCD

by Jacob Catayoc :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Xander,

As much as possible I don't want to install Linux from scratch and burn a
new CD since it takes too much time. But I guess if there's no existing
LiveCDs with JDK6 around then I have no choice but to do it. :-(

Also, I need the LiveCD to be able to read USB sticks so they can just
create their code using the LiveCD and save their work on the USB.

Regarding this VM, do they run it on top of their Windows PCs? Can they boot
it from their PCs before starting Windows instead?

I'll take a look at this. Thanks for your help!

Regards,
Jake

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Xander Solis <xrsolis@...> wrote:

>   Hi Jake,
>
> Good day.
>
> Just an idea though, You might want to look at installing Linux in a VM
> (you can use Virtualbox(http://www.virtualbox.org/) for this.) then
> installing the jdk, then using the VM for presentation purposes. This might
> give you the opportunity as well to give a copy of the VM Image to your
> students for their own use which already have the Java code they have worked
> on in their class.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Jacob Catayoc <jcatayoc@...>
> wrote:
>
>>   Hello all,
>>
>> I'm looking for an existing distribution of a Live CD containing Linux,
>> JDK6 and any Java IDE. Does anyone know where this can be found?
>>
>> I've been searching for the Internet, and found some links, but some of
>> them were no longer working (ETIX), some are not using JDK6 (SNAPPIX, which
>> uses a non-Sun JDK, DevelopGo which uses JDK 1.4.2). I've even found links
>> where I can customize a BartPE CD containing Java, but Windows licensing
>> restrictions will prevent me from doing so.
>>
>> I'm going to teach Java to professionals who have no prior programming
>> background. Problem is I don't want to mess up with the classroom computers
>> being filled with viruses that eats up my time in the class just to fix, and
>> I also want to cut the time it eats for installing the software.
>>
>> While I'm not requiring JDK6 (I think DevelopGo would suit me, but I've
>> yet to try it as I'm still downloading it now), but I would prefer if I can
>> already introduce new constructs available with the latest version.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jake Catayoc
>>
>> --
>> XSYS - Your Absolute ICT Solutions Provider
>> Visit us at http://www.xsys-inc.com and let us know how we can help you.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Xander Solis
> xrsolis.blogspot.com
>
>
>



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Re: Linux+JDK6+Java IDE LiveCD

by sonnyG@yahoogroups :: Rate this Message:

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    * You might want to try Remastersys
<http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-with-remasters\
ys.html>  in Ubuntu. This allows you to create your custom Ubuntu
distribution, with all your example files, Netbeans IDE for example,
JRE/JDK 6, and subversion. Although, you might want to strip it down as
much as you can as this won't fit in a CD. a DVD perhaps, which may
present another problem...

    * Another alternative for this is AptOnCd
<http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/>  . You can have your ide, and java,
and other packages in a separate cd. so after you distribute the cd (the
distro), along is the other cd with the packages (jdk,jre,ide).
    * However, the best you can really do to cut the time from setting up
is vmware. DSL (damn small linux) can handle netbeans and java very
lightly. very light to virtualize - instead of ubuntu images. can take
about 8 other users (lag free) connected on a 1.6 Celeron - Ubuntu/XP
images takes about 2/3. Before, I stuck 20 dsls in a P4 2.8 and got 15
computers working free from lag.
Apart from this, you can reduce the JRE - ala "Java Kernel" now, or wait
for it in Java 7.
This can microsize the java if you ever got to that problem. :D Nwei,
other stuff aside -

Just my two centavos. :D
SonnyG


--- In pinoyjug@..., "Jacob Catayoc" <jcatayoc@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm looking for an existing distribution of a Live CD containing
Linux, JDK6
> and any Java IDE. Does anyone know where this can be found?
>
> I've been searching for the Internet, and found some links, but some
of them
> were no longer working (ETIX), some are not using JDK6 (SNAPPIX, which
uses
> a non-Sun JDK, DevelopGo which uses JDK 1.4.2). I've even found links
where
> I can customize a BartPE CD containing Java, but Windows licensing
> restrictions will prevent me from doing so.
>
> I'm going to teach Java to professionals who have no prior programming
> background. Problem is I don't want to mess up with the classroom
computers
> being filled with viruses that eats up my time in the class just to
fix, and
> I also want to cut the time it eats for installing the software.
>
> While I'm not requiring JDK6 (I think DevelopGo would suit me, but
I've yet
> to try it as I'm still downloading it now), but I would prefer if I
can
> already introduce new constructs available with the latest version.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jake Catayoc
>
> --
> XSYS - Your Absolute ICT Solutions Provider
> Visit us at http://www.xsys-inc.com and let us know how we can help
you.
>


Re: Linux+JDK6+Java IDE LiveCD

by Xander Solis :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Jake,

As far as I know, most LiveCD's now have automount (tried Fedora9,
BackTrack3), so it should not be an issue. I agree with sonnyG that small
distros can be used as the OS for the VM.

For your inquiry:

1. "Regarding this VM, do they run it on top of their Windows PCs?

Yes, they can run the VM on Top of Windows. Virtualization these days are
operating system agnostic. Also Sun's Virtualbox comes with an Open source
edition as well..

2. Can they boot it from their PCs before starting Windows instead?"

No. A host OS is still needed to run Virtualization software.

Hope this helps,

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Jacob Catayoc <jcatayoc@...> wrote:

>   Hi Xander,
>
> As much as possible I don't want to install Linux from scratch and burn a
> new CD since it takes too much time. But I guess if there's no existing
> LiveCDs with JDK6 around then I have no choice but to do it. :-(
>
> Also, I need the LiveCD to be able to read USB sticks so they can just
> create their code using the LiveCD and save their work on the USB.
>
> Regarding this VM, do they run it on top of their Windows PCs? Can they
> boot it from their PCs before starting Windows instead?
>
> I'll take a look at this. Thanks for your help!
>
> Regards,
> Jake
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Xander Solis <xrsolis@...> wrote:
>
>>   Hi Jake,
>>
>> Good day.
>>
>> Just an idea though, You might want to look at installing Linux in a VM
>> (you can use Virtualbox(http://www.virtualbox.org/) for this.) then
>> installing the jdk, then using the VM for presentation purposes. This might
>> give you the opportunity as well to give a copy of the VM Image to your
>> students for their own use which already have the Java code they have worked
>> on in their class.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Jacob Catayoc <jcatayoc@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>   Hello all,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for an existing distribution of a Live CD containing Linux,
>>> JDK6 and any Java IDE. Does anyone know where this can be found?
>>>
>>> I've been searching for the Internet, and found some links, but some of
>>> them were no longer working (ETIX), some are not using JDK6 (SNAPPIX, which
>>> uses a non-Sun JDK, DevelopGo which uses JDK 1.4.2). I've even found links
>>> where I can customize a BartPE CD containing Java, but Windows licensing
>>> restrictions will prevent me from doing so.
>>>
>>> I'm going to teach Java to professionals who have no prior programming
>>> background. Problem is I don't want to mess up with the classroom computers
>>> being filled with viruses that eats up my time in the class just to fix, and
>>> I also want to cut the time it eats for installing the software.
>>>
>>> While I'm not requiring JDK6 (I think DevelopGo would suit me, but I've
>>> yet to try it as I'm still downloading it now), but I would prefer if I can
>>> already introduce new constructs available with the latest version.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jake Catayoc
>>>
>>> --
>>> XSYS - Your Absolute ICT Solutions Provider
>>> Visit us at http://www.xsys-inc.com and let us know how we can help you.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Xander Solis
>> xrsolis.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> XSYS - Your Absolute ICT Solutions Provider
> Visit us at http://www.xsys-inc.com and let us know how we can help you.
>  
>



--
--
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xrsolis.blogspot.com

Re: Linux+JDK6+Java IDE LiveCD

by Eliseo B. Herrera Jr. :: Rate this Message:

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Yup, re the LiveCDs, can't think of any except Knoppix 5.3 (not sure
'bout the true Java IDE though, probably JDEE, ViM, Joe, etc.).

Your option of configuring Linux then burning one is probably the
best, but maybe you can also store the bootable ISO image then use P2P
bit torrent like Azureus to distribute copies.

Great also probably if the lab computers all have BIOS that support OS
booting from a USB device and all of the students have >=1GB capacity
USB memory sticks.

2 sides of the coin...;-)

-Uneng H.  
 
--- In pinoyjug@..., "Xander Solis" <xrsolis@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jake,
>
> As far as I know, most LiveCD's now have automount (tried Fedora9,
> BackTrack3), so it should not be an issue. I agree with sonnyG that
small
> distros can be used as the OS for the VM.
>
> For your inquiry:
>
> 1. "Regarding this VM, do they run it on top of their Windows PCs?
>
> Yes, they can run the VM on Top of Windows. Virtualization these
days are
> operating system agnostic. Also Sun's Virtualbox comes with an Open
source

> edition as well..
>
> 2. Can they boot it from their PCs before starting Windows instead?"
>
> No. A host OS is still needed to run Virtualization software.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Jacob Catayoc <jcatayoc@...> wrote:
>
> >   Hi Xander,
> >
> > As much as possible I don't want to install Linux from scratch and
burn a
> > new CD since it takes too much time. But I guess if there's no
existing
> > LiveCDs with JDK6 around then I have no choice but to do it. :-(
> >
> > Also, I need the LiveCD to be able to read USB sticks so they can just
> > create their code using the LiveCD and save their work on the USB.
> >
> > Regarding this VM, do they run it on top of their Windows PCs? Can
they

> > boot it from their PCs before starting Windows instead?
> >
> > I'll take a look at this. Thanks for your help!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jake
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Xander Solis <xrsolis@...> wrote:
> >
> >>   Hi Jake,
> >>
> >> Good day.
> >>
> >> Just an idea though, You might want to look at installing Linux
in a VM
> >> (you can use Virtualbox(http://www.virtualbox.org/) for this.) then
> >> installing the jdk, then using the VM for presentation purposes.
This might
> >> give you the opportunity as well to give a copy of the VM Image
to your
> >> students for their own use which already have the Java code they
have worked

> >> on in their class.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Jacob Catayoc <jcatayoc@...>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>   Hello all,
> >>>
> >>> I'm looking for an existing distribution of a Live CD containing
Linux,
> >>> JDK6 and any Java IDE. Does anyone know where this can be found?
> >>>
> >>> I've been searching for the Internet, and found some links, but
some of
> >>> them were no longer working (ETIX), some are not using JDK6
(SNAPPIX, which
> >>> uses a non-Sun JDK, DevelopGo which uses JDK 1.4.2). I've even
found links
> >>> where I can customize a BartPE CD containing Java, but Windows
licensing
> >>> restrictions will prevent me from doing so.
> >>>
> >>> I'm going to teach Java to professionals who have no prior
programming
> >>> background. Problem is I don't want to mess up with the
classroom computers
> >>> being filled with viruses that eats up my time in the class just
to fix, and
> >>> I also want to cut the time it eats for installing the software.
> >>>
> >>> While I'm not requiring JDK6 (I think DevelopGo would suit me,
but I've
> >>> yet to try it as I'm still downloading it now), but I would
prefer if I can
> >>> already introduce new constructs available with the latest version.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Jake Catayoc
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> XSYS - Your Absolute ICT Solutions Provider
> >>> Visit us at http://www.xsys-inc.com and let us know how we can
help you.

> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> --
> >> Xander Solis
> >> xrsolis.blogspot.com
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > XSYS - Your Absolute ICT Solutions Provider
> > Visit us at http://www.xsys-inc.com and let us know how we can
help you.

> >  
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Xander Solis
> xrsolis.blogspot.com
>



Re: Re: Linux+JDK6+Java IDE LiveCD

by Jacob Catayoc :: Rate this Message:

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Thank to everyone who replied to my e-mail. As for what happened to my live
Java CD:

1. I tried VirtualBox--pretty impressive for me (it can be my MS VirtualPC
replacement), but I don't think this will be suitable for my purpose. Since
I can just install Java/Eclipse on Windows, it didn't make sense for me to
virtualize Java-on-Linux on top of Windows (saves CPU and memory, plus I'm
not teaching them Linux anyway).

2. I've downloaded the DevelopGo Live CD (
http://www.ibiblio.org/onebase/onebaselinux.com/About/features/developgo.php)
and initially used it for my students. It was working for me, except that it
only contains Java 1.4.2. Also, the kernel is a bit old so the LAN cards
couldn't be detected. There is a way to remaster the Live CD but the package
management system is proprietary, and since the package repositories aren't
updated, there was no way for me to automatically update to the latest Java
and kernels. Compiling from source and/or manual installing will take too
much of my time.

3. Finally, I've decided I really have to rebuild a Live CD myself. Since I
already use Kubuntu, I just downloaded a tool (Ubuntu Customization Kit -
http://sourceforge.net/projects/uck/) that allows me to customize my Kubuntu
Live CD, and be able to add Java6 and Eclipse on it (which are in Ubuntu's
Multiverse repository, so no manual installs). I'm still in the process of
creating my Live CD out of Kubuntu, so wish me luck on this one. :-) When
I'm successful, I'll share it to those who need it.

Regards,
Jake

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Eliseo B. Herrera Jr. <
junel.herrera@...> wrote:

>   Yup, re the LiveCDs, can't think of any except Knoppix 5.3 (not sure
> 'bout the true Java IDE though, probably JDEE, ViM, Joe, etc.).
>
> Your option of configuring Linux then burning one is probably the
> best, but maybe you can also store the bootable ISO image then use P2P
> bit torrent like Azureus to distribute copies.
>
> Great also probably if the lab computers all have BIOS that support OS
> booting from a USB device and all of the students have >=1GB capacity
> USB memory sticks.
>
> 2 sides of the coin...;-)
>
> -Uneng H.
>
> --- In pinoyjug@... <pinoyjug%40yahoogroups.com>, "Xander
> Solis" <xrsolis@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jake,
> >
> > As far as I know, most LiveCD's now have automount (tried Fedora9,
> > BackTrack3), so it should not be an issue. I agree with sonnyG that
> small
> > distros can be used as the OS for the VM.
> >
> > For your inquiry:
> >
> > 1. "Regarding this VM, do they run it on top of their Windows PCs?
> >
> > Yes, they can run the VM on Top of Windows. Virtualization these
> days are
> > operating system agnostic. Also Sun's Virtualbox comes with an Open
> source
> > edition as well..
> >
> > 2. Can they boot it from their PCs before starting Windows instead?"
> >
> > No. A host OS is still needed to run Virtualization software.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Jacob Catayoc <jcatayoc@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Xander,
> > >
> > > As much as possible I don't want to install Linux from scratch and
> burn a
> > > new CD since it takes too much time. But I guess if there's no
> existing
> > > LiveCDs with JDK6 around then I have no choice but to do it. :-(
> > >
> > > Also, I need the LiveCD to be able to read USB sticks so they can just
> > > create their code using the LiveCD and save their work on the USB.
> > >
> > > Regarding this VM, do they run it on top of their Windows PCs? Can
> they
> > > boot it from their PCs before starting Windows instead?
> > >
> > > I'll take a look at this. Thanks for your help!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jake
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Xander Solis <xrsolis@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Jake,
> > >>
> > >> Good day.
> > >>
> > >> Just an idea though, You might want to look at installing Linux
> in a VM
> > >> (you can use Virtualbox(http://www.virtualbox.org/) for this.) then
> > >> installing the jdk, then using the VM for presentation purposes.
> This might
> > >> give you the opportunity as well to give a copy of the VM Image
> to your
> > >> students for their own use which already have the Java code they
> have worked
> > >> on in their class.
> > >>
> > >> Hope this helps,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Jacob Catayoc <jcatayoc@...>
>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hello all,
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm looking for an existing distribution of a Live CD containing
> Linux,
> > >>> JDK6 and any Java IDE. Does anyone know where this can be found?
> > >>>
> > >>> I've been searching for the Internet, and found some links, but
> some of
> > >>> them were no longer working (ETIX), some are not using JDK6
> (SNAPPIX, which
> > >>> uses a non-Sun JDK, DevelopGo which uses JDK 1.4.2). I've even
> found links
> > >>> where I can customize a BartPE CD containing Java, but Windows
> licensing
> > >>> restrictions will prevent me from doing so.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm going to teach Java to professionals who have no prior
> programming
> > >>> background. Problem is I don't want to mess up with the
> classroom computers
> > >>> being filled with viruses that eats up my time in the class just
> to fix, and
> > >>> I also want to cut the time it eats for installing the software.
> > >>>
> > >>> While I'm not requiring JDK6 (I think DevelopGo would suit me,
> but I've
> > >>> yet to try it as I'm still downloading it now), but I would
> prefer if I can
> > >>> already introduce new constructs available with the latest version.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Jake Catayoc
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> XSYS - Your Absolute ICT Solutions Provider
> > >>> Visit us at http://www.xsys-inc.com and let us know how we can
> help you.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> --
> > >> Xander Solis
> > >> xrsolis.blogspot.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > XSYS - Your Absolute ICT Solutions Provider
> > > Visit us at http://www.xsys-inc.com and let us know how we can
> help you.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --
> > Xander Solis
> > xrsolis.blogspot.com
> >
>
>  
>



--
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Re: Linux+JDK6+Java IDE LiveCD

by Eliseo B. Herrera Jr. :: Rate this Message:

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Yup, just to add, any Linux LiveCD (including Gnome-based OpenSolaris
<http://opensolaris.org/index.html>   and Bayanihan
<http://www.bayanihan.gov.ph/>  ) can be remastered for this "Duke"
LiveCD+USB memory stick combo. You can always manually install the
latest JDK and your IDE choice and upgrade them if they are installed in
the USB RAM sticks, if they are not yet available in the package
repositories. KDE-based Knoppix 5.x.x would probably be the easiest to
remaster and reconfigure; them Knoppix <http://www.knoppix.net/>  peeps
being heavy-hitters/veterans in the Penguin LiveCD creation
specialization/field. Any Ubuntu flavor would be good as well, and since
Kubuntu <http://www.kubuntu.org/>   is already installed installed in
your system, it would be excellent given that the lab PCs can handle the
fancy KDE desktop and its applications that you are planning to include
in your LiveCD creation.

Perhaps another delicious combo would be the floppy diskette(locked)+USB
PendriveLinux <http://www.pendrivelinux.com/>  , but maybe this is
asking too much already since probably most of the students prefer to
use their USB Flash RAM as mere data storage devices only.

OT:Nakita 'nyo ba 'yung barong, salakot, itak at kalabaw ni "Duke"? [;)]

thanks and regards,
-Uneng H.

--- In pinoyjug@..., "Jacob Catayoc" <jcatayoc@...> wrote:
>
> Thank to everyone who replied to my e-mail. As for what happened to my
live
> Java CD:
>
> 1. I tried VirtualBox--pretty impressive for me (it can be my MS
VirtualPC
> replacement), but I don't think this will be suitable for my purpose.
Since
> I can just install Java/Eclipse on Windows, it didn't make sense for
me to
> virtualize Java-on-Linux on top of Windows (saves CPU and memory, plus
I'm
> not teaching them Linux anyway).
>
> 2. I've downloaded the DevelopGo Live CD (
>
http://www.ibiblio.org/onebase/onebaselinux.com/About/features/developgo\
.php)
> and initially used it for my students. It was working for me, except
that it
> only contains Java 1.4.2. Also, the kernel is a bit old so the LAN
cards
> couldn't be detected. There is a way to remaster the Live CD but the
package
> management system is proprietary, and since the package repositories
aren't
> updated, there was no way for me to automatically update to the latest
Java
> and kernels. Compiling from source and/or manual installing will take
too
> much of my time.
>
> 3. Finally, I've decided I really have to rebuild a Live CD myself.
Since I
> already use Kubuntu, I just downloaded a tool (Ubuntu Customization
Kit -
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/uck/) that allows me to customize my
Kubuntu
> Live CD, and be able to add Java6 and Eclipse on it (which are in
Ubuntu's
> Multiverse repository, so no manual installs). I'm still in the
process of
> creating my Live CD out of Kubuntu, so wish me luck on this one. :-)
When
> I'm successful, I'll share it to those who need it.
>
> Regards,
> Jake
>
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Eliseo B. Herrera Jr. <
> junel.herrera@... wrote:
>
> >   Yup, re the LiveCDs, can't think of any except Knoppix 5.3 (not
sure
> > 'bout the true Java IDE though, probably JDEE, ViM, Joe, etc.).
> >
> > Your option of configuring Linux then burning one is probably the
> > best, but maybe you can also store the bootable ISO image then use
P2P
> > bit torrent like Azureus to distribute copies.
> >
> > Great also probably if the lab computers all have BIOS that support
OS
> > booting from a USB device and all of the students have >=1GB
capacity
> > USB memory sticks.
> >
> > 2 sides of the coin...;-)
> >
> > -Uneng H.
> >
> > --- In pinoyjug@... <pinoyjug%40yahoogroups.com>,
"Xander
> > Solis" xrsolis@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jake,
> > >
> > > As far as I know, most LiveCD's now have automount (tried Fedora9,
> > > BackTrack3), so it should not be an issue. I agree with sonnyG
that

> > small
> > > distros can be used as the OS for the VM.
> > >
> > > For your inquiry:
> > >
> > > 1. "Regarding this VM, do they run it on top of their Windows PCs?
> > >
> > > Yes, they can run the VM on Top of Windows. Virtualization these
> > days are
> > > operating system agnostic. Also Sun's Virtualbox comes with an
Open
> > source
> > > edition as well..
> > >
> > > 2. Can they boot it from their PCs before starting Windows
instead?"

> > >
> > > No. A host OS is still needed to run Virtualization software.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Jacob Catayoc jcatayoc@ wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Xander,
> > > >
> > > > As much as possible I don't want to install Linux from scratch
and
> > burn a
> > > > new CD since it takes too much time. But I guess if there's no
> > existing
> > > > LiveCDs with JDK6 around then I have no choice but to do it. :-(
> > > >
> > > > Also, I need the LiveCD to be able to read USB sticks so they
can just
> > > > create their code using the LiveCD and save their work on the
USB.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding this VM, do they run it on top of their Windows PCs?
Can

> > they
> > > > boot it from their PCs before starting Windows instead?
> > > >
> > > > I'll take a look at this. Thanks for your help!
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Jake
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Xander Solis xrsolis@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Jake,
> > > >>
> > > >> Good day.
> > > >>
> > > >> Just an idea though, You might want to look at installing Linux
> > in a VM
> > > >> (you can use Virtualbox(http://www.virtualbox.org/) for this.)
then
> > > >> installing the jdk, then using the VM for presentation
purposes.
> > This might
> > > >> give you the opportunity as well to give a copy of the VM Image
> > to your
> > > >> students for their own use which already have the Java code
they

> > have worked
> > > >> on in their class.
> > > >>
> > > >> Hope this helps,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Jacob Catayoc jcatayoc@
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hello all,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm looking for an existing distribution of a Live CD
containing
> > Linux,
> > > >>> JDK6 and any Java IDE. Does anyone know where this can be
found?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I've been searching for the Internet, and found some links,
but

> > some of
> > > >>> them were no longer working (ETIX), some are not using JDK6
> > (SNAPPIX, which
> > > >>> uses a non-Sun JDK, DevelopGo which uses JDK 1.4.2). I've even
> > found links
> > > >>> where I can customize a BartPE CD containing Java, but Windows
> > licensing
> > > >>> restrictions will prevent me from doing so.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm going to teach Java to professionals who have no prior
> > programming
> > > >>> background. Problem is I don't want to mess up with the
> > classroom computers
> > > >>> being filled with viruses that eats up my time in the class
just
> > to fix, and
> > > >>> I also want to cut the time it eats for installing the
software.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> While I'm not requiring JDK6 (I think DevelopGo would suit me,
> > but I've
> > > >>> yet to try it as I'm still downloading it now), but I would
> > prefer if I can
> > > >>> already introduce new constructs available with the latest
version.

> > > >>>
> > > >>> Regards,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jake Catayoc
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> XSYS - Your Absolute ICT Solutions Provider
> > > >>> Visit us at http://www.xsys-inc.com and let us know how we can
> > help you.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> --
> > > >> Xander Solis
> > > >> xrsolis.blogspot.com
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > XSYS - Your Absolute ICT Solutions Provider
> > > > Visit us at http://www.xsys-inc.com and let us know how we can
> > help you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Xander Solis
> > > xrsolis.blogspot.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> XSYS - Your Absolute ICT Solutions Provider
> Visit us at http://www.xsys-inc.com and let us know how we can help
you.
>


Re: Linux+JDK6+Java IDE LiveCD

by Paolo Enrico Melendres :: Rate this Message:

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not sure if this is already too late:
Installing a Ubuntu Hardy Heron Java Development Environment on a USB
flash drive
link:
http://weblogs.java.net/blog/inder/archive/2008/07/installing_a_ub_1.html

--- In pinoyjug@..., "Jacob Catayoc" <jcatayoc@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm looking for an existing distribution of a Live CD containing
Linux, JDK6
> and any Java IDE. Does anyone know where this can be found?