Learning now coding in Perl :-)

[Michelle Konzack-2]

Hi Girls,

I am coding in ASM, C, PHP, COBOL, PASCAL, CP/M, FORTRAN and SH
and now I am ongoing to learn Perl...  :-)

Since I am currently not financial-fit I am looking for a FREE
(of charge) tutorial or documentation for Perl-Programming.

I like to have it in HTML for reading on my Laptop and in PDF to
print it out.

Any recommendations?

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
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[Nori Heikkinen-2]

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Michelle Konzack
<linux4michelle@...> wrote:

> Hi Girls,
>
> I am coding in ASM, C, PHP, COBOL, PASCAL, CP/M, FORTRAN and SH
> and now I am ongoing to learn Perl...  :-)
>
> Since I am currently not financial-fit I am looking for a FREE
> (of charge) tutorial or documentation for Perl-Programming.
>
> I like to have it in HTML for reading on my Laptop and in PDF to
> print it out.
>
> Any recommendations?

I'll see your Perl and raise you Python:
http://diveintopython.org/toc/index.html :)

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[Elizabeth Bevilacqua]

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Michelle Konzack
<linux4michelle@...> wrote:
> Since I am currently not financial-fit I am looking for a FREE
> (of charge) tutorial or documentation for Perl-Programming.
>
> I like to have it in HTML for reading on my Laptop and in PDF to
> print it out.
>
> Any recommendations?

I used this one when I was starting out:

http://www.steve.gb.com/perl/tutorial.html

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[Michelle Konzack-2]

Hi Nori,

Am 2008-05-22 13:23:54, schrieb Nori Heikkinen:
> I'll see your Perl and raise you Python:
> http://diveintopython.org/toc/index.html :)

I know the Link already...

Unfortunately I have on the embedded system only Perl and no  place/need
for Python.

However, I now already a little bit about Python and  sometimes  I  code
simpel stuff...  If I have more time I will learn it too.  :-)

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[Enrico Zini]

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:04:39PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:

> (of charge) tutorial or documentation for Perl-Programming.
> I like to have it in HTML for reading on my Laptop and in PDF to
> print it out.
> Any recommendations?

I just used man perl: it is an index to various other manpages with
guides and plenty of very useful information and tutorials.

For example, man perlintro is a beginner's introduction, then in man
perl there's a whole index of tutorials on various aspects of the
languate.

It's apt-get install perl-doc to get it.


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[Steve Kemp]

On Sat May 24, 2008 at 09:50:18 +0100, Enrico Zini wrote:

> For example, man perlintro is a beginner's introduction, then in man
> perl there's a whole index of tutorials on various aspects of the
> languate.

  The best site for additional help is the venerable Perl
 Monks:

        http://perlmonks.org/

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[Mike Bird-2]

On Wed May 21 2008 14:04:39 Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Since I am currently not financial-fit I am looking for a FREE
> (of charge) tutorial or documentation for Perl-Programming.
>
> I like to have it in HTML for reading on my Laptop and in PDF to
> print it out.

Since there haven't been many responses permit me to chime
in with a few thoughts:

PERL has not changed much in recent years, as we're waiting
for PERL 6.  Since PERL hasn't changed much, PERL books from
five years ago are still useful.  You can often find PERL
books in used bookstores at very reasonable prices - probably
less than the cost of the ink to print a PDF.

Library?

You can learn PERL from the man pages.  Do "man perl" and
scroll down to see the huge number of useful man pages
provided by PERL, including several tutorials.  They're
useful if you can't find a book but frankly I found the
books *much* easier to follow.

--Mike Bird


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[Michelle Konzack-2]

Hello Enrico,

Am 2008-05-24 09:50:18, schrieb Enrico Zini:
> I just used man perl: it is an index to various other manpages with
> guides and plenty of very useful information and tutorials.
>
> For example, man perlintro is a beginner's introduction, then in man
> perl there's a whole index of tutorials on various aspects of the
> languate.
>
> It's apt-get install perl-doc to get it.

Grmpf...  I am using "man" as a command refference but was not aware  of
such Perl-DINO-Documentation....  And yes, even most peoples do not like
manpages, but some programs or projects are very well documented...

bash
fvwm
procmail
perl :-)

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[Michelle Konzack-2]

Hi Mike,

Am 2008-05-24 10:29:50, schrieb Mike Bird:
> You can learn PERL from the man pages.  Do "man perl" and
> scroll down to see the huge number of useful man pages
> provided by PERL, including several tutorials.  They're
> useful if you can't find a book but frankly I found the
> books *much* easier to follow.

Enrico had already pointed me to the VERY HUGE man docu...

I was not aware of this sicne I used "perldoc" only for
some modules I have already used...

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[Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso-2]

On 24/05/2008, Michelle Konzack <linux4michelle@...> wrote:
> Grmpf...  I am using "man" as a command refference but was not aware  of
>  such Perl-DINO-Documentation....  And yes, even most peoples do not like
>  manpages, but some programs or projects are very well documented...

I know that Perl's manpages are awesome, but is there a convenient way
to browse them? They all point to each other, and the only way I know
of going from one page to another is to remember the name of the
manpage I'm looking for, quit less, and then from bash type "man
perl_some_other_page".

Aren't they hypertexted somewhere?

- Jordi G. H.


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[Michelle Konzack-2]

Am 2008-05-25 10:03:08, schrieb Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso:
> I know that Perl's manpages are awesome, but is there a convenient way
> to browse them? They all point to each other, and the only way I know
> of going from one page to another is to remember the name of the
> manpage I'm looking for, quit less, and then from bash type "man
> perl_some_other_page".
>
> Aren't they hypertexted somewhere?
------------------------ END OF REPLIED MESSAGE ------------------------

AFAIK not, but you can use man2html to convert it.

Or you use under the X-Window-System "xman"...

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[Carmen Marcela Alegria C.]

 
 http://www.unix.com.ua/orelly/perl3/index.htm


--- Michelle Konzack <linux4michelle@...>
escribió:

> Hi Girls,
>
> I am coding in ASM, C, PHP, COBOL, PASCAL, CP/M,
> FORTRAN and SH
> and now I am ongoing to learn Perl...  :-)
>
> Since I am currently not financial-fit I am looking
> for a FREE
> (of charge) tutorial or documentation for
> Perl-Programming.
>
> I like to have it in HTML for reading on my Laptop
> and in PDF to
> print it out.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
>     Michelle Konzack
>     Systemadministrator
>     24V Electronic Engineer
>     Tamay Dogan Network
>     Debian GNU/Linux Consultant
>
>
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[Lesley Binks]

2008/5/27 Carmen Marcela Alegria C. <alegria071@...>:

>
>  http://www.unix.com.ua/orelly/perl3/index.htm
>
>
> --- Michelle Konzack <linux4michelle@...>
> escribió:
>
>> Hi Girls,
>>
>> I am coding in ASM, C, PHP, COBOL, PASCAL, CP/M,
>> FORTRAN and SH
>> and now I am ongoing to learn Perl...  :-)
>>
>> Since I am currently not financial-fit I am looking
>> for a FREE
>> (of charge) tutorial or documentation for
>> Perl-Programming.

http://www.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/perldoc/

I didn't catch the earlier parts of this thread in my inbox but I
noticed in the archives everyone has been talking about man perl
and that you have been using perldoc for modules.
'perldoc perl' will get you pretty much the same thing as 'man perl'
seems to - always used the former myself.

Always use
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
as the first line of your scripts and make them executable
or
#!/usr/bin/perl -wT
when writing perl scripts for cgi and stick to the rules for untainting data.

Get to know CPAN and the cpan although be very aware you can break a
Debian perl installation by overriding the Debian installation of perl
with CPAN modules.
If you really need the latest in perl you'd have to run testing or
unstable I guess.

HTH

L.


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[Steve Kemp]

On Tue May 27, 2008 at 00:01:45 -0500, Carmen Marcela Alegria C. wrote:

>  http://www.unix.com.ua/orelly/perl3/index.htm

  Please do not link to illegally posted, copyright infringing
 works.

  That's worse than Michelle's ridiculously long signature, and
 top-posting put together ;)


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[Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso-2]

On 27/05/2008, Steve Kemp <skx@...> wrote:
>   Please do not link to illegally posted, copyright infringing
>   works.
>
>   That's worse than Michelle's ridiculously long signature, and
>   top-posting put together ;)

I guess that depends whom you ask. We Mexicans don't seem to have much
of a notion of copyright, neither do Slavic people.

Ah, well. That's another debate. At any rate, I'm pretty sure that
site rejects connections with IPs from the US, and they're the ones
that seem to be the most litigious about this sort of thing, so I
don't think O'Reilly will even see it being available.

- Jordi G. H.


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[Javier Candeira]

What is the nearest Perl equivalent to _Dive into Python_?

I mean a smart, terse book on how to code in Perl for people with some
coding experience (no "variables are different from constants"), but
who still need some overarching narrative structure that man pages
will always be too fragmentary or exhaustive to have.

For those who don't know it, Dive into Python can be described into an
extended tutorial: it starts with a running program that is actually
useful, and teaches Python programming by explaining how the program
works. Every two chapters a new, more complex program is introduced,
and so on.

Is there a Perl textbook that follows this pattern?

Javier


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[Javier Candeira]

There is nothing wrong with top-posting, when done right.

Steve Kemp wrote:
> On Tue May 27, 2008 at 00:01:45 -0500, Carmen Marcela Alegria C. wrote:
>
>>  http://www.unix.com.ua/orelly/perl3/index.htm
>
>   Please do not link to illegally posted, copyright infringing
>  works.
>
>   That's worse than Michelle's ridiculously long signature, and
>  top-posting put together ;)

The above was not one of those "done right" cases of top-posting, however.

Javier


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[Michelle Konzack-2]

Am 2008-05-27 11:44:58, schrieb Steve Kemp:
> On Tue May 27, 2008 at 00:01:45 -0500, Carmen Marcela Alegria C. wrote:
>
> >  http://www.unix.com.ua/orelly/perl3/index.htm
>
>   Please do not link to illegally posted, copyright infringing
>  works.

The weird thing is, that "Perl in a Nutshel" was in the O'reilly
OpenBook <http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/> and now it is gone...

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[Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt-3]

"Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <jordigh@...> writes:

> On 24/05/2008, Michelle Konzack <linux4michelle@...> wrote:
>> Grmpf...  I am using "man" as a command refference but was not aware  of
>>  such Perl-DINO-Documentation....  And yes, even most peoples do not like
>>  manpages, but some programs or projects are very well documented...
> I know that Perl's manpages are awesome, but is there a convenient way
> to browse them? They all point to each other, and the only way I know
> of going from one page to another is to remember the name of the
> manpage I'm looking for, quit less, and then from bash type "man
> perl_some_other_page".
>
> Aren't they hypertexted somewhere?

They are, for example on http://perldoc.perl.org/perl.html. You can also
use podbrowser to get a nice and shiny Gtk interface to your locally
installed POD pages.

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