LANG=fr_FR /usr/bin/nedit and accentuated characters

[Nicolas BERCHER-2]

Hi,

I use NEdit all day long to draft ma thesis (LaTeX), I work under
lenny-sid/KDE (3.5.9) and I use bash under Konsole.

When I write in french, I use to call NEdit this way:
    LANG=fr_FR /usr/bin/nedit <file> &
since my locale is LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8.

It works good for a while (I mean I have all characters I need to draft
in french: à, é, è, ê, ï, etc.) and then it begins to be buggy (in the
same X session): accentuated characters typed as a two-keys-sequence are
no more accepted in NEdit.
For example ^+e should display an "ê" but I got an "e" instead, the same
for ¨+i, I got an "i".

When I restart my KDE session, all things become ok for a while an then
I fails again...
So what am I doing wrong ?
I also tried with luit:
    LANG=fr_FR luit /usr/bin/nedit <file>
but this does not repair anything (and sometimes introduces strange
behaviours in my bash sessions).

At least my question would be:
    Is there anything to reset or restart except my KDE session or my
whole computer to get things working good ?

Thanks a lot !
Nicolas.

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Info:
My NEdit is linked to lesstif2:
$ aptitude show nedit
    Paquet : nedit
    État: installé
    Automatiquement installé: non
    Version : 1:5.5-2
    Priorité : optionnel
    Section : editors
    Responsable : Alexandre Pineau <alexandre.pineau@...>
    Taille décompressée : 1782k
    Dépend: lesstif2, libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libsm6,
libx11-6, libxext6, libxp6, libxt6
    Suggère: csh
    Est en conflit: nedit-dmotif, nedit-smotif
    Remplace: nedit-dmotif, nedit-smotif
    Description : A powerful, customizable, Motif based text editor
     NEdit is a multi-purpose text editor for the X Window System, which
combines a standard, easy to use, graphical user interface with the
thorough functionality and stability
     required by users who edit text eight hours a day. It provides
intensive support for development in a wide variety of languages, text
processors, and other tools, but at the
     same time can be used productively by just about anyone who needs
to edit text.  Users of Macintosh and MS Windows based text editors will
find NEdit a familiar and     comfortable
     environment.


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[Nicolas BERCHER-2]

OK, I found something "interesting": when it begins to be buggy,
accentuated characters only fails when I open multiple files in tabs, on
every tabs except the tab of the first file I opened via the command line...
stupid rule...

I know that NEdit is considered stable only when linked to specific
versions of openmotif or lesstif... what a mess !
(http://www.nedit.org/pipermail/develop/2004-July/008974.html)

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$ nedit -V
NEdit 5.5
Sep 30, 2004

     Built on: Linux, 486, GNU C
     Built at: Aug 21 2008, 10:06:05
   With Motif: 2.1.0 [@(#)GNU/LessTif Version 2.1 Release 0.95.0]
Running Motif: 2.1 [unknown]
       Server: The X.Org Foundation 10402000
       Visual: 24-bit TrueColor (ID 0x21, Default)
       Locale: fr_FR


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[Nicolas BERCHER-2]

OK, I found an acceptable solution: download NEdit from here
http://www.nedit.org/ftp/v5_5/executables/ to get an well linked binary,
install it into /usr/local/ !
(Sorry Debian packagers, but I really need to work with NEdit. ;-) )
N.

> OK, I found something "interesting": when it begins to be buggy,
> accentuated characters only fails when I open multiple files in tabs,
> on every tabs except the tab of the first file I opened via the
> command line...
> stupid rule...
>
> I know that NEdit is considered stable only when linked to specific
> versions of openmotif or lesstif... what a mess !
> (http://www.nedit.org/pipermail/develop/2004-July/008974.html)
>
> -----
> $ nedit -V
> NEdit 5.5
> Sep 30, 2004
>
>     Built on: Linux, 486, GNU C
>     Built at: Aug 21 2008, 10:06:05
>   With Motif: 2.1.0 [@(#)GNU/LessTif Version 2.1 Release 0.95.0]
> Running Motif: 2.1 [unknown]
>       Server: The X.Org Foundation 10402000
>       Visual: 24-bit TrueColor (ID 0x21, Default)
>       Locale: fr_FR
>
>

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[Michelle Konzack-2]

Am 2008-08-29 13:52:33, schrieb Nicolas BERCHER:

> Hi,
>
> I use NEdit all day long to draft ma thesis (LaTeX), I work under
> lenny-sid/KDE (3.5.9) and I use bash under Konsole.
>
> When I write in french, I use to call NEdit this way:
>    LANG=fr_FR /usr/bin/nedit <file> &
> since my locale is LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8.
>
> It works good for a while (I mean I have all characters I need to draft
> in french: à, é, è, ê, ï, etc.) and then it begins to be buggy (in the
> same X session): accentuated characters typed as a two-keys-sequence are
> no more accepted in NEdit.
> For example ^+e should display an "ê" but I got an "e" instead, the same
> for ??+i, I got an "i".

Remove "nodeadkeys" from the Xorg.conf and you are done.

I am using german, french and turkisch and
have had never problems with NEdit...

> So what am I doing wrong ?
> I also tried with luit:
>    LANG=fr_FR luit /usr/bin/nedit <file>
          ^^^^^
Since you are using UTF-8 you have choosen the wrong locale since fr_FR
is the same as iso-8859-1 (without €).

You should use

    LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 /usr/bin/nedit <file>

and you are done

> but this does not repair anything (and sometimes introduces strange
> behaviours in my bash sessions).

    iso-8859-1    !=    iso-10646-1
         ff_FR    !=    fr_FR.UTF-8


Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
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[Nicolas BERCHER-2]

Remove "nodeadkeys" from the Xorg.conf and you are done.

I am using german, french and turkisch and
have had never problems with NEdit...
  

Hi,

 I don't have this option enabled in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

So what am I doing wrong ?
I also tried with luit:
   LANG=fr_FR luit /usr/bin/nedit <file>
    

          ^^^^^
Since you are using UTF-8 you have choosen the wrong locale since fr_FR
is the same as iso-8859-1 (without €).

You should use

    LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 /usr/bin/nedit <file>

and you are done
  

Sorry, but experiences show you're wrong:
My system locale is already fr_FR.UTF-8, so your code

	LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 /usr/bin/nedit <file>

has really really no effects !

Moreover, it works (a little) this ways:

	LANG=fr_FR /usr/bin/nedit <file>

but *only in he first nedit's tab*: try to open a new file in a second tab and type ¨+i : do you get an ï or ¨i ?
This is with nedit installed by apt-get/aptitude@stable/testing/sid.

Nowadays, I use the binary tar.gz package provided by nedit.org.
All character encoding stuff are ok.
Just a little problem: window redrawing operations are really slow (a few seconds for a tens of opened files in NEdit, really boring in a multi desktop env...)

Best regards.
Nicolas.