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Kodak C813 with gPhoto

by Peter F Bradshaw :: Rate this Message:

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Hi;

Has anybody been able to use gPhoto with the Kodak C813 "EasyShare"
camera? I have gPhoto as supplied with Debian Etch (gphoto2 2.2.0-3,
libgphoto2-2 2.2.1-16) but have had no luck. But I think the C813
interface is probably the same as other EasyShare cameras if only at a
basic level.

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Re: Kodak C813 with gPhoto

by Marcus Meissner-4 :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:13:30PM +0800, Peter F Bradshaw wrote:
> Hi;
>
> Has anybody been able to use gPhoto with the Kodak C813 "EasyShare"
> camera? I have gPhoto as supplied with Debian Etch (gphoto2 2.2.0-3,
> libgphoto2-2 2.2.1-16) but have had no luck. But I think the C813
> interface is probably the same as other EasyShare cameras if only at a
> basic level.

It should just work, even with this old version.

Does it work when you run gphoto2 as root?

Ciao, Marcus

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Re: Kodak C813 with gPhoto

by Peter F Bradshaw :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Marcus;

On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Marcus Meissner wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:13:30PM +0800, Peter F Bradshaw wrote:
> > Hi;
> >
> > Has anybody been able to use gPhoto with the Kodak C813 "EasyShare"
> > camera? I have gPhoto as supplied with Debian Etch (gphoto2 2.2.0-3,
> > libgphoto2-2 2.2.1-16) but have had no luck. But I think the C813
> > interface is probably the same as other EasyShare cameras if only at a
> > basic level.
>
> It should just work, even with this old version.
>
> Does it work when you run gphoto2 as root?

No, gphoto2 --auto-detect find nothing.

If I run gphoto2 --auto-detect --debug I can see it searching the USB
with various vendor, product tuples. I presume that I have to give a
vendor, product tuple for the C813 to gphoto?


>
> Ciao, Marcus
>

Cheers

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Re: Kodak C813 with gPhoto

by Marcus Meissner-4 :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 02:28:33PM +0800, Peter F Bradshaw wrote:

> Hi Marcus;
>
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Marcus Meissner wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:13:30PM +0800, Peter F Bradshaw wrote:
> > > Hi;
> > >
> > > Has anybody been able to use gPhoto with the Kodak C813 "EasyShare"
> > > camera? I have gPhoto as supplied with Debian Etch (gphoto2 2.2.0-3,
> > > libgphoto2-2 2.2.1-16) but have had no luck. But I think the C813
> > > interface is probably the same as other EasyShare cameras if only at a
> > > basic level.
> >
> > It should just work, even with this old version.
> >
> > Does it work when you run gphoto2 as root?
>
> No, gphoto2 --auto-detect find nothing.
>
> If I run gphoto2 --auto-detect --debug I can see it searching the USB
> with various vendor, product tuples. I presume that I have to give a
> vendor, product tuple for the C813 to gphoto?

It should find the "PTP" generic camera entry.

Can you post the lsusb -v output (just the blob for the camera) please?

Ciao, Marcus

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Re: Kodak C813 with gPhoto

by Peter F Bradshaw :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Marcus;

On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Marcus Meissner wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 02:28:33PM +0800, Peter F Bradshaw wrote:
> > Hi Marcus;
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:13:30PM +0800, Peter F Bradshaw wrote:
> > > > Hi;
> > > >
> > > > Has anybody been able to use gPhoto with the Kodak C813 "EasyShare"
> > > > camera? I have gPhoto as supplied with Debian Etch (gphoto2 2.2.0-3,
> > > > libgphoto2-2 2.2.1-16) but have had no luck. But I think the C813
> > > > interface is probably the same as other EasyShare cameras if only at a
> > > > basic level.
> > >
> > > It should just work, even with this old version.
> > >
> > > Does it work when you run gphoto2 as root?
> >
> > No, gphoto2 --auto-detect find nothing.
> >
> > If I run gphoto2 --auto-detect --debug I can see it searching the USB
> > with various vendor, product tuples. I presume that I have to give a
> > vendor, product tuple for the C813 to gphoto?
>
> It should find the "PTP" generic camera entry.
>
> Can you post the lsusb -v output (just the blob for the camera) please?
>

I cannot see the camera using lsusb (and, likewise, lsusb -v). Is it
necessary that it be seen by lsusb?

> Ciao, Marcus
>

Cheers

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Re: Kodak C813 with gPhoto

by Marcus Meissner :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 08:07:16PM +0800, Peter F Bradshaw wrote:

> Hi Marcus;
>
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Marcus Meissner wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 02:28:33PM +0800, Peter F Bradshaw wrote:
> > > Hi Marcus;
> > >
> > > On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:13:30PM +0800, Peter F Bradshaw wrote:
> > > > > Hi;
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anybody been able to use gPhoto with the Kodak C813 "EasyShare"
> > > > > camera? I have gPhoto as supplied with Debian Etch (gphoto2 2.2.0-3,
> > > > > libgphoto2-2 2.2.1-16) but have had no luck. But I think the C813
> > > > > interface is probably the same as other EasyShare cameras if only at a
> > > > > basic level.
> > > >
> > > > It should just work, even with this old version.
> > > >
> > > > Does it work when you run gphoto2 as root?
> > >
> > > No, gphoto2 --auto-detect find nothing.
> > >
> > > If I run gphoto2 --auto-detect --debug I can see it searching the USB
> > > with various vendor, product tuples. I presume that I have to give a
> > > vendor, product tuple for the C813 to gphoto?
> >
> > It should find the "PTP" generic camera entry.
> >
> > Can you post the lsusb -v output (just the blob for the camera) please?
> >
>
> I cannot see the camera using lsusb (and, likewise, lsusb -v). Is it
> necessary that it be seen by lsusb?

Yes, it is necessary.

Did you recompile your kernel? And is the cable between camera and machine
good?

Ciao, Marcus

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Re: Kodak C813 with gPhoto

by Peter F Bradshaw :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Marcus;

On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Marcus Meissner wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 08:07:16PM +0800, Peter F Bradshaw wrote:
> > Hi Marcus;
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 02:28:33PM +0800, Peter F Bradshaw wrote:
> > > > Hi Marcus;
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:13:30PM +0800, Peter F Bradshaw wrote:
> > > > > > Hi;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Has anybody been able to use gPhoto with the Kodak C813 "EasyShare"
> > > > > > camera? I have gPhoto as supplied with Debian Etch (gphoto2 2.2.0-3,
> > > > > > libgphoto2-2 2.2.1-16) but have had no luck. But I think the C813
> > > > > > interface is probably the same as other EasyShare cameras if only at a
> > > > > > basic level.
> > > > >
> > > > > It should just work, even with this old version.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does it work when you run gphoto2 as root?
> > > >
> > > > No, gphoto2 --auto-detect find nothing.
> > > >
> > > > If I run gphoto2 --auto-detect --debug I can see it searching the USB
> > > > with various vendor, product tuples. I presume that I have to give a
> > > > vendor, product tuple for the C813 to gphoto?
> > >
> > > It should find the "PTP" generic camera entry.
> > >
> > > Can you post the lsusb -v output (just the blob for the camera) please?
> > >
> >
> > I cannot see the camera using lsusb (and, likewise, lsusb -v). Is it
> > necessary that it be seen by lsusb?
>
> Yes, it is necessary.
>
> Did you recompile your kernel? And is the cable between camera and machine
> good?

I should have pointed out that I use the USB for other devices. For
instance I drive a USB scanner using Sane. So the USB system on the
whole works. Is there anything else I need to compile into the kernel?

One of my problems is that I have never used a camera, with either the
"EasyShare" software on Windows or gPhoto, in the past. So I'm unsure
of what to expect.

The camera's user manual directs me to connect the USB cable to the
camera and turn its power on. The problem is that the camera will not
power on with the cable connected. Further, if the camera is powered on
and I connect the cable to the camera the power seems to go off (the
camera's screen goes blank). However, the camera does not go through a
power off cycle - that is the lense does not retract, etc. The power
returns (screen lights up) when I remove the cable.

When I look at the trouble shooting guide with these symptoms (on the
Kodak Web site which, of course, references "EasyShare" software) it
directs me to check whether the version of the software is >= 5.1. This
implies to me that whether the camera powers on or not while connected
has something to do with the software being run on the host computer.
Does this sound right to you?

Unfortunately I have not means to check the cable independantly right
now.

>
> Ciao, Marcus
>

Cheers

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Re: Kodak C813 with gPhoto

by Peter F Bradshaw :: Rate this Message:

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Hi;

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, Peter F Bradshaw wrote:

> Hi Marcus;
>
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Marcus Meissner wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 08:07:16PM +0800, Peter F Bradshaw wrote:
> > > Hi Marcus;
> > >
> > > On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 02:28:33PM +0800, Peter F Bradshaw wrote:
> > > > > Hi Marcus;
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:13:30PM +0800, Peter F Bradshaw wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi;
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Has anybody been able to use gPhoto with the Kodak C813 "EasyShare"
> > > > > > > camera? I have gPhoto as supplied with Debian Etch (gphoto2 2.2.0-3,
> > > > > > > libgphoto2-2 2.2.1-16) but have had no luck. But I think the C813
> > > > > > > interface is probably the same as other EasyShare cameras if only at a
> > > > > > > basic level.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It should just work, even with this old version.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does it work when you run gphoto2 as root?
> > > > >
> > > > > No, gphoto2 --auto-detect find nothing.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I run gphoto2 --auto-detect --debug I can see it searching the USB
> > > > > with various vendor, product tuples. I presume that I have to give a
> > > > > vendor, product tuple for the C813 to gphoto?
> > > >
> > > > It should find the "PTP" generic camera entry.
> > > >
> > > > Can you post the lsusb -v output (just the blob for the camera) please?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I cannot see the camera using lsusb (and, likewise, lsusb -v). Is it
> > > necessary that it be seen by lsusb?
> >
> > Yes, it is necessary.
> >
> > Did you recompile your kernel? And is the cable between camera and machine
> > good?
>
> I should have pointed out that I use the USB for other devices. For
> instance I drive a USB scanner using Sane. So the USB system on the
> whole works. Is there anything else I need to compile into the kernel?
>
> One of my problems is that I have never used a camera, with either the
> "EasyShare" software on Windows or gPhoto, in the past. So I'm unsure
> of what to expect.
>
> The camera's user manual directs me to connect the USB cable to the
> camera and turn its power on. The problem is that the camera will not
> power on with the cable connected. Further, if the camera is powered on
> and I connect the cable to the camera the power seems to go off (the
> camera's screen goes blank). However, the camera does not go through a
> power off cycle - that is the lense does not retract, etc. The power
> returns (screen lights up) when I remove the cable.

I have tried the camera on a Windows system with EasyShare software
installed. The camera behaves on Windows in the same manner as described
above - i.e. there is no indication that the camera is on when it is
connected to the computer. However, EasyShare runs up about 3 seconds
after the power button is depressed.

I now have the camera working on Linux (Debian Etch) with the following:

Linux goldmund 2.6.18-6-486 #1 Fri Jun 6 21:47:01 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
gphoto2                                2.2.0-3
libgphoto2-2                           2.2.1-16
libgphoto2-port0                       2.2.1-16

In order to give non root users access it is necessary to add the users
to group "plugdev". This group is specified by the following in
/etc/udev/libgphoto2.rules:

PROGRAM="check_ptp_camera 06/01/01", MODE="0660", GROUP="plugdev"

The camera seems to power off after a few minutes of time out - again
no visible indication of this other than it disappears from lsusb.

Here are some data on the camera:

lsusb
Bus 001 Device 013: ID 040a:05c3 Kodak Co.

cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
T:  Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 13 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
D:  Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=16 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=040a ProdID=05c3 Rev= 1.00
S:  Manufacturer=Eastman Kodak Company
S:  Product=KODAK EasyShare C813 Zoom Digital Camera
S:  SerialNumber=C813 161112845
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=  0mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=06(still) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=0ms
E:  Ad=04(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=0ms
E:  Ad=85(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=  64 Ivl=16ms

>
> When I look at the trouble shooting guide with these symptoms (on the
> Kodak Web site which, of course, references "EasyShare" software) it
> directs me to check whether the version of the software is >= 5.1. This
> implies to me that whether the camera powers on or not while connected
> has something to do with the software being run on the host computer.
> Does this sound right to you?
>
> Unfortunately I have not means to check the cable independantly right
> now.
>
> >
> > Ciao, Marcus
> >
>
> Cheers
>
>

Cheers

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