Keeping "old" Nikon gear because its better than the most recent D3
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Re: Keeping "old" Nikon gear because its better than the most recent D3
by Ivan Virgili
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Hash: SHA1 On 22/07/08 08:03, Richards, Murray wrote: > Cameras are just like PC's (or macs). If you wait to afford the latest > and greatest, you can guarantee that by the time you can afford it, the > even newer model is just around the corner from the one you have been > saving up for over the past year. > > No need to throw away or upgrade from something that works for you. I totally agree.. Some people like "toys" and like having the latest ones, but they always end up using the same tools/functions on the new toys as on the old ones, while spending a lot of money for a little or none improvement to their "lives". Ciao, Ivan - -- Ivan Virgili http://www.ivanvirgili.com GNU/Linux user #292882 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkiGM44ACgkQDW0uhLUcuOuqjQCeIZrfy/9OuaIBAbFpw/n3/aUO 4joAnjGI9yILYl/wfvWL9lG9WERrFhLE =c1WH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Nikon mailing list Nikon@... http://nikonusers.com/mailman/listinfo/nikon_nikonusers.com |
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Re: Keeping "old" Nikon gear because its better than the most recent D3
by Marc Martineau
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Don't really agree...
The D300 incorpores a new CMOS sensor... it's 75% of the upgrade from a D200 to a D300... that's quite am improvement ! Same from D2X Xs to D3 ! ! ! If you don't use it because you consider this as a toy... then there's a problem ! ! ! :-))) In a change like this, we inadvertently ply with more than 75% of the changes... without really knowing sometimes... CHANGE IS GOOD ! :-))) Marc On 22-Jul-08, at 3:22 PM, Ivan Virgili wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 22/07/08 08:03, Richards, Murray wrote: >> Cameras are just like PC's (or macs). If you wait to afford the >> latest >> and greatest, you can guarantee that by the time you can afford it, >> the >> even newer model is just around the corner from the one you have been >> saving up for over the past year. >> >> No need to throw away or upgrade from something that works for you. > > I totally agree.. > Some people like "toys" and like having the latest ones, but they > always > end up using the same tools/functions on the new toys as on the old > ones, while spending a lot of money for a little or none improvement > to > their "lives". > > Ciao, > > Ivan > > - -- > Ivan Virgili > http://www.ivanvirgili.com > GNU/Linux user #292882 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkiGM44ACgkQDW0uhLUcuOuqjQCeIZrfy/9OuaIBAbFpw/n3/aUO > 4joAnjGI9yILYl/wfvWL9lG9WERrFhLE > =c1WH > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Nikon mailing list > Nikon@... > http://nikonusers.com/mailman/listinfo/nikon_nikonusers.com _______________________________________________ Nikon mailing list Nikon@... http://nikonusers.com/mailman/listinfo/nikon_nikonusers.com |
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Re: Keeping "old" Nikon gear because its better than the most recent D3
by Ivan Virgili
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Hash: SHA1 On 22/07/08 20:31, Marc Martineau wrote: > Don't really agree... > > The D300 incorpores a new CMOS sensor... it's 75% of the upgrade from > a D200 to a D300... that's quite am improvement ! Same from D2X Xs to > D3 ! ! ! > > If you don't use it because you consider this as a toy... then there's > a problem ! ! ! :-))) > > In a change like this, we inadvertently ply with more than 75% of the > changes... without really knowing sometimes... > > CHANGE IS GOOD ! :-))) > > Marc You got me wrong.. Change is good, but you only need to change if you need to, not because everyone else is doing it !!! For ex. I am still using film cameras, because I do not need digital cameras. I take 98% of my pictures in black and white, I do not need to supply my photos to someone immediately, etc. Why should I go digital? If I decided to go digital and buy a D700, why should I change it for a D800 in a year time? That was what I meant. Ciao, Ivan - -- Ivan Virgili http://www.ivanvirgili.com GNU/Linux user #292882 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkiGN/wACgkQDW0uhLUcuOu/0gCaAzAS0MPEW4wnIaS18JfTeDTa NucAoM+pmp+JzyN7p+MxSJpyluvc+MRz =AXmH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Nikon mailing list Nikon@... http://nikonusers.com/mailman/listinfo/nikon_nikonusers.com |
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Re: Keeping "old" Nikon gear because its better than the most recent D3
by Mel-13
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I agree with Ivan. If your work flow needs the latest and greatest, go for
it. I have been a digital shooter since the D1 but before that I had a large film camera inventory. I shot and owned everything from a Nikkormat FTN to the F5 with a lot in between. Even though it was not state of the art, I preferred an F4s to even the F5 and certainly over the F2 and F3 and all the N series. I shot for fun and pleasure and found the F4s was the perfect blend of MF and AF. I shoot with a D200 after shooting with my wife's throwaways (she shoots for a living while I argue points of law) and went through her used Fuji S2Pros, S3Pros and finally I bit the bullet and bought the D200. I edit a monthly magazine for our Bar Association and most of my shots will be reproduced in BW but my love is wildlife and the D200 works great as long as I don't try to go over ISO 400 and expose correctly. I guess if I was shooting for national magazines, I might need the lower light capability of the D300, D3, D700 or whatever but it is just money wasted trying to keep up with the Jones'. I am on several forums with like photographers who probably have never sold their work (I have) but they are like alcoholics when a new product comes out even though only they can really see the difference. Nothing wrong with buying the latest as soon as possible but much is vanity and has nothing to do with need. I see instances where the need for the new might be necessary but not as often as those who rationalize and justify the expenditures try to tell me. Mel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivan Virgili" <ivnmad@...> To: "Nikon Mailing List" <nikon@...> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [Nikon] Keeping "old" Nikon gear because its better than the most recent D3 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 22/07/08 20:31, Marc Martineau wrote: >> Don't really agree... >> >> The D300 incorpores a new CMOS sensor... it's 75% of the upgrade from >> a D200 to a D300... that's quite am improvement ! Same from D2X Xs to >> D3 ! ! ! >> >> If you don't use it because you consider this as a toy... then there's >> a problem ! ! ! :-))) >> >> In a change like this, we inadvertently ply with more than 75% of the >> changes... without really knowing sometimes... >> >> CHANGE IS GOOD ! :-))) >> >> Marc > > You got me wrong.. Change is good, but you only need to change if you > need to, not because everyone else is doing it !!! > > For ex. I am still using film cameras, because I do not need digital > cameras. I take 98% of my pictures in black and white, I do not need to > supply my photos to someone immediately, etc. > Why should I go digital? > If I decided to go digital and buy a D700, why should I change it for a > D800 in a year time? > > That was what I meant. > > Ciao, > > Ivan > > - -- > Ivan Virgili > http://www.ivanvirgili.com > GNU/Linux user #292882 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkiGN/wACgkQDW0uhLUcuOu/0gCaAzAS0MPEW4wnIaS18JfTeDTa > NucAoM+pmp+JzyN7p+MxSJpyluvc+MRz > =AXmH > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Nikon mailing list > Nikon@... > http://nikonusers.com/mailman/listinfo/nikon_nikonusers.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1567 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 > 4:05 PM > > > _______________________________________________ Nikon mailing list Nikon@... http://nikonusers.com/mailman/listinfo/nikon_nikonusers.com |
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Re: Keeping "old" Nikon gear because its better than the most recent D3
by Francis Corvin
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At 2008-07-22 20:41, Ivan Virgili wrote:
>You got me wrong.. Change is good, but you only need to change if you >need to, not because everyone else is doing it !!! Sometimes you don't know what you need. Stupid but illustrative example: I learnt to cook without a microwave oven. I never really had a need for one. But hey, my parents bought one, so I started using it. Now I would never go back to not having one. In spite of what people claim from time to time, Nikon does take account of the needs of photographers when they develop their next generation of cameras, otherwise they would not have been so successful. Whether those needs are discovered before or after buying the camera is not really the issue, or is it? Regards, Francis _______________________________________________ Nikon mailing list Nikon@... http://nikonusers.com/mailman/listinfo/nikon_nikonusers.com |
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Re: Keeping "old" Nikon gear because its better than the most recent D3
by Ivan Virgili
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On 22/07/08 22:58, Francis Corvin wrote:
> Sometimes you don't know what you need. Stupid but illustrative > example: I learnt to cook without a microwave oven. I never really > had a need for one. But hey, my parents bought one, so I started > using it. Now I would never go back to not having one. That is true, sometimes you do not know if you "need" something until you have it. At the same time if you still did not have a microwave oven, you would have still been able to keep cooking and live without it. Life would have not been as easy, but you would have survived. Moreover, you did not go out and bought one only because they were in the shops. If some people like having "the best and the latest", even if they do not "really" need it, and are ready to spend (or waste) a lot of money in the process, I am fine with it (it a "free" world). The point is that rationally, I think you should only upgrade if there is a valid reason for doing it and not just for the fun of it, especially if you do not have millions in the bank. Ciao, Ivan -- Ivan Virgili http://www.ivanvirgili.com GNU/Linux user #292882 _______________________________________________ Nikon mailing list Nikon@... http://nikonusers.com/mailman/listinfo/nikon_nikonusers.com |
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