Just another enfuse droplet

[Erik Krause]

Hello,

I finally had the idea how to automatically group images in bracketed
series from a panorama. It turned out to be quite easy, but it's
limited of course: The images of one pano must be together in a
folder, no other images should be there. The images must be named in
the order most cameras do: with ascending numbers. Each series must
consist of consecutive images. I suppose this is how most peole shoot
bracketed series anyway - shoot one series, pan on, shoot next series
and so on.

The droplet reads the folder and sorts images by name. Then reads the
EV (exposure value computed from exposure time, f-stop and ISO) from
the first image with the help of EXIFTool.

It then starts to enfuse images until it finds an image with the same
EV as the first one. This image is considered the first one of the
next series and so on until all images are processed. It doesn't
matter whether you do classical brackets (f.e. normal, under, over)
or a linear series (f.e. -2EV, -1EV, 0EV, +1EV, +2EV), only the first
image of each series must be exposed the same.

If you think this could be of any help, please download the droplets
from http://www.erik-krause.de/enfuse_droplets.zip and EXIFTool
windows executable from http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/ 
and unpack all files in the folder where enfuse.exe resides[1].
Rename exiftool(-k).exe to exiftool.exe and create shortcuts as
described in the readme.txt file from the droplets zip.

The batch files won't work directly, shortcuts are mandatory. Then
drop a folder that meets above conditions on the shortcut that points
to enfuse_auto_droplet.bat (best named "Enfuse Auto")

Please report any observations, especially whether it works on
Vista...

[1] If you don't have enfuse already or want the most recent version,
go to http://wiki.panotools.org/Enfuse and follow the link in the
"state of development" section.

best regards
--
Erik Krause
Offenburger Str. 33
79108 Freiburg

[wardnet2001-3]

 
> from http://www.erik-krause.de/enfuse_droplets.zip and EXIFTool
> windows executable from http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/ 
> and unpack all files in the folder where enfuse.exe resides[1].
> Rename exiftool(-k).exe to exiftool.exe and create shortcuts as
> described in the readme.txt file from the droplets zip.
>

>
Hi Eric

Thanks! A quick test on a folder of images worked worked perfectly.
I'll use this a lot, I'm sure.

Bill

[Roger D. Williams]

On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:30:05 +0900, Erik Krause <erik.krause@...> wrote:

> Please report any observations, especially whether it works on
> Vista...

Erik, do you ask this because you haven't tested it with Vista?

I have one computer in the office, the latest and most powerful
by far, but I am not too happy with Vista. I am wondering
whether to run Enfuse and your droplets on the newest Vista
computer or my older, less powerful computer running XP Pro.

Roger W.

--
Work: www.adex-japan.com
Play: www.usefilm.com/member/roger

[Milko K. Amorth]

Hi Erik,
Fantastic work. Thank you.
>
>
> The batch files won't work directly, shortcuts are mandatory. Then
> drop a folder that meets above conditions on the shortcut that points
> to enfuse_auto_ droplet.bat (best named "Enfuse Auto")
>
All i have missed is the "align_enfuse_auto.bat" for handheld bracketing.
>
>
> Please report any observations, especially whether it works on
> Vista...
>
Sorry, no Vista. Iam going to skip that one. Had enough fights with
xpsp2 already.

I did a modest compare between ptgui/ldr and enfuse auto workflow.
Everything was kept at auto everything.
No tweaks or editing. I like it much better then tonemapping to LDR
though the blended segments get blended again
in PTgui. I get better color contrasts when enfuse_align360 the pano
planes. The planes blend more evenly, I think.
http://360image.de/test/smallfoot_tripod.htm

Thanks again for your dedicated work. I appreciate it very much.

Cheers, Milko

[Briar]

I remember seeing a panorama that covered two (or more?) seasons from the
same spot, and wonder if anyone else remembers that, and more importantly
can suggest how to do the same?

 

I have been following a particular building project "from the inside" where
I started with the bare ground in the winter, I now have the latest one that
is inside a large metal frame that will become the central atrium of a
holiday home. So the landscape can still be seen behind.

 

I want to be able to go round the original pan, going (reasonably)
seamlessly onto the next within the same QTVR. Can anyone throw any ideas my
way?

As always, your help is greatly appreciated.

 

Briar Bentley,

Agender Northland.

316 Springfield Road.

R D 8 Whangarei

09-432-2092

0274-904-553

briar_bentley@...

 

 



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[michel thoby]

Hi Briar,

Le 7 févr. 08 à 05:11, Briar a écrit :

> I remember seeing a panorama that covered two (or more?) seasons  
> from the
> same spot, and wonder if anyone else remembers that, and more  
> importantly
> can suggest how to do the same?

This is probably what you're looking for:
http://panograph.free.fr/lauragais/4saisons.html

Make a 360° cylindrical for each season from the same spot and  
subsequently assemble "N" of them to make a N x 360° cylindrical  
panorama. Up to you to blend a transition between each (including  
last to first)
and render this as N x 360° cylindrical QTVR. Make it to wrap around  
to close the time loop.

Regards,

Michel

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Erik Krause]

On Wednesday, February 06, 2008 at 15:37, michel thoby wrote:

> This works on Vista here.
> Well, I have only given a simple try with the simplest droplet and  
> got the expected output enfused file;-)

Many thanks! My fears where mostly about the new auto droplet, which
uses some techniques I don't use in the other ones...

best regards
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de

[Erik Krause]

On Wednesday, February 06, 2008 at 12:27, Milko K. Amorth wrote:

> All i have missed is the "align_enfuse_auto.bat" for handheld bracketing.

Roll your own:

Duplicate enfuse_auto_droplet.bat to align_enfuse_auto.bat, open in
notepad and replace call enfuse_droplet.bat in line 66 by call
enfuse_align_droplet.bat

The reason I neglected the align feature a bit is that enfuse
currently has a bug that prevents the usage of other values for
--wContrast than 0 with output of align_image_stack. I'll complete
the droplets zoo with a focus stack enfuse droplet as soon as this is
fixed...

best regards
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de

[diallery]

--- In PanoToolsNG@..., michel thoby <thobymichel@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Briar,
>
> Le 7 févr. 08 à 05:11, Briar a écrit :
>
> > I remember seeing a panorama that covered two (or more?) seasons  
> > from the
> > same spot, and wonder if anyone else remembers that, and more  
> > importantly
> > can suggest how to do the same?
>
> This is probably what you're looking for:
> http://panograph.free.fr/lauragais/4saisons.html
>
> Make a 360° cylindrical for each season from the same spot and  
> subsequently assemble "N" of them to make a N x 360° cylindrical  
> panorama. Up to you to blend a transition between each (including  
> last to first)
> and render this as N x 360° cylindrical QTVR. Make it to wrap around  
> to close the time loop.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michel
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Briar

As Michel says I make N x 360°. I copy with photoshop 10% from the
left side and append it to the right, so each of the N-cylindricals
covers more or less 400°. Then load them all with ptgui, chose as lens
type "cylindrical", a field of view 400° divided by N (100° for 4
input panoramas), as panorama projection cylindrical with 360°, put
some manual control points in the overlaping areas and let ptgui do
the blending for you.

Two examples done with this technique:

http://www.diallery.com/panos/show_4seasons.html
http://geoimages.berkeley.edu/worldwidepanorama/wwp307/html/DaniFuchs.html

Regards
Daniel

[Milko K. Amorth]

Hi Erik,
>
>
> Duplicate enfuse_auto_ droplet.bat to align_enfuse_ auto.bat, open in
> notepad and replace call enfuse_droplet. bat in line 66 by call
> enfuse_align_ droplet.bat
>
Done. Works like a charm. Thank you.

> I'll complete
> the droplets zoo with a focus stack enfuse droplet as soon as this is
> fixed...
>
Superb.

Cheers, Milko

[Roger D. Williams]

Erik,

Does it matter if the numbers are consecutive? i.e., as long as
numbers are in ascending order is it OK to have gaps?

I know I could test this myself but I don't have access to my
computer at the moment.

Roger W.


On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:30:05 +0900, Erik Krause <erik.krause@...> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I finally had the idea how to automatically group images in bracketed
> series from a panorama. It turned out to be quite easy, but it's
> limited of course: The images of one pano must be together in a
> folder, no other images should be there. The images must be named in
> the order most cameras do: with ascending numbers. Each series must
> consist of consecutive images. I suppose this is how most peole shoot
> bracketed series anyway - shoot one series, pan on, shoot next series
> and so on.
>
> The droplet reads the folder and sorts images by name. Then reads the
> EV (exposure value computed from exposure time, f-stop and ISO) from
> the first image with the help of EXIFTool.
>
> It then starts to enfuse images until it finds an image with the same
> EV as the first one. This image is considered the first one of the
> next series and so on until all images are processed. It doesn't
> matter whether you do classical brackets (f.e. normal, under, over)
> or a linear series (f.e. -2EV, -1EV, 0EV, +1EV, +2EV), only the first
> image of each series must be exposed the same.
>
> If you think this could be of any help, please download the droplets
> from http://www.erik-krause.de/enfuse_droplets.zip and EXIFTool
> windows executable from http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/
> and unpack all files in the folder where enfuse.exe resides[1].
> Rename exiftool(-k).exe to exiftool.exe and create shortcuts as
> described in the readme.txt file from the droplets zip.
>
> The batch files won't work directly, shortcuts are mandatory. Then
> drop a folder that meets above conditions on the shortcut that points
> to enfuse_auto_droplet.bat (best named "Enfuse Auto")
>
> Please report any observations, especially whether it works on
> Vista...
>
> [1] If you don't have enfuse already or want the most recent version,
> go to http://wiki.panotools.org/Enfuse and follow the link in the
> "state of development" section.
>
> best regards
> --
> Erik Krause
> Offenburger Str. 33
> 79108 Freiburg
>
>
>

--
Work: www.adex-japan.com
Play: www.usefilm.com/member/roger

[Jim Watters]

diallery wrote:
> examples done with this technique:
>
> http://www.diallery.com/panos/show_4seasons.html
>
> Regards
> Daniel
Crashed Firefox 2.0.0.11. Win XP, QT 7.3.1 & QT 7.4.1
IE7 worked.

--
Jim Watters

Yahoo ID: j1vvy ymsgr:sendIM?j1vvy
jwatters @ photocreations . ca
http://photocreations.ca

[diallery]

--- In PanoToolsNG@..., Jim Watters <jwatters@...> wrote:

>
> diallery wrote:
> > examples done with this technique:
> >
> > http://www.diallery.com/panos/show_4seasons.html
> >
> > Regards
> > Daniel
> Crashed Firefox 2.0.0.11. Win XP, QT 7.3.1 & QT 7.4.1
> IE7 worked.
>
> --
> Jim Watters
>
> Yahoo ID: j1vvy ymsgr:sendIM?j1vvy
> jwatters @ photocreations . ca
> http://photocreations.ca
>

Firefox 2.0.0.11, Win XP, QT 7.0.3 worked for me

Now the QT-File is changed (2.4 MB in place of 3.8 MB)
Jim, can you check if it works now for you?

Thanks
Daniel

[Erik Krause]

On Friday, February 08, 2008 at 9:43, Roger D. Williams wrote:

> Does it matter if the numbers are consecutive? i.e., as long as
> numbers are in ascending order is it OK to have gaps?

It is ok to have gaps. he droplet does a simple sort by filename,
like if you clicked the respective column in explorer (it uses the
sort functionality of the DIR command).

Please let me know if you think it's better to use f.e. the creation
date/time...

best regards



Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de

[Jim Watters]

diallery wrote:

> --- In PanoToolsNG@..., Jim Watters <jwatters@...> wrote:
>  
>> diallery wrote:
>>    
>>> examples done with this technique:
>>>
>>> http://www.diallery.com/panos/show_4seasons.html
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Daniel
>>>      
>> Crashed Firefox 2.0.0.11. Win XP, QT 7.3.1 & QT 7.4.1
>> IE7 worked.
>>
>> Jim Watters
>>    
> Firefox 2.0.0.11, Win XP, QT 7.0.3 worked for me
>
> Now the QT-File is changed (2.4 MB in place of 3.8 MB)
> Jim, can you check if it works now for you?
>
> Thanks
> Daniel

Yes it worked.  I don't believe it has any impact, but I updated to
2.0.0.12 of Firefox first.


--
Jim Watters

Yahoo ID: j1vvy ymsgr:sendIM?j1vvy
jwatters @ photocreations . ca
http://photocreations.ca

[Briar]

 

 

Briar Bentley,

Agender Northland.

316 Springfield Road.

R D 8 Whangarei

09-432-2092

0274-904-553

briar_bentley@...

 

>>> http://www.diallery <http://www.diallery.com/panos/show_4seasons.html>
.com/panos/show_4seasons.html



That is just what I was trying to do.thanks!!

 



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[Roger D. Williams]

Thanks, Erik.

The sequence of filename/number is fine. It isn't broken, so don't
fix it! <g>

Roger

On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 07:14:56 +0900, Erik Krause <erik.krause@...> wrote:

> On Friday, February 08, 2008 at 9:43, Roger D. Williams wrote:
>
>> Does it matter if the numbers are consecutive? i.e., as long as
>> numbers are in ascending order is it OK to have gaps?
>
> It is ok to have gaps. he droplet does a simple sort by filename,
> like if you clicked the respective column in explorer (it uses the
> sort functionality of the DIR command).
>
> Please let me know if you think it's better to use f.e. the creation
> date/time...
>
> best regards
>
>
>
> Erik Krause
> http://www.erik-krause.de
>
>
>

--
Work: www.adex-japan.com
Play: www.usefilm.com/member/roger

[Huck Rorick]

Hi,
Can you tell me how you got your image to pan left and right (not up
and down also)?  I used to PTgui to make a cylindrical panorama and
produce a Quicktime .mov file, but it treats it like a spherical
panorama and pans up and down to areas where I don't have any picture
(and is therefore black)?

thanks,

Huck
--- In PanoToolsNG@..., michel thoby <thobymichel@...>
wrote:

>
> Hi Briar,
>
> Le 7 févr. 08 à 05:11, Briar a écrit :
>
> > I remember seeing a panorama that covered two (or more?) seasons  
> > from the
> > same spot, and wonder if anyone else remembers that, and more  
> > importantly
> > can suggest how to do the same?
>
> This is probably what you're looking for:
> http://panograph.free.fr/lauragais/4saisons.html
>
> Make a 360° cylindrical for each season from the same spot and  
> subsequently assemble "N" of them to make a N x 360° cylindrical  
> panorama. Up to you to blend a transition between each (including  
> last to first)
> and render this as N x 360° cylindrical QTVR. Make it to wrap

around  
> to close the time loop.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michel
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Photo Surveyor - Shawn Steigner]

Welcome to the group!

If you are using PTGui to directly make your QT .mov files, you can set the
limitations you are looking for by clicking the "Settings" button next to
the "FileFormat" selection drop-down bar on the "Create Panorama" tab.
Here, you must determine the numerical value of your limits for your
panorama(either for tilting or panning). The "tilt"fileds will allow you to
prevent looking up or down. Try starting with 60 for the up and -60 for the
down.

Good luck!

PS-This is the place for your questions.

Regards-Shawn Steigner
www.photosurveyor.com




----- Original Message -----
From: "huckrorick" <huckrorick@...>
To: <PanoToolsNG@...>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 11:22 PM
Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Cylindrical pan covering two seasons


Hi,
Can you tell me how you got your image to pan left and right (not up
and down also)?  I used to PTgui to make a cylindrical panorama and
produce a Quicktime .mov file, but it treats it like a spherical
panorama and pans up and down to areas where I don't have any picture
(and is therefore black)?

thanks,

Huck
--- In PanoToolsNG@..., michel thoby <thobymichel@...>
wrote:

>
> Hi Briar,
>
> Le 7 févr. 08 à 05:11, Briar a écrit :
>
> > I remember seeing a panorama that covered two (or more?) seasons
> > from the
> > same spot, and wonder if anyone else remembers that, and more
> > importantly
> > can suggest how to do the same?
>
> This is probably what you're looking for:
> http://panograph.free.fr/lauragais/4saisons.html
>
> Make a 360° cylindrical for each season from the same spot and
> subsequently assemble "N" of them to make a N x 360° cylindrical
> panorama. Up to you to blend a transition between each (including
> last to first)
> and render this as N x 360° cylindrical QTVR. Make it to wrap

around
> to close the time loop.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michel
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[John Houghton]

--- In PanoToolsNG@..., "Shawn Steigner" <owner@...> wrote:
>
> The "tilt"fileds will allow you to prevent looking up or down.
> Try starting with 60 for the up and -60 for the down.

No need to guess.  You can measure the vertical limits on the Panorama
Editor window.

John