Jobs in the sustainability field?

[Mike Hord]

Does anyone out there have any ideas for finding a job
in a company devoted to advancing social, environmental,
and economical sustainability?

It's a big part of my life and I'm realizing that I should be
working somewhere that contributes to the cause.

So if anyone knows any jobs sites devoted to this sort of
thing, or any companies that are hiring, I'm all ears.  My
two criteria is that it be located well within the metro
Minneapolis/St. Paul area and that it be in my field
(electrical/computer engineering).

Most of the websites I've found are "fluff" jobs for liberal
arts grads- "organizers" and "advocates".  I suppose I
COULD do that kind of job, but frankly, our current
problems need engineering solutions.

Mike H.
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[Vitaliy-2]

Mike Hord wrote:
> Does anyone out there have any ideas for finding a job
> in a company devoted to advancing social, environmental,
> and economical sustainability?

I think I understand "environmental sustainability", but what exactly do you
mean by "social" and "economical" sustainability?


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[Mike Hord]

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Vitaliy <spam@...> wrote:
> Mike Hord wrote:
>  > Does anyone out there have any ideas for finding a job
>  > in a company devoted to advancing social, environmental,
>  > and economical sustainability?
>
>  I think I understand "environmental sustainability", but what exactly do you
>  mean by "social" and "economical" sustainability?

Because answering this question on list is the equivalent of dangling a live
sheep over the side of the bridge the trolls live under, I'll send Vitaliy an
off-list response.

Anyone else who wants to hear what I have to say, send me a response
OFF-LIST.

Mike H.
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[alan smith]

Do Trolls really eat the live sheep or just keep them as pets?

Mike Hord <mike.hord@...> wrote:  On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Vitaliy wrote:
> Mike Hord wrote:
> > Does anyone out there have any ideas for finding a job
> > in a company devoted to advancing social, environmental,
> > and economical sustainability?
>
> I think I understand "environmental sustainability", but what exactly do you
> mean by "social" and "economical" sustainability?

Because answering this question on list is the equivalent of dangling a live
sheep over the side of the bridge the trolls live under, I'll send Vitaliy an
off-list response.

Anyone else who wants to hear what I have to say, send me a response
OFF-LIST.

Mike H.
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[Marcel Birthelmer]

And anyway, I thought it was goats...

On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 9:59 PM, alan smith <micro_eng2@...> wrote:

> Do Trolls really eat the live sheep or just keep them as pets?
>
>
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[Nate Duehr]

Mike Hord wrote:
> Does anyone out there have any ideas for finding a job
> in a company devoted to advancing social, environmental,
> and economical sustainability?

All jobs are in that field.  We want to keep our social status, make
sure our environments are suitable for living, and keep getting paid.

And in most companies, they're also committed to keeping you working for
them in your social niche without growing you so much that you leave,
making sure the janitors clean up after you after you go home at night
so there's not trash in your wastebasket lowering your "productivity"
with smells of yesterday's lunch, and the desire to meet quarterly and
annual profit numbers.

If everyone does it right, it's "sustainable".

Oh... you meant something else?  ;-)  (Poke, poke.)

Nate
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[Mike Hord]

>  If everyone does it right, it's "sustainable".

Not the way you're talking about it, it's not.  If we're LUCKY, it's
sustainable over our lifetime.  If we aren't, well, ask a manufacturing
sector employee who lost his or her job.

>  Oh... you meant something else?  ;-)  (Poke, poke.)

Sustainability is about maintaining for the long term (at least until
a new ice age or asteroid or gamma ray burst wipes us out) a post-
neolithic lifestyle for ALL humans on the planet.

Maybe I'm shooting high.

Mike
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[Apptech]

Do not be tempted to think that the following isn't true
:-).

> Sustainability is about maintaining for the long term (at
> least until
> a new ice age

Ice age cycles are about 100,000 years.
You get about 90,000 years of glaciation (defined as about
1000+ feet of ice above where most people reading this are
sitting now) followed by about a 10,000 year "interglacial"
period. Actual cycle lengths vary somewhat. But not too too
much. So ...

> Maybe I'm shooting high.

As the current interglacial has lasted about 12,000 years so
far, and is thus about 2,000 years beyond it's use by date
already, your sustainability efforts may well last until the
next ice age. Alas. Just as well we have Global Warming ...
:-)


        Russell




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[Gerhard Fiedler]

Apptech wrote:

> Ice age cycles are about 100,000 years. You get about 90,000 years of
> glaciation (defined as about 1000+ feet of ice above where most people
> reading this are sitting now)

I took some precautions :)

Gerhard (sitting with one foot on each side of the Tropic of Capricorn)

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