J-Alice 0.5 - security risk by learning system calls

[kolya]

I run J-Alice by Jonathan Roewen from my winXP desktop.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/j-alice

She connects to an IRC channel where I usually go. And when people say
her name or /MSG her, she talks with them.
Now I wanted J-Alice to learn through input of IRC chatters.
I tested the "badanswer.aiml" that's floating around the net.
But soon I realised it's designed for Pandora bots only.
So I wrote my own simple learning.aiml that looks like this:

<!-- LEARN! -->
<category>
<pattern>WRONG</pattern>
<template>
<think>
<set name="question">
<uppercase><input index="2"/></uppercase>
</set>
</think>
What should I say?
</template>
</category>

<category>
<pattern>*</pattern>
<that>WHAT SHOULD I SAY</that>
<template>
<think>
<set name="answer"><input/></set>
</think>
<learn>
<pattern><get name="question"/></pattern>
<template><get name="answer"/></template>
</learn>
Learned.
</template></category>

We had a lot of fun with this on IRC until I realised (fortunately being
the first to do so) that something like this could easily happen:

HACKER: Annoy Kolya
BOT: Blablah.
HACKER: wrong
BOT: What should I say?
HACKER: <system>explorer</system>
BOT: Learned.
HACKER: Annoy Kolya!

At that moment an explorer window pops up at my desktop. Really.
With a similar command my HD might get deleted.
J-Alice has basically become a trojan horse. Well of course it was my
own fault for writing this learn.aiml, I know.

I still want her to be able to learn but of course not how to hack my
computer... :/
So I tried "catching" answers with the word "<SYSTEM>" or
"<SYSTEM>" in AIML but that didn't work because the word doesn't
stand alone.
And the possibilities of commands that someone can put between <system>
and </system> are endless.
Same problem occured with replacing it in the substitutions.xml.

Any ideas how to make learning more secure would be very appreciated!

Another minor problem I ran into is that the initial user input in
learning may not contain a punctuation mark for some reason. I don't
know why this is so, but it would of course help when people could just
talk freely and then correct her instead of making "preformatted"
utterances for the bot.

Kolya

_______________________________________________
This is the alicebot-general mailing list
Reply to alicebot-general@...
Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/

[mehri]

Well, there's lots of security issues when putting any AIML bot of any type out there.  With your problem below I would say you would want to solve that issue directly in the code and not try a workaround of any type.


As for J-ALICE in general, it'll be a while before I write the compatibility layer for Rebecca and swap out the J-ALICE engine with Rebecca.  However, once I do that you won't have punctuation mark problems.

However, in the meantime, you could always write the layer yourself or fix the original J-ALICE base line to fit your needs.  They're both open source to allow this and Rebecca's heavily documented.

The truth, though, is it's still going to be quite a while before I even begin swapping out the J-ALICE engine for Rebecca's and write the IRC xml layer.  I still have quite a to-do list before getting to it and only have my spare time to do it.

But it's not as if I'm doing nothing.  I'm doing quite a bit of work on Rebecca.  I'm just trying to get her to a specific point before swapping out the J-ALICE engine for her.

 ----- Original Message ----
From: kolya <kolya@...>
To: alicebot-general@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2006 2:02:36 PM
Subject: [alicebot-general] J-Alice 0.5 - security risk by learning system calls

I run J-Alice by Jonathan Roewen from my winXP desktop.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/j-alice

She connects to an IRC channel where I usually go. And when people say
her name or /MSG her, she talks with them.
Now I wanted J-Alice to learn through input of IRC chatters.
I tested the "badanswer.aiml" that's floating around the net.
But soon I realised it's designed for Pandora bots only.
So I wrote my own simple learning.aiml that looks like this:


<category>
<pattern>WRONG</pattern>
<template>
<think>
<set name="question">
<uppercase><input index="2"/></uppercase>
</set>
</think>
What should I say?
</template>
</category>

<category>
<pattern>*</pattern>
<that>WHAT SHOULD I SAY</that>
<template>
<think>
<set name="answer"><input/></set>
</think>
<learn>
<pattern><get name="question"/></pattern>
<template><get name="answer"/></template>
</learn>
Learned.
</template></category>

We had a lot of fun with this on IRC until I realised (fortunately being
the first to do so) that something like this could easily happen:

HACKER: Annoy Kolya
BOT: Blablah.
HACKER: wrong
BOT: What should I say?
HACKER: <system>explorer</system>
BOT: Learned.
HACKER: Annoy Kolya!

At that moment an explorer window pops up at my desktop. Really.
With a similar command my HD might get deleted.
J-Alice has basically become a trojan horse. Well of course it was my
own fault for writing this learn.aiml, I know.

I still want her to be able to learn but of course not how to hack my
computer... :/
So I tried "catching" answers with the word "<SYSTEM>" or
"<SYSTEM>" in AIML but that didn't work because the word doesn't
stand alone.
And the possibilities of commands that someone can put between <system>
and </system> are endless.
Same problem occured with replacing it in the substitutions.xml.

Any ideas how to make learning more secure would be very appreciated!

Another minor problem I ran into is that the initial user input in
learning may not contain a punctuation mark for some reason. I don't
know why this is so, but it would of course help when people could just
talk freely and then correct her instead of making "preformatted"
utterances for the bot.

Kolya

_______________________________________________
This is the alicebot-general mailing list
Reply to alicebot-general@...
Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/




_______________________________________________
This is the alicebot-general mailing list
Reply to alicebot-general@...
Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/

[mehri]

Something that is missing from the open source community that would help further projects like J-ALICE:

A clean well documented open source IRC C++ and Java client api for developers.

Both J-ALICE and ProgramD could really use this but I don't see any out there. :-(



----- Original Message ----
From: kolya <kolya@...>
To: alicebot-general@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2006 2:02:36 PM
Subject: [alicebot-general] J-Alice 0.5 - security risk by learning system calls

I run J-Alice by Jonathan Roewen from my winXP desktop.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/j-alice

She connects to an IRC channel where I usually go. And when people say
her name or /MSG her, she talks with them.
Now I wanted J-Alice to learn through input of IRC chatters.
I tested the "badanswer.aiml" that's floating around the net.
But soon I realised it's designed for Pandora bots only.
So I wrote my own simple learning.aiml that looks like this:


<category>
<pattern>WRONG</pattern>
<template>
<think>
<set name="question">
<uppercase><input index="2"/></uppercase>
</set>
</think>
What should I say?
</template>
</category>

<category>
<pattern>*</pattern>
<that>WHAT SHOULD I SAY</that>
<template>
<think>
<set name="answer"><input/></set>
</think>
<learn>
<pattern><get name="question"/></pattern>
<template><get name="answer"/></template>
</learn>
Learned.
</template></category>

We had a lot of fun with this on IRC until I realised (fortunately being
the first to do so) that something like this could easily happen:

HACKER: Annoy Kolya
BOT: Blablah.
HACKER: wrong
BOT: What should I say?
HACKER: <system>explorer</system>
BOT: Learned.
HACKER: Annoy Kolya!

At that moment an explorer window pops up at my desktop. Really.
With a similar command my HD might get deleted.
J-Alice has basically become a trojan horse. Well of course it was my
own fault for writing this learn.aiml, I know.

I still want her to be able to learn but of course not how to hack my
computer... :/
So I tried "catching" answers with the word "<SYSTEM>" or
"<SYSTEM>" in AIML but that didn't work because the word doesn't
stand alone.
And the possibilities of commands that someone can put between <system>
and </system> are endless.
Same problem occured with replacing it in the substitutions.xml.

Any ideas how to make learning more secure would be very appreciated!

Another minor problem I ran into is that the initial user input in
learning may not contain a punctuation mark for some reason. I don't
know why this is so, but it would of course help when people could just
talk freely and then correct her instead of making "preformatted"
utterances for the bot.

Kolya

_______________________________________________
This is the alicebot-general mailing list
Reply to alicebot-general@...
Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/




_______________________________________________
This is the alicebot-general mailing list
Reply to alicebot-general@...
Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/

[Chris Prather]

> Something that is missing from the open source community that would  
> help further projects like J-ALICE:
>
> A clean well documented open source IRC C++ and Java client api for  
> developers.
>

Java seems to have the PircBot API (http://jibble.org/pircbot.php). I  
can't really help with C++. Beyond that there is a nice API for Perl  
using POE, which I've used to hookup the Pandorabots XMLRPC interface  
(been meaning to mention Net::AIML http://search.cpan.org/~perigrin/ 
Net-AIML-v0.0.1/), and could easily be modified to hook up an AIML  
interpreter running in a shell|as a daemon|whatever on the local host.

-Chris
_______________________________________________
This is the alicebot-general mailing list
Reply to alicebot-general@...
Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/

[mehri]

I looked into that last night.  It's GPL so it's cool, LGPL would cooler though ;-)

There's also

http://moepii.sourceforge.net/

which is LGPL and I know of a few people who have used it succesfully.

I do believe it might....Just might be....time to convert one of those into C++ and do a posting on sourceforge.



----- Original Message ----
From: Chris Prather <chris@...>
To: mehri <foreverlinux@...>; Alicebot and AIML General Discussion <alicebot-general@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2006 12:14:59 PM
Subject: Re: [alicebot-general] J-Alice 0.5 - security risk by learning system calls


> Something that is missing from the open source community that would  
> help further projects like J-ALICE:
>
> A clean well documented open source IRC C++ and Java client api for  
> developers.
>

Java seems to have the PircBot API (http://jibble.org/pircbot.php). I  
can't really help with C++. Beyond that there is a nice API for Perl  
using POE, which I've used to hookup the Pandorabots XMLRPC interface  
(been meaning to mention Net::AIML http://search.cpan.org/~perigrin/ 
Net-AIML-v0.0.1/), and could easily be modified to hook up an AIML  
interpreter running in a shell|as a daemon|whatever on the local host.

-Chris
_______________________________________________
This is the alicebot-general mailing list
Reply to alicebot-general@...
Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/




_______________________________________________
This is the alicebot-general mailing list
Reply to alicebot-general@...
Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/

[V01D-2]

Hi, I'm the author of libaiml, a C++ AIML interpreter.
Although I don't work on libaiml anymore (but I don't discard continuing
it to do it someday) maybe someone is interested on it. I think it is
really usable and it is well documented.

However, the tarball with the sources is no longer accessible since I
don't have where to put it. If anyone is interested I can send you the
tarball and put it somewhere accessible.

Matt.

mehri wrote:

> I looked into that last night.  It's GPL so it's cool, LGPL would cooler though ;-)
>
> There's also
>
> http://moepii.sourceforge.net/
>
> which is LGPL and I know of a few people who have used it succesfully.
>
> I do believe it might....Just might be....time to convert one of those into C++ and do a posting on sourceforge.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Chris Prather <chris@...>
> To: mehri <foreverlinux@...>; Alicebot and AIML General Discussion <alicebot-general@...>
> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2006 12:14:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [alicebot-general] J-Alice 0.5 - security risk by learning system calls
>
>
>> Something that is missing from the open source community that would  
>> help further projects like J-ALICE:
>>
>> A clean well documented open source IRC C++ and Java client api for  
>> developers.
>>
>
> Java seems to have the PircBot API (http://jibble.org/pircbot.php). I  
> can't really help with C++. Beyond that there is a nice API for Perl  
> using POE, which I've used to hookup the Pandorabots XMLRPC interface  
> (been meaning to mention Net::AIML http://search.cpan.org/~perigrin/ 
> Net-AIML-v0.0.1/), and could easily be modified to hook up an AIML  
> interpreter running in a shell|as a daemon|whatever on the local host.
>
> -Chris
> _______________________________________________
> This is the alicebot-general mailing list
> Reply to alicebot-general@...
> Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
> Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
> Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This is the alicebot-general mailing list
> Reply to alicebot-general@...
> Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
> Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
> Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/
>
>

_______________________________________________
This is the alicebot-general mailing list
Reply to alicebot-general@...
Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/

[Dr. Rich Wallace]

Matt, you can send it to me and I will host it on alicebot.org.  But, have
you considered setting up a Sourceforge page?

> Hi, I'm the author of libaiml, a C++ AIML interpreter.
> Although I don't work on libaiml anymore (but I don't discard continuing
> it to do it someday) maybe someone is interested on it. I think it is
> really usable and it is well documented.
>
> However, the tarball with the sources is no longer accessible since I
> don't have where to put it. If anyone is interested I can send you the
> tarball and put it somewhere accessible.
>
> Matt.
>
> mehri wrote:
>> I looked into that last night.  It's GPL so it's cool, LGPL would cooler
>> though ;-)
>>
>> There's also
>>
>> http://moepii.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> which is LGPL and I know of a few people who have used it succesfully.
>>
>> I do believe it might....Just might be....time to convert one of those
>> into C++ and do a posting on sourceforge.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Chris Prather <chris@...>
>> To: mehri <foreverlinux@...>; Alicebot and AIML General Discussion
>> <alicebot-general@...>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2006 12:14:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [alicebot-general] J-Alice 0.5 - security risk by learning
>> system calls
>>
>>
>>> Something that is missing from the open source community that would
>>> help further projects like J-ALICE:
>>>
>>> A clean well documented open source IRC C++ and Java client api for
>>> developers.
>>>
>>
>> Java seems to have the PircBot API (http://jibble.org/pircbot.php). I
>> can't really help with C++. Beyond that there is a nice API for Perl
>> using POE, which I've used to hookup the Pandorabots XMLRPC interface
>> (been meaning to mention Net::AIML http://search.cpan.org/~perigrin/
>> Net-AIML-v0.0.1/), and could easily be modified to hook up an AIML
>> interpreter running in a shell|as a daemon|whatever on the local host.
>>
>> -Chris
>> _______________________________________________
>> This is the alicebot-general mailing list
>> Reply to alicebot-general@...
>> Unsubscribe and change preferences at
>> http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
>> Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
>> Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> This is the alicebot-general mailing list
>> Reply to alicebot-general@...
>> Unsubscribe and change preferences at
>> http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
>> Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
>> Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This is the alicebot-general mailing list
> Reply to alicebot-general@...
> Unsubscribe and change preferences at
> http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
> Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
> Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/
>

_______________________________________________
This is the alicebot-general mailing list
Reply to alicebot-general@...
Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/

[V01D-2]

I've considered it on the past when I actively developed it but never
decided to finally do it since I don't need all the resources
sourceforge.net provides (specially since not the project is dormant).

I'll send you the latest snapshot of the SVN version (it fixes several
issues from the "stable" branch). I think this could be considered
stable anyway.

Thanks you,
Matt.

Dr. Rich Wallace wrote:

> Matt, you can send it to me and I will host it on alicebot.org.  But, have
> you considered setting up a Sourceforge page?
>
>> Hi, I'm the author of libaiml, a C++ AIML interpreter.
>> Although I don't work on libaiml anymore (but I don't discard continuing
>> it to do it someday) maybe someone is interested on it. I think it is
>> really usable and it is well documented.
>>
>> However, the tarball with the sources is no longer accessible since I
>> don't have where to put it. If anyone is interested I can send you the
>> tarball and put it somewhere accessible.
>>
>> Matt.
>>
>> mehri wrote:
>>> I looked into that last night.  It's GPL so it's cool, LGPL would cooler
>>> though ;-)
>>>
>>> There's also
>>>
>>> http://moepii.sourceforge.net/
>>>
>>> which is LGPL and I know of a few people who have used it succesfully.
>>>
>>> I do believe it might....Just might be....time to convert one of those
>>> into C++ and do a posting on sourceforge.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Chris Prather <chris@...>
>>> To: mehri <foreverlinux@...>; Alicebot and AIML General Discussion
>>> <alicebot-general@...>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2006 12:14:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [alicebot-general] J-Alice 0.5 - security risk by learning
>>> system calls
>>>
>>>
>>>> Something that is missing from the open source community that would
>>>> help further projects like J-ALICE:
>>>>
>>>> A clean well documented open source IRC C++ and Java client api for
>>>> developers.
>>>>
>>> Java seems to have the PircBot API (http://jibble.org/pircbot.php). I
>>> can't really help with C++. Beyond that there is a nice API for Perl
>>> using POE, which I've used to hookup the Pandorabots XMLRPC interface
>>> (been meaning to mention Net::AIML http://search.cpan.org/~perigrin/
>>> Net-AIML-v0.0.1/), and could easily be modified to hook up an AIML
>>> interpreter running in a shell|as a daemon|whatever on the local host.
>>>
>>> -Chris
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This is the alicebot-general mailing list
>>> Reply to alicebot-general@...
>>> Unsubscribe and change preferences at
>>> http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
>>> Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
>>> Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This is the alicebot-general mailing list
>>> Reply to alicebot-general@...
>>> Unsubscribe and change preferences at
>>> http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
>>> Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
>>> Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> This is the alicebot-general mailing list
>> Reply to alicebot-general@...
>> Unsubscribe and change preferences at
>> http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
>> Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
>> Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This is the alicebot-general mailing list
> Reply to alicebot-general@...
> Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
> Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
> Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/
>
>

_______________________________________________
This is the alicebot-general mailing list
Reply to alicebot-general@...
Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/

[mehri]

Hi Matt,

I am glad that there is going to be somewhere for the libaiml library.  It's sad to see that you are no longer actively developing libaiml.  I think you are the first person to have made good documentation on a binary version of AIML files and I am hoping to utilize your work in my own binary loader of AIML for my own interpreter.  No matter what your endevors are, a smart person like you will make a big impact.

Will you still be staying in touch with the AIML community?



 ----- Original Message ----
From: V01D <phreakuencies@...>
To: drwallace@...; Alicebot and AIML General Discussion <alicebot-general@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2006 3:48:15 PM
Subject: Re: [alicebot-general] J-Alice 0.5 - security risk by learning system calls

I've considered it on the past when I actively developed it but never
decided to finally do it since I don't need all the resources
sourceforge.net provides (specially since not the project is dormant).

I'll send you the latest snapshot of the SVN version (it fixes several
issues from the "stable" branch). I think this could be considered
stable anyway.

Thanks you,
Matt.

Dr. Rich Wallace wrote:

> Matt, you can send it to me and I will host it on alicebot.org.  But, have
> you considered setting up a Sourceforge page?
>
>> Hi, I'm the author of libaiml, a C++ AIML interpreter.
>> Although I don't work on libaiml anymore (but I don't discard continuing
>> it to do it someday) maybe someone is interested on it. I think it is
>> really usable and it is well documented.
>>
>> However, the tarball with the sources is no longer accessible since I
>> don't have where to put it. If anyone is interested I can send you the
>> tarball and put it somewhere accessible.
>>
>> Matt.
>>
>> mehri wrote:
>>> I looked into that last night.  It's GPL so it's cool, LGPL would cooler
>>> though ;-)
>>>
>>> There's also
>>>
>>> http://moepii.sourceforge.net/
>>>
>>> which is LGPL and I know of a few people who have used it succesfully.
>>>
>>> I do believe it might....Just might be....time to convert one of those
>>> into C++ and do a posting on sourceforge.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Chris Prather <chris@...>
>>> To: mehri <foreverlinux@...>; Alicebot and AIML General Discussion
>>> <alicebot-general@...>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2006 12:14:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [alicebot-general] J-Alice 0.5 - security risk by learning
>>> system calls
>>>
>>>
>>>> Something that is missing from the open source community that would
>>>> help further projects like J-ALICE:
>>>>
>>>> A clean well documented open source IRC C++ and Java client api for
>>>> developers.
>>>>
>>> Java seems to have the PircBot API (http://jibble.org/pircbot.php). I
>>> can't really help with C++. Beyond that there is a nice API for Perl
>>> using POE, which I've used to hookup the Pandorabots XMLRPC interface
>>> (been meaning to mention Net::AIML http://search.cpan.org/~perigrin/
>>> Net-AIML-v0.0.1/), and could easily be modified to hook up an AIML
>>> interpreter running in a shell|as a daemon|whatever on the local host.
>>>
>>> -Chris
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This is the alicebot-general mailing list
>>> Reply to alicebot-general@...
>>> Unsubscribe and change preferences at
>>> http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
>>> Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
>>> Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This is the alicebot-general mailing list
>>> Reply to alicebot-general@...
>>> Unsubscribe and change preferences at
>>> http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
>>> Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
>>> Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> This is the alicebot-general mailing list
>> Reply to alicebot-general@...
>> Unsubscribe and change preferences at
>> http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
>> Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
>> Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This is the alicebot-general mailing list
> Reply to alicebot-general@...
> Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
> Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
> Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/
>
>

_______________________________________________
This is the alicebot-general mailing list
Reply to alicebot-general@...
Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/




_______________________________________________
This is the alicebot-general mailing list
Reply to alicebot-general@...
Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/

[V01D-2]

mehri wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
> I am glad that there is going to be somewhere for the libaiml library.  It's sad to see that you are no longer actively developing libaiml.  I think you are the first person to have made good documentation on a binary version of AIML files and I am hoping to utilize your work in my own binary loader of AIML for my own interpreter.  No matter what your endevors are, a smart person like you will make a big impact.

Interesting that you looked into my so-called CAIML format. I never used
it much but it proved to have significant performance improvements.

>
> Will you still be staying in touch with the AIML community?

Yes, of course. I have interests on AI and Robotics (altough I never had
any real contact with those topics) so AIML will always be of interest
to me.

Matt.
_______________________________________________
This is the alicebot-general mailing list
Reply to alicebot-general@...
Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/

[drwallace]

Matt, Is it going to be okay if someone else takes over your open
source project, in other words are you releasing the ownership to the
next volunteer who comes along?

On 8/3/06, V01D <phreakuencies@...> wrote:

> mehri wrote:
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > I am glad that there is going to be somewhere for the libaiml library.  It's sad to see that you are no longer actively developing libaiml.  I think you are the first person to have made good documentation on a binary version of AIML files and I am hoping to utilize your work in my own binary loader of AIML for my own interpreter.  No matter what your endevors are, a smart person like you will make a big impact.
>
> Interesting that you looked into my so-called CAIML format. I never used
> it much but it proved to have significant performance improvements.
>
> >
> > Will you still be staying in touch with the AIML community?
>
> Yes, of course. I have interests on AI and Robotics (altough I never had
> any real contact with those topics) so AIML will always be of interest
> to me.
>
> Matt.
> _______________________________________________
> This is the alicebot-general mailing list
> Reply to alicebot-general@...
> Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
> Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
> Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/
>

_______________________________________________
This is the alicebot-general mailing list
Reply to alicebot-general@...
Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/

[V01D-2]

I couldn't say right now. I think I would answer 'no' because I had some
ideas I still wanted to implement on it. I'm a bit obsessive about my
programs so I tend to be reluctant to someone else coding on a project
of mine.

On the other side, I realize that this ideology is a little incompatible
with the open-source-ed-ness-less-ness (...) of libaiml. In any case,
libaiml is GPL and anyone can freely use the code and fork it. But the
main project, libaiml, for the moment, I would like to keep it.

Hope it doesn't sound too possessive =S
Matt

Dr. Rich Wallace wrote:

> Matt, Is it going to be okay if someone else takes over your open
> source project, in other words are you releasing the ownership to the
> next volunteer who comes along?
>
> On 8/3/06, V01D <phreakuencies@...> wrote:
>> mehri wrote:
>>> Hi Matt,
>>>
>>> I am glad that there is going to be somewhere for the libaiml library.  It's sad to see that you are no longer actively developing libaiml.  I think you are the first person to have made good documentation on a binary version of AIML files and I am hoping to utilize your work in my own binary loader of AIML for my own interpreter.  No matter what your endevors are, a smart person like you will make a big impact.
>> Interesting that you looked into my so-called CAIML format. I never used
>> it much but it proved to have significant performance improvements.
>>
>>> Will you still be staying in touch with the AIML community?
>> Yes, of course. I have interests on AI and Robotics (altough I never had
>> any real contact with those topics) so AIML will always be of interest
>> to me.
>>
>> Matt.
>> _______________________________________________
>> This is the alicebot-general mailing list
>> Reply to alicebot-general@...
>> Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
>> Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
>> Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/
>>
> _______________________________________________
> This is the alicebot-general mailing list
> Reply to alicebot-general@...
> Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
> Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
> Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/
>
>

_______________________________________________
This is the alicebot-general mailing list
Reply to alicebot-general@...
Unsubscribe and change preferences at http://list.alicebot.org/mailman/listinfo/alicebot-general
Learn netiquette at http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
Learn to read at http://www.literacy.org/