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Is Radiant the best CMS Ruby on Rails community has to offer?
by Nutch Newbie
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Hello all: I am wondering if Radiant is the best open source CMS ruby community have? I am aware of Slate but its not open source yet!. I have also looked for a commercial Ruby CMS but i haven't had any luck. I have checked out mephisto, typo and other ruby CMS products but Radiant seems to be heading the pack if this is the case do you could you please tell me from your radiant installations - How many document are you managing using Radiant? - How do you compare against Elington CMS (Python+Django) ? - Any statistical information regarding performance, specifically delivering large number of documents? - Are there any commercial support for Radiant? Any other information that might help us to identify our CMS platform. We like to stay with Ruby but it seems to me that there are no clear enterprise class cms platform available in Ruby. Please note I am not so technical and I apologize for any comment that might be wrong. I appreciate a reply. Cheers Rob. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Radiant CMS Dev Mailing List Post: radiantcms-dev@... Unsubscribe: radiantcms-dev-unsubscribe@... Group Site: http://groups.google.com/group/radiantcms-dev/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- |
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Re: Is Radiant the best CMS Ruby on Rails community has to offer?
by Sean Cribbs-2
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Rob, If you search the mailing list archives (for this list and the general list), you will find several threads about performance. Sean Rob Stenman wrote: > Hello all: > > I am wondering if Radiant is the best open source CMS ruby community > have? I am aware of Slate but its not open source yet!. I have also > looked for a commercial Ruby CMS but i haven't had any luck. I have > checked out mephisto, typo and other ruby CMS products but Radiant > seems to be heading the pack if this is the case do you could you > please tell me from your radiant installations > > - How many document are you managing using Radiant? > - How do you compare against Elington CMS (Python+Django) ? > - Any statistical information regarding performance, specifically > delivering large number of documents? > - Are there any commercial support for Radiant? > > Any other information that might help us to identify our CMS platform. > We like to stay with Ruby but it seems to me that there are no clear > enterprise class cms platform available in Ruby. Please note I am not > so technical and I apologize for any comment that might be wrong. > > I appreciate a reply. > Cheers > Rob. > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Radiant CMS Dev Mailing List Post: radiantcms-dev@... Unsubscribe: radiantcms-dev-unsubscribe@... Group Site: http://groups.google.com/group/radiantcms-dev/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- |
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Re: Is Radiant the best CMS Ruby on Rails community has to offer?
by Chris Schumann-3
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As for support, the developers of the product are right here. I'm sure some of them have available time and would be happy to write up a(n) SLA or quote a retainer-based or per-incident support fee. If I knew Radiant like these guys, I'd do it too. Chris On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Sean Cribbs <seancribbs@...> wrote: > > Rob, > > If you search the mailing list archives (for this list and the general > list), you will find several threads about performance. > > Sean > > Rob Stenman wrote: >> Hello all: >> >> I am wondering if Radiant is the best open source CMS ruby community >> have? I am aware of Slate but its not open source yet!. I have also >> looked for a commercial Ruby CMS but i haven't had any luck. I have >> checked out mephisto, typo and other ruby CMS products but Radiant >> seems to be heading the pack if this is the case do you could you >> please tell me from your radiant installations >> >> - How many document are you managing using Radiant? >> - How do you compare against Elington CMS (Python+Django) ? >> - Any statistical information regarding performance, specifically >> delivering large number of documents? >> - Are there any commercial support for Radiant? >> >> Any other information that might help us to identify our CMS platform. >> We like to stay with Ruby but it seems to me that there are no clear >> enterprise class cms platform available in Ruby. Please note I am not >> so technical and I apologize for any comment that might be wrong. >> >> I appreciate a reply. >> Cheers >> Rob. >> > >> >> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Radiant CMS Dev Mailing List Post: radiantcms-dev@... Unsubscribe: radiantcms-dev-unsubscribe@... Group Site: http://groups.google.com/group/radiantcms-dev/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- |
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Re: Is Radiant the best CMS Ruby on Rails community has to offer?
by Sean Cribbs-2
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You can also find various people to help you with Radiant on the wiki:
http://wiki.radiantcms.org/Radiant_Pros
Sean Chris Schumann wrote: As for support, the developers of the product are right here. I'm sure some of them have available time and would be happy to write up a(n) SLA or quote a retainer-based or per-incident support fee. If I knew Radiant like these guys, I'd do it too. Chris On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Sean Cribbs seancribbs@... wrote: --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Radiant CMS Dev Mailing List Post: radiantcms-dev@... Unsubscribe: radiantcms-dev-unsubscribe@... Group Site: http://groups.google.com/group/radiantcms-dev/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- |
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Re: Is Radiant the best CMS Ruby on Rails community has to offer?
by Matt Grande-2
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Isn't this kinda like going to Bill Gates and saying "Do you prefer Windows or Mac?" On Jun 20, 5:15 am, Rob Stenman <nutch.new...@...> wrote: > Hello all: > > I am wondering if Radiant is the best open source CMS ruby community > have? I am aware of Slate but its not open source yet!. I have also > looked for a commercial Ruby CMS but i haven't had any luck. I have > checked out mephisto, typo and other ruby CMS products but Radiant > seems to be heading the pack if this is the case do you could you > please tell me from your radiant installations > > - How many document are you managing using Radiant? > - How do you compare against Elington CMS (Python+Django) ? > - Any statistical information regarding performance, specifically > delivering large number of documents? > - Are there any commercial support for Radiant? > > Any other information that might help us to identify our CMS platform. > We like to stay with Ruby but it seems to me that there are no clear > enterprise class cms platform available in Ruby. Please note I am not > so technical and I apologize for any comment that might be wrong. > > I appreciate a reply. > Cheers > Rob. Radiant CMS Dev Mailing List Post: radiantcms-dev@... Unsubscribe: radiantcms-dev-unsubscribe@... Group Site: http://groups.google.com/group/radiantcms-dev/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- |
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Re: Is Radiant the best CMS Ruby on Rails community has to offer?
by John W. Long-3
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On Jun 20, 2008, at 5:15 AM, Rob Stenman wrote: > I am wondering if Radiant is the best open source CMS ruby community > have? I am aware of Slate but its not open source yet!. I have also > looked for a commercial Ruby CMS but i haven't had any luck. I have > checked out mephisto, typo and other ruby CMS products but Radiant > seems to be heading the pack I'm not aware of any other ruby-based CMS that has the kind of community support that Radiant has right now. Here's a couple of community metrics: * The mailing list has over 500 members and averages 10-20 messages a day * There are now over 60 open source extensions for Radiant: http://wiki.radiantcms.org/Thirdparty_Extensions * 12 different companies are listed on the Radiant professionals page: http://wiki.radiantcms.org/Radiant_Pros The other projects that might come close to Radiant are Mephisto and Typo, but both projects are really focused more on blogging than the CMS space. -- John Long http://wiseheartdesign.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Radiant CMS Dev Mailing List Post: radiantcms-dev@... Unsubscribe: radiantcms-dev-unsubscribe@... Group Site: http://groups.google.com/group/radiantcms-dev/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- |
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Re: Is Radiant the best CMS Ruby on Rails community has to offer?
by John W. Long-3
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On Jun 20, 2008, at 5:15 AM, Rob Stenman wrote: > - How do you compare against Elington CMS (Python+Django) ? In respect to Elington, I wasn't familiar with it, but thanks for pointing it out. I am a fan of the Django approach to things and applaud Lawrence Journal for continuing to allow their developers to release such excellent products. I'm sure that Elington works really well for large media-driven, newspaper-like sites. Radiant's sweet spot is really smaller sites, though it can be used for larger sites as well. (Ruby-Lang.org currently has around 1300 pages.) If the language doesn't matter and you like the Elington feature set, go for it. If you have a strong preference for Ruby and Rails, Radiant will be very familiar to you and for the most part easy to extend. -- John Long http://wiseheartdesign.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Radiant CMS Dev Mailing List Post: radiantcms-dev@... Unsubscribe: radiantcms-dev-unsubscribe@... Group Site: http://groups.google.com/group/radiantcms-dev/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- |
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Re: Is Radiant the best CMS Ruby on Rails community has to offer?
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Thank you all for your response, much appreciated. I am just wondering - Radiant is a Rails app but it is rather "difficult" to extend in the way I can take advantage of the radiant features outside radiant i.e. my homemade controller/view etc.. - It is also not possible to embed Radiant as a plugin in to a Rails app and take advantage... If I am not wrong Rails pitch for "one app" approach rather then "multi-app" python based Django. I wonder if I were to choose Radiant, I should think of a multi-app rails deployment? i.e app.com and corp-web-site.com ? My assumptions might be wrong... but this is impression I get surfing arround. Again thanks for all the input. Cheers On Jun 21, 3:00 pm, "John W. Long" <johnwlong2...@...> wrote: > On Jun 20, 2008, at 5:15 AM, Rob Stenman wrote: > > > - How do you compare against Elington CMS (Python+Django) ? > > In respect to Elington, I wasn't familiar with it, but thanks for > pointing it out. I am a fan of the Django approach to things and > applaud Lawrence Journal for continuing to allow their developers to > release such excellent products. > > I'm sure that Elington works really well for large media-driven, > newspaper-like sites. Radiant's sweet spot is really smaller sites, > though it can be used for larger sites as well. (Ruby-Lang.org > currently has around 1300 pages.) > > If the language doesn't matter and you like the Elington feature set, > go for it. If you have a strong preference for Ruby and Rails, Radiant > will be very familiar to you and for the most part easy to extend. > > -- > John Longhttp://wiseheartdesign.com Radiant CMS Dev Mailing List Post: radiantcms-dev@... Unsubscribe: radiantcms-dev-unsubscribe@... Group Site: http://groups.google.com/group/radiantcms-dev/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- |
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Re: Is Radiant the best CMS Ruby on Rails community has to offer?
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On Jun 26, 2008, at 4:11 PM, Rob Stenman wrote: > > Thank you all for your response, much appreciated. > > I am just wondering > > - Radiant is a Rails app but it is rather "difficult" to extend in the > way I can take advantage of the radiant features outside radiant i.e. > my homemade controller/view etc.. You don't extend a rails app with radiant. You extend radiant with rails apps. A radiant extension is basically a rails app. It's got models, views, controllers, helpers, migrations, rake tasks, and almost everything else a rails app has. So almost anything you could do in a standalone rails app, your could conceivably do it in a radiant extension too. > - It is also not possible to embed Radiant as a plugin in to a Rails > app and take advantage... I don't think so. It just does too much to be a plugin alone. > If I am not wrong Rails pitch for "one app" approach rather then > "multi-app" python based Django. > I wonder if I were to choose Radiant, I should think of a multi-app > rails deployment? i.e app.com and corp-web-site.com ? You mean having a radiant app serving content for one section of the site, and having a rails or django app to handle a more robust web application? I think that greatly depends on your need. If you need to curate just a little bit of content, and the web application side of the project is far more important, it might be better just to go with a custom rails app. If content management is a big deal to you, you can go with the multi app approach, or just build the web application you need right into a radiant extension if its not too complicated. > My assumptions might be wrong... but this is impression I get surfing > arround. > > Again thanks for all the input. > > Cheers > May not be entirely accurate, but those are my thoughts. -Alex http://beautifulpixel.com > On Jun 21, 3:00 pm, "John W. Long" <johnwlong2...@...> wrote: >> On Jun 20, 2008, at 5:15 AM, Rob Stenman wrote: >> >>> - How do you compare against Elington CMS (Python+Django) ? >> >> In respect to Elington, I wasn't familiar with it, but thanks for >> pointing it out. I am a fan of the Django approach to things and >> applaud Lawrence Journal for continuing to allow their developers to >> release such excellent products. >> >> I'm sure that Elington works really well for large media-driven, >> newspaper-like sites. Radiant's sweet spot is really smaller sites, >> though it can be used for larger sites as well. (Ruby-Lang.org >> currently has around 1300 pages.) >> >> If the language doesn't matter and you like the Elington feature set, >> go for it. If you have a strong preference for Ruby and Rails, >> Radiant >> will be very familiar to you and for the most part easy to extend. >> >> -- >> John Longhttp://wiseheartdesign.com > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Radiant CMS Dev Mailing List Post: radiantcms-dev@... Unsubscribe: radiantcms-dev-unsubscribe@... Group Site: http://groups.google.com/group/radiantcms-dev/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- |
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Re: Is Radiant the best CMS Ruby on Rails community has to offer?
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Although there is a "radiant on rails" extension listed here: http://dev.radiantcms.org/wiki/Extensions -Alex http://beautifulpixel.com On Jun 26, 2008, at 4:11 PM, Rob Stenman wrote: > > Thank you all for your response, much appreciated. > > I am just wondering > > - Radiant is a Rails app but it is rather "difficult" to extend in the > way I can take advantage of the radiant features outside radiant i.e. > my homemade controller/view etc.. > > - It is also not possible to embed Radiant as a plugin in to a Rails > app and take advantage... > > If I am not wrong Rails pitch for "one app" approach rather then > "multi-app" python based Django. > > I wonder if I were to choose Radiant, I should think of a multi-app > rails deployment? i.e app.com and corp-web-site.com ? > > My assumptions might be wrong... but this is impression I get surfing > arround. > > Again thanks for all the input. > > Cheers > > On Jun 21, 3:00 pm, "John W. Long" <johnwlong2...@...> wrote: >> On Jun 20, 2008, at 5:15 AM, Rob Stenman wrote: >> >>> - How do you compare against Elington CMS (Python+Django) ? >> >> In respect to Elington, I wasn't familiar with it, but thanks for >> pointing it out. I am a fan of the Django approach to things and >> applaud Lawrence Journal for continuing to allow their developers to >> release such excellent products. >> >> I'm sure that Elington works really well for large media-driven, >> newspaper-like sites. Radiant's sweet spot is really smaller sites, >> though it can be used for larger sites as well. (Ruby-Lang.org >> currently has around 1300 pages.) >> >> If the language doesn't matter and you like the Elington feature set, >> go for it. If you have a strong preference for Ruby and Rails, >> Radiant >> will be very familiar to you and for the most part easy to extend. >> >> -- >> John Longhttp://wiseheartdesign.com > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Radiant CMS Dev Mailing List Post: radiantcms-dev@... Unsubscribe: radiantcms-dev-unsubscribe@... Group Site: http://groups.google.com/group/radiantcms-dev/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- |
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Re: Is Radiant the best CMS Ruby on Rails community has to offer?
by Sean Cribbs-2
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It is over a year old and not recommended!
Sean Alex Wayne wrote: Although there is a "radiant on rails" extension listed here: http://dev.radiantcms.org/wiki/Extensions -Alex http://beautifulpixel.com On Jun 26, 2008, at 4:11 PM, Rob Stenman wrote:Thank you all for your response, much appreciated. I am just wondering - Radiant is a Rails app but it is rather "difficult" to extend in the way I can take advantage of the radiant features outside radiant i.e. my homemade controller/view etc.. - It is also not possible to embed Radiant as a plugin in to a Rails app and take advantage... If I am not wrong Rails pitch for "one app" approach rather then "multi-app" python based Django. I wonder if I were to choose Radiant, I should think of a multi-app rails deployment? i.e app.com and corp-web-site.com ? My assumptions might be wrong... but this is impression I get surfing arround. Again thanks for all the input. Cheers On Jun 21, 3:00 pm, "John W. Long" johnwlong2...@... wrote: --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Radiant CMS Dev Mailing List Post: radiantcms-dev@... Unsubscribe: radiantcms-dev-unsubscribe@... Group Site: http://groups.google.com/group/radiantcms-dev/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- |
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Re: Is Radiant the best CMS Ruby on Rails community has to offer?
by Matt Grande-2
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Is there a recommended replacement for it? Because half the questions on here seem to pertain to things like that. On Jun 27, 2:19 pm, Sean Cribbs <seancri...@...> wrote: > It is over a year old and not recommended! > > Sean > > Alex Wayne wrote: > > Although there is a "radiant on rails" extension listed here:http://dev.radiantcms.org/wiki/Extensions > > > -Alex > >http://beautifulpixel.com > > > On Jun 26, 2008, at 4:11 PM, Rob Stenman wrote: > > >> Thank you all for your response, much appreciated. > > >> I am just wondering > > >> - Radiant is a Rails app but it is rather "difficult" to extend in the > >> way I can take advantage of the radiant features outside radiant i.e. > >> my homemade controller/view etc.. > > >> - It is also not possible to embed Radiant as a plugin in to a Rails > >> app and take advantage... > > >> If I am not wrong Rails pitch for "one app" approach rather then > >> "multi-app" python based Django. > > >> I wonder if I were to choose Radiant, I should think of a multi-app > >> rails deployment? i.e app.com and corp-web-site.com ? > > >> My assumptions might be wrong... but this is impression I get surfing > >> arround. > > >> Again thanks for all the input. > > >> Cheers > > >> On Jun 21, 3:00 pm, "John W. Long" <johnwlong2...@...> wrote: > > >>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 5:15 AM, Rob Stenman wrote: > > >>>> - How do you compare against Elington CMS (Python+Django) ? > > >>> In respect to Elington, I wasn't familiar with it, but thanks for > >>> pointing it out. I am a fan of the Django approach to things and > >>> applaud Lawrence Journal for continuing to allow their developers to > >>> release such excellent products. > > >>> I'm sure that Elington works really well for large media-driven, > >>> newspaper-like sites. Radiant's sweet spot is really smaller sites, > >>> though it can be used for larger sites as well. (Ruby-Lang.org > >>> currently has around 1300 pages.) > > >>> If the language doesn't matter and you like the Elington feature set, > >>> go for it. If you have a strong preference for Ruby and Rails, > >>> Radiant > >>> will be very familiar to you and for the most part easy to extend. > > >>> -- > >>> John Longhttp://wiseheartdesign.com > > Radiant CMS Dev Mailing List Post: radiantcms-dev@... Unsubscribe: radiantcms-dev-unsubscribe@... Group Site: http://groups.google.com/group/radiantcms-dev/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- |
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Re: Is Radiant the best CMS Ruby on Rails community has to offer?
by Sean Cribbs-2
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1) Build your "Rails app" piece as an extension or collection of extensions -- there are a lot of support extension for method it is definitely the road most traveled. 2) Run your Rails app and Radiant side-by-side on separate subdomains or paths. 3) Use the Radiant source as a basis for building a new application (a fresh checkout of the source). #1 and #2 have the advantage that you can track the latest Radiant source without needing any trickery. #3 gives you the most flexibility to develop what you like, but sacrifices a little in clarity of separation. Sean Matt Grande wrote: Is there a recommended replacement for it? Because half the questions on here seem to pertain to things like that. On Jun 27, 2:19 pm, Sean Cribbs seancri...@... wrote: --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Radiant CMS Dev Mailing List Post: radiantcms-dev@... Unsubscribe: radiantcms-dev-unsubscribe@... Group Site: http://groups.google.com/group/radiantcms-dev/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- |
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Re: Is Radiant the best CMS Ruby on Rails community has to offer?
by Nutch Newbie
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Sean: Correct and I tried all of the stuff you mentioned below and it works. But the problem that I am having is in the space of "authentication". In general I can't for my life figure out how to have regular users i.e. visitors of a site who becomes registered users Not admin or content contributor i,e not to confuse with radiant users.. I can't figure out regular users just doesn't work for me...is there any solution? I am getting all kinds of error. And as far as I can see reading various post this is not possible.. Could someone please confirm this? Cheers R On Jun 30, 9:01 pm, Sean Cribbs <seancri...@...> wrote: > The problem it tried to solve is one more of perception than actual > difficulty. As I have said before on the list and went into greater > detail at the RailsConf BoF session, there are three primary ways to > perform your integration: > > 1) Build your "Rails app" piece as an extension or collection of > extensions -- there are a lot of support extension for method it is > definitely the road most traveled. > 2) Run your Rails app and Radiant side-by-side on separate subdomains or > paths. > 3) Use the Radiant source as a basis for building a new application (a > fresh checkout of the source). > > #1 and #2 have the advantage that you can track the latest Radiant > source without needing any trickery. #3 gives you the most flexibility > to develop what you like, but sacrifices a little in clarity of separation. > > Sean > > Matt Grande wrote: > > Is there a recommended replacement for it? Because half the questions > > on here seem to pertain to things like that. > > > On Jun 27, 2:19 pm, Sean Cribbs <seancri...@...> wrote: > > >> It is over a year old and not recommended! > > >> Sean > > >> Alex Wayne wrote: > > >>> Although there is a "radiant on rails" extension listed here:http://dev.radiantcms.org/wiki/Extensions > > >>> -Alex > >>>http://beautifulpixel.com > > >>> On Jun 26, 2008, at 4:11 PM, Rob Stenman wrote: > > >>>> Thank you all for your response, much appreciated. > > >>>> I am just wondering > > >>>> - Radiant is a Rails app but it is rather "difficult" to extend in the > >>>> way I can take advantage of the radiant features outside radiant i.e. > >>>> my homemade controller/view etc.. > > >>>> - It is also not possible to embed Radiant as a plugin in to a Rails > >>>> app and take advantage... > > >>>> If I am not wrong Rails pitch for "one app" approach rather then > >>>> "multi-app" python based Django. > > >>>> I wonder if I were to choose Radiant, I should think of a multi-app > >>>> rails deployment? i.e app.com and corp-web-site.com ? > > >>>> My assumptions might be wrong... but this is impression I get surfing > >>>> arround. > > >>>> Again thanks for all the input. > > >>>> Cheers > > >>>> On Jun 21, 3:00 pm, "John W. Long" <johnwlong2...@...> wrote: > > >>>>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 5:15 AM, Rob Stenman wrote: > > >>>>>> - How do you compare against Elington CMS (Python+Django) ? > > >>>>> In respect to Elington, I wasn't familiar with it, but thanks for > >>>>> pointing it out. I am a fan of the Django approach to things and > >>>>> applaud Lawrence Journal for continuing to allow their developers to > >>>>> release such excellent products. > > >>>>> I'm sure that Elington works really well for large media-driven, > >>>>> newspaper-like sites. Radiant's sweet spot is really smaller sites, > >>>>> though it can be used for larger sites as well. (Ruby-Lang.org > >>>>> currently has around 1300 pages.) > > >>>>> If the language doesn't matter and you like the Elington feature set, > >>>>> go for it. If you have a strong preference for Ruby and Rails, > >>>>> Radiant > >>>>> will be very familiar to you and for the most part easy to extend. > > >>>>> -- > >>>>> John Longhttp://wiseheartdesign.com > > Radiant CMS Dev Mailing List Post: radiantcms-dev@... Unsubscribe: radiantcms-dev-unsubscribe@... Group Site: http://groups.google.com/group/radiantcms-dev/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- |
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Re: Is Radiant the best CMS Ruby on Rails community has to offer?
by Jim Gay-2
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Rob, I haven't really been following this thread so I'm sorry if I've missed any of this, but is it possible to pastie example code somewhere? (http://pastie.org) Are you attempting to |
