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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Been looking deeper
into this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I can see that wifi
connection is establish some 10-15 sec. after system startup and before user
logs in thus wpkg is sometimes running.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>The scheduled
approach CAN work but as I set some variables within WPG I then have to
manually sync these to the scheduler script which IMHO isn’t an optimal
solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Is there ANY reason
that the max connection test time parameter is limited to 10 seconds or could
this be changed in the future to ie. 30 seconds of needed? Or could there be an
retry counter in addition ie. Try 5 times wait 10 sec between.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>Fra:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Adam Williams
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<b>Sendt:</b> 18. november 2008 19:40<br>
<b>Til:</b> Michael Ugilt<br>
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<b>Emne:</b> Re: [wpkg-users] laptop mode issue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>wpkg runs before windows brings up the wifi
connection. change wpkg to run from scheduled tasks on the control panel.<br>
<br>
Michael Ugilt wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Hi all.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Have a issue as wifi connected laptop very
often do not deploy wpkg packages as expected.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Digesting the event log I can see that:
(translated)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>WPKG: Offline mode enabled: successfully
done</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>WPKG: Offline mod: server connecting method
selected</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>WPKG: Server connecting: successfully done</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>WPKG: Network resource required</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>WPKG: WNetAddConnection2-> Network path
not found</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Running in Debug mode I found the last two
line to read:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>WPKG: Network resource required</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>WPKG: successfully connected</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I suspect it can be a timing issue with
getting the wifi credentials in place in time ??</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Running exactly same config files over a
wired LAN does work (yes laptop mode)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Anything I can do?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Thx</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Michael</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<br><br>Greg Kavanagh wrote:
<br>> Here's my understanding of what happens with the eleveated-execute.js script:
<br>> It runs a shellExecute with the 'runas' parameter which requests
<br>> elevation. As it is it prompts the user for an admin user name and
<br>> password, which they won't have. Is there a way to automagically
<br>> elevate it without any user interaction, am i missing something? I
<br>> want to use this method to roll out the WPKG client to all the
<br>> machines on the network.
<br><br>Your understanding of the script is correct. However there is no way to
<br>bypass the UAC prompt except disabling UAC completely. Software
<br>installation always requires Administrator privileges which always
<br>triggers an UAC prompt on Vista. I've delveloped the execute-elevated
<br>script to reduce the amount of prompts during WPKG execution to 1 (whole
<br>wpkg.js can be run with elevated privileges and installers run by WPKG
<br>inherit this privileges).
<br><br>WPKG client does not need this wrapper as it usually runs wpkg.js with
<br>SYSTEM privileges (which is not affected by the UAC prompt "feature").
<br>However to install WPKG client you really need an administrator account.
<br>If you operate an active-directory domain you might deploy WPKG via
<br>group policies.
<br><br>br,
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<br><br>I'm trying to have wpkg-start.bat run silently on users machines who
<br>wouldn't normally have sufficient privileges to install programs. All
<br>are on Vista (why they released it I don't know).
<br><br>Here's my understanding of what happens with the eleveated-execute.js script:
<br> It runs a shellExecute with the 'runas' parameter which requests
<br>elevation. As it is it prompts the user for an admin user name and
<br>password, which they won't have. Is there a way to automagically
<br>elevate it without any user interaction, am i missing something? I
<br>want to use this method to roll out the WPKG client to all the
<br>machines on the network.
<br><br>Thanks
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<br>>>> package is (still) installed properly. So in case WPKG installed Firefox
<br>>>> 3.0.4 and the user is manually remove it WPKG will detect this (by
<br>>>> failed check) and re-execute the install commands.
<br><br>>> This has not been my experience. Once a package is in wpkg.xml, WPKG
<br>>> seems to not use the checks anymore. Maybe because I'm using WPKG 0.9.10
<br>>> still?
<br><br>Yes, the behavior in the old 0.9 versions was different than it is now in
<br>the 1. series.
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<br><br>Matt Miller wrote:
<br>> 3. Client with Firefox installed that doesn't have a Firefox entry in
<br>> wpkg.xml (or no wpkg.xml): WPKG runs, sees it has Firefox 3.0 installed,
<br>> which meets the logical check and adds Firefox to wpkg.xml at the
<br>> current revision. The installed version is not the correct version, yet
<br>> the revision is correct... Now we have to wait for the next update to be
<br>> at the correct version.
<br><br>If the installed version is not the correct version and your check still
<br>matches, then your checks are not fine-grained enough. You might add
<br>some checks for file versions or sizes to detect if really this version
<br>is installed. However for me I found it usually to be fair enough to
<br>check for the uninstall entry - the next update for this application
<br>will then be applied to that client anyway. Since I upgrade all my tools
<br>quite frequently I regard it not to be an issue.
<br><br><br>> I think it's safer to remove the all but the check for the current version.
<br>> <check type="uninstall" condition="exists" path="Mozilla Firefox (3.0.4)" />
<br>> This way, even if there's a mistake somewhere else, we're sure to get
<br>> the current version of the package.
<br><br>This is true for Firefox and some other applications which have the
<br>revision number within the uninstall entry string. I prefer applications
<br>without a separate string for each revision. So I would prefer the
<br>Firefox package to add an entry named "Mozilla Firefox" only. Windows
<br>installer also allows to enter a package revision to the uninstall entry
<br>which can be queried independently to the uninstall entry string. Latest
<br>version of WPKG support these checks too.
<br><br><br>>> In general WPKG uses the checks defined for a package to verify that the
<br>>> package is (still) installed properly. So in case WPKG installed Firefox
<br>>> 3.0.4 and the user is manually remove it WPKG will detect this (by
<br>>> failed check) and re-execute the install commands.
<br>>
<br>> This has not been my experience. Once a package is in wpkg.xml, WPKG
<br>> seems to not use the checks anymore. Maybe because I'm using WPKG 0.9.10
<br>> still?
<br><br>This might be correct. I jumped in to WPKG development and started from
<br>version 0.9. Since then I did some heavy rework on major parts of the
<br>script. So yes, it might be correct that WPKG 0.9 is behaving
<br>differently here. Current WPKG will really verify each package install
<br>status by running all checks on each synchronization. This means that if
<br>a user uninstalled Firefox WPKG will restore it at next run now.
<br><br><br>br,
<br>Rainer
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<br><br>Rainer Meier wrote:
<br>> Hi Matt,
<br><br>Hi. Thanks for your informative reply.
<br><br>> It is common practice (well, I do it like this) to increment the package
<br>> revision AND update the check according to the conditions it should have
<br>> _after_ upgrade/install.
<br><br>This is exactly what I do currently. I'm just wondering if the logical
<br>check is necessary, or even detrimental. See my proposed client 3 below.
<br><br>> What will happen on your clients is depending on the client state.
<br>>
<br>> 1. Client with Firefox prior to 3.0.3 installed:
<br><snip>
<br>> 2. Client without any Firefox installed:
<br><snip>
<br><br>3. Client with Firefox installed that doesn't have a Firefox entry in
<br>wpkg.xml (or no wpkg.xml): WPKG runs, sees it has Firefox 3.0 installed,
<br>which meets the logical check and adds Firefox to wpkg.xml at the
<br>current revision. The installed version is not the correct version, yet
<br>the revision is correct... Now we have to wait for the next update to be
<br>at the correct version.
<br><br>I think it's safer to remove the all but the check for the current version.
<br><check type="uninstall" condition="exists" path="Mozilla Firefox (3.0.4)" />
<br>This way, even if there's a mistake somewhere else, we're sure to get
<br>the current version of the package.
<br><br>> In general WPKG uses the checks defined for a package to verify that the
<br>> package is (still) installed properly. So in case WPKG installed Firefox
<br>> 3.0.4 and the user is manually remove it WPKG will detect this (by
<br>> failed check) and re-execute the install commands.
<br><br>This has not been my experience. Once a package is in wpkg.xml, WPKG
<br>seems to not use the checks anymore. Maybe because I'm using WPKG 0.9.10
<br>still?
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<p class=MsoNormal>I am running into issues where a package install/upgrade command
fails to complete. It hangs on an setup.exe process indefinitely. In the past
this has not been an issue. I am now using version 1.3.6 which now causes an
issue because the computer no longer allows you to shutdown or logoff the
computer if the wpkginst process is still running. You can logoff if you are a
local administrator, but otherwise the computer cannot reboot or logoff as a
standard user. Is this a design feature? I had not expected this feature and it
has caused some issues for me because I did not know it was going to occur. I
had as well expected a timeout feature, but that does not seem to have occurred
as well.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Leon Hedding</span><br>
<span lang=EN-US>Senior IT Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang=EN-US>Clifford Court</span><br>
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wpkg runs before windows brings up the wifi connection. change wpkg to
run from scheduled tasks on the control panel.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Have a issue as wifi
connected laptop very
often do not deploy wpkg packages as expected.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Digesting the event log I can
see that:
(translated)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">WPKG: Offline mode enabled:
successfully
done<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">WPKG: Offline mod: server
connecting method
selected<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">WPKG: Server connecting:
successfully done<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">WPKG: Network resource
required<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">WPKG: WNetAddConnection2->
Network path
not found<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Running in Debug mode I found
the last two line
to read:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">WPKG: Network resource
required<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">WPKG: successfully connected<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I suspect it can be a timing
issue with
getting the wifi credentials in place in time ??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Running exactly same config
files over a
wired LAN does work (yes laptop mode)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Anything I can do?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Michael<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Hi all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Have a issue as wifi connected laptop very
often do not deploy wpkg packages as expected.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Digesting the event log I can see that:
(translated)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>WPKG: Offline mode enabled: successfully
done<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>WPKG: Offline mod: server connecting method
selected<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>WPKG: Server connecting: successfully done<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>WPKG: Network resource required<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>WPKG: WNetAddConnection2-> Network path
not found<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Running in Debug mode I found the last two line
to read:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>WPKG: Network resource required<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>WPKG: successfully connected<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I suspect it can be a timing issue with
getting the wifi credentials in place in time ??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Running exactly same config files over a
wired LAN does work (yes laptop mode)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Anything I can do?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Michael<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<br><br>Vladimir Psenicka wrote:
<br>> Upgrade (increase revision number) package SU1 without upgrade command
<br>> and remove command, then remove package from profile:
<br><br>This is entirely correct.
<br>Here's some explanation to make it more clear...
<br><br>Removing the package from the profile will make WPKG to execute the
<br>remove commands defined within the package. As you do not want it to
<br>execute any remove commands you have to upgrade the package (on server
<br>side) to contain either an empty remove command or no remove command at
<br>all. Then increase the (server side) revision number of that package and
<br>remove it from the profile (do not delete it completely).
<br><br>On next WPKG execution WPKG will do the upgrade-before-remove process
<br>and first upgrade to the new revision available on the server side
<br>(note, the upgrade commands might be empty too). Then WPKG writes the
<br>upgraded package definition to the local settings (which contains empty
<br>uninstall string). Next step is to remove the package (executes nothing
<br>if no remove commands are existing).
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<br>and remove command, then remove package from profile:
<br><br>example:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> <package
<br>> id="SU1"
<br>> name="SU1"
<br>> revision="2"
<br>> reboot="false"
<br>> priority="10"
<br>> execute="once">
<br>>
<br>> <install cmd='%SOFTWARE%\blabla...'>
<br>> <exit code="3010" />
<br>> </install>
<br>>
<br>> </package>
</div><br><br><br>Andreas Heinlein napsal(a):
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Hello,
<br>>
<br>> I would like to know if and how it is possible to make WPKG simply
<br>> forget about a certain package, i.e. remove it from the profiles and
<br>> package list *without* making WPKG try to uninstall the package.
<br>>
<br>> I had deployed Adobe Reader 8.1.2 as package, and since I was still
<br>> quite new to WPKG, I later deployed Adobe Reader 8.1.2 SU1 as a separate
<br>> package (depending on Adobe Reader 8.1.2), which was obviously not the
<br>> best choice. Now I deployed Adobe Reader 9, which automatically
<br>> uninstalls 8.1.2 and the SU1. I increased revision number of the Adobe
<br>> Reader package and updated the checks and commands, which worked just
<br>> fine. But what now with the SU1 package?
<br>>
<br>> I removed it from the packages and profiles, which worked somehow but
<br>> made wpkg try an uninstall of SU1 (after it already had installed Adobe
<br>> Reader 9), which of course failed and let wpkg complain about a "zombie"
<br>> package; it was removed from the list of installed packages anyway.
<br>>
<br>> But what would be the "clean" way to do this?
<br>>
<br>> Bye,
<br>> Andreas
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<br><br>I would like to know if and how it is possible to make WPKG simply
<br>forget about a certain package, i.e. remove it from the profiles and
<br>package list *without* making WPKG try to uninstall the package.
<br><br>I had deployed Adobe Reader 8.1.2 as package, and since I was still
<br>quite new to WPKG, I later deployed Adobe Reader 8.1.2 SU1 as a separate
<br>package (depending on Adobe Reader 8.1.2), which was obviously not the
<br>best choice. Now I deployed Adobe Reader 9, which automatically
<br>uninstalls 8.1.2 and the SU1. I increased revision number of the Adobe
<br>Reader package and updated the checks and commands, which worked just
<br>fine. But what now with the SU1 package?
<br><br>I removed it from the packages and profiles, which worked somehow but
<br>made wpkg try an uninstall of SU1 (after it already had installed Adobe
<br>Reader 9), which of course failed and let wpkg complain about a "zombie"
<br>package; it was removed from the list of installed packages anyway.
<br><br>But what would be the "clean" way to do this?
<br><br>Bye,
<br>Andreas
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<br><br>Matt Miller wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> I have a question about which takes priority, the revision number or the
<br>> installation check. This becomes an issue with packages like Firefox
<br>> that put version numbers in the Add/Remove Programs entry.
<br>>
<br>> For instance, my Firefox 3 package for wpkg looks something like this:
<br>>
<br>> <package
<br>> id="firefox3"
<br>> name="Mozilla Firefox 3"
<br>> revision="3"
<br>> reboot="false"
<br>> priority="11">
<br>> <check type="logical" condition="or">
<br>> <check type="uninstall" condition="exists" path="Mozilla Firefox
<br>> (3.0)" />
<br>> <check type="uninstall" condition="exists" path="Mozilla Firefox
<br>> (3.0.3)" />
<br>> </check>
<br>>
<br>> <install cmd="\\%software%\firefox3\install-silent.cmd">
<br>> <exit code="0" />
<br>> </install>
<br>> <install cmd="\\%software%\firefox3\post-install.cmd" />
<br>>
<br>> <upgrade cmd="\\%software%\firefox3\install-silent.cmd" />
<br>> <upgrade cmd="\\unattended\wpkg\pkg\firefox3\post-upgrade.cmd" />
<br>>
<br>> <remove cmd="\\%software%\firefox3\remove-silent.cmd" />
<br>> <remove cmd="\\%software%\firefox3\post-remove.cmd" />
<br>> </package>
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> The logical condition "or" check lists two versions of Firefox 3. I
<br>> assume that the recent update will list "Firefox (3.0.4)" in Add/Remove
<br>> Programs. I'd like to eliminate the potential long list of logical
<br>> checks if possible.
<br>>
<br>> My question is, if increment the revision and make the check section
<br>> <check type="uninstall" condition="exists" path="Mozilla Firefox (3.0.4)" />
<br>> will WPKG attempt to run the install command or the upgrade command?
<br>> Initially, the check will fail, but it has a lower revision...
</div><br>It is common practice (well, I do it like this) to increment the package
<br>revision AND update the check according to the conditions it should have
<br>_after_ upgrade/install.
<br>What will happen on your clients is depending on the client state.
<br><br>1. Client with Firefox prior to 3.0.3 installed:
<br>Here the client already has a Firefox package installed where the
<br>revision of the installed package is lower than the one on the server.
<br>In this case WPKG will detect FIRST that the package revision has been
<br>increased and it will try to execute the upgrade command(s). And then
<br>verify what has been installed by executing the checks.
<br><br>2. Client without any Firefox installed:
<br>Here WPKG will simply run the install commands and then verify if the
<br>package has been installed (using the checks defined).
<br><br><br>In general WPKG uses the checks defined for a package to verify that the
<br>package is (still) installed properly. So in case WPKG installed Firefox
<br>3.0.4 and the user is manually remove it WPKG will detect this (by
<br>failed check) and re-execute the install commands.
<br><br><br>Just changing the checks of a package without increasing the revision
<br>number of the package will not have any effect on existing clients. WPKG
<br>will verify the installed packages via the local package definitions and
<br>since the server-side revision is not upgraded it will not do any
<br>upgrade. Just for new clients of course the new (updated) package
<br>definition will be used.
<br><br>br,
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<br><br>I have a question about which takes priority, the revision number or the
<br>installation check. This becomes an issue with packages like Firefox
<br>that put version numbers in the Add/Remove Programs entry.
<br><br>For instance, my Firefox 3 package for wpkg looks something like this:
<br><br><package
<br> id="firefox3"
<br> name="Mozilla Firefox 3"
<br> revision="3"
<br> reboot="false"
<br> priority="11">
<br> <check type="logical" condition="or">
<br> <check type="uninstall" condition="exists" path="Mozilla Firefox
<br>(3.0)" />
<br> <check type="uninstall" condition="exists" path="Mozilla Firefox
<br>(3.0.3)" />
<br> </check>
<br><br> <install cmd="\\%software%\firefox3\install-silent.cmd">
<br> <exit code="0" />
<br> </install>
<br> <install cmd="\\%software%\firefox3\post-install.cmd" />
<br><br> <upgrade cmd="\\%software%\firefox3\install-silent.cmd" />
<br> <upgrade cmd="\\unattended\wpkg\pkg\firefox3\post-upgrade.cmd" />
<br><br> <remove cmd="\\%software%\firefox3\remove-silent.cmd" />
<br> <remove cmd="\\%software%\firefox3\post-remove.cmd" />
<br></package>
<br><br><br>The logical condition "or" check lists two versions of Firefox 3. I
<br>assume that the recent update will list "Firefox (3.0.4)" in Add/Remove
<br>Programs. I'd like to eliminate the potential long list of logical
<br>checks if possible.
<br><br>My question is, if increment the revision and make the check section
<br><check type="uninstall" condition="exists" path="Mozilla Firefox (3.0.4)" />
<br>will WPKG attempt to run the install command or the upgrade command?
<br>Initially, the check will fail, but it has a lower revision...
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<br>Exit code 3010 even when reboot is overridden.
<br><br>Attaching release-candidate as SVN browising is currently unavailable (at least
<br>to me) on SF.net. This fix will be included in future releases automatically.
<br><br>FIX: If a reboot is initiated but overridden WPKG was returning exit code 0.
<br> This behavior has been changed to return code 3010 in this case which
<br> allows external tools to detect that a reboot should be executed.
<br> Fixes Bug 132.
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<br>I agree, WPKG should return exit code 3010 if a reboot is scheduled, no matter
<br>if it is overridden or not. I've fixed it within SVN (revision 30). It might be
<br>fetched from <a href="http://wpkg.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wpkg/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://wpkg.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wpkg/</a> (unfortunately it
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<br> Priority: P5
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<br><br><br>wpkg.js should return 3010 even when reboot is overridden.
<br>Now it returns 3010 when it has initiated a reboot, but return 0 when reboot is
<br>overridden, which (imho) does not make much sense...
<br><br>Installers return 3010 even when you ask them not to reboot...
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<br><br>> By the way is there any special reason why wpkg runs an upgrade before removal and not simply use the uninstall command from the server instead of the local one? This would eliminate the overhead of upgrading just to get the correct uninstall string. If the package isn't available on the server anymore wpkg should fallback to the local uninstall string.
<br><br>Yes, there is a clear reason for this. WPKG has to assume that the
<br>uninstall command in general is working fine. And therefore WPKG always
<br>executes the commands associated to the package to be processed.
<br>There are some applications where the uninstall command changes from one
<br>version to the other. So exactly in your case this would create some
<br>mess. A (outdated) package is installed locally and on the server side
<br>there is a new version with a different uninstall command. Then you do a
<br>manual remove of that version. Here WPKG has to assume the uninstall
<br>string works.
<br>The upgrade-before-remove process has been introduced to the
<br>synchronization only to allow administrators to fix broken uninstall
<br>strings remotely. Let's imagine that an administrator would like to
<br>remove a specific package from a profile. This package is already
<br>installed at xy machines but the uninstall string is wrong. So removing
<br>the package from the profile would make WPKG to try uninstalling the
<br>package - which fails. Then the administrator would have to add the
<br>package again to the profile, update it, and now the real issue... the
<br>administrator has to wait until all machines performed the upgrade (this
<br>can take weeks and is hard to trace) before he would be allowed to
<br>remove the package from the profile again in order to uninstall it on
<br>all machines.
<br><br>The upgrade-before-remove feature now allows the administrator to put a
<br>fixed package on the server while removing it from the profile. Clients
<br>will then automatically first upgrade and then properly remove.
<br><br>In case the uninstall command changes from one version to another the
<br>command on server side would probably fail to install the local version
<br>on /uninstall operation which would for sure lead to bug-reports in our
<br>Bugzilla quite quickly.
<br><br>So there is a clear association
<br>- Local metadata (wpkg.xml) is directly associate to installed software
<br>- Remote metadata (packages.xml) is directly associated to available
<br>packages
<br><br>These two things should not be mixed or it could really lead to
<br>confusing errors.
<br><br><br>I am sorry about your "special case" but I think you can live with it.
<br>You intend to do manual package removal (probably install/upgrade too)
<br>and you know about this constraint that you need to upgrade your broken
<br>package first. So I think it's no problem to do the upgrade first
<br>(manually).
<br><br>If you do it automatically the algorithm above just saves you some time
<br>in some special cases.
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<br>> synchronization. If you invoke the /remove command then there is no
<br>> upgrade-before-remove functionality.
<br><br>That's good to know.
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> If you do not use synchronization then you need to perform the /upgrade
<br>> action on the package manually. Well, I am thinking about now if it
<br>> would be a good idea to have WPKG doing the same upgrade-on-remove
<br>> functionality on /remove action as well. But I came to the conclusion
<br>> that it does not make sense. An administrator who is manually doing
<br>> upgrades (if he is not using synchornization) would most probably like
<br>> to take full control on each install/upgrade and is therefore not
<br>> willing/expecting an upgrade when issuing the /remove command. Such an
<br>> administrator would also know quite well (like you) that a specific
<br>> package needs to be upgraded before it can be removed and could
<br>> therefore initiate the upgrade manually.
<br>>
<br>> So if you want to have full manual control on install/upgrade remove I
<br>> think such implicit actions are not a good idea. But most
<br>> administrators
<br>> will use the /synchronize functionality where it makes perfect sense to
<br>> assure the package is on the latest revision before removing it.
<br>>
<br>> So please go for automatic synchronization or treat your package with a
<br>> special /upgrade action in order to fix it.
<br>>
<br>> By the way: Mixing /synchronize with manual intervention (like manual
<br>> /remove or /install) is not recommended as WPKG will try to keep the
<br>> system in-synch when using /synchronize and manual interventions will
<br>> in
<br>> any case bring the system out-of-synch with the assigned profile.
</div><br>You are perfectly right. Normally I don't run wpkg manually but for testing purposes it is quite useful.
<br><br>I created a testing profile with gtk+ instead of gtk269 attached and the upgrade and remove worked as expected.
<br><br>Thanks for your help Rainer.
<br><br>By the way is there any special reason why wpkg runs an upgrade before removal and not simply use the uninstall command from the server instead of the local one? This would eliminate the overhead of upgrading just to get the correct uninstall string. If the package isn't available on the server anymore wpkg should fallback to the local uninstall string.
<br><br>Just my two cents.
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<br><br>Marc Hennes wrote:
<br>> You described the goal I want to achieve but at the moment I have two GTK+ packages. I wanted to remove the old GTK+ package from the profile and replace it with the new one. Therefore I first tried to remove the old package by starting wpkg.js with /remove flag. And mentioned that the uninstall string is broken. So I increased the revision of the old package, added a bogo upgrade command and corrected the uninstall string.
<br><br>The upgrade-before-remove action is only executed on package
<br>synchronization. If you invoke the /remove command then there is no
<br>upgrade-before-remove functionality.
<br><br>So now I have a look at your log file. Unfortunately you did not include
<br>the local settings file (%SystemRoot%\system32\wpkg.xml) so I have to
<br>guess what is inside.
<br><br>First of all I see tha WPKG is loading two GTK packages:
<br>2008-11-14 11:19:49, DEBUG : Reading XML file:
<br>//financial.com/SG2/WPKG/WPKG/packages/pack-GTK+_2_10.xml
<br>2008-11-14 11:19:49, DEBUG : Reading XML file:
<br>//financial.com/SG2/WPKG/WPKG/packages/pack-GTK+_2_12.xml
<br><br>Could you please attach them both as well? Did you make sure that both
<br>package have different IDs? pack-GTK+_2_10.xml seems to use "gtk269" ID.
<br>If pack-GTK+_2_12.xml uses the same ID it will overwrite the package
<br>definition within WPKG (ID has to be unique).
<br><br>I can see as well that you also use packages.xml:
<br><br>2008-11-14 11:19:48, DEBUG : Successfully loaded XML file:
<br>\\financial.com\SG2\WPKG\WPKG\packages.xml
<br><br>You should check if any of your xml files contains a (re-)definition
<br>(probably due to copy-paste) of the 'gtk269' package.
<br><br><br>>From the following line I can see that the 'gtk269' package still exists:
<br>2008-11-14 11:19:50, DEBUG : Packages file contains 61
<br>packages:|7zip423|access2007|acrobat7|adminpak|acrobat8|acrobat9|flashplayer-test|flashplayer|alcateltapi|alcateltapi6.3|TestHost|o2007cnv|cygwin|eclipse|fcomregsettings|gs852|gsview47|gtk269|gtk+|ibmrn|ie7|java150_12|java150_13|jdk150_11|jre150_11|wse|firefox20|firefox30|thunderbird107|mysqlodbc35112|dotnet1.1|notepad4|ocstask|office2003|office2007|ooo20|OOo3|paintdotnet|pidgin|pimphony|pimphony6.3|quicktimealternative|ocs-remove|runocs|reutersexcellink|rm6|roxio|test_reboot|gimp228|tortoise1818|visio2007pro|visio2007std|vs2005|vmrcplus|vmwareplayer|vncviewer|wininstaller|wireshark|wpkg-update|wpkg-folder-remove|xmllite-KB915865
<br><br>This seems to be correct - but I have to admit that the DEBUG output
<br>does not show me which version the 'gtk269' package uses. It also reads
<br>a package called 'gtk+' which might be the one defined in
<br>'pack-GTK+_2_12.xml'.
<br><br><br><br>And hmm, now I miss some synchronization output. So to me it looks
<br>really like you're invoking 'wpkg.js /remove...' and not synchronization.
<br>Again, WPKG is not doing the upgrade-before-remove action on /remove
<br>command (which is supposed to do an immediate remove) but it only
<br>executes upgrade-before-remove if you use the /synchronize option.
<br><br>So the way to go for you here is to use synchronization which makes sure
<br>the system gets exactly the packages assigned within the profile.
<br><br>If you do not use synchronization then you need to perform the /upgrade
<br>action on the package manually. Well, I am thinking about now if it
<br>would be a good idea to have WPKG doing the same upgrade-on-remove
<br>functionality on /remove action as well. But I came to the conclusion
<br>that it does not make sense. An administrator who is manually doing
<br>upgrades (if he is not using synchornization) would most probably like
<br>to take full control on each install/upgrade and is therefore not
<br>willing/expecting an upgrade when issuing the /remove command. Such an
<br>administrator would also know quite well (like you) that a specific
<br>package needs to be upgraded before it can be removed and could
<br>therefore initiate the upgrade manually.
<br><br>So if you want to have full manual control on install/upgrade remove I
<br>think such implicit actions are not a good idea. But most administrators
<br>will use the /synchronize functionality where it makes perfect sense to
<br>assure the package is on the latest revision before removing it.
<br><br>So please go for automatic synchronization or treat your package with a
<br>special /upgrade action in order to fix it.
<br><br>By the way: Mixing /synchronize with manual intervention (like manual
<br>/remove or /install) is not recommended as WPKG will try to keep the
<br>system in-synch when using /synchronize and manual interventions will in
<br>any case bring the system out-of-synch with the assigned profile.
<br><br>So I suggest you to just remove your 'gtk269' package from the profile
<br>and re-run synchronization. Then WPKG will recognize that
<br>- 'gtk269' is outdated => upgrade
<br>- 'gtk269' is not part of the profile any more => uninstall
<br><br>br,
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<br><br><br>> I think this log misses some entries. Especially I cannot see the whole
<br>> debug output where WPKG checks the existene of a package and verifies
<br>> the install state by checks. Probably you could post the following:
<br><br>> - Full log file
<br>> - Current package definition (XML file)
<br>> - Client settings file (%SystemRoot%\system32\wpkg.xml)
<br><br>See attached files.
<br><br><br>> It is true that WPKG will do an upgrade of a package before the remove
<br>> process is started. Are you sure the package is still available to WPKG
<br>> on the server side?
<br><br>Of course it is. The package is mentioned in the log.
<br><br>> WPKG can do an upgrade only if the same package
<br>> (package ID "gtk269") in your case is still available on the server.
<br>> Probably you canged the package ID too - if you did so, then your "new"
<br>> package is not related to the installed GTK package from WPKG point of
<br>> view. So if you changed the package ID to "gtk2691" or something else,
<br>> then WPKG cannot do the upgrade.
<br><br>You described the goal I want to achieve but at the moment I have two GTK+ packages. I wanted to remove the old GTK+ package from the profile and replace it with the new one. Therefore I first tried to remove the old package by starting wpkg.js with /remove flag. And mentioned that the uninstall string is broken. So I increased the revision of the old package, added a bogo upgrade command and corrected the uninstall string.
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<br><br>Marc Hennes wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> I am using WPKG 1.0.2. I thought this version has this upgrade-before-remove feature implemented (At least I found a hint in the release notes for version 1.0).
<br>> But I have a broken uninstall command at the moment.
<br>> So I increased the package version and corrected the uninstall string but there is no update triggered.
<br>> WPKG just tries to use the local uninstall string.
<br>>
<br>> Here is some debug output:
<br>>
<br>> 2008-11-13 18:52:53, DEBUG : Using profile(s):|HP PC Office 2007|
<br>> 2008-11-13 18:52:53, INFO : Removing GTK+ 2.10.13 runtime environment (gtk269)...
<br>> 2008-11-13 18:52:53, DEBUG : Found system locale: 407
<br>> 2008-11-13 18:52:53, DEBUG : Found language definition node for language ID 407
<br>> 2008-11-13 18:52:55, DEBUG : Executing command: "%CommonProgramFiles%\GTK\2.0\unins000.exe" /VERYSILENT
<br>> 2008-11-13 18:52:55, ERROR : Command '"%CommonProgramFiles%\GTK\2.0\unins000.exe" /VERYSILENT" was not successful.|Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.|
<br>> 2008-11-13 18:52:55, DEBUG : Command returned result: undefined
<br>> 2008-11-13 18:52:55, ERROR : Exit code returned non-successful value: undefined|Package: GTK+ 2.10.13 runtime environment.|Command:|"%CommonProgramFiles%\GTK\2.0\unins000.exe" /VERYSILENT
<br>> 2008-11-13 18:52:55, DEBUG : Checking existence of package: GTK+ 2.10.13 runtime environment
<br>> 2008-11-13 18:52:55, DEBUG : Uninstall entry for GTK+ 2.10.13 runtime environment was found: test successful
<br>> 2008-11-13 18:52:55, DEBUG : Checking gtk269 zombie state.
<br>> 2008-11-13 18:52:55, ERROR : Could not process (remove) GTK+ 2.10.13 runtime environment.|Package still installed.
<br>> 2008-11-13 18:52:55, DEBUG : Saving sorted settings to 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\wpkg.xml'.
</div><br>I think this log misses some entries. Especially I cannot see the whole
<br>debug output where WPKG checks the existene of a package and verifies
<br>the install state by checks. Probably you could post the following:
<br><br>- Full log file
<br>- Current package definition (XML file)
<br>- Client settings file (%SystemRoot%\system32\wpkg.xml)
<br><br>It is true that WPKG will do an upgrade of a package before the remove
<br>process is started. Are you sure the package is still available to WPKG
<br>on the server side? WPKG can do an upgrade only if the same package
<br>(package ID "gtk269") in your case is still available on the server.
<br>Probably you canged the package ID too - if you did so, then your "new"
<br>package is not related to the installed GTK package from WPKG point of
<br>view. So if you changed the package ID to "gtk2691" or something else,
<br>then WPKG cannot do the upgrade.
<br><br><br>br,
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<br><br>I am using WPKG 1.0.2. I thought this version has this upgrade-before-remove feature implemented (At least I found a hint in the release notes for version 1.0).
<br>But I have a broken uninstall command at the moment.
<br>So I increased the package version and corrected the uninstall string but there is no update triggered.
<br>WPKG just tries to use the local uninstall string.
<br><br>Here is some debug output:
<br><br>2008-11-13 18:52:53, DEBUG : Using profile(s):|HP PC Office 2007|
<br>2008-11-13 18:52:53, INFO : Removing GTK+ 2.10.13 runtime environment (gtk269)...
<br>2008-11-13 18:52:53, DEBUG : Found system locale: 407
<br>2008-11-13 18:52:53, DEBUG : Found language definition node for language ID 407
<br>2008-11-13 18:52:55, DEBUG : Executing command: "%CommonProgramFiles%\GTK\2.0\unins000.exe" /VERYSILENT
<br>2008-11-13 18:52:55, ERROR : Command '"%CommonProgramFiles%\GTK\2.0\unins000.exe" /VERYSILENT" was not successful.|Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.|
<br>2008-11-13 18:52:55, DEBUG : Command returned result: undefined
<br>2008-11-13 18:52:55, ERROR : Exit code returned non-successful value: undefined|Package: GTK+ 2.10.13 runtime environment.|Command:|"%CommonProgramFiles%\GTK\2.0\unins000.exe" /VERYSILENT
<br>2008-11-13 18:52:55, DEBUG : Checking existence of package: GTK+ 2.10.13 runtime environment
<br>2008-11-13 18:52:55, DEBUG : Uninstall entry for GTK+ 2.10.13 runtime environment was found: test successful
<br>2008-11-13 18:52:55, DEBUG : Checking gtk269 zombie state.
<br>2008-11-13 18:52:55, ERROR : Could not process (remove) GTK+ 2.10.13 runtime environment.|Package still installed.
<br>2008-11-13 18:52:55, DEBUG : Saving sorted settings to 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\wpkg.xml'.
<br><br><br>Marc
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<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> -----Original Message-----
<br>> From: <a href="http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=20425893&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">kpa@...</a> [mailto:<a href="http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=20425893&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">kpa@...</a>] On Behalf Of Kai Pastor
<br>> Sent: 10 November 2008 12:26
<br>> To: Jones Keith
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<br>> Subject: RE: [wpkg-users] Can't use computer account authentication with WPKG Client 1.3.6
<br>>
<br>> > -----Original Message-----
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<br>> > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:16 PM
<br>> ...
<br>> > Question :-)
<br>> >
<br>> > In theory, (although it's probably not as simple programmatically)
<br>> doesn't
<br>> > LocalSystem attempt connections as the machine account? By that I mean,
<br>> > <computername>$ and not just <computername>.
<br>>
<br>> Yes, this is the case, and I use it for WPKG Client <= 1.3.5.
<br>>
<br>> > Is the "use computer credentials" option just because people are missing
<br>> the
<br>> > point of adding a $ to the computer name or share security?
<br>> >
<br>> > Sorry... it's a naïve thought again but I could see it as a easy
<br>> oversight.
<br>> >
<br>> > I've spent far too much time handling this idea in scripts!
<br>>
<br>> It doesn't matter whether you specify SYSTEM, DOMAIN\MACHINE or
<br>> DOMAIN\MACHINE$. You don't know the password for the machine account, and so
<br>> you get an error.
<br>> Apart from that, I want to deploy WPKG Client with a common settings.xml to
<br>> a number of machines. For this purpose there must be no machine-dependent
<br>> part in the settings.
<br>>
</div>
<br> Ahh... yes I see what you mean! I was firmly grasping the wrong end of the stick
<br>and thinking it was just a security issue.
<br><br> The client needs to detect a blank username/password for the sources path and
<br>make sure WNetAddConnection2 is called with null to make the connection in the context
<br>of LocalSystem. Does that sound right?
<br><br> Okay, I can't see that happening in the 1.3.5 code. Well I haven't found it yet...
<br><br> Rainer: Is the 1.3.6 source available yet? Is this the problem for Kai? Maybe you
<br>can do the same as for the service account and look for "SYSTEM" as the username?
<br>I can have a go at patching it if you want :-)
<br><br>Have fun,
<br><br>Keefy
<br> > Bye,
<br>> Kai Pastor.
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<br><br>Ronnie Carlos Tavares Nunes wrote:
<br>> I trying to use wget with wpkg. I want to define a variable inside the
<br>> file profile.xml to set the option "limit bandwith" of wget, according
<br>> the type of profile I have. Question: is it possible? (Set bandwidth =
<br>> 10k), for example.
<br><br>Yes, this should be possible.
<br><br>Try a profile definition like...
<br><br><profiles>
<br> <profile id="myprofile">
<br> <package package-id="firefox" />
<br> <variable name="MAXBANDWITH" value="10k" /></profile>
<br></profiles>
<br><br><br>Then use a package like
<br><br><br><packages>
<br> <package name="" id="" installdate="2007-11-23T22:00:00">
<br> <variable name="" value="" lcid="asdf" />
<br> <download target="sdfas" url="" timeout="" />
<br> <check>check</check>
<br> <install cmd="wget --limit-rate=%MAXBANDWITH% ..."></install>
<br> </package>
<br></packages>
<br><br>This should allow you to use different bandwith limitations for each
<br>profile.
<br><br><br>br,
<br>Rainer
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<br><br>I trying to use wget with wpkg. I want to define a variable inside the
<br>file profile.xml to set the option "limit bandwith" of wget, according
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<br>> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:16 PM
<br>...
<br>> Question :-)
<br>>
<br>> In theory, (although it's probably not as simple programmatically)
<br>doesn't
<br>> LocalSystem attempt connections as the machine account? By that I mean,
<br>> <computername>$ and not just <computername>.
<br><br>Yes, this is the case, and I use it for WPKG Client <= 1.3.5.
<br><br>> Is the "use computer credentials" option just because people are missing
<br>the
<br>> point of adding a $ to the computer name or share security?
<br>>
<br>> Sorry... it's a naïve thought again but I could see it as a easy
<br>oversight.
<br>>
<br>> I've spent far too much time handling this idea in scripts!
<br><br>It doesn't matter whether you specify SYSTEM, DOMAIN\MACHINE or
<br>DOMAIN\MACHINE$. You don't know the password for the machine account, and so
<br>you get an error.
<br>Apart from that, I want to deploy WPKG Client with a common settings.xml to
<br>a number of machines. For this purpose there must be no machine-dependent
<br>part in the settings.
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<br><br>Ben Hartmann wrote:
<br>> I'm searching for an easy solution to get a notification for every
<br>> upgrade/installation (incl errors) on
<br>> my wpkg-clients via mail. Has anyone already a solution for this?
<br><br>WPKG supports detailed logging mechanism. You might run a server-side
<br>monitoring process which is watching the shared log folder and parses
<br>the files for lines logged with ERROR severity. Such a script could
<br>trigger any kind of action (including sending a report e-mail).
<br><br>And no, I currently do not have such a solution yet ready to be used.
<br><br>Probably somebody else has...
<br><br>br,
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<br><br>I'm searching for an easy solution to get a notification for every
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