IDE Support

[mnwicket]

So is anyone working on better IDE support for grails?  I just took a look at ruby on rails through netbeans and was quite blown away at how nice it was to do development with juby.

Would love to see something similar for grails...and would love to help development if someone is already working on it.

[Gordon Dickens]

I am working with the Groovy on Grails plugin for IntelliJ, its not
perfect, but it is usable.

I reference the plugin from my blog: http://grailsframework.blogspot.com/

Regards,
Gordon Dickens

mnwicket wrote:

> So is anyone working on better IDE support for grails?  I just took a look at
> ruby on rails through netbeans and was quite blown away at how nice it was
> to do development with juby.
>
> Would love to see something similar for grails...and would love to help
> development if someone is already working on it.
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[Robby O'Connor]

im working on a groovy forms module for openmrs

On 4/24/08, Gordon Dickens <gdickens@...> wrote:

> I am working with the Groovy on Grails plugin for IntelliJ, its not
> perfect, but it is usable.
>
> I reference the plugin from my blog: http://grailsframework.blogspot.com/
>
> Regards,
> Gordon Dickens
>
> mnwicket wrote:
> > So is anyone working on better IDE support for grails?  I just took a look
> at
> > ruby on rails through netbeans and was quite blown away at how nice it was
> > to do development with juby.
> >
> > Would love to see something similar for grails...and would love to help
> > development if someone is already working on it.
> > --
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[Robby O'Connor]

erm wrong list sorry folks

On 4/24/08, robby o'connor <robby.oconnor@...> wrote:

> im working on a groovy forms module for openmrs
>
> On 4/24/08, Gordon Dickens <gdickens@...> wrote:
> > I am working with the Groovy on Grails plugin for IntelliJ, its not
> > perfect, but it is usable.
> >
> > I reference the plugin from my blog: http://grailsframework.blogspot.com/
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gordon Dickens
> >
> > mnwicket wrote:
> > > So is anyone working on better IDE support for grails?  I just took a
> look
> > at
> > > ruby on rails through netbeans and was quite blown away at how nice it
> was
> > > to do development with juby.
> > >
> > > Would love to see something similar for grails...and would love to help
> > > development if someone is already working on it.
> > > --
> > > View this message in context:
> > http://www.nabble.com/IDE-Support-tp16850721p16850721.html
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> > Regards,
> > Gordon Dickens
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[Robby O'Connor]

i feel i should explain: im on my phone and clicked the wrong link and
posted to the grails dev list. Apologies once again. -rob

On 4/24/08, robby o'connor <robby.oconnor@...> wrote:

> erm wrong list sorry folks
>
> On 4/24/08, robby o'connor <robby.oconnor@...> wrote:
> > im working on a groovy forms module for openmrs
> >
> > On 4/24/08, Gordon Dickens <gdickens@...> wrote:
> > > I am working with the Groovy on Grails plugin for IntelliJ, its not
> > > perfect, but it is usable.
> > >
> > > I reference the plugin from my blog:
> http://grailsframework.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Gordon Dickens
> > >
> > > mnwicket wrote:
> > > > So is anyone working on better IDE support for grails?  I just took a
> > look
> > > at
> > > > ruby on rails through netbeans and was quite blown away at how nice it
> > was
> > > > to do development with juby.
> > > >
> > > > Would love to see something similar for grails...and would love to
> help
> > > > development if someone is already working on it.
> > > > --
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> > > http://www.nabble.com/IDE-Support-tp16850721p16850721.html
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> > > Gordon Dickens
> > > gdickens@...
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[Steve Holmes]

The support for Groovy and Grails in Intellij Idea should at least equally blow your mind.  My personal opinion is that it's the best IDE for a Dynamic language ever created and just getting better.  Also, it makes it almost completely seamless working with a mixed Java/Groovy project.  In addition, the Netbeans people have been putting resources into building a plugin although I didn't find it to be anywhere near the capabilities of intellij yet.  Eclipse has a plugin with some decent capabilities but it's a bit buggy.  But if you really want a good IDE there is no beating Intellij.

mnwicket wrote:

So is anyone working on better IDE support for grails?  I just took a look at ruby on rails through netbeans and was quite blown away at how nice it was to do development with juby.

Would love to see something similar for grails...and would love to help development if someone is already working on it.

[Mingfai]

lacks of a very good open source/free IDE for Grails hinders its adoption. I hope the situation will improve in the future.

regards,
mingfai

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Steve Holmes <iamsteveholmes@...> wrote:

The support for Groovy and Grails in Intellij Idea should at least equally
blow your mind.  My personal opinion is that it's the best IDE for a Dynamic
language ever created and just getting better.  Also, it makes it almost
completely seamless working with a mixed Java/Groovy project.  In addition,
the Netbeans people have been putting resources into building a plugin
although I didn't find it to be anywhere near the capabilities of intellij
yet.  Eclipse has a plugin with some decent capabilities but it's a bit
buggy.  But if you really want a good IDE there is no beating Intellij.

mnwicket wrote:
>
> So is anyone working on better IDE support for grails?  I just took a look
> at ruby on rails through netbeans and was quite blown away at how nice it
> was to do development with juby.
>
> Would love to see something similar for grails...and would love to help
> development if someone is already working on it.
>

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[mnwicket]

Yeah, I've used both Intellij and Eclipse plugin.....neither of them are very good compared to netbeans and ruby.  And Intellij is NOT worth a $500 license fee.



The support for Groovy and Grails in Intellij Idea should at least equally blow your mind.  My personal opinion is that it's the best IDE for a Dynamic language ever created and just getting better.  Also, it makes it almost completely seamless working with a mixed Java/Groovy project.  In addition, the Netbeans people have been putting resources into building a plugin although I didn't find it to be anywhere near the capabilities of intellij yet.  Eclipse has a plugin with some decent capabilities but it's a bit buggy.  But if you really want a good IDE there is no beating Intellij.

mnwicket wrote:

So is anyone working on better IDE support for grails?  I just took a look at ruby on rails through netbeans and was quite blown away at how nice it was to do development with juby.

Would love to see something similar for grails...and would love to help development if someone is already working on it.

[Erik Pragt]

Hi,

Let's not start the 10 billionth 'my IDE is better than yours' discussion,
but please provide some arguments in the claims you make. I personally like
JetGroovy a lot, because of the refactoring support and the integration
between Java and Groovy.

So maybe you can make some points you currently miss in the IntelliJ and
Eclipse plugins, so maybe they can be added in future versions!

Erik

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mnwicket [mailto:lenzenc@...]
> Sent: donderdag 24 april 2008 20:59
> To: dev@...
> Subject: Re: [grails-dev] IDE Support
>
>
> Yeah, I've used both Intellij and Eclipse plugin.....neither
> of them are very good compared to netbeans and ruby.  And
> Intellij is NOT worth a $500 license fee.
>
>
>
> Steve Holmes wrote:
> >
> > The support for Groovy and Grails in Intellij Idea should at least
> > equally blow your mind.  My personal opinion is that it's
> the best IDE
> > for a Dynamic language ever created and just getting
> better.  Also, it
> > makes it almost completely seamless working with a mixed
> Java/Groovy
> > project.  In addition, the Netbeans people have been
> putting resources
> > into building a plugin although I didn't find it to be
> anywhere near
> > the capabilities of intellij yet.  Eclipse has a plugin with some
> > decent capabilities but it's a bit buggy.  But if you really want a
> > good IDE there is no beating Intellij.
> >
> >
> > mnwicket wrote:
> >>
> >> So is anyone working on better IDE support for grails?  I
> just took a
> >> look at ruby on rails through netbeans and was quite blown away at
> >> how nice it was to do development with juby.
> >>
> >> Would love to see something similar for grails...and would love to
> >> help development if someone is already working on it.
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/IDE-Support-tp16850721p16851539.html
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[Marcel Overdijk]

IntelliJ support for Groovy and Grails not good? Are you kidding me?

I know that you state that in your opinion it is not good *compared* to netbeans and ruby, but what are you missing then in IntelliJ?
Please give some aruguments and maybe the good folks at IDEA will pick it up and add it to the plugin.


Cheers,
Marcel


Yeah, I've used both Intellij and Eclipse plugin.....neither of them are very good compared to netbeans and ruby.  And Intellij is NOT worth a $500 license fee.

Steve Holmes wrote:

The support for Groovy and Grails in Intellij Idea should at least equally blow your mind.  My personal opinion is that it's the best IDE for a Dynamic language ever created and just getting better.  Also, it makes it almost completely seamless working with a mixed Java/Groovy project.  In addition, the Netbeans people have been putting resources into building a plugin although I didn't find it to be anywhere near the capabilities of intellij yet.  Eclipse has a plugin with some decent capabilities but it's a bit buggy.  But if you really want a good IDE there is no beating Intellij.

mnwicket wrote:

So is anyone working on better IDE support for grails?  I just took a look at ruby on rails through netbeans and was quite blown away at how nice it was to do development with juby.

Would love to see something similar for grails...and would love to help development if someone is already working on it.

[mnwicket]

Ok, so we have established that Intellij supports groovy/grails and that there is plugin for eclipse but it is bugged.  So my next question is, is anymore actively working on the eclipse plugin...I would be interested in helping out because although it is said that Intellij has a nice plugin I just don't think it is worth paying $500 for it.  Same question applied to netbeans.



IntelliJ support for Groovy and Grails not good? Are you kidding me?

I know that you state that in your opinion it is not good *compared* to netbeans and ruby, but what are you missing then in IntelliJ?
Please give some aruguments and maybe the good folks at IDEA will pick it up and add it to the plugin.


Cheers,
Marcel


Yeah, I've used both Intellij and Eclipse plugin.....neither of them are very good compared to netbeans and ruby.  And Intellij is NOT worth a $500 license fee.

Steve Holmes wrote:

The support for Groovy and Grails in Intellij Idea should at least equally blow your mind.  My personal opinion is that it's the best IDE for a Dynamic language ever created and just getting better.  Also, it makes it almost completely seamless working with a mixed Java/Groovy project.  In addition, the Netbeans people have been putting resources into building a plugin although I didn't find it to be anywhere near the capabilities of intellij yet.  Eclipse has a plugin with some decent capabilities but it's a bit buggy.  But if you really want a good IDE there is no beating Intellij.

mnwicket wrote:

So is anyone working on better IDE support for grails?  I just took a look at ruby on rails through netbeans and was quite blown away at how nice it was to do development with juby.

Would love to see something similar for grails...and would love to help development if someone is already working on it.

[Dave Klein]

Actually, an IntelliJ IDEA license is only $249, student or teacher license is only $99.  With that said, the plugins for Eclipse, NetBeans, and I believe, JDeveloper are all being actively developed. 

------ Original Message ------
Received: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:27:52 PM CDT
From: mnwicket <lenzenc@...>
To: dev@...
Subject: Re: [grails-dev] IDE Support



Ok, so we have established that Intellij supports groovy/grails and that
there is plugin for eclipse but it is bugged. So my next question is, is
anymore actively working on the eclipse plugin...I would be interested in
helping out because although it is said that Intellij has a nice plugin I
just don't think it is worth paying $500 for it. Same question applied to
netbeans.



Marcel Overdijk wrote:
>
> IntelliJ support for Groovy and Grails not good? Are you kidding me?
>
> I know that you state that in your opinion it is not good *compared* to
> netbeans and ruby, but what are you missing then in IntelliJ?
> Please give some aruguments and maybe the good folks at IDEA will pick it
> up and add it to the plugin.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Marcel
>
>
> mnwicket wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I've used both Intellij and Eclipse plugin.....neither of them are
>> very good compared to netbeans and ruby. And Intellij is NOT worth a
>> $500 license fee.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>
>>> The support for Groovy and Grails in Intellij Idea should at least
>>> equally blow your mind. My personal opinion is that it's the best IDE
>>> for a Dynamic language ever created and just getting better. Also, it
>>> makes it almost completely seamless working with a mixed Java/Groovy
>>> project. In addition, the Netbeans people have been putting resources
>>> into building a plugin although I didn't find it to be anywhere near the
>>> capabilities of intellij yet. Eclipse has a plugin with some decent
>>> capabilities but it's a bit buggy. But if you really want a good IDE
>>> there is no beating Intellij.
>>>
>>>
>>> mnwicket wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So is anyone working on better IDE support for grails? I just took a
>>>> look at ruby on rails through netbeans and was quite blown away at how
>>>> nice it was to do development with juby.
>>>>
>>>> Would love to see something similar for grails...and would love to help
>>>> development if someone is already working on it.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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[Alex Shneyderman]

>  IntelliJ support for Groovy and Grails not good? Are you kidding me?

Oh, common !!!! Don't let me started:

- GSP support sucks (where is autocomplete for tags?) - text
highlighting is not much of a support nowadays.
- Domain object's auto-completion is non existent and so is most other
artifacts' autocompletion
- Refactoring is almost non-existent.

Not groovy/grails related but annoys the hell out of me:
- The IDEA's porject layout is the least intuitive ever - I would say
really stupid. I am still looking for ways to move thongs from source
folder to another source folder. (Just dragging does not work).
- How do you create a linked folder in the project?
- It takes forever to figure out how to check things into SVN.
- Copy/Paste between idea and OS file does not work.

....

The list of irritations goes on. I am not sure why all of you IDEA
lovers out there think it is the best IDE ... I think it sucks big
time.

IDEA is the best we got - it does not mean it is any good.


>  I know that you state that in your opinion it is not good *compared* to
>  netbeans and ruby, what are you missing then in IntelliJ.
>  Please give some aruguments and maybe the good folks at IDEA will pick it up
>  and add it to the plugin.

Alex.

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[Luke Daley]

If big heavy IDE's are not your bag, and you want to try something a  
little more nimble (and are on a Mac), have a look at TextMate <http://macromates.com 
 >. It has pretty decent support for Groovy and Grails.

Disclaimer: I look after the Groovy and Grails support.

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[Stephan M. February]

I am happily developing using MyEclipseIDE + Eclipse Groovy Plugin. Groovy support in Eclipse does not suck. Then again, My most valued feature in an IDE is syntax highlighting.

The things that would make me even more productive would be:

  - Graphical webflow editor
  - Graphical form editing for GSP pages

Features that would blow me away, would be :

  - Graphical editing / layout support for the gwt-extjs Plugin
  - Support for graphically binding gwt-extjs controls to domains or "datasets"
  - In case it's not obvious where I'm going with the above,
    it's a RAD environment akin to Delphi/C++ Builder for Rich Internet Apps.

I think the Groovy Eclipse guys have done a great job until now, and the latest speed improvements have made me a very happy coder indeed. Keep up the good work guys! :)

Regards
Stephan February
Adeptiva Linux Pte Ltd
Co. Reg: 200404633R


----- "Erik Pragt" <erik@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Let's not start the 10 billionth 'my IDE is better than yours'
> discussion,
> but please provide some arguments in the claims you make. I personally
> like
> JetGroovy a lot, because of the refactoring support and the
> integration
> between Java and Groovy.
>
> So maybe you can make some points you currently miss in the IntelliJ
> and
> Eclipse plugins, so maybe they can be added in future versions!
>
> Erik
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mnwicket [mailto:lenzenc@...]
> > Sent: donderdag 24 april 2008 20:59
> > To: dev@...
> > Subject: Re: [grails-dev] IDE Support
> >
> >
> > Yeah, I've used both Intellij and Eclipse plugin.....neither
> > of them are very good compared to netbeans and ruby.  And
> > Intellij is NOT worth a $500 license fee.
> >
> >
> >
> > Steve Holmes wrote:
> > >
> > > The support for Groovy and Grails in Intellij Idea should at least
>
> > > equally blow your mind.  My personal opinion is that it's
> > the best IDE
> > > for a Dynamic language ever created and just getting
> > better.  Also, it
> > > makes it almost completely seamless working with a mixed
> > Java/Groovy
> > > project.  In addition, the Netbeans people have been
> > putting resources
> > > into building a plugin although I didn't find it to be
> > anywhere near
> > > the capabilities of intellij yet.  Eclipse has a plugin with some
>
> > > decent capabilities but it's a bit buggy.  But if you really want
> a
> > > good IDE there is no beating Intellij.
> > >
> > >
> > > mnwicket wrote:
> > >>
> > >> So is anyone working on better IDE support for grails?  I
> > just took a
> > >> look at ruby on rails through netbeans and was quite blown away
> at
> > >> how nice it was to do development with juby.
> > >>
> > >> Would love to see something similar for grails...and would love
> to
> > >> help development if someone is already working on it.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> > http://www.nabble.com/IDE-Support-tp16850721p16851539.html
> > Sent from the grails - dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
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On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Alex Shneyderman
<a.shneyderman@...> wrote:
> >  IntelliJ support for Groovy and Grails not good? Are you kidding me?
>
>  Oh, common !!!! Don't let me started:
>
>  - GSP support sucks (where is autocomplete for tags?) - text
>  highlighting is not much of a support nowadays.

There is auto completion for tags in the latest 1.5 release

>  - Domain object's auto-completion is non existent and so is most other
>  artifacts' autocompletion

True.

>  - Refactoring is almost non-existent.

Err? JetGroovy has the most complete refactoring support of any
dynamic language IDE I've seen. Rename, extract method/variable etc.
its all there and it works from Groovy->Java->Groovy

>
>  Not groovy/grails related but annoys the hell out of me:
>  - The IDEA's porject layout is the least intuitive ever - I would say
>  really stupid. I am still looking for ways to move thongs from source
>  folder to another source folder. (Just dragging does not work).

This is a matter of religion. To me when I move things i think of F6
in IntelliJ using the mouse is not my thing

>  - How do you create a linked folder in the project?

Why would you need this?

>  - It takes forever to figure out how to check things into SVN.

Intellij's version control support puts pretty much every other IDEs
to shame. I'm still astounded at how poor the Eclipse SVN plugins are

>  - Copy/Paste between idea and OS file does not work.

Depends how you work with a project, but I rarely need this feature

Cheers

>
>  ....
>
>  The list of irritations goes on. I am not sure why all of you IDEA
>  lovers out there think it is the best IDE ... I think it sucks big
>  time.
>
>  IDEA is the best we got - it does not mean it is any good.
>
>
>
>  >  I know that you state that in your opinion it is not good *compared* to
>  >  netbeans and ruby, what are you missing then in IntelliJ.
>  >  Please give some aruguments and maybe the good folks at IDEA will pick it up
>  >  and add it to the plugin.
>
>  Alex.
>
>
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