I love the "cloud," but...

[pauric]

Collective pain quantified...

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_docs_is_down.php

That all said, if you were to add up the collective time lost due to
Word fubar'ing your work.. g'docs is still extremely reliable.

/pauric


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... when Google Docs goes down, you can almost hear the collective  
moan around the world.


-- Kim

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[Danny Hope-2]

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Kim Bieler <kimbieler@...> wrote:
> ... when Google Docs goes down, you can almost hear the collective moan
> around the world.

Nearly forgot, this is my response to your point:

http://yandleblog.com/2008/07/trusting-cloud.html

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[Sachendra Yadav]

Down times of Amazon and Google's cloud computing platforms have been
an issue lately, but I believe the benefits far outweigh the
disadvantages. Although you're looking at Google docs, please allow me
to steer the discussion away and look at the bigger picture for a
second, the best thing cloud computing offers is "power to the
people", it lowers the entry barrier for start-ups leaving the
innovators to do what they do best... innovate, instead of worrying
about infrastructure issues. Imagine how better off Twitter would have
been if they didn't have to worry about down time and instead invested
their energies in bettering the twitter user experience.

I've covered the benefits of cloud computing to application developers
in my blog
http://sachendra.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/cloud-computing-offers-power-to-the-people/

Sachendra



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[Steve Baty]

Cloud computing raises some interesting issues for corporate governance that
I don't believe have, yet, been well explored. Although I agree to a great
number of benefits - particularly for smaller enterprises - at a large-scale
enterprise level, and in organizations where the availability of operational
infrastructure is highly critical, cloud computing will be used very
tactically in the near term. The main issues I see revolve around risk
assessment and management, and again, I don't mean to suggest a raft of
negatives: just that the ways in which an organization demonstrates to its
shareholders that the appropriate strategies for risk mitigation are in
place have not yet been crystallized.

Regards
Steve

2008/7/25 Sachendra Yadav <sachendra@...>:

> Down times of Amazon and Google's cloud computing platforms have been
> an issue lately, but I believe the benefits far outweigh the
> disadvantages. Although you're looking at Google docs, please allow me
> to steer the discussion away and look at the bigger picture for a
> second, the best thing cloud computing offers is "power to the
> people", it lowers the entry barrier for start-ups leaving the
> innovators to do what they do best... innovate, instead of worrying
> about infrastructure issues. Imagine how better off Twitter would have
> been if they didn't have to worry about down time and instead invested
> their energies in bettering the twitter user experience.
>
> I've covered the benefits of cloud computing to application developers
> in my blog
>
> http://sachendra.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/cloud-computing-offers-power-to-the-people/
>
> Sachendra
>
>

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[Danny Hope-2]

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Sachendra Yadav <sachendra@...>wrote:

> Down times of Amazon and Google's cloud computing platforms have been
> an issue lately, but I believe the benefits far outweigh the
> disadvantages.


We gain much in the long run from a risk-benefit analysis.

It's important to apply pressure to system vendors to adopt open standards
so that we can create a distributed, more stable overall system.

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[Daniel Szuc]

Keep a copy locally and a copy on the cloud :) Google Gears has the
right idea ...

rgds,
Dan


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[Kim Bieler-2]

Actually, speaking of keeping backups, is there any consensus on what  
business risks are involved with cloud computing? I'm looking at  
Mingle as a project management tool and wondering what happens if they  
go under in two years. Is it comparable to the risks involved in any  
technology, where you assume you'll have to upgrade periodically, or  
abandon old technology in favor of the new hotness?


-- Kim

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[Steve Baty]

Kim,

I'd categorise the risks in terms of:
* what impact would an outage - temporary or permanent - have on your
current operations - business continuity, service levels, brand perception,
productivity, cost-benefits.
* what impact would a loss of historical data have on your business -
reporting, intelligence, knowledge management;
* who owns the data stored on the external systems - intellectual property,
copyright.

I think that covers it.

Steve
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