Harmony at Mackey's Marina

[Joe Babb]

Stan and his crew do a nice job, don't they?
Joe
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[Tootle]

Joe,

Are you trying to send Stan on an ego trip?  If you send too much praise his way, he will think his liberal politics are correct.  He fails to stop and understand that small businesses like his will have to supply his workers required benefits under socialism espoused by the current national Democrats.  The National Democrats have tried to get rid of the minimum number of workers for businesses many times in the past.  Their objective is one employee and you must have medical insurance, retirement, paid vacations, family leave plans, etc., etc.

Imagine a recycled Rhodes 22 starting at $99,000 to pay for those required benefits to employees for General Boats to stay in business.

The socialist on this forum have even seduced one union member into believing that compulsory government bargaining is the same as collective bargaining by employees.  Socialism is made to sound good in the media, but when did the Soviet Union have a successful five year plan?

How many on this forum have been to a former Soviet Block country and wanted those results?  

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA
“Socialism [is] where one person is forced to take care of another. There is no moral argument that justifies using the coercive powers of government to force one person to bear the expense of taking care of another.”  Walter Williams



Stan and his crew do a nice job, don't they?
Joe

[R22MikeW]

Hey Ed (and Stan),

"Their objective is one employee and you must have medical insurance,
retirement, paid vacations, family leave plans, etc., etc."

Not bad Stan.  Just think, you and Rose are the only employees and you will
have fully paid vacations!!  Tell me more, I want a piece of that pie!
Sounds like a great idea!!  Ed and his friends are paying.

Mike
s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
       Nissequogue River, NY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tootle" <ekroposki@...>Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:28 AM

>
> Joe,
>
> Are you trying to send Stan on an ego trip?  If you send too much praise
> his
> way, he will think his liberal politics are correct.  He fails to stop and
> understand that small businesses like his will have to supply his workers
> required benefits under socialism espoused by the current national
> Democrats.  The National Democrats have tried to get rid of the minimum
> number of workers for businesses many times in the past.  Their objective
> is
> one employee and you must have medical insurance, retirement, paid
> vacations, family leave plans, etc., etc.
>
> Imagine a recycled Rhodes 22 starting at $99,000 to pay for those required
> benefits to employees for General Boats to stay in business.
>
> The socialist on this forum have even seduced one union member into
> believing that compulsory government bargaining is the same as collective
> bargaining by employees.  Socialism is made to sound good in the media,
> but
> when did the Soviet Union have a successful five year plan?
>
> How many on this forum have been to a former Soviet Block country and
> wanted
> those results?
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
> “Socialism [is] where one person is forced to take care of another. There
> is
> no moral argument that justifies using the coercive powers of government
> to
> force one person to bear the expense of taking care of another.”  Walter
> Williams
>
>
>
> Stan and his crew do a nice job, don't they?
> Joe
>
> --
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[Brad Haslett-2]

Mike,

And wait, it gets better.  If the Dems get their "no vote" rule for
collective bargaining - just a majority collection of right-to-act cards
(and I'm a former union organizer), oh what fun it will be to shave in the
morning.

Self - "I demand a raise!"

Other self - "We can't afford a raise".

Self - "Then I'm going on strike!"

Other self - "Go ahead, I'll replace you!"

That "free" medical coverage better cover psychological counseling!

Brad

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner@...>
wrote:

> Hey Ed (and Stan),
>
> "Their objective is one employee and you must have medical insurance,
> retirement, paid vacations, family leave plans, etc., etc."
>
> Not bad Stan.  Just think, you and Rose are the only employees and you will
> have fully paid vacations!!  Tell me more, I want a piece of that pie!
> Sounds like a great idea!!  Ed and his friends are paying.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
>       Nissequogue River, NY
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tootle" <ekroposki@...>Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:28 AM
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > Are you trying to send Stan on an ego trip?  If you send too much praise
> > his
> > way, he will think his liberal politics are correct.  He fails to stop
> and
> > understand that small businesses like his will have to supply his workers
> > required benefits under socialism espoused by the current national
> > Democrats.  The National Democrats have tried to get rid of the minimum
> > number of workers for businesses many times in the past.  Their objective
> > is
> > one employee and you must have medical insurance, retirement, paid
> > vacations, family leave plans, etc., etc.
> >
> > Imagine a recycled Rhodes 22 starting at $99,000 to pay for those
> required
> > benefits to employees for General Boats to stay in business.
> >
> > The socialist on this forum have even seduced one union member into
> > believing that compulsory government bargaining is the same as collective
> > bargaining by employees.  Socialism is made to sound good in the media,
> > but
> > when did the Soviet Union have a successful five year plan?
> >
> > How many on this forum have been to a former Soviet Block country and
> > wanted
> > those results?
> >
> > Ed K
> > Greenville, SC, USA
> > "Socialism [is] where one person is forced to take care of another. There
> > is
> > no moral argument that justifies using the coercive powers of government
> > to
> > force one person to bear the expense of taking care of another."  Walter
> > Williams
> >
> >
> >
> > Stan and his crew do a nice job, don't they?
> > Joe
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
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[stanleyl]

hard to believe that after all the times the Eds have tried their trickle
down routine there are still a few holdouts who insist on and swearing by
and dying with its bottom line results.    I suppose it is because they have
been in control of the congress and the administration and can't blame
anyone else, that they just can't fess up to being wrong.

OK, have fun with the above if you want but it is May day for me so won't be
able to join you all for awhile.

ss


  ----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner@...>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@...>
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Harmony at Mackey's Marina and amongalligators?
Now Political - Big Al Delete

> Hey Ed (and Stan),
>
> "Their objective is one employee and you must have medical insurance,
> retirement, paid vacations, family leave plans, etc., etc."
>
> Not bad Stan.  Just think, you and Rose are the only employees and you
> will
> have fully paid vacations!!  Tell me more, I want a piece of that pie!
> Sounds like a great idea!!  Ed and his friends are paying.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
>       Nissequogue River, NY
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tootle" <ekroposki@...>Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:28 AM
>>
>> Joe,
>>
>> Are you trying to send Stan on an ego trip?  If you send too much praise
>> his
>> way, he will think his liberal politics are correct.  He fails to stop
>> and
>> understand that small businesses like his will have to supply his workers
>> required benefits under socialism espoused by the current national
>> Democrats.  The National Democrats have tried to get rid of the minimum
>> number of workers for businesses many times in the past.  Their objective
>> is
>> one employee and you must have medical insurance, retirement, paid
>> vacations, family leave plans, etc., etc.
>>
>> Imagine a recycled Rhodes 22 starting at $99,000 to pay for those
>> required
>> benefits to employees for General Boats to stay in business.
>>
>> The socialist on this forum have even seduced one union member into
>> believing that compulsory government bargaining is the same as collective
>> bargaining by employees.  Socialism is made to sound good in the media,
>> but
>> when did the Soviet Union have a successful five year plan?
>>
>> How many on this forum have been to a former Soviet Block country and
>> wanted
>> those results?
>>
>> Ed K
>> Greenville, SC, USA
>> “Socialism [is] where one person is forced to take care of another. There
>> is
>> no moral argument that justifies using the coercive powers of government
>> to
>> force one person to bear the expense of taking care of another.”  Walter
>> Williams
>>
>>
>>
>> Stan and his crew do a nice job, don't they?
>> Joe
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/Harmony-at-Mackey%27s-Marina-tp17251619p17252106.html
>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
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[John Shulick]

Joe,

Are you trying to send Stan on an ego trip?  If you send too much praise his way, he will think his liberal politics are correct.  He fails to stop and understand that small businesses like his will have to supply his workers required benefits under socialism espoused by the current national Democrats.  The National Democrats have tried to get rid of the minimum number of workers for businesses many times in the past.  Their objective is one employee and you must have medical insurance, retirement, paid vacations, family leave plans, etc., etc.

Imagine a recycled Rhodes 22 starting at $99,000 to pay for those required benefits to employees for General Boats to stay in business.

The socialist on this forum have even seduced one union member into believing that compulsory government bargaining is the same as collective bargaining by employees.  Socialism is made to sound good in the media, but when did the Soviet Union have a successful five year plan?

How many on this forum have been to a former Soviet Block country and wanted those results?  

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA
“Socialism [is] where one person is forced to take care of another. There is no moral argument that justifies using the coercive powers of government to force one person to bear the expense of taking care of another.”  Walter Williams

Joe Babb wrote:

Stan and his crew do a nice job, don't they?
Joe

 Dear Mr. Ed,
   
         While you may be correct with your quote about Socialism. it might also be said one man taking care of another is the Christian thing to do and all I hear on the airwaves is how much of a Christian nation this is. If the price of a recycled rhodes has to rise to $99,000 so the employees have a decent standard of living then I suppose you will either have to ask your employer for a raise or do the work yourself. I have worked for small (<5 employees) businesses for most of my life and believe me there is no negotiating. If you want to keep your job, you shut your yap and take what you're offered. As the song goes "I'm taking what there givin cause I'm workin for a living".

John Shulick
        currently restoring his 71 rhodes  "Delilah"  

[Tootle]

Joe,

Keep us informed about your Rhodes (?) project.  This forum always enjoys a progress report on project boats.  I encourage you to learn how to use the archives and in particular look to the work done by a now famous and published sailboat rebuilder, Lou Rosenberg of Brooklyn, New York.

You stated that you are "currently restoring his 71 Rhodes, "Delilah".  Is this a Rhodes 22 or a Sailmaster 22?  Only one Stanley Spitzer can explain the difference.  However, there once was a Sailmaster 22 about the year of your boat for sale on eBay.  One Commodore Spitzer owned up to involvement, hum.

Now a political reply:  Joe said, "it might also be said one man taking care of another is the Christian thing to do and all I hear on the airwaves is how much of a Christian nation this is."  Please point out to me the words of the United States Constitution that direct the government to do that.  Where does it say steal from all to benefit a special class.  You are putting religious objectives for the government to accomplish.  

Since you brought up the religious aspect of this question, are you familiar with:  "VII. Thou shalt not steal, Exodus 20:1-17?"  Where is the religious directive to steal from others to provide for charitable purposes using the coercive power of a government?

And to whom was this religious command given?  What religion was he?  And now look at the background of one of the most ardent supporters of this socialist dogma on this forum.  It is important to know history, where we come from and how we got here, before advocating stealing a future from our progeny.

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA
“Freedom is Not Free”

Tootle wrote:

Joe,

Are you trying to send Stan on an ego trip?  If you send too much praise his way, he will think his liberal politics are correct.  He fails to stop and understand that small businesses like his will have to supply his workers required benefits under socialism espoused by the current national Democrats.  The National Democrats have tried to get rid of the minimum number of workers for businesses many times in the past.  Their objective is one employee and you must have medical insurance, retirement, paid vacations, family leave plans, etc., etc.

Imagine a recycled Rhodes 22 starting at $99,000 to pay for those required benefits to employees for General Boats to stay in business.

The socialist on this forum have even seduced one union member into believing that compulsory government bargaining is the same as collective bargaining by employees.  Socialism is made to sound good in the media, but when did the Soviet Union have a successful five year plan?

How many on this forum have been to a former Soviet Block country and wanted those results?  

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA
“Socialism [is] where one person is forced to take care of another. There is no moral argument that justifies using the coercive powers of government to force one person to bear the expense of taking care of another.”  Walter Williams

Joe Babb wrote:

Stan and his crew do a nice job, don't they?
Joe

 Dear Mr. Ed,
   
         While you may be correct with your quote about Socialism. it might also be said one man taking care of another is the Christian thing to do and all I hear on the airwaves is how much of a Christian nation this is. If the price of a recycled rhodes has to rise to $99,000 so the employees have a decent standard of living then I suppose you will either have to ask your employer for a raise or do the work yourself. I have worked for small (<5 employees) businesses for most of my life and believe me there is no negotiating. If you want to keep your job, you shut your yap and take what you're offered. As the song goes "I'm taking what there givin cause I'm workin for a living".

John Shulick
        currently restoring his 71 rhodes  "Delilah"  

[Rik Sandberg-2]

You go Ed,


"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution
which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence,
the money of their constituents...."  - James Madison

Rik

"There's a reason why bankers drive Cadillacs and the rest of us drive Chevies. Bankers collect interest,... The rest of us pay it" .... Rik Sandberg



Tootle wrote:

> Joe,
>
> Keep us informed about your Rhodes (?) project.  This forum always enjoys a
> progress report on project boats.  I encourage you to learn how to use the
> archives and in particular look to the work done by a now famous and
> published sailboat rebuilder, Lou Rosenberg of Brooklyn, New York.
>
> You stated that you are "currently restoring his 71 Rhodes, "Delilah".  Is
> this a Rhodes 22 or a Sailmaster 22?  Only one Stanley Spitzer can explain
> the difference.  However, there once was a Sailmaster 22 about the year of
> your boat for sale on eBay.  One Commodore Spitzer owned up to involvement,
> hum.
>
> Now a political reply:  Joe said, "it might also be said one man taking care
> of another is the Christian thing to do and all I hear on the airwaves is
> how much of a Christian nation this is."  Please point out to me the words
> of the United States Constitution that direct the government to do that.
> Where does it say steal from all to benefit a special class.  You are
> putting religious objectives for the government to accomplish.  
>
> Since you brought up the religious aspect of this question, are you familiar
> with:  "VII. Thou shalt not steal, Exodus 20:1-17?"  Where is the religious
> directive to steal from others to provide for charitable purposes using the
> coercive power of a government?
>
> And to whom was this religious command given?  What religion was he?  And
> now look at the background of one of the most ardent supporters of this
> socialist dogma on this forum.  It is important to know history, where we
> come from and how we got here, before advocating stealing a future from our
> progeny.
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
> “Freedom is Not Free”
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tootle wrote:
>  
>> Joe,
>>
>> Are you trying to send Stan on an ego trip?  If you send too much praise
>> his way, he will think his liberal politics are correct.  He fails to stop
>> and understand that small businesses like his will have to supply his
>> workers required benefits under socialism espoused by the current national
>> Democrats.  The National Democrats have tried to get rid of the minimum
>> number of workers for businesses many times in the past.  Their objective
>> is one employee and you must have medical insurance, retirement, paid
>> vacations, family leave plans, etc., etc.
>>
>> Imagine a recycled Rhodes 22 starting at $99,000 to pay for those required
>> benefits to employees for General Boats to stay in business.
>>
>> The socialist on this forum have even seduced one union member into
>> believing that compulsory government bargaining is the same as collective
>> bargaining by employees.  Socialism is made to sound good in the media,
>> but when did the Soviet Union have a successful five year plan?
>>
>> How many on this forum have been to a former Soviet Block country and
>> wanted those results?  
>>
>> Ed K
>> Greenville, SC, USA
>> “Socialism [is] where one person is forced to take care of another. There
>> is no moral argument that justifies using the coercive powers of
>> government to force one person to bear the expense of taking care of
>> another.”  Walter Williams
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe Babb wrote:
>>    
>>> Stan and his crew do a nice job, don't they?
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>  Dear Mr. Ed,
>>    
>>          While you may be correct with your quote about Socialism. it
>> might also be said one man taking care of another is the Christian thing
>> to do and all I hear on the airwaves is how much of a Christian nation
>> this is. If the price of a recycled rhodes has to rise to $99,000 so the
>> employees have a decent standard of living then I suppose you will either
>> have to ask your employer for a raise or do the work yourself. I have
>> worked for small (<5 employees) businesses for most of my life and believe
>> me there is no negotiating. If you want to keep your job, you shut your
>> yap and take what you're offered. As the song goes "I'm taking what there
>> givin cause I'm workin for a living".
>>
>> John Shulick
>>         currently restoring his 71 rhodes  "Delilah"  
>>
>>    
>
>  

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[John Shulick]

Hi Ed
    I did purchase my boat on E-bay Around the 15th of October 2007. I don't believe it to be a Sailmaster 22 but rather a Rhodes continental. The Hin# on the previous owners registration card reads
GBX 00101 but there is no plate on the hull.  It is my understanding that boats built prior to 1972 were not required to have Hin plates. I know it wasn't removed because I stripped the entire hull from the black bumper down and sanded the entire thing with an orbital sander using 80 grit paper until I reached the gelcoat and didn't find any filled holes to indicate its removal. Then I filled all imperfections with marine- tex epoxy putty sanded that out and then augmented the gelcoat with 2 coats of E-2000 barrier coat above the plimsol line followed by 2 coats of primer and 3 coats of brightside polyurethane. Below the line I used 5 coats of E-2000 followed by 4 coats of VC Performance Epoxy. Enclosed are before and after picts. I'm finishing repairs on the centerboard and centerboard trunk as per the instructions I found posted on the rhodes site (thanks to everyone involved in that list)
and hope to be sailing by Memorial day.



Now about the other matter. I don't believe the discussion is about politics bit rather ethics. You're quoting from the Old Testament (laws god gave to Moses). My comment is from the New Testament (Christ's additions to these laws) "What so ever you do to the least of my brothers that you do unto me." Rather than "thou shall not steal" perhaps you should use the argument "I am not my brothers
keeper".

JOHN Shulick
      Pgh. Pa
      "in Amerika freedom is a function of income, you're as free as you can afford to be" J. Shulick
      "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" Thomas Jefferson

[John Shulick]

<
"There's a reason why bankers drive Cadillacs and the rest of us drive Chevies. Bankers collect interest,... The rest of us pay it" .... Rik Sandberg

"all through this world I've traveled I've met lots of funny men some rob you with a six gun others
 with a fountain pen and through this world I've rambled and through this world I've roamed you never seen an outlaw drive a family from there home."  Arlo Guthrie.  A fine comment giving the credit crisis we face as a nation.
                          JOHN Shulick
                               Pgh. Pa.

[Chris Geankoplis]

Hey John,
                Nice Job.  I was just about to start the same  project as
far as the LPU finish goes.  A couple of questions:  How did you apply the
paint topsides?  What was the temperature?  Did you do it out in the open or
in an enclosed paced.  What was the source? Any comments or pointers would
be appreciated.
POLITICAL FOLLOWS:
Oh, and by the way you are not a lone voice in the wilderness, as I hope you
surmised. It is an ethical call and absolute pronouncements on the sanctaty
of property verses the sanctaty of life and health is a moral and ethical
call.  The right to be rich, does it trump the right to life, or health?
Again absolute pronouncements don't get us to a working solution.  Keep the
faith, only about 8 more months of this and then the scoundrells will be
turned out.

Chris G
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From: "John Shulick" <jsbudda@...>
To: <rhodes22-list@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] let the discussion continue 1st. boat 2nd.
Politics(always 2nd to boat)


>
> Hi Ed
>     I did purchase my boat on E-bay Around the 15th of October 2007. I
don't
> believe it to be a Sailmaster 22 but rather a Rhodes continental. The Hin#
> on the previous owners registration card reads
> GBX 00101 but there is no plate on the hull.  It is my understanding that
> boats built prior to 1972 were not required to have Hin plates. I know it
> wasn't removed because I stripped the entire hull from the black bumper
down
> and sanded the entire thing with an orbital sander using 80 grit paper
until
> I reached the gelcoat and didn't find any filled holes to indicate its
> removal. Then I filled all imperfections with marine- tex epoxy putty
sanded
> that out and then augmented the gelcoat with 2 coats of E-2000 barrier
coat
> above the plimsol line followed by 2 coats of primer and 3 coats of
> brightside polyurethane. Below the line I used 5 coats of E-2000 followed
by
> 4 coats of VC Performance Epoxy. Enclosed are before and after picts. I'm
> finishing repairs on the centerboard and centerboard trunk as per the
> instructions I found posted on the rhodes site (thanks to everyone
involved
> in that list)
> and hope to be sailing by Memorial day.
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p17297889/johns%2B2007%2Bhome%2Bpics-060.jpg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p17297889/DSCF0106_1.jpg
>
> Now about the other matter. I don't believe the discussion is about
politics
> bit rather ethics. You're quoting from the Old Testament (laws god gave to
> Moses). My comment is from the New Testament (Christ's additions to these
> laws) "What so ever you do to the least of my brothers that you do unto
me."
> Rather than "thou shall not steal" perhaps you should use the argument "I
am
> not my brothers
> keeper".
>
> JOHN Shulick
>       Pgh. Pa
>       "in Amerika freedom is a function of income, you're as free as you
can
> afford to be" J. Shulick
>       "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" Thomas Jefferson
>
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[Chris Geankoplis]

Thanks John!
Chris G
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] for your consideration

>
>
> <
> "There's a reason why bankers drive Cadillacs and the rest of us drive
> Chevies. Bankers collect interest,... The rest of us pay it" .... Rik
> Sandberg
>
> "all through this world I've traveled I've met lots of funny men some rob
> you with a six gun others
>  with a fountain pen and through this world I've rambled and through this
> world I've roamed you never seen an outlaw drive a family from there

home."
> Arlo Guthrie.  A fine comment giving the credit crisis we face as a
nation.
>                           JOHN Shulick
>                                Pgh. Pa.
>
>
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[Brad Haslett-2]

Credit crisis?  What credit crisis? Some people got greedy and thought they
could make some money, bullshitted the mortgage company and themselves about
what they could afford. The mortgage companies thought they could bullshit
someone else and package the loans, and like all ponzi schemes, it finally
bit everyone in the ass.  But a crisis?  Give me a friggin break.  When your
home gets knocked down by a hurricane or an earthquake, that's a crisis.
When you lose it to stupidity, that's an education.  You can't pass laws
against stupidity or all of Congress would be out of a job. This so-called
"credit crisis" is almost over, first time homebuyers now have a shot at
their own piece of the American Dream, and frugal homewoners (like myself)
never knew the difference. John, if you don't like banks, don't do business
with them.  When I deposit money in one, I expect them to be mean as hell
about collecting the interest so I get my money back.  If you don't like the
system, don't participate.  No one's holding a gun to your head!

Brad

On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 11:56 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda@...> wrote:

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> "There's a reason why bankers drive Cadillacs and the rest of us drive
> Chevies. Bankers collect interest,... The rest of us pay it" .... Rik
> Sandberg
>
> "all through this world I've traveled I've met lots of funny men some rob
> you with a six gun others
>  with a fountain pen and through this world I've rambled and through this
> world I've roamed you never seen an outlaw drive a family from there home."
> Arlo Guthrie.  A fine comment giving the credit crisis we face as a nation.
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[Rik Sandberg-2]

John,

Glad you liked my quote, but you may have misinterpreted the message.


Actually, it is not supposed to be a slam on bankers as much as a wakeup
call to folks who can't seem to buy anything without paying for it on
time + interest. The bottom line cost seems to never be considered
anymore, only the monthly payment. Compound interest is a beautiful
thing when it's working in your favor, but a tough adversary when it's
working against you.

One's "home" isn't HIS home until he's paid for it.

Take good care,
Rik

"Is this gonna' put me in a bad mood? 'Cause I'm not usually this pleasant".... Rik Sandberg



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>> Chevies. Bankers collect interest,... The rest of us pay it" .... Rik
>> Sandberg
>>
>> "all through this world I've traveled I've met lots of funny men some rob
>> you with a six gun others
>>  with a fountain pen and through this world I've rambled and through this
>> world I've roamed you never seen an outlaw drive a family from there home.

>> "Arlo Guthrie.  A fine comment giving the credit crisis we face as a
>>    
> nation.
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[Ronald Lipton]

John,

   Arlo's dad Woody wrote the words.  Where do you sail around
Pittsburgh?  We
lived there for 10 years and loved the city and the area.

Ron

John Shulick wrote:

> <
> "There's a reason why bankers drive Cadillacs and the rest of us drive
> Chevies. Bankers collect interest,... The rest of us pay it" .... Rik
> Sandberg
>
> "all through this world I've traveled I've met lots of funny men some rob
> you with a six gun others
>  with a fountain pen and through this world I've rambled and through this
> world I've roamed you never seen an outlaw drive a family from there home."
> Arlo Guthrie.  A fine comment giving the credit crisis we face as a nation.
>                           JOHN Shulick
>                                Pgh. Pa.
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