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Good Grief to Grids

by Aaron Elmquist :: Rate this Message:

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Okay, I'm getting really cheesed with the grids on Inkscape.  Why does the grid spacing adjust when I zoom?  And, why is it not at least proportional to the page/objects I'm working on?  I cold live with it if it adjusted in constant multiples, but that doesn't seem to be the case. 

Thanks for the help,

Aaron

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Re: Good Grief to Grids

by Hystrix :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Aaron Elmquist <ironranger@...> wrote:
> Okay, I'm getting really cheesed with the grids on Inkscape.  Why does the
> grid spacing adjust when I zoom?  And, why is it not at least proportional
> to the page/objects I'm working on?  I cold live with it if it adjusted in
> constant multiples, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
>
> Thanks for the help,
>
> Aaron
>
Just in case, did you notice that when you zoom out some lines are not
shown, didn't you? In my case, when I go from 566% to 800% zoom level
I see a lot more lines on the grid (using the default rectangular
grid). Apart from that I don't see any confusing behavior.

Hystrix

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Re: Good Grief to Grids

by Aaron Elmquist :: Rate this Message:

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I guess it makes some sense to stop displaying some grid lines when zoomed out at a high level.  No one wants to look at a solid grid. 

But, when I go from 100% to 70% zoom and my grid goes from every 10 pixels to every 50 I get a little irked.  I also think this is rightfully so. 

Besides, the grid does have the option for me to choose how to display minor and major grid lines.  If I had to I could have minor grid lines set to zero alpha and major grids to a specific color.  That way if I'm working on a large piece and I zoom out I could easily make the grid as loose or tight looking as I wanted by adjusting the how many lines there are between a major grid line. 

Honestly I'm having a hard time getting some of the grids to do specifically what I want to set up a Celtic Key Patterns and Knots. 

I guess I'm just a control freak and will have to resort to creating grids more suited to my work via the cloned tile option. 

Thanks for the reply. 

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Hystrix <ego@...> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Aaron Elmquist <ironranger@...> wrote:
> Okay, I'm getting really cheesed with the grids on Inkscape.  Why does the
> grid spacing adjust when I zoom?  And, why is it not at least proportional
> to the page/objects I'm working on?  I cold live with it if it adjusted in
> constant multiples, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
>
> Thanks for the help,
>
> Aaron
>
Just in case, did you notice that when you zoom out some lines are not
shown, didn't you? In my case, when I go from 566% to 800% zoom level
I see a lot more lines on the grid (using the default rectangular
grid). Apart from that I don't see any confusing behavior.

Hystrix

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Re: Good Grief to Grids

by Francois du Toit-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Someone is working on it ;)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/172115

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Re: Good Grief to Grids

by Aaron Elmquist :: Rate this Message:

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Thanks.  I forget about the bug reports. 

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Francois du Toit <fpdutoit.lists@...> wrote:
Someone is working on it ;)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/172115

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Re: Good Grief to Grids

by bulia byak :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Aaron Elmquist <ironranger@...> wrote:
> But, when I go from 100% to 70% zoom and my grid goes from every 10 pixels
> to every 50 I get a little irked.  I also think this is rightfully so.

One one hand, we have a developer who wrote this code. When faced with
lots of choices at every step - how often to suppress lines on zoom
out, how close to allow lines, what colors, how to treat major/minor
etc - he most often goes with a gut feeling. "Looks about right."
"That would be sensible I think." He does some testing but usually not
much.

And on the other hand, we have users like you who spend a lot of time
with the feature and who would like to change a lot of the numbers and
behavior quirks.

How can these users get what they want? Filing detailed bugs with test
cases and use cases is good. But if you have even a very superficial
knowledge of programming, in many cases it would be easier and more
rewarding to just patch the source. For example all the logic of
disappearing lines on zoomout is in CanvasXYGrid::Update in the file
src/display/canvas-grid.cpp. It's easy to understand this little
function just by what you know from using the program, and it has
comments on why it does it the way it does, and it's very easy to
adjust the constants, recompile, and see if it is better, as many
times as needed. Then, just submit a patch. This may sound
intimidating at first, but it's not difficult and is quite fun.

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