Getting cfimage to read .eps file

[Weidler, Wilfred C.]

Does anyone know how to get CF to support reading a .eps file with <cfimage>?

I ran the function "GetReadableImageFormats()" on my server to what the server could read and .eps file format was not listed.

This is what my server can read:  BMP,GIF,JFIF,JPEG,JPEG 2000,JPEG-LOSSLESS,JPEG-LS,JPEG2000,JPG,PNG,PNM,RAW,TIF,TIFF,WBMP

My Sever is Windows 2003 R2 running CF 8,0,1,195765 Enterprise.

TIA

Chuck

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[Dave Lyons-2]

Sure.. It is very very easy.
1. Convert the eps file to one of the formats that is supported.
2. upload it

;)~

> Does anyone know how to get CF to support reading a .eps file with
> <cfimage>?
>
> I ran the function "GetReadableImageFormats()" on my server to what
> the server could read and .eps file format was not listed.
>
> This is what my server can read:  BMP,GIF,JFIF,JPEG,JPEG 2000,
> JPEG-LOSSLESS,JPEG-LS,JPEG2000,JPG,PNG,PNM,RAW,TIF,TIFF,WBMP
>
> My Sever is Windows 2003 R2 running CF 8,0,1,195765 Enterprise.
>
> TIA
>
> Chuck

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[Chuck Weidler-2]

@Dave - That is an option to not allow our users upload that format, but the
my Client would like to allow the .eps format to be uploaded.  If that
format is allowed to be uploaded, I need to be able to pull the information
of the file out, like height, width, etc...

So I'm just fishing to see anyone has use the <cfimage> tag to pull info on
a .eps file.  If so, how did they do it.

;)



-----Original Message-----
From: Dave l [mailto:cflist@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:41 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: Getting cfimage to read .eps file

Sure.. It is very very easy.
1. Convert the eps file to one of the formats that is supported.
2. upload it

;)~



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[Mark Mandel]

There has to be a Java lib that will do it...

Mark

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Chuck Weidler <chuck@...> wrote:

> @Dave - That is an option to not allow our users upload that format, but the
> my Client would like to allow the .eps format to be uploaded.  If that
> format is allowed to be uploaded, I need to be able to pull the information
> of the file out, like height, width, etc...
>
> So I'm just fishing to see anyone has use the <cfimage> tag to pull info on
> a .eps file.  If so, how did they do it.
>
> ;)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave l [mailto:cflist@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:41 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: Getting cfimage to read .eps file
>
> Sure.. It is very very easy.
> 1. Convert the eps file to one of the formats that is supported.
> 2. upload it
>
> ;)~
>
>
>
>

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[Dave Lyons-2]

So I'm just fishing to see anyone has use the <cfimage> tag to pull info on
>a .eps file

>@Dave - That is an option to not allow our users upload that format, but the
>my Client would like to allow the .eps format to be uploaded.  If that
>format is allowed to be uploaded, I need to be able to pull the information
>of the file out, like height, width, etc...
>
>So I'm just fishing to see anyone has use the <cfimage> tag to pull info on
>a .eps file.  If so, how did they do it.
>
>;)
>
>
>
>Sure.. It is very very easy.
>1. Convert the eps file to one of the formats that is supported.
>2. upload it
>
>;)~

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[Dave Lyons-2]

maybe.. but cfimage won't


>There has to be a Java lib that will do it...
>
>Mark
>
>On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Chuck Weidler <chuck@...> wrote:
>>

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[Dave Lyons-2]

dammit wrote a long answer and it cut it off.

bottom line is this...
An eps file is not an image file, it's an encapsulated postscript file or something but it's technically not an image just like a pdf isn't an image or a psd isn't an image and ai isn't an image, they aren't supported types either.

If the file types isn't in the supported types then it isn't supported, it is pretty clear cut.

You can upload any type of file you want but cfimage isn't going to give you the results you want because the file type isn't supported. cffile can give you some of what you might need but cfimage won't.

>@Dave - That is an option to not allow our users upload that format, but the
>my Client would like to allow the .eps format to be uploaded.  If that
>format is allowed to be uploaded, I need to be able to pull the information
>of the file out, like height, width, etc...
>
>So I'm just fishing to see anyone has use the <cfimage> tag to pull info on
>a .eps file.  If so, how did they do it.
>
>;)
>
>
>
>Sure.. It is very very easy.
>1. Convert the eps file to one of the formats that is supported.
>2. upload it
>
>;)~

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[Ryan J. Heldt]

How about: http://www.jibble.org/epsgraphics/

*Ryan J. Heldt*, Senior Web Developer
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Mark Mandel wrote:

> There has to be a Java lib that will do it...
>
> Mark
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Chuck Weidler <chuck@...> wrote:
>  
>> @Dave - That is an option to not allow our users upload that format, but the
>> my Client would like to allow the .eps format to be uploaded.  If that
>> format is allowed to be uploaded, I need to be able to pull the information
>> of the file out, like height, width, etc...
>>
>> So I'm just fishing to see anyone has use the <cfimage> tag to pull info on
>> a .eps file.  If so, how did they do it.
>>
>> ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dave l [mailto:cflist@...]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:41 PM
>> To: cf-talk
>> Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: Getting cfimage to read .eps file
>>
>> Sure.. It is very very easy.
>> 1. Convert the eps file to one of the formats that is supported.
>> 2. upload it
>>
>> ;)~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>
>

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[coderWil]

I have been watching an I am curious.  I don't have a ton of experience with
the cfimage tag, just simple implementations, so maybe some of you might
know this.

In regards to this question, would it be possible to have cfimage change the
'image' type from .eps to .gif or .jpg?

If it is possible, then he could do a conversion and then read the converted
file for the required data.

Any thoughts?

William

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::-----Original Message-----
::From: Dave l [mailto:cflist@...]
::Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:18 PM
::To: cf-talk
::Subject: Re: : Re: Getting cfimage to read .eps file
::
::dammit wrote a long answer and it cut it off.
::
::bottom line is this...
::An eps file is not an image file, it's an encapsulated postscript file or
::something but it's technically not an image just like a pdf isn't an image
::or a psd isn't an image and ai isn't an image, they aren't supported types
::either.
::
::If the file types isn't in the supported types then it isn't supported, it
::is pretty clear cut.
::
::You can upload any type of file you want but cfimage isn't going to give
::you the results you want because the file type isn't supported. cffile can
::give you some of what you might need but cfimage won't.
::
::
::
::
::
::>@Dave - That is an option to not allow our users upload that format, but
::the
::>my Client would like to allow the .eps format to be uploaded.  If that
::>format is allowed to be uploaded, I need to be able to pull the
::information
::>of the file out, like height, width, etc...
::>
::>So I'm just fishing to see anyone has use the <cfimage> tag to pull info
::on
::>a .eps file.  If so, how did they do it.
::>
::>;)
::>
::>


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[Chuck Weidler-2]

@William - That is not possible because .eps files are not recognized as an
image.

@All Respondents - Thanks for everything.  I think my best course of action
is to explain to my Client about .eps files and have them make the decision
to not allow that file type to be uploaded for what I have to do with
uploaded images.

-----Original Message-----
From: William Seiter [mailto:william@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:16 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: : Re: Getting cfimage to read .eps file

I have been watching an I am curious.  I don't have a ton of experience with
the cfimage tag, just simple implementations, so maybe some of you might
know this.

In regards to this question, would it be possible to have cfimage change the
'image' type from .eps to .gif or .jpg?

If it is possible, then he could do a conversion and then read the converted
file for the required data.

Any thoughts?

William



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[Dave Lyons-2]

No

You guys need to understand that that cfimage is meant to work with images, hence the "image" part of the name and and eps IS NOT an image, so if it is not an image how can it read it? You'll have just as much luck uploading a zip file and trying to use cfimage to get it's info.

Unless you are saying to just physically change the the eps to an image file and the answer would still be no, changing the postfix doesn't change the file type. Try to use an eps in a reg html img tag and see if it displays on web... it won't because IT IS NOT an image format.

You know how on your car right by the gas cap it says "unleaded fuel only"?
So if the fuel is the format then they are telling you that it will only work with unleaded fuel. So would you hook up your garden hose and fill your tank with water and expect it run? After all they are both liquid but does that mean they are the same?

You could hook into command line and run it against a conversion program or like Mark said maybe a java class and return it but if you have a hard time understanding that if it isn't on the supported formats then it isn't going to be supported then I would assume you won't be doing any java programming.

>I have been watching an I am curious.  I don't have a ton of experience with
>the cfimage tag, just simple implementations, so maybe some of you might
>know this.
>
>In regards to this question, would it be possible to have cfimage change the
>'image' type from .eps to .gif or .jpg?
>
>If it is possible, then he could do a conversion and then read the converted
>file for the required data.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>William
>
>----------------------------------
>William Seiter
>IT Web Developer / Consultant
>
>Is your income limited by the red tape and paperwork?  Let SoftEx BackOffice
>help you.  They know how to take care of the 'busy work' of your contracts
>and let you focus on the 'WOW' factor.
>http://www.softexconsulting.com/softex_office.cfm
>
>::-----Original Message-----
>::
>::Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:18 PM
>::To: cf-talk
>::Subject: Re: : Re: Getting cfimage to read .eps file
>::
>::dammit wrote a long answer and it cut it off.
>::
>::bottom line is this...
>::An eps file is not an image file, it's an encapsulated postscript file or
>::something but it's technically not an image just like a pdf isn't an image
>::or a psd isn't an image and ai isn't an image, they aren't supported types
>::either.
>::
>::If the file types isn't in the supported types then it isn't supported, it
>::is pretty clear cut.
>::
>::You can upload any type of file you want but cfimage isn't going to give
>::you the results you want because the file type isn't supported. cffile can
>::give you some of what you might need but cfimage won't.
>::
>::
>::
>::
>::
>::>@Dave - That is an option to not allow our users upload that format, but
>::the
>::>my Client would like to allow the .eps format to be uploaded.  If that
>::>format is allowed to be uploaded, I need to be able to pull the
>::information
>::>of the file out, like height, width, etc...
>::>
>::>So I'm just fishing to see anyone has use the <cfimage> tag to pull info
>::on
>::>a .eps file.  If so, how did they do it.
>::>
>::>;)
>::>
>::>

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[coderWil]

<<Try to use an eps in a reg html img tag and see if it displays on web...
it won't because IT IS NOT an image format.>>
Ah, so eps is more like a 'psd' file rather than a 'png' file.

<< So would you hook up your garden hose and fill your tank with water and
expect it run?>>
That would be pretty cool though, wouldn't it?  I don't think that will be
too far off in the future...  maybe a few decades?

<< time understanding that if it isn't on the supported formats then it
isn't going to be supported then I would assume you won't be doing any java
..>>
Now don't be rude.  

Recently I was reading the blog of my webhost where they announced that they
would be supporting .dwt as a text/html delivered file.  They rationalized
that since it was possible to do it, that they would support the customer
who requested it.  Personally I prefer to teach the uninitiated rather than
divert the river for them, but its not my company or my call.  

I had thought that maybe 'eps' was a proprietary format similar to 'gif' is
(was?). Hence the reason why I requested more information on the topic.

After doing a (very) brief review of the google 'coldfusion convert .eps to
..jpg', it appears that there was a tag available in the cf5 - cf6 days that
was capable of doing the conversion:
CFXImage tag from Gafware

http://tinyurl.com/4e2zb4

----------------------------------
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::-----Original Message-----
::From: Dave l [mailto:cflist@...]
::Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:46 PM
::To: cf-talk
::Subject: Re: : Re: Getting cfimage to read .eps file
::
::No
::
::You guys need to understand that that cfimage is meant to work with
::images, hence the "image" part of the name and and eps IS NOT an image, so
::if it is not an image how can it read it? You'll have just as much luck
::uploading a zip file and trying to use cfimage to get it's info.
::
::Unless you are saying to just physically change the the eps to an image
::file and the answer would still be no, changing the postfix doesn't change
::the file type. Try to use an eps in a reg html img tag and see if it
::displays on web... it won't because IT IS NOT an image format.
::
::You know how on your car right by the gas cap it says "unleaded fuel
::only"?
::So if the fuel is the format then they are telling you that it will only
::work with unleaded fuel. So would you hook up your garden hose and fill
::your tank with water and expect it run? After all they are both liquid but
::does that mean they are the same?
::
::You could hook into command line and run it against a conversion program
::or like Mark said maybe a java class and return it but if you have a hard
::time understanding that if it isn't on the supported formats then it isn't
::going to be supported then I would assume you won't be doing any java
::programming.
::
::
::>I have been watching an I am curious.  I don't have a ton of experience
::with
::>the cfimage tag, just simple implementations, so maybe some of you might
::>know this.
::>
::>In regards to this question, would it be possible to have cfimage change
::the
::>'image' type from .eps to .gif or .jpg?
::>
::>If it is possible, then he could do a conversion and then read the
::converted
::>file for the required data.
::>
::>Any thoughts?
::>
::>William
::>
::>----------------------------------
::>William Seiter
::>IT Web Developer / Consultant
::>
::>Is your income limited by the red tape and paperwork?  Let SoftEx
::BackOffice
::>help you.  They know how to take care of the 'busy work' of your
::contracts
::>and let you focus on the 'WOW' factor.
::>http://www.softexconsulting.com/softex_office.cfm
::>
::>::-----Original Message-----
::>::
::>::Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:18 PM
::>::To: cf-talk
::>::Subject: Re: : Re: Getting cfimage to read .eps file
::>::
::>::dammit wrote a long answer and it cut it off.
::>::
::>::bottom line is this...
::>::An eps file is not an image file, it's an encapsulated postscript file
::or
::>::something but it's technically not an image just like a pdf isn't an
::image
::>::or a psd isn't an image and ai isn't an image, they aren't supported
::types
::>::either.
::>::
::>::If the file types isn't in the supported types then it isn't supported,
::it
::>::is pretty clear cut.
::>::
::>::You can upload any type of file you want but cfimage isn't going to
::give
::>::you the results you want because the file type isn't supported. cffile
::can
::>::give you some of what you might need but cfimage won't.
::>::
::>::
::>::
::>::
::>::
::>::>@Dave - That is an option to not allow our users upload that format,
::but
::>::the
::>::>my Client would like to allow the .eps format to be uploaded.  If that
::>::>format is allowed to be uploaded, I need to be able to pull the
::>::information
::>::>of the file out, like height, width, etc...
::>::>
::>::>So I'm just fishing to see anyone has use the <cfimage> tag to pull
::info
::>::on
::>::>a .eps file.  If so, how did they do it.
::>::>
::>::>;)
::>::>
::>::>
::
::

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[Chuck Weidler-2]

So Dave tell me.  What part of the below response I sent out before you sent
out your reply, about 10 minutes before,  didn't you understand?

--- Begin Prior Posting ---

@All Respondents - Thanks for everything.  I think my best course of action
is to explain to my Client about .eps files and have them make the decision
to not allow that file type to be uploaded for what I have to do with
uploaded images.

--- End Prior Posting ---

And since you seemed to do you research.  Did you know that an .eps file can
also be a Vector Graphic File, hence an image with the MIME type of
image/eps or image/x-eps.  But I'm sure you already knew that, right?

Knowing this is what spawned my question about it about possibly finding out
how CF might support such a file using cfimage.  And come on lighten up, it
was just a question about an supporting and image.



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[Dave Lyons-2]

The part that it wasnt posted online before I posted it, I am sorry that I don't stay glued to every second of the list. And I guess I am sorry for being the only one willing to reply to such a self-explanatory question.

And your response to this below hasn't even posted to the web list as of yet, so don't assume it's instant.

As far as my "research".. no, it is just common knowledge. But if the tag would have supported it don't you think it would be listed?

"MIME type of image/eps or image/x-eps"
yes and have you ever seen one of these files displayed as an image without a plugin?
And that vector plugin is just oh-so popular.


Hey ya know what.. at least I answered your question, everyone else ignored you, I was just telling you the reason why.

>So Dave tell me.  What part of the below response I sent out before you sent
>out your reply, about 10 minutes before,  didn't you understand?
>
>--- Begin Prior Posting ---
>
>@All Respondents - Thanks for everything.  I think my best course of action
>is to explain to my Client about .eps files and have them make the decision
>to not allow that file type to be uploaded for what I have to do with
>uploaded images.
>
>--- End Prior Posting ---
>
>And since you seemed to do you research.  Did you know that an .eps file can
>also be a Vector Graphic File, hence an image with the MIME type of
>image/eps or image/x-eps.  But I'm sure you already knew that, right?
>
>Knowing this is what spawned my question about it about possibly finding out
>how CF might support such a file using cfimage.  And come on lighten up, it
>was just a question about an supporting and image.

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[Dave Lyons-2]

isn't that for making eps not converting or in the case of Einstein on this one wanted the image info.. i guess who knows what he was after.

>How about: http://www.jibble.org/epsgraphics/
>
>*Ryan J. Heldt*, Senior Web Developer
>Global Reach Internet Productions
>http://www.globalreach.com
>Phone: [phone], Fax: [phone]
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>Mark Mandel wrote:
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[Dave Lyons-2]

"Ah, so eps is more like a 'psd' file rather than a 'png' file."
yes.. you can export an image file from it but it is more of a graphics file than an image. Even if you could display it there is no reason to actually do so since the files are huge.

"Now don't be rude"
I wasn't actually trying to.. that is just the way it comes out.

"I had thought that maybe 'eps' was a proprietary format similar to 'gif' is"
It is mostly made for print work using vector drawings and since printing takes a lot higher quality the file size isn't optimized for a smaller foot print. And really the resulting image needs to be flattened for web work.
It like a psd is a layer format which makes it more difficult for the web, although png & tiff can be layered.

Don't get me wrong I wasn't saying it was impossible to do anything with the file, I was just saying cfimage won't do it and that is why it isn't listed under the supported formats.

You could always upload it and run a command line to open it in illustrator, convert it and then have cfm do whatever with it.

><<Try to use an eps in a reg html img tag and see if it displays on web...
>it won't because IT IS NOT an image format.>>
>Ah, so eps is more like a 'psd' file rather than a 'png' file.
>
><< So would you hook up your garden hose and fill your tank with water and
>expect it run?>>
>That would be pretty cool though, wouldn't it?  I don't think that will be
>too far off in the future...  maybe a few decades?
>
><< time understanding that if it isn't on the supported formats then it
>isn't going to be supported then I would assume you won't be doing any java
>.>>
>Now don't be rude.  
>
>Recently I was reading the blog of my webhost where they announced that they
>would be supporting .dwt as a text/html delivered file.  They rationalized
>that since it was possible to do it, that they would support the customer
>who requested it.  Personally I prefer to teach the uninitiated rather than
>divert the river for them, but its not my company or my call.  
>
>I had thought that maybe 'eps' was a proprietary format similar to 'gif' is
>(was?). Hence the reason why I requested more information on the topic.
>
>After doing a (very) brief review of the google 'coldfusion convert .eps to
>.jpg', it appears that there was a tag available in the cf5 - cf6 days that
>was capable of doing the conversion:
>CFXImage tag from Gafware
>
>http://tinyurl.com/4e2zb4
>
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>IT Web Developer / Consultant
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