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Getting StartedGreetings. Pardon my ignorance, but I can't find out how to begin using MacPorts. I have a MacBook just under a year old, with a 2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor and OS X 10.5.4. I installed appropriate versions of X11, Xcode & MacPorts - all successfully, as I understood it. I cannot find MacPort's icon. Perhaps it is not its own app. In which case it is a bit beyond my ken. ...my barbie too. I've checked the online guide & FAQ and it all seems to assume this most basic how-to-start-using-it point is self-evident and I can't find any mention of what I need to do to begin doing anything else with it. I've given up on that route, after a couple hours of installing and searching. Began this whole process in an attempt to install GIMP. I'll try the other easy(?) route listed on their site, but would still be interested in checking out what-all MacPorts has to offer. It seems an exciting source to explore. I am not computer-illiterate, by any means - I used to program in Fortran, RPN & Basic, from the early 70s to the mid-80s - but I am only a propeller-head wannabe and have been spoiled by Macs for the last 24 years. I suspect this is at the core of my problem. Damn, I'm getting old... Any help would be appreciated. TIA, SamW _______________________________________________ macports-users mailing list macports-users@... http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macports-users |
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Re: Getting StartedSam, MacPorts is a command-line program. start Terminal (it has an icon in Aplications/Utilities). You can read about this using
man port <ENTER> in general you install something with sudo port -d install foo <ENTER> but see the web site and the man program. There are at least two Icon GUI programs for port. I use PortAuthority myself. You can get a demo from the web site and the licence is about $20 with free updates. see www.codebykevin.com/portauthority.html good luck WD On Sep 5, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Sam Williams wrote:
William Davis frstanATbellsouthDOTnet Mac OS X.5.4 Darwin 9.4.0 XQuartz 2.3.1 (xorg-server 1.4.2-apple16) Mac Mini Intel Duo @ 1.86 GHz Mundus vult decepi, ego non _______________________________________________ macports-users mailing list macports-users@... http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macports-users |
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Re: Getting StartedOn Sep 5, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Sam Williams wrote:
> Pardon my ignorance, but I can't find out how to begin using MacPorts. > > I have a MacBook just under a year old, with a 2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo > processor and OS X 10.5.4. > > I installed appropriate versions of X11, Xcode & MacPorts - all > successfully, as I understood it. > > I cannot find MacPort's icon. > > Perhaps it is not its own app. In which case it is a bit beyond my > ken. ...my barbie too. > > I've checked the online guide & FAQ and it all seems to assume this > most basic how-to-start-using-it point is self-evident and I can't > find any mention of what I need to do to begin doing anything else > with it. I've given up on that route, after a couple hours of > installing and searching. > > Began this whole process in an attempt to install GIMP. I'll try > the other easy(?) route listed on their site, but would still be > interested in checking out what-all MacPorts has to offer. It seems > an exciting source to explore. > > I am not computer-illiterate, by any means - I used to program in > Fortran, RPN & Basic, from the early 70s to the mid-80s - but I am > only a propeller-head wannabe and have been spoiled by Macs for the > last 24 years. I suspect this is at the core of my problem. > > Damn, I'm getting old... > > Any help would be appreciated. > > TIA, > > SamW Sam, There is no MacPorts icon, but don't despair... The first thing to do is select "/Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app" and drag it to the dock where you can access it easily. After you launch the Terminal from the dock, to make sure MacPorts is installed you can try : ~ $ which port ---> /opt/local/bin/port ~ $ port help 'port help' will fill the Terminal window, but won't help you much, if at all. You can try : ~ $ sudo port -d selfupdate This previous command will update MacPorts itself. The '-d' means do the update in the "debug mode". i.e. echo boatloads of info to the screen, you can also use '-v' which stands for "verbose mode". Your best bet is to purchase 'PortAutority.app' and slowly begin to learn about MacPorts with the goal to eventually do most everything with the Terminal. For me it has a lot more power, but took a while to figure out. Google 'macports documentation' and that should give you several places to begin. Checkout : http://www.macports.org/ http://guide.macports.org/ Try Google 'macports php'as an example and you'll find some links to help You can Google 'PortAutority.app', buy it, it will get you up and going quickly. It's a bargain... Once you install a few items with 'PortAutority.app' you can use the Terminal to issue some commands like : ~ $ port installed ~ $ port list installed About the same time, or shortly thereafter, that I started with MacPorts I got hit by a Trojan Horse that damaged, several machines, including servers, etc. This forced the shutdown, isolation, re- initialization of the OS on all the machines, backups, etc. It took a while to get all the issues resolved, until I finally found and eradicated the trojan. One of the biggest problems I ran into when I started was that anytime I installed the operating system on any of the machines, it took a lot of time to get all the ports installed, initialized, and running (particularly the databases). Eventually I wrote a shell script that installs, initializes all the databases, creates symlinks, makes backups of things like php.ini, my.cnf, pg_hba.conf, httpd.conf, all the apache virtual host files, etc. I do not keep any of the php.ini, my.cnf, pg_hba.conf, httpd.conf, all the apache virtual host files, etc. in the standard locations within '/ opt/local/...', instead I keep all the configuration files in another directory unrelated to '/opt/local/...', thus the reason for the symlinks. The nice thing about this is that if anything gets majorly hosed for whatever reason, I can run the shell script which backs up the databases, shuts down everything, deletes the '/opt/local/...' directory, re-installs MacPorts, and all the ports I need, re- initializes everything, restarts all the apache and associated pieces, restores the databases, and for the most part everything is back up and running very quickly. This was an important goal for me, to automate rebuilding all the MacPorts installs. I have gotten a lot of help on this board, it has been great. I mostly lurk as there are others that know far more, but this seemed like something I could reply to... Depending on your needs, you will most likely need some variants which provide additional functionalities to some of the ports. Whatever you do, don't give up on MacPorts, it is an awesome, and successful effort by some amazingly talented, and dedicated people to help the rest of us ordinary mortals... I added a couple of small shell scripts below for you, they may be overkill for you now, but at least you'll have them for later... Best of luck, Bill Hernandez Plano, Texas # --+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ # Here's a small shell script that will help you get variant info : # --+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ #!/bin/bash #Author - Bill Hernandez (Plano, Texas) # ScriptName - bh_port_variants v_1.0.0 # Modified - Thursday, September 13, 2007 (7:59 PM) # # make sure you save this in your shell search path # make sure you set the permissions so that the owner is executable # something like chmod 700 /path/to/bin/folder/bh_port_longdesc # This assumes you have BBEdit as a Text Editor, if you don't have it www.barebones.com has a free version that is almost as powerful # if you call it without passing it a port name, it will you give you info on Apache # port variants Apache2 divider ='-----------------------------------------------------------------' # --+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ # BEGIN CODE HERE # --+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ if [ $# -lt 1 ]; then fsubj=apache2 ; else fsubj=$1 ; fi apath=/Applications/BBEdit.app ; output_file=/tmp/${fsubj}_port_long_desc.txt ; debug_mode=true today="[`date +%Y.%d.%m`](`date +%I:%M%p`)" filepath=$0 dirpath=`dirname $filepath` script=$(basename $filepath) os_info=`uname -a` os=$(uname -a | awk '{print $1 " " $3}') domain=$(uname -a | awk '{print $2}') username=$(id -u -n) if [ $debug_mode == true ]; then echo $divider > $output_file ; echo "( 1 )" "called : $script $@" >> $output_file echo $divider >> $output_file ; echo "( 2 )" $today >> $output_file echo "( 3 )" "\$username : ${username}" >> $output_file echo "( 4 )" "\$filepath : " $filepath >> $output_file echo "( 5 )" "\$dirpath : " $dirpath >> $output_file echo "( 6 )" "\$script : " $script >> $output_file echo "( 7 )" "\$os : " $os >> $output_file echo "( 8 )" "\$domain : " $domain >> $output_file echo "( 9 )" "\$os_info : " $os_info >> $output_file echo $divider >> $output_file ; fi port variants $fsubj >> $output_file ; echo $divider >> $output_file ; port info long_description:$fsubj >> $output_file ; open -a $apath $output_file # --+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ # Here's a small shell script that will help the long description for a given port : # It may be overkill for now # --+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ #!/bin/bash #Author - Bill Hernandez (Plano, Texas) # ScriptName - bh_port_ldesc --> bh_port_longdesc v_1.0.0 # Modified - Thursday, September 13, 2007 (7:59 PM) # # make sure you save this in your shell search path # make sure you set the permissions so that the owner is executable # something like chmod 700 /path/to/bin/folder/bh_port_longdesc # This assumes you have BBEdit as a Text Editor, if you don't have it www.barebones.com has a free version that is almost as powerful # if you call it without passing it a port name, it will you give you info on Apache if [ $# -lt 1 ]; then fsubj=apache ; apath=/Applications/BBEdit.app ; fpath=/tmp/$ {fsubj}_port_long_desc.txt ; port info long_description:$fsubj >> $fpath ; open -a $apath $fpath else fsubj=$1 ; apath=/Applications/BBEdit.app ; fpath=/tmp/$ {fsubj}_port_long_desc.txt ; port info long_description:$fsubj >> $fpath ; open -a $apath $fpath fi # --+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ # This is far from complete, but it will give you some idea # --+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ #!/bin/bash # ScriptName : bh_port_install_part_01 # Version : 1.0.0 # Author : Bill Hernandez # Updated : Wednesday, April 16, 2008 (10:18 AM) bh_port_install_part_01 # SEE : bh_port_install_all # SEE : port_installed_2007_08_19.txt # SEE : port_complete_install_log.txt # SEE : port_pgsql_install_log.txt # SEE : port_install_notes.txt # [2008.02.05](12:19AM) -> [roscoe] ~ $ port list installed # # apache2 @2.2.8 www/apache2 # apr @1.2.12 devel/apr # apr-util @1.2.12 devel/apr-util # bison @2.3 devel/bison # bzip2 @1.0.5 archivers/bzip2 # curl @7.18.1 net/curl # cyrus-sasl2 @2.1.21 security/cyrus-sasl2 # db44 @4.4.20 databases/db44 # expat @2.0.1 textproc/expat # fontconfig @2.5.0 graphics/fontconfig # freetype @2.3.5 print/freetype # gawk @3.1.6 lang/gawk # gd2 @2.0.35 graphics/gd2 # gettext @0.17 devel/gettext # gmake @3.81 devel/gmake # jpeg @6b graphics/jpeg # libiconv @1.12 textproc/libiconv # libmcrypt @2.5.8 devel/libmcrypt # libpng @1.2.26 graphics/libpng # libtool @1.5.26 devel/libtool # libxml2 @2.6.31 textproc/libxml2 # libxslt @1.1.22 textproc/libxslt # m4 @1.4.10 devel/m4 # mhash @0.9.9 devel/mhash # mysql5 @5.0.51a databases/mysql5 # ncurses @5.6 devel/ncurses # ncursesw @5.6 devel/ncursesw # openldap @2.3.35 databases/openldap # openssl @0.9.8g devel/openssl # ossp-uuid @1.6.0 devel/ossp-uuid # pcre @7.6 devel/pcre # perl5.8 @5.8.8 lang/perl5.8 # php5 @5.2.5 www/php5 # pkgconfig @0.23 devel/pkgconfig # postgresql83 @8.3.1 databases/postgresql83 # postgresql83-doc @8.3.1 databases/ postgresql83-doc # postgresql83-server @8.3.1 databases/ postgresql83-server # readline @5.2.007 devel/readline # rpl @1.4.0 textproc/rpl # sqlite3 @3.5.8 databases/sqlite3 # tidy @20051026 www/tidy # tiff @3.8.2 graphics/tiff # zlib @1.2.3 archivers/zlib # # [2008.02.05](12:19AM) -> [roscoe] ~ $ # # +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+ # MACPORTS INSTALLATION ORDER - THIS IS HOW I INSTALLED THEM # +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+ # sudo port -d sync # sudo port -d selfupdate # bh_port_variants apache2 sudo echo install_all=true if [ $install_all == true ]; then sudo port -v install zlib sudo port -v install openssl sudo port -v install gd2 sudo port -v install libxml2 sudo port -v install perl5.8 sudo port -v install rpl sudo port -v install curl sudo port -v install apr sudo port -v install apr-util sudo port -v install bison sudo port -v install cyrus-sasl2 sudo port -v install libmcrypt sudo port -v install libxslt sudo port -v install mhash sudo port -v install openldap sudo port -v install pcre sudo port -v install tiff fi sudo port -d install apache2 sudo port -v install sqlite3 sudo port -v install postgresql83-server sudo port -v install postgresql83-doc sudo port -v install postgresql83 sudo port -v install mysql5 +server sudo port -d install php5 +apache2 +fastcgi +tidy +mysql5 +postgresql83 +sqlite +ipc +pcntl +pear +readline +sockets # +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ # TO RE-INSTALL APACHE DO THE FOLLOWING # +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ # open /opt/local # +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ # SHUTDOWN THE SERVERS # +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ # sudo launchctl unload -w /Library/LaunchDaemons/ org.macports.slapd.plist # sudo launchctl unload -w /Library/LaunchDaemons/ org.macports.postgresql83-server.plist # sudo launchctl unload -w /Library/LaunchDaemons/ org.macports.mysql5.plist # sudo launchctl unload -w /Library/LaunchDaemons/ org.macports.apache2.plist # +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ # UNINSTALL PHP AND APACHE2 # +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ # sudo port -v uninstall php5 +darwin_9 +macosx +apache2 +fastcgi +tidy +mysql5 +postgresql83 +sqlite +ipc +pcntl +pear # sudo port clean --all php5 +darwin_9 +macosx +apache2 +fastcgi +tidy +mysql5 +postgresql83 +sqlite +ipc +pcntl +pear # sudo port -v uninstall apache2 # sudo port clean --all apache2 # sudo port -v uninstall mysql5 # sudo port clean --all mysql5 # +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ # INSTALL PHP, MYSQL, PGSQL AND APACHE2 # +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ # sudo port -v install php5 +apache2 +fastcgi +tidy +mysql5 +postgresql83 +sqlite +ipc +pcntl +pear # +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ # INITIALIZE THE DATABASES, httpd.conf, my.cnf, pg_hba.cong, php.ini, etc # +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ # +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ # START THE SERVERS # +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ # sudo launchctl load -w /Library/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.slapd.plist # sudo launchctl load -w /Library/LaunchDaemons/ org.macports.postgresql83-server.plist # sudo launchctl load -w /Library/LaunchDaemons/ org.macports.mysql5.plist # sudo launchctl load -w /Library/LaunchDaemons/ org.macports.apache2.plist # +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+--------- +---------+---------+---------+---------+ _______________________________________________ macports-users mailing list macports-users@... http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macports-users |
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Re: Getting StartedOn Sep 6, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Bill Hernandez wrote: > The first thing to do is select "/Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app" > and drag it to the dock where you can access it easily. After you > launch the Terminal from the dock, to make sure MacPorts is installed > you can try : > > ~ $ which port > ---> /opt/local/bin/port > > ~ $ port help > > 'port help' will fill the Terminal window, but won't help you much, if > at all. If you don't find it helpful, why mention it to a newcomer? "man port" might be more helpful, or reading the Guide at http:// guide.macports.org/ > You can try : > > ~ $ sudo port -d selfupdate > > This previous command will update MacPorts itself. The '-d' means do > the update in the "debug mode". i.e. echo boatloads of info to the > screen, you can also use '-v' which stands for "verbose mode". Because boatloads of info are output, it's more helpful for the newcomer not to use the -d or -v flags. Just run "sudo port selfupdate" > Your best bet is to purchase 'PortAutority.app' and slowly begin to > learn about MacPorts with the goal to eventually do most everything > with the Terminal. For me it has a lot more power, but took a while to > figure out. Instead, I would think the best bet is to read the Guide, understand how MacPorts works, and use the "port" command in the Terminal to manage your ports. As far as I'm concerned, that is the only supported way of using MacPorts -- the only way we can help you on the mailing list. If you use someone else's GUI client, you'll have to get help through the author of that GUI client. > Google 'macports documentation' and that should give you several > places to begin. You don't need Google; you just need our official web page and documentation, which are, as you pointed out: > Checkout : > > http://www.macports.org/ > http://guide.macports.org/ > Try Google 'macports php'as an example and you'll find some links to > help I would rather suggest that you peruse the How-To documents in the MacPorts wiki: http://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto I would prefer for documentation about MacPorts to exist on the MacPorts web site. If our documentation is insufficient, please correct it by amending the appropriate wiki page, or adding a new wiki page, or filing a ticket requesting the Guide be updated. > You can Google 'PortAutority.app', buy it, it will get you up and > going quickly. It's a bargain... MacPorts itself is a bargain and costs $0. You don't need to buy anything to use it to its fullest extent. Now, if you're uncomfortable with the Terminal, then a GUI may help you, though I have not used any MacPorts GUI and cannot vouch for the functionality, easy of use, value or any other aspect of any of them. > Once you install a few items with 'PortAutority.app' you can use the > Terminal to issue some commands like : > > ~ $ port installed > ~ $ port list installed There is probably no reason to ever run "port list installed"; it probably does not do what a beginner or a casual MacPorts user would expect. (It lists the current version of every installed port, even if that is not the version that is installed.) "port installed" is probably what you always want. (It lists the port versions that are actually installed.) > About the same time, or shortly thereafter, that I started with > MacPorts I got hit by a Trojan Horse that damaged, several machines, > including servers, etc. This forced the shutdown, isolation, re- > initialization of the OS on all the machines, backups, etc. It took a > while to get all the issues resolved, until I finally found and > eradicated the trojan. This information seems irrelevant to helping a new user get started with MacPorts. > One of the biggest problems I ran into when I started was that anytime > I installed the operating system on any of the machines, it took a lot > of time to get all the ports installed, initialized, and running > (particularly the databases). Eventually I wrote a shell script that > installs, initializes all the databases, creates symlinks, makes > backups of things like php.ini, my.cnf, pg_hba.conf, httpd.conf, all > the apache virtual host files, etc. > > I do not keep any of the php.ini, my.cnf, pg_hba.conf, httpd.conf, all > the apache virtual host files, etc. in the standard locations > within '/ > opt/local/...', instead I keep all the configuration files in another > directory unrelated to '/opt/local/...', thus the reason for the > symlinks. The nice thing about this is that if anything gets majorly > hosed for whatever reason, I can run the shell script which backs up > the databases, shuts down everything, deletes the '/opt/local/...' > directory, re-installs MacPorts, and all the ports I need, re- > initializes everything, restarts all the apache and associated pieces, > restores the databases, and for the most part everything is back up > and running very quickly. This was an important goal for me, to > automate rebuilding all the MacPorts installs. It really should not be necessary to reinstall MacPorts on a regular basis, so this does seem like overkill. Not something a new user should need to burden themselves with. I will say that I do store my MySQL databases outside of the default location within /opt/local; I have them in my home directory. I also have my Subversion repositories and web sites in my home directory. Somehow it feels better to have my data in my home directory. It's unlikely you'll accidentally lose something in your home directory, but a friend of mine (who seems to get a new computer yearly) has on more than one occasion lost his MySQL databases because he forgot they existed, used Migration Assistant to copy data to his new machine (which did not copy his databases or anything else that was in /usr/local), and erased and sold the old machine before realizing these critical items had not been copied. YMMV. > I have gotten a lot of help on this board, it has been great. I mostly > lurk as there are others that know far more, but this seemed like > something I could reply to... > > Depending on your needs, you will most likely need some variants which > provide additional functionalities to some of the ports. This is good advice. Check "port variants foo" before installing port foo to see if it has any variants you want. > Whatever you do, don't give up on MacPorts, it is an awesome, and > successful effort by some amazingly talented, and dedicated people to > help the rest of us ordinary mortals... > > I added a couple of small shell scripts below for you, they may be > overkill for you now, but at least you'll have them for later... [snip] _______________________________________________ macports-users mailing list macports-users@... http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macports-users |
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