Nabble - Gentoo

Re: Re: [OT] Other repositories

2008-12-05T05:10:19Z

On Friday 05 December 2008 01:05:55 Harry Putnam wrote:

> Is there no handy way to get an idea what you might encounter in the
> different overlays? There doesn't seem to be any descriptions
> anywhere.

Didn't someone mention update-eix-remote recently?

--
Rgds
Peter

From forum: gentoo-user

Re: Re: Buying a low-cost printer for Linux

2008-12-05T05:05:47Z

On Thursday 04 December 2008 20:41:18 Grant Edwards wrote:

> I've had an HP LaserJet 1200 for about 4-5 years now. I only
> print once or twice a month, and I've never had a single
> problem. It's still on the original toner cartridge, and I
> don't think I've even got through an entire ream of paper yet.
>
> It does Postscript, and there's a .ppd file for it, so it "just
> works" with CUPS. It gets pretty hot/humid in the summer and
> pretty cold/dry in the winter, and it doesn't seem to affect
> the printer.
>
> It doesn't do color, but I write all my code in black and white
> anyway...

And my Kyocera FS1020D is similarly lightly loaded with no ill effects.
Comes with its own .ppd file and does double-sided out of the box. Best
printer I've had for years.

--
Rgds
Peter

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What is the policy for a security fix for kernel?

2008-12-05T05:03:24Z

Hi,

For example, bug 249729 (http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=249729) is a security bug that affect a lot of versions (http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/32516/info).
Also, i may be wrong... i don't think it is a very dangerous bug... but it is a security bug anyway.

So, what the KernelTeam do in this case?

First, genpatches and gentoo-sources have in cvs-trunk 2.6.25, 2.6.26, 2.6.27 and now is creating the structure for 2.6.28. But let focus on .25, .26 and .27 that are the stable kernel releases.

For .27, the 2.6.27.8 stable review cycle is in process, so when it's released, KernelTeam just update genpatches to have 2.6.27.8 patch and release 2.6.26-r4? And ask for stabilization?

For .26, backport to genpatches and release 2.6.26-r4?
Same for .25, and release 2.6.25-r10?
(Or if the patch just apply with no problems, just get it and put it in there.)

The older versions, are not suported by genpatches anymore... but they should stay marked as stable, even with security bugs?

And what is the procedure for the sys-kernel/vanilla-sources ebuilds? Leave it as it is? Try to stabilize any new version? Take out any version or put ~ back in them?

Ty
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Re: ssmtp & at&t woes

2008-12-05T04:59:48Z

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Stroller <stroller@...> wrote:

On 5 Dec 2008, at 03:12, John Blinka wrote:

...

I've run out of patience with this and am
now relaying my mail to smtp.gmail.com via ssmtp. That worked
immediately without any of the at&t pain. ...

That will always change your "from: " email address to your @gmail one. If you own my.cool.domain.com then you can't send email with a "from: " address within that domain.

That's what I want to happen, so it's fine.

BT in the UK do this with Yahoo!, too. You have to login to the Yahoo! webmail for the account, go into "options" (I think it's under "other accounts") and add your other email addresses. You'll be able to use them as your "from: " addresses with the Yahoo SMTP server once you've clicked on the links in the emails they send you.

AT&T's yahoo interface has an "options" menu, and I've explored it extensively, but
I haven't found such a place to add "from" addresses. Mysteriously (to me at least), once
I gave up on AT&T's smtp server and set my system up to relay through gmail, my
nightly amanda jobs successfully sent their email reports to my att.net email account.
(I'd forgotten to change the email reporting address from att.net to gmail.com in my
amanda.conf files.) So, I guess at&t/yahoo regard gmail as a legitimate source of email.

John

From forum: gentoo-user

Re: gentoo package source CD available?

2008-12-05T04:46:48Z

On 5 Dec 2008, at 05:56, hiren joshi wrote:

> ...
> - no internet connection and
> - still want to compile the source for my specific
> architecture/processor to make my system speedy
>
> Are there CD/DVDs available that contains sources (burn to CD/DVD at a
> point of time) of all the gentoo packages?
> If yes, pls point me to a link about how can I install gentoo using
> these CD/DVDs.
>
> If not, any other method to achieve this?

Best thing to do is burn the stage CD and also a copy of the Portage
Daily Snapshot [1].

Boot from it the stage 1 on your Internetless machine, and instead of
syncing unpack the snapshot into /usr/portage. When you get to the
`emerge world` part (or any `emerge` part) of the installation
instructions, substitute with `emerge -pvf > textfile.txt`. Then take
textfile.txt to a connected machine & use wget to fetch all the
packages listed in it. Copy those onto a CD & then into /usr/portage/
distfiles/

This is a bit time-consuming, especially as you probably won't
initially be aware of all the packages you need, but it's well-
documented and it's pretty much the only way to install packages under
Gentoo.

Compiling from source probably won't make any significant difference
to the speed of your machine, especially stage 1 vs stage 3 - stage 1
will probably just make the installation more complex and result in
more sneakernet trips between the connected & disconnected machines.

Stroller.

[1] http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2

From forum: gentoo-user

Re: Re: [OT] Other repositories

2008-12-05T04:45:29Z

On Friday 5 December 2008, 02:05, Harry Putnam wrote:

> > If by "other repositories" you mean overlays, see this:
> >
> > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/userguide.xml
>
> I see yes, but how do you tell what the member overlays are about?
> Those with names like `Apache' `perl' `VMware' etc are obvious enough
> but what about things like `Sunrise Gentoo User Overlay' or the ones
> just named after developers?
>
> layman -L just shows the source address.
>
> http://overlays.gentoo.org/
>
> Shows little more
>
> Is there no handy way to get an idea what you might encounter in the
> different overlays? There doesn't seem to be any descriptions
> anywhere.

http://overlays.gentoo.org/

Select the overlay from the list on the left, then choose "browse
source", and you can get an idea of what there's inside. For the sunrise
overlay, here is the list you're probably looking for:

http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/sunrise/browser/sunrise

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Re: ssmtp & at&t woes

2008-12-05T04:36:12Z

On 5 Dec 2008, at 03:12, John Blinka wrote:
> ...
> I've run out of patience with this and am
> now relaying my mail to smtp.gmail.com via ssmtp. That worked
> immediately without any of the at&t pain. ...

That will always change your "from: " email address to your @gmail
one. If you own my.cool.domain.com then you can't send email with a
"from: " address within that domain.

> ...
> Thanks for this suggestion. I tried nullmailer, and it is, indeed,
> easier
> to set up. And I think it worked, too, but then I ran afoul of a
> "553"
> error in t&t/yahoo's smtp server - something about an unverified
> alternate email address. I'm guessing that nullmailer worked, but
> that at&t/yahoo have some additional layer of requirements for a
> working smtp connection.

BT in the UK do this with Yahoo!, too. You have to login to the Yahoo!
webmail for the account, go into "options" (I think it's under "other
accounts") and add your other email addresses. You'll be able to use
them as your "from: " addresses with the Yahoo SMTP server once you've
clicked on the links in the emails they send you.

Stroller.

From forum: gentoo-user

Atualização do Gentoo

2008-12-05T04:33:03Z

Ola lista!

Caros amigos, estou afim de fazer uma boa limpeza no meu sistema, atualizei o portage para o 2.2 (por outros motivos).

Mas fiquei curioso com o arquivo world (/var/lib/portage) se eu tirar algums programas que tem neste arquivo, quando eu der o famoso emerge -uDN world, o que não estiver na lista vai ser removido? Se sim é ótimo pois não terei que remover as coisas que não quero antes. rs

Outra duvida fica por conta do KDE4, tenho o 4.1.1 e quero ir pro 4.1.3, ou ir para o kde-testing. Mas pelo que li em:

>>http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml)

Devo remover meu kde-4.1 (que eu não lembro se instalei via layman ou via kdesvn e eu não tenho mais os ebuilds dele) e fico imaginando se apenas removê-lo normalmente não vá dar problemas, visto que logo no inicio do handbook do link acima, ele especifica como remover todo o kde4 segundo o modo usado para instalá-lo.

Li também sobre a flag kdeprefix li em:
Que parece boa para manter dois KDE num futuro.

Estou tentando sacar as novidades do portage 2.2_rc16.
Mas pretendo atualizar meu sistema todo nas férias, tem coisas muito velhas nele, tem muito software que eu não uso mais (visto que eu instaldo um monte de coisas pra ver como é e depois fica cheio de depends perdidos)

Não sei se mais alguém ai vai fazer a famosa faxina de fim de ano rs

Abs

Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! +Buscados
http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com

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Re: [RFC] Create a JOBS variable to replace -jX in MAKEOPTS

2008-12-05T03:44:44Z

Peter Volkov <pva@...> writes:

> This variable will be used in eclasses so it's better to avoid portage
> in it's name, since not only portage will work with it. GENTOO_JOBS is
> really something new in sense of consistency. EJOBS looks most terse for
> me but I'll be ok with any name...

It's just I don't want to end up colliding with other stuff like
EclipseJobs or something else.

And my reason to not propose PORTAGE_JOBS is actually that it suggests
relation with -j option to emerge rather than make ;)

> For load average may be it's good to use another variable to avoid
> overloading of "JOBS" meaning?

Agreed, easier than ending up having to parse a variable content, after
all environment variables are kinda cheap.

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Re: confusing depclean output

2008-12-05T03:37:08Z

Michael P. Soulier wrote:

> On 04/12/08 Dale said:
>
>
>> Yep, I had to add that option to mine a while back for --depclean to
>> work. Add that and it should run cleanly afterwards. You could also
>> --oneshot those in the list and it should work. I haven't tried that yet
>> but read it works.
>>
>
> The docs on this seem wrong.
>
> --with-bdeps < y | n >
> In dependency calculations, pull in build time dependencies that
> are not strictly required. This defaults to 'n' for installa-
> tion actions and 'y' for the --depclean action. This setting
> can be added to EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS (see make.conf(5)) and later
> overridden via the command line.
>
> But it doesn't seem to default to y for --depclean. I get completely different
> results when I set --with-bdeps=y on --depclean.
>
> Mike
>

Try this command:

emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps y world

When that is done, then try the --depclean, with a -p first. ;-)

Dale

:-) :-)

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Re: Curious pattern in log files from ssh...

2008-12-05T03:24:34Z

Alan McKinnon wrote:

> On Thursday 04 December 2008 21:03:17 Christian Franke wrote:
>
>> I just don't see what blocking ssh-bruteforce attempts should be good
>> for, at least on a server where few _users_ are active.
>>
> Two reasons:
>
> a. Maybe, just maybe, you overlooked something. Belts, braces and a drawstring
> for good measure is not a bad thing.
>
> b. You probably want to get all that crap out of your log files off into some
> other place where you can cope with it. Parsing auth log files that are 95%
> brute force attempts is no fun. I like to have the crap in place A and the
> real stuff in place B, makes my job so much easier
>

I agree 100% with the above - another issue is that I'd like to block
all traffic from malicious hosts - I realise that the traffic is low at
the moment, but that need not be the case in future.
>> Also, things like fail2ban add new attack-possibilities to a system, I
>> remember the old DoS for fail2ban, resulting from a wrong regex in log
>> file parsing, but I think at least this is fixed now.
>>
> Whereas that is true enough in itself, the actual risk of such is rather low
> in comparison to the gains. Hence it is not a valid reason to not use
> fail2ban and such-like apps.
The issue for me is that the cost of a DOS is far, far lower than the
cost of a break-in. The cost of a DOS that prevents access from new
hosts is orders of magnitude lower than the cost of a DOS. Everyone's
risk profiles are different - but, for me, keeping out intruders is
critical (they may result in unrecoverable data loss) and my
accessibility objective is that it be the 'norm' that I can log in with
an unusual-username and complex password from a trustworthy PC whose IP
address can not be determined in advance... using only bog-standard
tools and no non-remembered personal data.

I'm coming around to the idea of port-knocking, but my gut instinct is
that it is a bit baroque and has potential for me to louse-up its
implementation... It definitely adversely affects usability - though, I
admit, less than I first suspected. I'm still quite interested in the
idea of identifying botnets where used to subvert the tactics used by
fail2ban; blacklist.py, etc. and using these to, in turn, block access
to any service... including, for example, hosted web-services which are,
potentially, in spite of taking all the obvious precautions, more
vulnerable to attack - IMHO.

I'm definitely thinking that it would be a good idea if there were a way
to publish botnet lists... such that they could be collated and turned
into a DNSBL style resource. If such a resource existed, I'd definitely
chose to use it (overridden by a few whitelist entries of my own -
just-in-case...) and I'd be very happy to report back to it in order to
help keeping this problem under control. Incidentally, I'd also
consider it useful to monitor this block list for any occurrence of my
own IP address - since that would be an early indication that one of my
hosts may be compromised.

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Re: Re: [RFC] Create a JOBS variable to replace -jX in MAKEOPTS

2008-12-05T02:30:39Z

В Птн, 05/12/2008 в 08:23 +0100, Rémi Cardona пишет:
> Le 05/12/2008 05:33, Joe Peterson a écrit :
> > How about "PORTAGE_JOBS" to go along with "PORTAGE_OVERLAY",
> > "PORTAGE_NICENESS", etc.
>
> While this part of the thread has a lot of bikeshedding potential, Joe's
> name sounds more consistent with what we already have.

This variable will be used in eclasses so it's better to avoid portage
in it's name, since not only portage will work with it. GENTOO_JOBS is
really something new in sense of consistency. EJOBS looks most terse for
me but I'll be ok with any name...

For load average may be it's good to use another variable to avoid
overloading of "JOBS" meaning?

--
Peter.

From forum: gentoo-dev

Re: gentoo package source CD available?

2008-12-05T01:14:33Z

hiren joshi schrieb:

> Hello,
>
> Want to swith to gentoo, but
>
> - no internet connection and
> - still want to compile the source for my specific
> architecture/processor to make my system speedy
>
> Are there CD/DVDs available that contains sources (burn to CD/DVD at a
> point of time) of all the gentoo packages?
> If yes, pls point me to a link about how can I install gentoo using
> these CD/DVDs.
>
> If not, any other method to achieve this?
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> -hiren
>
>

Hi Hiren,

there is some information about this in the handbook [1]. There even is
a special handbook for installation without internet [2]. Double check
this but I am nearly sure there is no DVD / BlueRay with all the
packages available from gentoo. This has two reasons. First: As far as I
know this would be more than 80 gb by now. Second an more important:
they change every day.

kh

[1]http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=2#doc_chap2
[2]http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2008.0/index.xml

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Re: 3D Unterstützung kaputt

2008-12-04T23:57:19Z

Hallo,

Am Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2008 20:31:15 schrieb Christian Franke:

> Also bei mir ist eine in:
> x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-180.06
> (/usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/extensions/libglx.so)
> und in:
> x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6
> (/usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/extensions/libglx.so)

In *keinem* dieser Verzeichnisse existiert die geforderte Datei.

> Ich würde dir mal empfehlen folgendes zu tun:
> # eselect opengl list
> zu tätigen, Ausgabe sollte in etwa so aussehen, nur wahrscheinlich fglrx
> statt nvidia:
> ---
> Available OpenGL implementations:
> [1] nvidia *
> [2] xorg-x11

Das hatte ich bereits getan. ati und xorg-x11 werden gelistet und
ich kann/konnte per eselect problemlos umschalten.

Ich hatte den xserver erneut installiert inklusive der video-treiber.

Beste Grüße,

Peter

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Re: Re: [RFC] Create a JOBS variable to replace -jX in MAKEOPTS

2008-12-04T23:23:22Z

Le 05/12/2008 05:33, Joe Peterson a écrit :
> How about "PORTAGE_JOBS" to go along with "PORTAGE_OVERLAY",
> "PORTAGE_NICENESS", etc.

While this part of the thread has a lot of bikeshedding potential, Joe's
name sounds more consistent with what we already have.

Naming issues appart, it's a good idea.

+1 from me :)

Rémi

From forum: gentoo-dev

Re: Curious pattern in log files from ssh...

2008-12-04T23:16:46Z

On Thursday 04 December 2008, Steve wrote:

> Simon wrote:
> > Since it is very unlikely that the attacker is targeting you
> > specifically, changing the port number (and removing root access) will
> > very likely stop the attack forever. Though, if the attacker did
> > target you, then you will need some more security tools (intrusion
> > detection, etc...).
>
> I recognise that this doesn't seem to be a targeted attack - but it is
> still frustrating to find that someone has evaded my IP blocking
> strategy... even though they pose only a slightly elevated risk by
> having done so. (Of course, I don't permit root login - that would be
> madness... and, as far as I'm aware, no-one has guessed even a valid
> user name... they're all obscure!)
>
> The thing that strikes me is that, in evading my blocking strategy, they
> clearly identified a bot-net of compromised hosts. With this in mind,
> ideally, I'd like to:
>
> 1. Automatically detect and block all future attacks on all ports from
> all hosts which are involved in this coordinated attack. These hosts
> can't be trusted not to be malicious.
> 2. Somehow inform the administrator of the hosts attacking me (in a
> respectful way) since, I presume, they are unaware that their host is
> involved in the attack.
> 3. Ideally, share this kind of information so that myself and others are
> better protected from bot-net attacks in future.
>
> It's the sort of thing I imagine has already been done - and there's no
> point in re-inventing the wheel.

I recall something similar whereby the attacked machines would automatically
launch an attack on the botnet/spammer to effect a DoS. Then the spammers
complained and the guys who had written the software were forced by the
police to recall it . . . sometimes I wonder. Anyway, I'm a bit thin on
details - this was all the rage about 4-5 years ago as a legit way to defend
yourself against spam.

What I think is required is a script which will identify the compromised
machine and promptly reformat its MSWindows OS - problem solved. Of course
how you keep tabs on this tool not being misused is another thing.
--
Regards,
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Re: emerge --update pulling in enlightenment-0.16.9999.050

2008-12-04T22:54:24Z

On Friday 05 December 2008 05:46:30 Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote:

> > I should give e17 another try when it gets a little more stable, or
> > when at least Vapier finds the time to update the snapshot ebuilds
> > (which, last time I checked, were horribly outdated).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jorge Peixoto
>
> Oh, great, it seems vapier updated the snapshots!
> Alan, would you recommend an e17 snapshot (dated 2008-09-25) to a
> system that is mostly stable? I love simplicity, weightlessness and
> speed, but I don't want too many (or severe) bugs.

The snapshots are really just cvs dumps at a point in time where the devs get
relatively few bugs reports. IIRC, august/september was a quiet period with
no breakages so it should be ok to try out.

The only gotcha I can think of is that there's a new base EFL package called
eina and the ebuilds might not include it. See what "eix eina" returns. If
nothing, then copy one of the smaller e17 libs ebuilds into your private
overlay, change the obvious places to "eina" and emerge it first. Then emerge
e.

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gentoo package source CD available?

2008-12-04T21:56:42Z

Hello,

Want to swith to gentoo, but

- no internet connection and
- still want to compile the source for my specific
architecture/processor to make my system speedy

Are there CD/DVDs available that contains sources (burn to CD/DVD at a
point of time) of all the gentoo packages?
If yes, pls point me to a link about how can I install gentoo using
these CD/DVDs.

If not, any other method to achieve this?

Thanks for your time.

-hiren

From forum: gentoo-user

Re: Re: [RFC] Create a JOBS variable to replace -jX in MAKEOPTS

2008-12-04T20:33:01Z

Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> "Alec Warner" <antarus@...> writes:
>
>> Looks Good To Me, but I would prefix the JOBS variable with some sort
>> of namespace (EJOBS, GENTOO_JOBS, etc.) to avoid conflicts with other
>> systems that may use JOBS internally already (seems vaguely likely).
>
> Good point, GENTOO_JOBS sounds good to me.

How about "PORTAGE_JOBS" to go along with "PORTAGE_OVERLAY",
"PORTAGE_NICENESS", etc.

-Joe

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Re: emerge --update pulling in enlightenment-0.16.9999.050

2008-12-04T19:46:30Z

> I should give e17 another try when it gets a little more stable, or
> when at least Vapier finds the time to update the snapshot ebuilds
> (which, last time I checked, were horribly outdated).
>
> Regards,
> Jorge Peixoto

Oh, great, it seems vapier updated the snapshots!
Alan, would you recommend an e17 snapshot (dated 2008-09-25) to a
system that is mostly stable? I love simplicity, weightlessness and
speed, but I don't want too many (or severe) bugs.

--
Software is like sex: it is better when it is free - Linus Torvalds

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Re: emerge --update pulling in enlightenment-0.16.9999.050

2008-12-04T19:34:34Z

> e17 doesn't like transparency and compiz-style effects. You can get it to work
> with the bling module or by using a compositing manager like xcompmgr or a
> derivative, but I found it wasn't exactly stable on nVidia. You may have
> better luck with ATI.

Going offtopic, I for myself don't care about "fancy" eye-candy at
all. I consider it futile. For example, my Xfce (with all compositing
effects disabled) looks beautiful enough, and is fast, lightweight,
customizable, simple and understandable.
The things I miss from e17 are that e17 is even more configurable (you
can configure what keyboard+mouse combination resizes a windows, for
example, while on Xfce it seems hardwired to <alt>right-click, while I
would prefer to use <alt>middle-click, since I often have to use GNOME
and would like to use the same shortcuts), and even more lightweight
(disk space, memory, speed) than Xfce.

I should give e17 another try when it gets a little more stable, or
when at least Vapier finds the time to update the snapshot ebuilds
(which, last time I checked, were horribly outdated).

Regards,
Jorge Peixoto

--
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Re: ssmtp & at&t woes

2008-12-04T19:12:07Z

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Håkon Alstadheim <hakon@...> wrote:

Since this thread has been going on for so long without a resolution, I thought I'd mention that I recently switched to nullmailer from ssmtp. Im using port 587 with STARTTLS, and I find nullmailer way easier to set up. Just put --user and --pass parameters in /etc/nullmailer/remotes.

Thanks for this suggestion. I tried nullmailer, and it is, indeed, easier
to set up. And I think it worked, too, but then I ran afoul of a "553"
error in t&t/yahoo's smtp server - something about an unverified
alternate email address. I'm guessing that nullmailer worked, but
that at&t/yahoo have some additional layer of requirements for a
working smtp connection. I've run out of patience with this and am
now relaying my mail to smtp.gmail.com via ssmtp. That worked
immediately without any of the at&t pain.

Thanks to everyone who responded!

John

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Re: instalar gentoo em LVM

2008-12-04T17:53:33Z

Ele gera algum erro especifico?
Ele cai no prompt aquele dizendo que não achou e te da opção de shell?
Se sim, va pra shell e execute:

vgscan -a y
ls /dev/mapper

e veja se aparece.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 22:59, José Everaldo <joseeeveraldo@...> wrote:
> Já revisei as opções do kernel e o erro não esta nessa parte, mesmo
> assim obrigado.
>
> José Everaldo
>
>

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Re: [OT] Other repositories

2008-12-04T17:05:55Z

Etaoin Shrdlu <shrdlu@...> writes:

> On Thursday 4 December 2008, 23:16, Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>> I've seen it discussed here about how to access other repositories
>> besides the default ones shown on the mirrors link at gentoo.org.
>>
>> But am completely drawing blanks now trying to remember how I might go
>> about accessing other repos... also could use a word of advice as to
>> which are reliable or whatever.
>
> If by "other repositories" you mean overlays, see this:
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/userguide.xml

I see yes, but how do you tell what the member overlays are about?
Those with names like `Apache' `perl' `VMware' etc are obvious enough
but what about things like `Sunrise Gentoo User Overlay' or the ones
just named after developers?

layman -L just shows the source address.

http://overlays.gentoo.org/

Shows little more

Is there no handy way to get an idea what you might encounter in the
different overlays? There doesn't seem to be any descriptions
anywhere.

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Re: instalar gentoo em LVM

2008-12-04T16:59:57Z

Já revisei as opções do kernel e o erro não esta nessa parte, mesmo
assim obrigado.

José Everaldo

From forum: gentoo-user-br

Re: Curious pattern in log files from ssh...

2008-12-04T16:15:29Z

On December 4, 2008, Adam Carter wrote:
> > Open a Wiki page on Wikipedia, update it every so often and
> > provide simple
> > parser for it so others can recycle same IPs. Since it's a
> > Wiki page - others
> > can update it as well (including botnet owners, but then
> > they'd have to reveal themselves - tricky situation) :)
>
> Reveal themselves in what way? If you're taking about source IP, they can
> just use one of their bots to make the page update...

true.

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Re: Soliciting news items to test GLEP 42 support in sys-apps/portage-2.1.6_rc

2008-12-04T16:05:50Z

On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:12:58 -0800
Zac Medico <zmedico@...> wrote:

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> Hi,
>
> The GLEP 42 news support [1] is going to be available in stable when
> sys-apps/portage-2.1.6 is marked stable later this month. I think
> the news code is pretty well tested already, but it would be nice to
> deploy some news items in order to get some additional testing. If
> you have any ideas for news items then please go ahead an propose
> them soon so that we can deploy them.
>
> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0042.html
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> Thanks,
> Zac

I'd like to suggest the obiligatory news item about portage now having
support for news items.

:)

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Re: Curious pattern in log files from ssh...

2008-12-04T15:42:57Z

Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:

> On December 3, 2008, Steve wrote:
>> Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
>>> well. Nobody but you knows your requiremens and specifics - we're just
>>> listing options. It's up to you to either take 'em or leave 'em ;)
>> Fair enough - but I've still not found an option for sharing/using
>> shared block lists for bot-nets.
>
> Open a Wiki page on Wikipedia, update it every so often and provide simple
> parser for it so others can recycle same IPs. Since it's a Wiki page - others
> can update it as well (including botnet owners, but then they'd have to
> reveal themselves - tricky situation) :)

I hear the botnet owners have 1 or 2 spare machine scattered around the world they can proxy through... :)

Shawn

From forum: gentoo-user

Re: Audacious annoyance (special chars)

2008-12-04T15:33:56Z

quoth the Dave Jones:

> darren kirby wrote on 04/12/08 23:32:
> > I've just noticed that my audacious will not play songs with special
> > characters in the filename (ie: acute and grave accents, umlauts,
> > cedillas etc) no matter how I try. Needless to say, this is very annoying
> > as I have a lot of 'world music' that uses such characters.
> >
> > Version is 1.5.1-r1, USE flags are: 'chardet nls session sse2'
>
> The same audacious version played Jethro Tull Bourée and Animalée tracks
> fine here. My USE flags are 'nls session sse2'
>
> Cheers, Dave

OK, well, I rebuilt audacious with USE -chardet and now it plays these songs
fine, however, it has created a new (worse!) annoyance, in that when I select
a new song to play whilst one is already playing it spawns another audacious
and plays the two songs simultaneously....

yersh......

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Re: Do we need gentoo-council mailing list?

2008-12-04T15:28:33Z

On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 21:14 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote:
> Looking at past threads all the stuff on this mailing list since a year
> ago would be just fine when handled on gentoo-project. So I suggest we
> use gentoo-project and deprecate this mailing list.
>
> Regards,
> Petteri
>

No thanks. -project has double the traffic of this list.
It's much easier to see exactly what we are doing here on the council
list. Nearly 100% of the traffic on this list is from devs. While
project is almost 30% user traffic.

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Re: Audacious annoyance (special chars)

2008-12-04T15:05:22Z

darren kirby wrote on 04/12/08 23:32:
> I've just noticed that my audacious will not play songs with special
> characters in the filename (ie: acute and grave accents, umlauts, cedillas
> etc) no matter how I try. Needless to say, this is very annoying as I have a
> lot of 'world music' that uses such characters.
>
> Version is 1.5.1-r1, USE flags are: 'chardet nls session sse2'

The same audacious version played Jethro Tull Bourée and Animalée tracks
fine here. My USE flags are 'nls session sse2'

Cheers, Dave

From forum: gentoo-user

Re: Buying a low-cost printer for Linux

2008-12-04T14:52:05Z

KH wrote on 04/12/08 19:47:
> I have been told not to touch the Samsung drivers. I am using
> net-print/foo2zjs.

foo2zjs works well with the cheap HP CLJ1600 laser printer.

Cheap, fast, no more expensive dried-up inkjet cartridges, good deal.

Cheers, Dave

From forum: gentoo-user

RE: Curious pattern in log files from ssh...

2008-12-04T14:51:46Z

> > Also take a note that there are no "known-compromised hosts"
>
> What about hosts listed in RBLs?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_DNS_blacklists. It
> would be interesting to see if how much correlation there is
> between ssh brute forcing bots and the contents of the various lists.

Maybe http://wiki.duskglow.com/tiki-index.php?page=Packetbl "PacketBL is a program that uses DNS blocklists to determine whether to accept or reject packets"

Used with dnsbl.ahbl.org "Aggregate zone, contains UCE/bulk email senders, open proxies, open relays, trojaned/infected machines, comment/trackback spammers"

would be a good solution.

From forum: gentoo-user

Re: confusing depclean output

2008-12-04T14:45:59Z

On 04/12/08 Michael P. Soulier said:

> The docs on this seem wrong.

And yet they're not, since this is an update and not a depclean. I'll be quiet
now.

Mike

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RE: Curious pattern in log files from ssh...

2008-12-04T14:42:51Z

> Open a Wiki page on Wikipedia, update it every so often and
> provide simple
> parser for it so others can recycle same IPs. Since it's a
> Wiki page - others
> can update it as well (including botnet owners, but then
> they'd have to reveal themselves - tricky situation) :)

Reveal themselves in what way? If you're taking about source IP, they can just use one of their bots to make the page update...

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