GRaham-2.3.4 aint all that bad

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GRaham-2.3.4 aint all that bad

by Les Knoll :: Rate this Message:

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Graham,

I have a restured 3 manual single bolster TPO console fully MIDI wired and runnng 6 MIDI channels to a 1.7 gig single processor with 2 gig of memory and ONE Soundblasater soundcard:

What possible advantages would this 3.x/ fluid synth upgrade already give me?

I have 2 perfectly functioning instances of SFZ synths with all the ranks and polyphony I need. Many I have sampled myself-fully balanced and terraced

Fully operational Swells and Crescendo

Adjustable pistons of every kind and need, Divisional, General, G.C. (the light dimmer)

Two (of three) manuals have second touch

Two manuals and pedal have Pizzicato touch

ALL tabs (Horseshoe and back rail) have fully working SAMS (117)  15 pistons/manual, 5 generals, 4 pedal independent. Many toe studs for effects.

The combination action is completely remote controlled from the computer, set AT the console. The only known instance of a jOrgan powered FULLY REMOTE fully functioning combination action....and it WORKS....DAILY!

There is even a 3 digit level indicator for which of the 128 combination levels I'm on, (usually #1) which can be changed on the fly while playing.

There are two MIDI controlled Swells and a Register Crescendo. ALL console controls can be routed/controlled through Cakewalk software so the organ becomes self playing. This is handy when I want to record a tune after the fact without keys and pedals clacking, doorbells ringing, or cats fighting. You STILL here the combination actio move if you listen hard, but you hear that in many old George Wright recordings, too, so what?

18 sampled ranks including separate celestes. 7 tuned percussions (two pianos) ( some percussions with re-it options), all from the finest soundfont stock (various). Rank disposition is standard Wright/WurliTzer with two Solo Tibias in the right chamber (like the Hollywood organ) ranks are carefully terraced and DETUNED to each other to avoid the need to air mix through double digit channels. Strings and Tibias (except the Lieblich Flute) are in selarate chambers for this same reason. Celestes are detuned as much as 12 cents. Better keep the trems goin on those bablies!

400 watts RMS through two large three way 15" Electrovoice cabinets and matching amp (Anything more in my 1800 square foot basement and tinnitus will set in)

I am truly not trying to be facicious here, but what is it that the  additions of fluidsynth and 3.x add for me? (I honestly don't know)

LES KNOLL


     

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Re: GRaham-2.3.4 aint all that bad

by GrahamG :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Les,

One of the joys of being part of this forum is hearing of all the
different things that we do with the technology at our disposal. It's
also a great place to see the differences between people within the
'obsession' of the Pipe Organ world :-). We have these differences
because we're human. I love it!

You're happy using SFZ synth. I'm not. You're happy with one
soundblaster card. I'm not. You have everything that you want and need
from jOrgan 2.4. So what would fluidsynth and 3.x add for you.
Nothing. You don't need anything more than the wonderful setup that
you have created and enjoy every single day. And I think that is
wonderful!

I like to experiment too much...

Technically, the fluidsynth extension gives my one disposition that
loads everything when I'm using a soundfont. The integration within
the jOrgan disposition gives me one central place to make the changes
that I want, and use all those 96 ranks in the soundfont if I want to
without loading another instance of anything. I'm still experimenting
with what I want from a virtual Organ, and I know I'd never be happy
with what you have. I like to experiment and change things too much...
I'd like two 21' touch screens, four manuals, 20 toe pistons, 30
memory pistons, and a 32 note pedal board. I'd like dispositions for
Classical Organs, Theatre Organs, historical mimic dispositions of
real organs... I'm 34, have two young children, live in a country with
an ultra high crime rate but wonderful sunshine, I play Piano,
Classical Organ, Theatre Organ, Guitar, use LinuxSampler, Native
Instrument's Kontakt (with a full orchesta at my disposal!), jOrgan,
Hauptwerk, MyOrgan, Qsynth, and Miditzer, in WindowsXP, Puppy Linux,
and Ubuntu. I've created my own MIDI connection boards using PIC
micro-controllers, have created my own skins for jOrgan using photos
of the Organ at Church, and have converted a 30 note pedal board to
MIDI (so just two pedals short of that dream). I use the 3.x
fluidsynth extension. I use the 3.x LinuxSampler extension. I guess
that if I had more time to play with this hobby I'd be compiling my
own versions of Puppy and jOrgan and LinuxSampler and sampling Organs
and creating more Soundfonts and GIG sampels. I love to experiment...

So, back to what I really meant to say... jOrgan 2.4 is stable, very
usable, and a marvelous gift to us from Sven. It's awesome. jOrgan 3.x
gives more options by using the extensions. These options have their
own pros and cons. The fluidsynth extension seems to use less physical
memory on my computer than SFZ does. And when I'm using Linux I can't
use SFZ unless I use it within WINE. So 3.x offers me more options.
It's awesome too, and another marvelous gift from Sven.

I hope I answered your question in here somewhere :-).

All the best

GrahamG
Johannesburg, RSA



On 6/25/08, Les Knoll <steamrocks@...> wrote:

> Graham,
>
> I have a restured 3 manual single bolster TPO console fully MIDI wired and
> runnng 6 MIDI channels to a 1.7 gig single processor with 2 gig of memory
> and ONE Soundblasater soundcard:
>
> What possible advantages would this 3.x/ fluid synth upgrade already give
> me?
>
> I have 2 perfectly functioning instances of SFZ synths with all the ranks
> and polyphony I need. Many I have sampled myself-fully balanced and terraced
>
> Fully operational Swells and Crescendo
>
> Adjustable pistons of every kind and need, Divisional, General, G.C. (the
> light dimmer)
>
> Two (of three) manuals have second touch
>
> Two manuals and pedal have Pizzicato touch
>
> ALL tabs (Horseshoe and back rail) have fully working SAMS (117)  15
> pistons/manual, 5 generals, 4 pedal independent. Many toe studs for effects.
>
> The combination action is completely remote controlled from the computer,
> set AT the console. The only known instance of a jOrgan powered FULLY REMOTE
> fully functioning combination action....and it WORKS....DAILY!
>
> There is even a 3 digit level indicator for which of the 128 combination
> levels I'm on, (usually #1) which can be changed on the fly while playing.
>
> There are two MIDI controlled Swells and a Register Crescendo. ALL console
> controls can be routed/controlled through Cakewalk software so the organ
> becomes self playing. This is handy when I want to record a tune after the
> fact without keys and pedals clacking, doorbells ringing, or cats fighting.
> You STILL here the combination actio move if you listen hard, but you hear
> that in many old George Wright recordings, too, so what?
>
> 18 sampled ranks including separate celestes. 7 tuned percussions (two
> pianos) ( some percussions with re-it options), all from the finest
> soundfont stock (various). Rank disposition is standard Wright/WurliTzer
> with two Solo Tibias in the right chamber (like the Hollywood organ) ranks
> are carefully terraced and DETUNED to each other to avoid the need to air
> mix through double digit channels. Strings and Tibias (except the Lieblich
> Flute) are in selarate chambers for this same reason. Celestes are detuned
> as much as 12 cents. Better keep the trems goin on those bablies!
>
> 400 watts RMS through two large three way 15" Electrovoice cabinets and
> matching amp (Anything more in my 1800 square foot basement and tinnitus
> will set in)
>
> I am truly not trying to be facicious here, but what is it that the
> additions of fluidsynth and 3.x add for me? (I honestly don't know)
>
> LES KNOLL
>
>
>
>
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