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Faxing for FM9
by Karstyn McCoy-2
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I thought I saw a thread on current Faxing options for FM(S)9
recently, but not able to find it. Any recommendations for good outbound only faxing options for use in a FM9 solution? I would consider either a plugin or a web based service, just no experience with either. Qty could be about 1,500 per quarter, split into blasts of a few at a time to 100 or so at once. This is mainly a Windows environment, but there are Macs as well, however only one or two stations would need to be setup to send the faxs. Thanks! -- --Karstyn _______________________________________________ FMPexperts mailing list FMPexperts@... http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au |
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Re: Faxing for FM9
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On 7/15/2008 7:51 AM, "Karstyn McCoy" <karstyn@...> wrote:
> I thought I saw a thread on current Faxing options for FM(S)9 > recently, but not able to find it. > > Any recommendations for good outbound only faxing options for use in a > FM9 solution? I would consider either a plugin or a web based service, > just no experience with either. > > Qty could be about 1,500 per quarter, split into blasts of a few at a > time to 100 or so at once. > > This is mainly a Windows environment, but there are Macs as well, > however only one or two stations would need to be setup to send the > faxs. > > Thanks! > > -- > --Karstyn Check out efax... http://www.efax.com/en/efax/twa/page/homePagePlus Also pagesender app for the mac.... http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/14537 -- Thanks - RevDave Cool @ hosting4days . com [db-lists] _______________________________________________ FMPexperts mailing list FMPexperts@... http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au |
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Re: Faxing for FM9
by Karstyn McCoy-2
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Thanks Kevin.
Can I ask why you still need the SMTPit plugin? --Karstyn On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Kevin Frank <kfrank@...> wrote: > Hi Karstyn, > > There was a discussion on this list on 29 May 2008 with the subject heading > "Faxing software" you may want to review. > > My posting in that thread was... > > ======================================================== > > At 11:25 AM 5/29/2008, Jonathan Fletcher wrote: >> >> 4SightFax is a GREAT product--don't get me wrong--but an online fax >> service doesn't require any additional software, > > Completely agree. I recently built a "fax and email blaster" for a > university client, and we're using www.greenfax.com. For faxing we use > SMTPit to email a PDF + a list of fax numbers to Greenfax. > > -- Kevin > > > At 07:51 AM 7/15/2008, Karstyn McCoy wrote: >> >> I thought I saw a thread on current Faxing options for FM(S)9 >> recently, but not able to find it. >> >> Any recommendations for good outbound only faxing options for use in a >> FM9 solution? I would consider either a plugin or a web based service, >> just no experience with either. >> >> Qty could be about 1,500 per quarter, split into blasts of a few at a >> time to 100 or so at once. >> >> This is mainly a Windows environment, but there are Macs as well, >> however only one or two stations would need to be setup to send the >> faxs. > > > =========================================================== > Kevin Frank & Associates Email: kfrank@... > Voice: 707-822-6414 Web: www.kevinfrank.com > =========================================================== > FileMaker 7 & 8 Certified Developer > _______________________________________________ > FMPexperts mailing list > FMPexperts@... > http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au > FMPexperts mailing list FMPexperts@... http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au |
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Re: Faxing for FM9
by Tim 'Webko' Booth
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On 17/07/2008, at 1:06 PM, Karstyn McCoy wrote: > Thanks Kevin. > > Can I ask why you still need the SMTPit plugin? Because he's effectively emailing it to a email->fax gateway - thus requiring something to send the email... Cheers webko > > > --Karstyn > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Kevin Frank <kfrank@...> > wrote: >> Hi Karstyn, >> >> There was a discussion on this list on 29 May 2008 with the subject >> heading >> "Faxing software" you may want to review. >> >> My posting in that thread was... >> >> ======================================================== >> >> At 11:25 AM 5/29/2008, Jonathan Fletcher wrote: >>> >>> 4SightFax is a GREAT product--don't get me wrong--but an online fax >>> service doesn't require any additional software, >> >> Completely agree. I recently built a "fax and email blaster" for a >> university client, and we're using www.greenfax.com. For faxing we >> use >> SMTPit to email a PDF + a list of fax numbers to Greenfax. >> >> -- Kevin >> >> >> At 07:51 AM 7/15/2008, Karstyn McCoy wrote: >>> >>> I thought I saw a thread on current Faxing options for FM(S)9 >>> recently, but not able to find it. >>> >>> Any recommendations for good outbound only faxing options for use >>> in a >>> FM9 solution? I would consider either a plugin or a web based >>> service, >>> just no experience with either. >>> >>> Qty could be about 1,500 per quarter, split into blasts of a few >>> at a >>> time to 100 or so at once. >>> >>> This is mainly a Windows environment, but there are Macs as well, >>> however only one or two stations would need to be setup to send the >>> faxs. >> >> >> =========================================================== >> Kevin Frank & Associates Email: kfrank@... >> Voice: 707-822-6414 Web: www.kevinfrank.com >> =========================================================== >> FileMaker 7 & 8 Certified Developer >> _______________________________________________ >> FMPexperts mailing list >> FMPexperts@... >> http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au >> > _______________________________________________ > FMPexperts mailing list > FMPexperts@... > http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au Tim 'Webko' Booth :: Niche IT Pty Ltd, Sydney, Australia [e] tim@... :: [m] 0418 993 306 _______________________________________________ FMPexperts mailing list FMPexperts@... http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au |
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Re: Faxing for FM9
by Karstyn McCoy-2
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Thanks Tim.
I may need a little more hand holding here - why can't the Send Mail script step send the email to the email-> fax gateway? I'm sure I'm missing something simple here. --Karstyn On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Tim 'Webko' Booth <tim@...> wrote: > > On 17/07/2008, at 1:06 PM, Karstyn McCoy wrote: > >> Thanks Kevin. >> >> Can I ask why you still need the SMTPit plugin? > > Because he's effectively emailing it to a email->fax gateway - thus > requiring something to send the email... > > Cheers > > webko >> >> >> --Karstyn >> >> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Kevin Frank <kfrank@...> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Karstyn, >>> >>> There was a discussion on this list on 29 May 2008 with the subject >>> heading >>> "Faxing software" you may want to review. >>> >>> My posting in that thread was... >>> >>> ======================================================== >>> >>> At 11:25 AM 5/29/2008, Jonathan Fletcher wrote: >>>> >>>> 4SightFax is a GREAT product--don't get me wrong--but an online fax >>>> service doesn't require any additional software, >>> >>> Completely agree. I recently built a "fax and email blaster" for a >>> university client, and we're using www.greenfax.com. For faxing we use >>> SMTPit to email a PDF + a list of fax numbers to Greenfax. >>> >>> -- Kevin >>> >>> >>> At 07:51 AM 7/15/2008, Karstyn McCoy wrote: >>>> >>>> I thought I saw a thread on current Faxing options for FM(S)9 >>>> recently, but not able to find it. >>>> >>>> Any recommendations for good outbound only faxing options for use in a >>>> FM9 solution? I would consider either a plugin or a web based service, >>>> just no experience with either. >>>> >>>> Qty could be about 1,500 per quarter, split into blasts of a few at a >>>> time to 100 or so at once. >>>> >>>> This is mainly a Windows environment, but there are Macs as well, >>>> however only one or two stations would need to be setup to send the >>>> faxs. >>> >>> >>> =========================================================== >>> Kevin Frank & Associates Email: kfrank@... >>> Voice: 707-822-6414 Web: www.kevinfrank.com >>> =========================================================== >>> FileMaker 7 & 8 Certified Developer >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FMPexperts mailing list >>> FMPexperts@... >>> http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> FMPexperts mailing list >> FMPexperts@... >> http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au > > Tim 'Webko' Booth :: Niche IT Pty Ltd, Sydney, Australia > [e] tim@... :: [m] 0418 993 306 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > FMPexperts mailing list > FMPexperts@... > http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au > FMPexperts mailing list FMPexperts@... http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au |
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Re: tables and files (newbie)
by Seth Pomeroy II - Bus. 717-591-5555
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hi jim,
my personal opinion is that it's probably a matter of personal preference - FM can be designed and utilized in any fashion that you many need - meaning, that you can have all seperate tables and/or files in any manner that best suit your needs as long as you achieve the same result - years ago, FM didn't have tables so you would have to create a file (this was called a document in FM jargon) and relate it to whatever file you needed - now, FM has tables and you can place as many tables in one file that you wish - i have a "contacts" file and my tables in that file are notes, addresses, picts, documents, etc because it's easier to keep them catagorized all in one file - i also have a "customer's file" file and i have tables called notes, picts, documents, etc, etc - for me, this has eliminiated the need for over probably 30+ files - again, probably a matter of preference and the level of comlexity in the end solution -seth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Guinness" <jmg738@...> To: <fmpexperts@...> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:16 AM Subject: tables and files (newbie) > Hi, > > Filemaker's docs seem pretty equivocal about whether to put tables in > separate files or all in one file, and I'm trying to understand this issue > better. > > I'm designing a fairly simple app (my first in FM, though I've done a lot > of non-FM work) which, for the time being at least, is pretty much a flat > file. There are a handful of files that hold looked-up data and the like, > but I never expect this to get very complex. > > I've put my different tables in separate files because it seems natural to > do so and because I don't know of any reason not to. I notice David Kachel > in his "White Paper for FMP Novices" strongly recommends putting all > tables in one file whenever possible ... though he seems to be writing to > developers (which I'm currently not, being an ex-developer who's writing > an app for a new business venture.) > > Anyway, when and why is it preferable to put tables in one file rather > than each table in its own file? I'm just getting used to how FM "thinks" > and I like what I'm understanding of it, but this piece is still eluding > me. > > Thanks in advance. > > Jim Guinness > _______________________________________________ > FMPexperts mailing list > FMPexperts@... > http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au > _______________________________________________ FMPexperts mailing list FMPexperts@... http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au |
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RE: tables and files (newbie)
by VanBuskirk, Patricia
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Hi Jim!
I am still getting used to the new FileMaker's ability to utilize tables rather than separate files also. What I have found to be a big help in this process (design to finish) has been the "FileMaker Pro 9 The Missing Manual" by Geoff Coffey & Susan Prosser. It walks you through how to design a relational database in FMP, how to set up the tables/fields, etc. I got mine on Amazon for a fairly reasonable price. Trish -----Original Message----- From: fmpexperts-bounces@... [mailto:fmpexperts-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Jim Guinness Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:17 AM To: fmpexperts@... Subject: tables and files (newbie) Hi, Filemaker's docs seem pretty equivocal about whether to put tables in separate files or all in one file, and I'm trying to understand this issue better. I'm designing a fairly simple app (my first in FM, though I've done a lot of non-FM work) which, for the time being at least, is pretty much a flat file. There are a handful of files that hold looked-up data and the like, but I never expect this to get very complex. I've put my different tables in separate files because it seems natural to do so and because I don't know of any reason not to. I notice David Kachel in his "White Paper for FMP Novices" strongly recommends putting all tables in one file whenever possible ... though he seems to be writing to developers (which I'm currently not, being an ex-developer who's writing an app for a new business venture.) Anyway, when and why is it preferable to put tables in one file rather than each table in its own file? I'm just getting used to how FM "thinks" and I like what I'm understanding of it, but this piece is still eluding me. Thanks in advance. Jim Guinness _______________________________________________ FMPexperts mailing list FMPexperts@... http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au _______________________________________________ FMPexperts mailing list FMPexperts@... http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au |
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Re: tables and files (newbie)
by Ken Newell
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JIm,
As you noted FM does not really care 1 File 1 Table or 1 File Many tables. So you need to review your needs and possible future direction before deciding. Again you don't have to decide 100% of that as if needed you can merge and break files as needed with a little work and planning. Some pros for 1 file • Simplified security model. No need to maintain accounts across multi-file. Of course if using external authentication this is not an issue • Simplified backup (only need to backup one file) Some cons for 1 file • File size could become to backup or move depending on available media to do this. Of course with lower prices an external hard drive is not as expensive as it once was. Some pros for many files • Easier to swap in and out files Some cons for many files • If later moving to a server could hit a physical limit on the number of files. I'm sure there are many others but I have not seen any definitive list as to pros and cons and these were just some quick thoughts off the top of my head. Also while investigating a design you might want to review the separation model to see if that approach might make sense for what you are planning to do. One other thing to keep in mind is that if you are going to put on a FMS there is a limit to the number of files that a single server can host. IIRC the limit is 125 and has been that way since pre-FM7 days. Another thing to keep in mind is the question "Are multiple developers going to be working on the project at the same time". This might lead you break up into multiple files to aid the development process. Generally, when doing small things I tend to go to a single file with multiple tables. When doing larger projects I go with multiple files that contain multiple tables that is grouped by purpose that can stand on it's own legs and work with other modules as part of a bigger system. My FM6 re-design went from 90+ files to 15 files. Hope that helps you think through your design. Ken Newell FileMaker 7 Certified Developer Programmer/Analyst newell@... (858) 822-4348 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Objects in the mirror are closer than they appear. On Jul 16, 2008, at 9:16 PM, Jim Guinness wrote: > Hi, > > Filemaker's docs seem pretty equivocal about whether to put tables > in separate files or all in one file, and I'm trying to understand > this issue better. > > I'm designing a fairly simple app (my first in FM, though I've done > a lot of non-FM work) which, for the time being at least, is pretty > much a flat file. There are a handful of files that hold looked-up > data and the like, but I never expect this to get very complex. > > I've put my different tables in separate files because it seems > natural to do so and because I don't know of any reason not to. I > notice David Kachel in his "White Paper for FMP Novices" strongly > recommends putting all tables in one file whenever possible ... > though he seems to be writing to developers (which I'm currently > not, being an ex-developer who's writing an app for a new business > venture.) > > Anyway, when and why is it preferable to put tables in one file > rather than each table in its own file? I'm just getting used to how > FM "thinks" and I like what I'm understanding of it, but this piece > is still eluding me. > > Thanks in advance. > > Jim Guinness > _______________________________________________ > FMPexperts mailing list > FMPexperts@... > http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au > _______________________________________________ FMPexperts mailing list FMPexperts@... http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au |
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Re: tables and files (newbie)
by kazar
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On 07-17-2008 9:45 AM, Ken Newell wrote:
> JIm, > > As you noted FM does not really care 1 File 1 Table or 1 File Many > tables. > > So you need to review your needs and possible future direction before > deciding. Again you don't have to decide 100% of that as if needed > you can merge and break files as needed with a little work and planning. > > Some pros for 1 file > • Simplified security model. No need to maintain accounts across > multi-file. Of course if using external authentication this is not an > issue > • Simplified backup (only need to backup one file) > • Unified view of all relationships in the Relationship Graph kazar -- Datatude, Ltd. -- http://www.datatude.net/ strategies & solutions _______________________________________________ FMPexperts mailing list FMPexperts@... http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au |
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Re: tables and files (newbie)
by Chuck_LBLP
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kazar wrote:
> Unified view of all relationships in the Relationship Graph Don't underestimate the value of this point. Good catch, Ilyse. Chuck fmpexperts@... writes: >On 07-17-2008 9:45 AM, Ken Newell wrote: >> JIm, >> >> As you noted FM does not really care 1 File 1 Table or 1 File Many >> tables. >> >> So you need to review your needs and possible future direction before >> deciding. Again you don't have to decide 100% of that as if needed >> you can merge and break files as needed with a little work and planning. >> >> Some pros for 1 file >> Simplified security model. No need to maintain accounts across >> multi-file. Of course if using external authentication this is not an >> issue >> Simplified backup (only need to backup one file) >> > > Unified view of all relationships in the Relationship Graph > >kazar > >-- >Datatude, Ltd. -- http://www.datatude.net/ >strategies & solutions > >_______________________________________________ >FMPexperts mailing list >FMPexperts@... >http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au _______________________________________________ FMPexperts mailing list FMPexperts@... http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au |
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Re: tables and files (newbie)
by Ken Newell
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Another pro for a single file
• Use Of Variables Scope of $$ is limited to the file. Ken Newell FileMaker 7 Certified Developer Programmer/Analyst newell@... (858) 822-4348 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Objects in the mirror are closer than they appear. On Jul 17, 2008, at 10:47 AM, cdyer wrote: > kazar wrote: >> • Unified view of all relationships in the Relationship Graph > > Don't underestimate the value of this point. > Good catch, Ilyse. > Chuck > > fmpexperts@... writes: >> On 07-17-2008 9:45 AM, Ken Newell wrote: >>> JIm, >>> >>> As you noted FM does not really care 1 File 1 Table or 1 File Many >>> tables. >>> >>> So you need to review your needs and possible future direction >>> before >>> deciding. Again you don't have to decide 100% of that as if needed >>> you can merge and break files as needed with a little work and >>> planning. >>> >>> Some pros for 1 file >>> • Simplified security model. No need to maintain accounts across >>> multi-file. Of course if using external authentication this is >>> not an >>> issue >>> • Simplified backup (only need to backup one file) >>> >> >> • Unified view of all relationships in the Relationship Graph >> >> kazar >> >> -- >> Datatude, Ltd. -- http://www.datatude.net/ >> strategies & solutions >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FMPexperts mailing list >> FMPexperts@... >> http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au > > > _______________________________________________ > FMPexperts mailing list > FMPexperts@... > http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au > _______________________________________________ FMPexperts mailing list FMPexperts@... http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au |
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Re: tables and files (newbie)
by kazar
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On 07-17-2008 2:57 PM, Ken Newell wrote:
> Another pro for a single file > • Use Of Variables Scope of $$ is limited to the file. > > > and another one I just thought of: • you cannot run a script with full privileges in an external file. kazar -- Datatude, Ltd. -- http://www.datatude.net/ strategies & solutions _______________________________________________ FMPexperts mailing list FMPexperts@... http://lists.ironclad.net.au/listinfo.cgi/fmpexperts-ironclad.net.au |
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Re: Faxing for FM9
by Karstyn McCoy-2
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Thanks Kevin.
More features I can understand and appreciate! Just wanted to make sure that was the main reason, and that you could get by without the plugin if needed. --Karstyn On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Kevin Frank <kfrank@...> wrote: > At 08:23 PM 7/16/2008 |
