FC5 installation

[imethods]

Hi Forum

I tried different alternatives to install FC5 on my hosted site
without any success.  The installation worked on my local development
accessing the installation procedure as http://localhost/farcry.

My service provider provides my ftp site at location C:\domains
\mydomainname.com\.  The site root points to c:\domains
\mydomainname.com\wwwroot\. This I cannot change, but I can access C:
\domains\mydomainname.com\.

My ISP uses IIS and Helm which allows my to setup virtual
directories.  However if I create virtual directories, it does not
allow me to use and C:\directory reference, but only directories
visible under C:\domains\mydomainname.com\. I presume this is OK, but
for the life of me cannot cat farcry further than line 52 <cfimport
taglib="/farcry/core/tags/admin" prefix="admin" /> in webtop/
index.cfm.  The error returned included " The following error was
encountered: C:\farcry\core\tags\admin. Ensure that you have specified
a valid tag library."

Question:

1. Can FC5 be installed via remote access to the site i.e.
http://www.mydomainname.com/farcry or has it to be installed using
http://localhost/farcry?
2. Does this configuration present problems installing farcry?  My
CFIDE mapping and JRunScript virtual directories are preconfigured to
the appropriate C:\"locations"
3. I there any other setting I can change or code to alter which might
solve the problem.

Any help I can get will help tremendously.  I really prefer to get FC5
going and not to revert to other CMS systems as the rest of the
development is CF and java based with flex/actionScript.

Regards

Hennie


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[modius]

On Jun 17, 8:04 am, imethods <imeth...@...> wrote:

> My service provider provides my ftp site at location C:\domains
> \mydomainname.com\.  The site root points to c:\domains
> \mydomainname.com\wwwroot\. This I cannot change, but I can access C:
> \domains\mydomainname.com\.
>
> My ISP uses IIS and Helm which allows my to setup virtual
> directories.  However if I create virtual directories, it does not
> allow me to use and C:\directory reference, but only directories
> visible under C:\domains\mydomainname.com\. I presume this is OK, but
> for the life of me cannot cat farcry further than line 52 <cfimport
> taglib="/farcry/core/tags/admin" prefix="admin" /> in webtop/
> index.cfm.  The error returned included " The following error was
> encountered: C:\farcry\core\tags\admin. Ensure that you have specified
> a valid tag library."

Have you copied the ./farcry/* directory tree into the webroot of your
application?  Can you reference the webtop as http://youdomain.com/farcry/core/webtop?

Make sure your shared host does *not* have an existing CFIDE mapping
for "/" or for "/farcry" -- either of these will prevent the
installation from working.

> Question:
> 1. Can FC5 be installed via remote access to the site i.e.http://www.mydomainname.com/farcryor has it to be installed usinghttp://localhost/farcry?

You need to modify the security provision in Application.cfm of the ./
install directory -- but yes.  Note you haven't encountered this yet
-- you haven't actually got a correct file install in place just yet.

> 2. Does this configuration present problems installing farcry?  My
> CFIDE mapping and JRunScript virtual directories are preconfigured to
> the appropriate C:\"locations"

FarCry 5.0 is specifically designed to work in the environment you
have described.

What CFIDE mapping?  There should be *no* CFIDE mappings required for
your specific mode of installation.

> 3. I there any other setting I can change or code to alter which might
> solve the problem.

So far you haven't really encountered an issue with FarCry -- you are
still struggling with being to address the code properly.

* remove any "/farcry" or "/" mapping from CFIDE
* remove all virtuals in IIS
* copy the farcry code base into the webroot of your project
* call it by referencing http://youdomain.com/farcry/core/webtop

Report any errors to this forum :)

-- geoff
http://www.daemon.com.au/
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[imethods]

Hi Geoff

Q: Have you copied the ./farcry/*...
Yes I extracted the zip file to the wwwroot location.

Q: Make sure your shared host does *not* have...
I cannot say for sure as I have no CF Administration rights.   Upon
request that they install facry for me, they responded that they do
not support farcry, so I can only presume there is not other instance
running on the server.  Will ask the question if it exist before going
any further.

Q:What CFIDE mapping?...
This seems to be the standard CFIDE mapping that is created once CF is
installed.

Regards
Hennie



On Jun 17, 12:35 am, modius <mod...@...> wrote:

> On Jun 17, 8:04 am, imethods <imeth...@...> wrote:
>
> > My service provider provides my ftp site at location C:\domains
> > \mydomainname.com\.  The site root points to c:\domains
> > \mydomainname.com\wwwroot\. This I cannot change, but I can access C:
> > \domains\mydomainname.com\.
>
> > My ISP uses IIS and Helm which allows my to setup virtual
> > directories.  However if I create virtual directories, it does not
> > allow me to use and C:\directory reference, but only directories
> > visible under C:\domains\mydomainname.com\. I presume this is OK, but
> > for the life of me cannot cat farcry further than line 52 <cfimport
> > taglib="/farcry/core/tags/admin" prefix="admin" /> in webtop/
> > index.cfm.  The error returned included " The following error was
> > encountered: C:\farcry\core\tags\admin. Ensure that you have specified
> > a valid tag library."
>
> Have you copied the ./farcry/* directory tree into the webroot of your
> application?  Can you reference the webtop ashttp://youdomain.com/farcry/core/webtop?
>
> Make sure your shared host does *not* have an existing CFIDE mapping
> for "/" or for "/farcry" -- either of these will prevent the
> installation from working.
>
> > Question:
> > 1. Can FC5 be installed via remote access to the site i.e.http://www.mydomainname.com/farcryorhas it to be installed usinghttp://localhost/farcry?
>
> You need to modify the security provision in Application.cfm of the ./
> install directory -- but yes.  Note you haven't encountered this yet
> -- you haven't actually got a correct file install in place just yet.
>
> > 2. Does this configuration present problems installing farcry?  My
> > CFIDE mapping and JRunScript virtual directories are preconfigured to
> > the appropriate C:\"locations"
>
> FarCry 5.0 is specifically designed to work in the environment you
> have described.
>
> What CFIDE mapping?  There should be *no* CFIDE mappings required for
> your specific mode of installation.
>
> > 3. I there any other setting I can change or code to alter which might
> > solve the problem.
>
> So far you haven't really encountered an issue with FarCry -- you are
> still struggling with being to address the code properly.
>
> * remove any "/farcry" or "/" mapping from CFIDE
> * remove all virtuals in IIS
> * copy the farcry code base into the webroot of your project
> * call it by referencinghttp://youdomain.com/farcry/core/webtop
>
> Report any errors to this forum :)
>
> -- geoffhttp://www.daemon.com.au/

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[imethods]

Hi Geoff

Is there any way in which one could make changes to the latest install
to overcome the problem should / or /facry mappings exist?

Regards
Hennie

On Jun 17, 12:35 am, modius <mod...@...> wrote:

> On Jun 17, 8:04 am, imethods <imeth...@...> wrote:
>
> > My service provider provides my ftp site at location C:\domains
> > \mydomainname.com\.  The site root points to c:\domains
> > \mydomainname.com\wwwroot\. This I cannot change, but I can access C:
> > \domains\mydomainname.com\.
>
> > My ISP uses IIS and Helm which allows my to setup virtual
> > directories.  However if I create virtual directories, it does not
> > allow me to use and C:\directory reference, but only directories
> > visible under C:\domains\mydomainname.com\. I presume this is OK, but
> > for the life of me cannot cat farcry further than line 52 <cfimport
> > taglib="/farcry/core/tags/admin" prefix="admin" /> in webtop/
> > index.cfm.  The error returned included " The following error was
> > encountered: C:\farcry\core\tags\admin. Ensure that you have specified
> > a valid tag library."
>
> Have you copied the ./farcry/* directory tree into the webroot of your
> application?  Can you reference the webtop ashttp://youdomain.com/farcry/core/webtop?
>
> Make sure your shared host does *not* have an existing CFIDE mapping
> for "/" or for "/farcry" -- either of these will prevent the
> installation from working.
>
> > Question:
> > 1. Can FC5 be installed via remote access to the site i.e.http://www.mydomainname.com/farcryorhas it to be installed usinghttp://localhost/farcry?
>
> You need to modify the security provision in Application.cfm of the ./
> install directory -- but yes.  Note you haven't encountered this yet
> -- you haven't actually got a correct file install in place just yet.
>
> > 2. Does this configuration present problems installing farcry?  My
> > CFIDE mapping and JRunScript virtual directories are preconfigured to
> > the appropriate C:\"locations"
>
> FarCry 5.0 is specifically designed to work in the environment you
> have described.
>
> What CFIDE mapping?  There should be *no* CFIDE mappings required for
> your specific mode of installation.
>
> > 3. I there any other setting I can change or code to alter which might
> > solve the problem.
>
> So far you haven't really encountered an issue with FarCry -- you are
> still struggling with being to address the code properly.
>
> * remove any "/farcry" or "/" mapping from CFIDE
> * remove all virtuals in IIS
> * copy the farcry code base into the webroot of your project
> * call it by referencinghttp://youdomain.com/farcry/core/webtop
>
> Report any errors to this forum :)
>
> -- geoffhttp://www.daemon.com.au/

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[modius]

On Jun 17, 9:44 am, imethods <imeth...@...> wrote:
> Is there any way in which one could make changes to the latest install
> to overcome the problem should / or /facry mappings exist?

Unfortunately this is a CF limitation.  ColdFusion looks at the CFIDE
mappings first before looking at references relative to the webroot.
If you are relying on the application server finding ./yourwebroot/
farcry then it cannot have "/" or "/farcry" in place inside the CFIDE.

In fact I'd go so far as saying that a "/" CFIDE mapping on its own is
just pure mal-practice in any event -- it effectively blocks you from
referencing anything as /mycodebase within ColdFusion without having
its own dedicated CFIDE mapping.

-- geoff
http://www.daemon.com.au/
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[Mat Bryant]

By the sounds of your error...
/farcry is being mapped by ColdFusion to C:/farcry

This either means your shared host has a "/" CFIDE Mapping or a "/
farcry" CFIDE Mapping pointing to the C:/ drive

Can you confirm this is not the case.

Kind regards

--
-- Matthew Bryant
Product Development Manager
Daemon Internet Consultants
Adobe Solutions Partner
http://www.daemon.com.au/
p. 02 8302 4600
f. 02 9380 4204





On 17/06/2008, at 9:44 AM, imethods wrote:

>
> Hi Geoff
>
> Is there any way in which one could make changes to the latest install
> to overcome the problem should / or /facry mappings exist?
>
> Regards
> Hennie
>
> On Jun 17, 12:35 am, modius <mod...@...> wrote:
>> On Jun 17, 8:04 am, imethods <imeth...@...> wrote:
>>
>>> My service provider provides my ftp site at location C:\domains
>>> \mydomainname.com\.  The site root points to c:\domains
>>> \mydomainname.com\wwwroot\. This I cannot change, but I can access  
>>> C:
>>> \domains\mydomainname.com\.
>>
>>> My ISP uses IIS and Helm which allows my to setup virtual
>>> directories.  However if I create virtual directories, it does not
>>> allow me to use and C:\directory reference, but only directories
>>> visible under C:\domains\mydomainname.com\. I presume this is OK,  
>>> but
>>> for the life of me cannot cat farcry further than line 52 <cfimport
>>> taglib="/farcry/core/tags/admin" prefix="admin" /> in webtop/
>>> index.cfm.  The error returned included " The following error was
>>> encountered: C:\farcry\core\tags\admin. Ensure that you have  
>>> specified
>>> a valid tag library."
>>
>> Have you copied the ./farcry/* directory tree into the webroot of  
>> your
>> application?  Can you reference the webtop ashttp://youdomain.com/farcry/core/webtop?
>>
>> Make sure your shared host does *not* have an existing CFIDE mapping
>> for "/" or for "/farcry" -- either of these will prevent the
>> installation from working.
>>
>>> Question:
>>> 1. Can FC5 be installed via remote access to the site i.e.http://www.mydomainname.com/farcryorhas 
>>>  it to be installed usinghttp://localhost/farcry?
>>
>> You need to modify the security provision in Application.cfm of  
>> the ./
>> install directory -- but yes.  Note you haven't encountered this yet
>> -- you haven't actually got a correct file install in place just yet.
>>
>>> 2. Does this configuration present problems installing farcry?  My
>>> CFIDE mapping and JRunScript virtual directories are preconfigured  
>>> to
>>> the appropriate C:\"locations"
>>
>> FarCry 5.0 is specifically designed to work in the environment you
>> have described.
>>
>> What CFIDE mapping?  There should be *no* CFIDE mappings required for
>> your specific mode of installation.
>>
>>> 3. I there any other setting I can change or code to alter which  
>>> might
>>> solve the problem.
>>
>> So far you haven't really encountered an issue with FarCry -- you are
>> still struggling with being to address the code properly.
>>
>> * remove any "/farcry" or "/" mapping from CFIDE
>> * remove all virtuals in IIS
>> * copy the farcry code base into the webroot of your project
>> * call it by referencinghttp://youdomain.com/farcry/core/webtop
>>
>> Report any errors to this forum :)
>>
>> -- geoffhttp://www.daemon.com.au/
> >

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[imethods]

Not being a CF guru does not make this very easy.

Could I maybe send you some details via e-mail to logon to the site
administration interface to see if you dont find something obscure?


On Jun 17, 1:56 am, modius <mod...@...> wrote:

> On Jun 17, 9:44 am, imethods <imeth...@...> wrote:
>
> > Is there any way in which one could make changes to the latest install
> > to overcome the problem should / or /facry mappings exist?
>
> Unfortunately this is a CF limitation.  ColdFusion looks at the CFIDE
> mappings first before looking at references relative to the webroot.
> If you are relying on the application server finding ./yourwebroot/
> farcry then it cannot have "/" or "/farcry" in place inside the CFIDE.
>
> In fact I'd go so far as saying that a "/" CFIDE mapping on its own is
> just pure mal-practice in any event -- it effectively blocks you from
> referencing anything as /mycodebase within ColdFusion without having
> its own dedicated CFIDE mapping.
>
> -- geoffhttp://www.daemon.com.au/

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[imethods]

Hi Matthew

Yes this is a shared hosting environment and I presume this may be the
case.  It is 02h00 here is SA and I will have to take it up when the
rest of this part of the world wakes up.

Would this mean that CF gives priority to CF mappings over and above
the fact that the actual directory exist in the root, or does it first
checks out the root and if it does not exist then resolve to the
mapping?

What would happen if I renamed farcry to fortress and replaced all
occurrences of farcry in the code with fortress?


On Jun 17, 1:59 am, Matthew Bryant <mbry...@...> wrote:

> By the sounds of your error...
> /farcry is being mapped by ColdFusion to C:/farcry
>
> This either means your shared host has a "/" CFIDE Mapping or a "/
> farcry" CFIDE Mapping pointing to the C:/ drive
>
> Can you confirm this is not the case.
>
> Kind regards
>
> --
> -- Matthew Bryant
> Product Development Manager
> Daemon Internet Consultants
> Adobe Solutions Partnerhttp://www.daemon.com.au/
> p. 02 8302 4600
> f. 02 9380 4204
>
> On 17/06/2008, at 9:44 AM, imethods wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Geoff
>
> > Is there any way in which one could make changes to the latest install
> > to overcome the problem should / or /facry mappings exist?
>
> > Regards
> > Hennie
>
> > On Jun 17, 12:35 am, modius <mod...@...> wrote:
> >> On Jun 17, 8:04 am, imethods <imeth...@...> wrote:
>
> >>> My service provider provides my ftp site at location C:\domains
> >>> \mydomainname.com\.  The site root points to c:\domains
> >>> \mydomainname.com\wwwroot\. This I cannot change, but I can access
> >>> C:
> >>> \domains\mydomainname.com\.
>
> >>> My ISP uses IIS and Helm which allows my to setup virtual
> >>> directories.  However if I create virtual directories, it does not
> >>> allow me to use and C:\directory reference, but only directories
> >>> visible under C:\domains\mydomainname.com\. I presume this is OK,
> >>> but
> >>> for the life of me cannot cat farcry further than line 52 <cfimport
> >>> taglib="/farcry/core/tags/admin" prefix="admin" /> in webtop/
> >>> index.cfm.  The error returned included " The following error was
> >>> encountered: C:\farcry\core\tags\admin. Ensure that you have
> >>> specified
> >>> a valid tag library."
>
> >> Have you copied the ./farcry/* directory tree into the webroot of
> >> your
> >> application?  Can you reference the webtop ashttp://youdomain.com/farcry/core/webtop?
>
> >> Make sure your shared host does *not* have an existing CFIDE mapping
> >> for "/" or for "/farcry" -- either of these will prevent the
> >> installation from working.
>
> >>> Question:
> >>> 1. Can FC5 be installed via remote access to the site i.e.http://www.mydomainname.com/farcryorhas
> >>>  it to be installed usinghttp://localhost/farcry?
>
> >> You need to modify the security provision in Application.cfm of
> >> the ./
> >> install directory -- but yes.  Note you haven't encountered this yet
> >> -- you haven't actually got a correct file install in place just yet.
>
> >>> 2. Does this configuration present problems installing farcry?  My
> >>> CFIDE mapping and JRunScript virtual directories are preconfigured
> >>> to
> >>> the appropriate C:\"locations"
>
> >> FarCry 5.0 is specifically designed to work in the environment you
> >> have described.
>
> >> What CFIDE mapping?  There should be *no* CFIDE mappings required for
> >> your specific mode of installation.
>
> >>> 3. I there any other setting I can change or code to alter which
> >>> might
> >>> solve the problem.
>
> >> So far you haven't really encountered an issue with FarCry -- you are
> >> still struggling with being to address the code properly.
>
> >> * remove any "/farcry" or "/" mapping from CFIDE
> >> * remove all virtuals in IIS
> >> * copy the farcry code base into the webroot of your project
> >> * call it by referencinghttp://youdomain.com/farcry/core/webtop
>
> >> Report any errors to this forum :)
>
> >> -- geoffhttp://www.daemon.com.au/

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[modius]

On Jun 17, 10:05 am, imethods <imeth...@...> wrote:
> Not being a CF guru does not make this very easy.
>
> Could I maybe send you some details via e-mail to logon to the site
> administration interface to see if you dont find something obscure?

Would love to help but you cannot really verify anything without
access to the CFIDE administration area.  You will need to confirm
with your host that they do not have a "/" or "/farcry" in place.

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[imethods]

Hi Team

Yes there is an instance of farcry running on the server and therefore
the failure of the install.  Since this is a potential problem most
users are going to have with hosted services where previous
installations exist and considering that the change from 4 to 5 is not
just a simple install and there you go, would it not make sense to
continue with this next generation as fortress or FC5 i.e. removing
all references to farcry including files names.

This will make live so much easier.  Take my situation.  For over a
week now I battled to get it going spending mega hours trying to
figure the problem which after all was a simple setting.  Worst even
is that the site that is using FC4 on the server is too mission
critical and active to attempt a change over and I am stuck.

I have two choices being hack farcry 5 until it admits its no longer
farcry and hope it works or go drupal or joomla toute which defeats
the whole objective why I selected my hosting partner that do
coldfusion and prefer to stick to the environment.

Just some constructive input.

Hope to hear of a solution soon

On Jun 17, 2:18 am, modius <mod...@...> wrote:

> On Jun 17, 10:05 am, imethods <imeth...@...> wrote:
>
> > Not being a CF guru does not make this very easy.
>
> > Could I maybe send you some details via e-mail to logon to the site
> > administration interface to see if you dont find something obscure?
>
> Would love to help but you cannot really verify anything without
> access to the CFIDE administration area.  You will need to confirm
> with your host that they do not have a "/" or "/farcry" in place.
>
> -- geoffhttp://www.daemon.com.au/

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[AJ Mercer]

Anther option would be to talk to your hosting partner to see if they have plans to support Farcry 5 (unhacked; maybe on another server)
Or maybe see if you can find another partner than can accommodate you.

Just ideas.


FAST.hit said they were waiting for the licence to be finalised before they made any decisions about supporting v5
Other hosts maybe doing the same??

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 5:33 AM, imethods <imethods@...> wrote:

Hi Team

Yes there is an instance of farcry running on the server and therefore
the failure of the install.  Since this is a potential problem most
users are going to have with hosted services where previous
installations exist and considering that the change from 4 to 5 is not
just a simple install and there you go, would it not make sense to
continue with this next generation as fortress or FC5 i.e. removing
all references to farcry including files names.

This will make live so much easier.  Take my situation.  For over a
week now I battled to get it going spending mega hours trying to
figure the problem which after all was a simple setting.  Worst even
is that the site that is using FC4 on the server is too mission
critical and active to attempt a change over and I am stuck.

I have two choices being hack farcry 5 until it admits its no longer
farcry and hope it works or go drupal or joomla toute which defeats
the whole objective why I selected my hosting partner that do
coldfusion and prefer to stick to the environment.

Just some constructive input.

Hope to hear of a solution soon

On Jun 17, 2:18 am, modius <mod...@...> wrote:
> On Jun 17, 10:05 am, imethods <imeth...@...> wrote:
>
> > Not being a CF guru does not make this very easy.
>
> > Could I maybe send you some details via e-mail to logon to the site
> > administration interface to see if you dont find something obscure?
>
> Would love to help but you cannot really verify anything without
> access to the CFIDE administration area.  You will need to confirm
> with your host that they do not have a "/" or "/farcry" in place.
>

> -- geoffhttp://www.daemon.com.au/

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