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EOS travel setup (flash question, 70-300 DO?)
by david-36
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The family (and I) are going to Orlando this fall. Disneyworld, Epcot
and all that family oriented fun that central Florida offers. With the two small kids I need to get a lens that is substantially less heavy and bulky for my (soon to have) 30D than my 70-200 f2.8. I'm seriously considering the 70-300 DO lens. Has anyone had any real world experience with it? The reviews tend to imply that it's great or that it is awful and expensive. In addition I have to get another flash, I'm looking at the Sigma 500 Super ... instead of the 580EX. I don't need the extra guide number and I want to put the difference in money towards a new wide prime lens maybe a 20mm. The kit I plan on having while away will be: 30D 50mm f1.8 (light and fast for indoors) new flash new 70-xxx portable zoom 28-105 mm 18-55 EF-S kit lens 100mm f2.8 macro (back at hotel room) monopod (back at hotel room) bean bag I'm staying away from EF-S lenses, I don't see them as a long term investment. Am I missing anything? or am I off base with carrying a good size kit into the park? Can you bring in a camera? thx in advance david * **** ******* *********************************************************** * For list instructions, including unsubscribe, see: * http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/eos_list.htm *********************************************************** |
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Re: EOS travel setup (flash question, 70-300 DO?)
by James B.Davis
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:03:40 -0400, david <bear@...> wrote/replied to:
>I'm staying away from EF-S lenses, I don't see them as a long term >investment. > >Am I missing anything? or am I off base with carrying a good size kit >into the park? Can you bring in a camera? Yes I think you're crazy carrying more than one lens and body there. Take the 28-105 and enjoy yourself with your family. I took my 10d and 28-135 to Tokyo Disney Park and it was a pain in the shoulder and back. I was always having to be careful not to lose it on a ride, or forget it when having lunch, or get it stolen, etc. I would not do it again. Instead, a small pocket digital camera would be great. -- Jim Davis, Owner, Eastern Beaver Company: http://easternbeaver.com/ Motorcycle Relay Kits, Modulator Kits, Powerlet, Centech, Posi-Lock, Parts. 1988 K100RS SE ABS in Japan. 1991 ST1100 in America. STOC#6327, IBMWR, KBMW * **** ******* *********************************************************** * For list instructions, including unsubscribe, see: * http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/eos_list.htm *********************************************************** |
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Re: EOS travel setup (flash question, 70-300 DO?)
by Kenneth Sarno
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On Oct 22, 2006, at 6:03 PM, david wrote: > The family (and I) are going to Orlando this fall. Disneyworld, > Epcot and all that family oriented fun that central Florida offers. > > That's a good thing. I did that when my kids were small, back a few years ago. > Am I missing anything? or am I off base with carrying a good size > kit into the park? Can you bring in a camera? > You can certainly bring in all the cameras you want. But if I may offer one older dad's very humble opinion, it sounds to me like you are may end up missing something if you load yourself down like a pack mule with extraneous gear during this rare experience with your children. Actually I visited that place during the dim time, the film time, with one Pentax Super Program SLR body and a 50mm prime. It didn't require much attention. I got a few shots that are still on family walls, desks and mantles all over the country, including one of my wife and son that I still look at every day. If I went back today with my grandkids, even though I own every fancy DSLR that Canon makes and most of their 'L' lenses, I would go in with a G6 (or G7) and maybe a 430EX. I surprise myself these days with how often my best photo friend turns out to be the SD550. Enjoy your trip :-). --Ken S. * **** ******* *********************************************************** * For list instructions, including unsubscribe, see: * http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/eos_list.htm *********************************************************** |
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Re: EOS travel setup (flash question, 70-300 DO?)
by Tapani Tarvainen-3
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On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 09:03:40PM -0400, david (bear@...) wrote:
> I'm seriously considering the 70-300 DO lens. Has anyone had any > real world experience with it? The reviews tend to imply that it's > great or that it is awful and expensive. I'd say it's great but expensive. :-) I have no complaints about image quality, with the caveat that lens hood is pretty much a must (and don't use any protective filters, it's allergic to them). Mechanically it's quite good also, with true ring USM giving full-time manual focus and fast AF, although zoom action could be smoother. And it is fantastically small. Whether it's worth the extra price over the 70-300/4-5.6 IS USM (non-DO), well, depends - I haven't actually tried the latter, but AFAIK it doesn't have FTM at any rate, and compared to the old 75-300IS the improvement was radical in every respect. -- Tapani Tarvainen * **** ******* *********************************************************** * For list instructions, including unsubscribe, see: * http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/eos_list.htm *********************************************************** |
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Re: EOS travel setup (flash question, 70-300 DO?)
by Bob W8IMO
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david wrote:
> The family (and I) are going to Orlando this fall. Disneyworld, Epcot > and all that family oriented fun that central Florida offers. > > With the two small kids I need to get a lens that is substantially > less heavy and bulky for my (soon to have) 30D than my 70-200 f2.8. > I'm seriously considering the 70-300 DO lens. Has anyone had any real > world experience with it? The reviews tend to imply that it's great > or that it is awful and expensive. Earlier this year I asked a similar question prior to my retirement. A friend of mine offered to loan me his but cautioned that it isn't L quality. I was considering "trading" my 70-200 f/2.8L I didn't trade the 70-200 in. If you can find someone that will loan you one, or ifthere is a shop near you that has one for rent, I suggest you try before you buy. > In addition I have to get another flash, I'm looking at the Sigma 500 > Super ... instead of the 580EX. I don't need the extra guide number > and I want to put the difference in money towards a new wide prime > lens maybe a 20mm. > > The kit I plan on having while away will be: > > 30D > 50mm f1.8 (light and fast for indoors) > new flash > new 70-xxx portable zoom > 28-105 mm > 18-55 EF-S kit lens > 100mm f2.8 macro (back at hotel room) > monopod (back at hotel room) > bean bag > > I'm staying away from EF-S lenses, I don't see them as a long term > investment. > > Am I missing anything? or am I off base with carrying a good size kit > into the park? Can you bring in a camera? Wow, you're going to be weary at the end ofthe day.! :'( Yes you can bring a camera. When we went to Disneyworld I was still in film mode, it was back in February 2000, all I took was my 28-105 and a rented 28-70 f/2,8L for the "important" shots. I don't remember taking many indoor shots and I never wished I had a longer than 105 lens. Everything, as I remember, was big and not spread out to where I needed, or wanted, the 70-200. You might do a dogpile search, a funny name for a search engine that searches google, ask, yahoo, and others, on Disney World and see if there is a photo guide on their web site. I think there is but I don't remember. The monopod might be a good idea, not at the hotel room, but at DW since it can double as a walking stick. I hadn;t yet had my knees replaced so I rented one of the electric carts that are available. Have a nice time at DW, we did..... Bob -- ///// ( O O ) --------------------oOOO-----O----OOOo-----73 de w8imo@...------ Curiosity killed the cat although I was a suspect for a while........ * **** ******* *********************************************************** * For list instructions, including unsubscribe, see: * http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/eos_list.htm *********************************************************** |
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Re: EOS travel setup (flash question, 70-300 DO?)
by Bob W8IMO
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david wrote:
> The family (and I) are going to Orlando this fall. Disneyworld, Epcot > and all that family oriented fun that central Florida offers. > Go to this sURL and you can order a free DVD to help plan your vacation...... Bob http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/disneyparks/en_US/index?name=HomePage&sourcecode=11011&CMP=KNC-PRKPrkGoogle&HBX_PK=walt+disney+vacations&HBX_OU=50&bhcp=1 -- ///// ( O O ) --------------------oOOO-----O----OOOo-----73 de w8imo@...------ Curiosity killed the cat although I was a suspect for a while........ * **** ******* *********************************************************** * For list instructions, including unsubscribe, see: * http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/eos_list.htm *********************************************************** |
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EOS travel question (bring the telephoto zoom)
by Davin-3
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On the same issue of travel and gear ... I plan to go to China at some point
for 2 / 3 weeks. I have a 50 1.8 / 70-200 f4 / 17-40 f4 / 18-55 all for a 20D (and a rebel film camera) I am tempted to not take the 70-200 and the 18-55 and bring simply the 20D + 17-40 and the 50 (plus I plan to add a 430 or 580 before the trip). Has anyone traveled to that part of the world and missed not having a 70-200 or brought one and never used it? * **** ******* *********************************************************** * For list instructions, including unsubscribe, see: * http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/eos_list.htm *********************************************************** |
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Re: EOS travel question (bring the telephoto zoom)
by Henning Wulff
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At 8:02 PM -0400 10/23/06, Jerome wrote:
>On the same issue of travel and gear ... I plan to go to China at some point >for 2 / 3 weeks. > >I have a 50 1.8 / 70-200 f4 / 17-40 f4 / 18-55 all for a 20D (and a rebel >film camera) > >I am tempted to not take the 70-200 and the 18-55 and bring simply the 20D + >17-40 and the 50 (plus I plan to add a 430 or 580 before the trip). > >Has anyone traveled to that part of the world and missed not having a 70-200 >or brought one and never used it? I was there last spring for a month. Some pictures: http://archiphoto.com/Various/China/index.htm I took a 5D & 350D with 12-24 Sigma, 24-105, 24/1.4 and 70-300DO. In order of importance for my type of shooting on this trip, the 24-105 was first, the 12-24 second, the 24/1.4 and the 70-300 last. The main reason I didn't use the 70-300 much was that it was generally so hazy/smoggy/foggy that you had a hard time seeing further than 2 blocks. We were 4 days on the Yangtse in the 3 Gorges, and sometimes it was so hazy that you could see one bank or the other, but never both. My preference with a 20D would be the 10-22 and 17-85IS, with possibly something like the 35/2 (or in my case, the 24/1.4) for low light/movement. With the high ISO capability of the 20D you might be able to dispense with that. The last shot in the above series is in Shanghai, from the Bund, standing in a massive crowd, handheld at 1/4sec. A year ago I went to Japan for a bit and took the 20D with the above three lenses plus the 70-300DO, and used all but mostly the shorter ones. I felt I had taken exactly the right stuff. Mostly, though, you know how you shoot and what you feel comfortable carrying. In the 80's I used to take 2 Nikons with 4 lenses (up to 400) plus 2 Leicas and 4 lenses on vacations, and carried it all just about every day. I did it again and again, and didn't mind all the stuff. In the 90's I hiked in Nepal with 4 cameras (including 2 MF) and 7 lenses up to 5000m and was fine with it. There were images I wanted to be able to get in each case, and I knew that carrying the stuff would be worth it for me. Some people are fine to go on a trip of 4 weeks with a Leica and 35mm lens and 200 rolls of Tri-X, because they know that and that alone is what they want to shoot with. You decide. -- * Henning J. Wulff /|\ Wulff Photography & Design /###\ mailto:henningw@... |[ ]| http://www.archiphoto.com * **** ******* *********************************************************** * For list instructions, including unsubscribe, see: * http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/eos_list.htm *********************************************************** |
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Re: EOS travel setup (flash question, 70-300 DO?)
by Jane Waters
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David,
You'll have enough to carry around with two small kids... travel light. If you have the opportunity to see a launch from Canaveral, take the 70-200 (and an extender). if you get the chance to go to the Everglades and shoot the birds, same answer. But at Disneyworld and Epcot, I'd go with mid-range 28-105 and your flash, although you won't need much in the way of flash unless you're planning on doing serious work with some fill flash outdoors. As to flash, buy the 580... it's the better of the two imho. Jane --- david <bear@...> wrote: > The family (and I) are going to Orlando this fall. Disneyworld, Epcot > and all that family oriented fun that central Florida offers. > > With the two small kids I need to get a lens that is substantially less > heavy and bulky for my (soon to have) 30D than my 70-200 f2.8. I'm > seriously considering the 70-300 DO lens. Has anyone had any real > world experience with it? The reviews tend to imply that it's great or > that it is awful and expensive. > > In addition I have to get another flash, I'm looking at the Sigma 500 > Super ... instead of the 580EX. I don't need the extra guide number and > I want to put the difference in money towards a new wide prime lens > maybe a 20mm. > > The kit I plan on having while away will be: > > 30D > 50mm f1.8 (light and fast for indoors) > new flash > new 70-xxx portable zoom > 28-105 mm > 18-55 EF-S kit lens > 100mm f2.8 macro (back at hotel room) > monopod (back at hotel room) > bean bag > > I'm staying away from EF-S lenses, I don't see them as a long term > investment. > > Am I missing anything? or am I off base with carrying a good size kit > into the park? Can you bring in a camera? > > thx in advance > > david > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com * **** ******* *********************************************************** * For list instructions, including unsubscribe, see: * http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/eos_list.htm *********************************************************** |
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Re: EOS travel setup (flash question, 70-300 DO?)
by Roger Eichhorn
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I'm happy with the 70-300 DO IS, but it's not light, despite what
Canon says. The built-in flash is useless, even at 70 mm. The lock at 70 mm is a nice feature and the two modes of IS are a great improvement over the earlier 75-300 IS. That said, it costs twice as much as the 75-300 IS, which you can get on eBay pretty cheaply (I bought it 1997). Neither are L lenses. The 580EX is awesome. I have a vest with large pockets. The 70-300 DO IS is in one of the pockets and a 17-40 L (sadly no IS) is on the camera. I can swap out the lenses in a minute or so, if necessary. I also have a 50 mm, but it usually stays in the hotel room. The gap between 40 and 70 hasn't been a problem for me. Incidentally, the 70-300 DO IS is a macro lens, but the closest distance is 1.4 m. Roger Roger Eichhorn eichhorn@... On 24 Oct 2006, at 11:15 PM, Jane Waters wrote: > David, > You'll have enough to carry around with two small kids... travel > light. If you have the > opportunity to see a launch from Canaveral, take the 70-200 (and an > extender). if you get the > chance to go to the Everglades and shoot the birds, same answer. > But at Disneyworld and Epcot, I'd > go with mid-range 28-105 and your flash, although you won't need > much in the way of flash unless > you're planning on doing serious work with some fill flash > outdoors. As to flash, buy the 580... > it's the better of the two imho. > Jane > > --- david <bear@...> wrote: > >> The family (and I) are going to Orlando this fall. Disneyworld, >> Epcot >> and all that family oriented fun that central Florida offers. >> >> With the two small kids I need to get a lens that is substantially >> less >> heavy and bulky for my (soon to have) 30D than my 70-200 f2.8. I'm >> seriously considering the 70-300 DO lens. Has anyone had any real >> world experience with it? The reviews tend to imply that it's >> great or >> that it is awful and expensive. >> >> In addition I have to get another flash, I'm looking at the Sigma 500 >> Super ... instead of the 580EX. I don't need the extra guide >> number and >> I want to put the difference in money towards a new wide prime lens >> maybe a 20mm. >> >> The kit I plan on having while away will be: >> >> 30D >> 50mm f1.8 (light and fast for indoors) >> new flash >> new 70-xxx portable zoom >> 28-105 mm >> 18-55 EF-S kit lens >> 100mm f2.8 macro (back at hotel room) >> monopod (back at hotel room) >> bean bag >> >> I'm staying away from EF-S lenses, I don't see them as a long term >> investment. >> >> Am I missing anything? or am I off base with carrying a good size kit >> into the park? Can you bring in a camera? >> >> thx in advance >> >> david >> > * **** ******* *********************************************************** * For list instructions, including unsubscribe, see: * http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/eos_list.htm *********************************************************** |
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